How to upgrade your entry level MTB!

[@DanielRodriguez-gs5uu]

Isn’t the arc of the fork facing the wrong way?

[@pascualaguon5324]

Solid Build!!!!! ... I have 2021 Talon 2, brand new 1 1/2 ago...to date Im running a 35 Gold RL (tapered) boost, deore 5100 groupset with a single crank, yete grips, handle bar changed out as well and tires Maxis Shortys 29×2.5s... With me, it was so I could gain experience on working on MTB's. Running 203mm front disc and 180mm on the rear, but with Tectro hydraulics, soon to be deore 6100 hydraulic is my next upgrade. Every hobby has its cost and loss, as long as your happy and I'm a happy camper.

[@JR-py4kx]

Did you change the crankset? I have the same bike and want to do something similar

[@pascualaguon5324]

@J R yes... I bought the Shamano deore m5100 32 teeth 75mm crank wilhich came with a bottom bracket or BB replacement on ebay. I did try to run the stock 2 by crank with the deore m5100 with 11-51T group set but it would stay on the 51 teeth cassette. So I just decided to make it consistent with the deore single crank. I know some would say why invest a talon but I'm pretty happy. I used a lot of you tube to kinda get me moving or atleast understanding how to do it. But some cases I did end up bring to a shop for adjustments.

[@carlosmerino6490]

I have a similar bike Talon 4, I would love to make some upgrades too, I would love to change the entire drivetrain. I was wondering if you list the brand/part number for each part of the drivetrain or if you offer the parts online and I can order it directly from your store site? I'm sure I'm asking too much.

[@TumorWarrior67]

that white on grey 😍 looks so nice

[@TheMTBGarage]

Thanks dude!

[@mikek9297]

10:46 Just look at this absolute CHAD !

[@Theridingherf]

Great video man I have a talon 4 xl that I just bought this week it's a really good platform so far.

[@archersamson254]

A trick: watch movies on Flixzone. I've been using them for watching a lot of movies recently.

[@calvintristen9384]

@Archer Samson definitely, I've been using flixzone for since december myself :)

[@abrahamcesar492]

@Archer Samson Definitely, I have been watching on Flixzone for since december myself :D

[@AA-dx4ql]

Awesome video!! I have a Giant talon i got last year, been looking to do some upgrades. So I figured ill go to my local bike shop. Asked what would be some good upgrades, and basically got laughed at and was told that for my bike it wasn't worth it , just get an upgrade bike . Lol than I saw this!!!! Thanks for this video!!!

[@wandererofthewasteland400]

I needed a better bike right away and got this too over the Talon 2 they were offering me. Tbh I maybe could’ve gotten that Talon 2 but I was trying to save my bread at the time and needed a proper commuter and I wanted the green frame in all seriousness. The bike shop I purchased it at also scoffed at the idea upon me asking details to upgrade it. This video pleased both of us mate and it’s always something when the dudes at the shop look down at ideas like this, you would think they would be into customizing a ride but nah… I guess some people are just better than us. Cheers mate 🤙🏽

[@uhhFez]

I know this is an old video but you should add the parts to your bio and link to purchase them

[@ns671fr]

Take note everyone he didn't mention he switched to a Tapered fork so you will need lower headset adapter for it.

[@tiago_oliveira96]

I was about to ask exactly that. Is that legit in the long term?

[@kennethwang1666]

@@tiago_oliveira96 It could work but I really don't know the consequences as I never tried it

[@andrewshaw7857]

Very informative. Like your video, and background music 🎶 👍🏻.

[@roadlesstraveledd]

curious how you got that tapered fork onto what looks like a straight steer headset

[@nickviola9981]

I am curious about this as well...

[@wandererofthewasteland400]

He answered in the short list of comments guys…have a look 🤙🏽

[@joseortega9965]

What did you use to install a Taper fork?

[@jakobliftz]

just how?

[@behzadehdaie7866]

perfect, I've done something like this. mine upgraded to xt deore drivetrain, brakes to deore, hubs to koozer490pro and tires to mtb

[@JMetz1866]

Awesome video dude! Super helpful!

[@wilsmuts]

good vid mate. I got the 2021 Talon 2 and been eyeing some upgrades. Once I can affor them...

[@Mango-ew5du]

Awesome video! Did you perhaps weigh the frame and or original fork?

[@princeofguahan1412]

What wheelset? Love d sound of d hubs

[@keystonedaytrip238]

Hey bro , please don’t answer any questions ! Thanks

[@1188clean]

🤣😂🤣😂

[@saltburnsam]

Hi, would appreciate some advice re my recently purchased Talon 4. I have found it to be too slow when road riding so want to know if I can switch out the chainset for a 30/46 instead of the 22/36 it came with and if so does any of the derailleur need altering ? Thanks in advance

[@RobertWilliams-ox4hz]

How to upgrade your $500 entry level mtb? Throw another $500+ in parts at it. lol

[@M3garage1]

you dont need to throw that much plus you can upgrade overtime not all at once.

[@RobertWilliams-ox4hz]

@@M3garage1 Oh I get it. I just thought it was funny.

[@M3garage1]

@@RobertWilliams-ox4hz lmao yeah for sure. Also his steerer tube was so short lol

[@RobertWilliams-ox4hz]

@@M3garage1 he must have changed the bearing cup in the bottom at least because that new fork was tapered

[@TheMTBGarage]

Yup this bike had a super long head tube so in order for the fork to fit I had to ditch the top cap of the headset, works no problem just looks a little funny, thanks guys!

[@forestdamian5601]

Hi. I bought a second-hand bike from a second-hand shop. But the series is not visible. And it's strange. because it has 3x8 speeds, but the shifter is only with two, not with three. something is wrong and I would like to know. How can I figure out which model it is? I need to know what model it is because it has some defects and I need to buy some parts, and I don't know what model it is. Do you think you can help me? Thank you

[@maumex]

What fork did you use? I want to upgrade my Giant Talon 3 fork with something lighter and air for using in the mountain. Any ideas?

[@Env1s1on]

Asking the same

[@kennethwang1666]

@@Env1s1on I recommend the RockShox XC30

[@kennethwang1666]

I recommend the RockShox XC 30. It is a straight fork that has rebound and lockout

[@archanamahanta6346]

Rockshox Judy tk

[@JedTaneo]

Suntour Epixon

[@anddontcallmeshirley-]

Loved it! Wtf with the unicycle?? lol *****

[@kylechallis]

How did you go from the front quick release hub to using a through axle? I currently have a Norco Storm 4 and am wanting to do some big upgrades to it.

[@kennethwang1666]

You buy a new wheelset

[@GP-fc7jv]

It looks great

[@IntoTheWhite04]

And the fork is back to front isn't it? Unless it's some sort of weird design I've not seen before.

[@Tehkneekz]

wouldn't it be cheaper to get a talon 2 and just get a new fork?

[@ba-tangvlogs3406]

Hey bro! How much was the total costs for the upgrades! I have the same bike and I want to copy your set up! Really nice job man!

[@Charlie-re4zc]

Hi, very helpful vid. Just wondering if you had to do anything to make the cassette fit. Answer would be helpful thanks!

[@all_str5674]

Got a Talon 3, did you installed a tapered fork to your straight tube? Did you need to convert using an adaptor and what is the diameter of your head tube. Thanks! More power to your channel.

[@jorgealbertocastillosoria2676]

X2

[@conradofm]

nice set bro..

[@IntoTheWhite04]

Dropper post, tubeless and 1x and a 10-51 cassette surely?

[@musk8695]

Did you put your fork on backwards?

[@alan181090]

No, seems like that but if you look closer you notice that the disc mount is in the back position (like the brake arch, some few forks come like that)

[@anonymousindividual518]

Question, if I go from 2x7 drivetrain to a 2x10, do I have to change the shifter also, and do I get more speed or range since I live in the city and would want more speed? Thank you

[@yengsabio5315]

You will have to get a 10-speed shifter. With a 2 x 10 transmission system, I think you'll get 12 to 14 functional gear combinations. To me, that's more than enough for high speed on flats & light pedal stroke on ascents.

[@exa-mountainbikingandhikin7127]

Awesome, got the same bike. I’ve done the fork and want to do the brakes. What adaptor for a 220mm rotors? Front and rear?

[@hybridplanco3765]

I love the handlebar and the fork.. mind if you can dm you what are those..hehe thank you sir

[@limitisillusion7]

If I wanted to put a bigger crankset on, would I need a new bottom bracket?

[@CapCaloyEtc]

you install tappered fork for straight tube? what did you use?

[@faizaltajul6527]

Great video bro...I noticed you swapped the original fork which was straight steer to the Manitou which was tapered. Do you need to have a special headset for that? Is the Talon's steerer tube straight or tapered? I wanted to change to a tapered steerer fork but my steerer tube is straight. Just wondering if it's possible. Any help will be great!

[@TheMTBGarage]

Thanks! Yes I did have to replace the headset to get the Manitou to fit, I used a cane creek 40 series zs/ec 44 headset - this is 44 mm in diameter on the bottom and top headset cups, and the lower one has an external bearing and the upper is a zero stack. Hope that helps!

[@jersontorda7333]

Sir hope you can help me my question is does a 203 rotor at rear can fit i will add adapter for the said rotor

[@SharrodVisuals]

Is it better to buy a second hand cheap Nike and do it up like this?

[@Siblove7]

I cant seem to find any basic bike size guides for a xc setup, just ordered a Talon 3 29er size Large frame (following the company guidelines for height) but it turned out HUGE, have about 1 inch space between topbar and crotch while standing on ground. Any recommendations for what I should consider for simple beginner bike fit?

[@apot082]

Watch out for trees and unicycles

[@sovietpigeon1346]

Nice video! I'm getting this bike because my current budget can't afford a more expensive bike. Probably gonna change the fork and the brakes when I'm going to be able to. 1 question tough can you put 120 mm forks on it? I want to use it as a light enduro mtb in the future

[@kennethwang1666]

I don't suggest it. The geometry would slaken and the bottom bracket would be closer to the ground. If it can also make pedaling awful.

[@michas9547]

You can put 120 mm travel fork but it's not recommended to go above that value. I 've changed my fork traval in talon 1 (with sxc 2 air fork) from 100 mm to 120 mm and it works really well.

[@markjosephhadloc4746]

What headset did you use?

[@nothingintheremeow5739]

Hi im planning to buy a bike between giant talon and trek marlin which is better on trail and sloopy style? thank.

[@Sleventy21]

Did you have to replace the rear hub for the new gears?

[@kennethwang1666]

Yes sir. Talon 4 comes with a freewheel not a free hub

[@TTT-xg5hd]

This video doesn't want to reveal much....disappointed

[@aidencoppola4542]

Ik your not leaving the suspention on backwards right????

[@omargs8929]

What size the fork?

[@miguelfragoso7023]

How come you sized up to the XL on this one?

[@dubblearr7622]

I got a large 5010 and wanted to bring the handlebars closer and higher. I saw the stem you put. DMR defy 35 35mm with +10 degree. You recommend that? I kept looking for combo riser bar and shorter stem. Maybe the DMR stem is all I need.

[@theadventuregamer6693]

You have a 5010 and you are watching this? Talk to your local bike shop, they will definitely give an answer.

[@MultiLugiaxD]

Hey, nice vid, I am planning on buying one this week but, does anyone know if the talon frame can run a 2.6 tire? Please help me out

[@GP-fc7jv]

How much better is it?

[@built2jzlexus496]

How were u able to use that tapered fork?

[@lapulapu1732]

HI good day to u bro what is your fork model?white color

[@panhasithso9044]

Do you need to change hub for that cassette?

[@Sleventy21]

I would like to know the same thing

[@kennethwang1666]

@@Sleventy21 Yes

[@kennethwang1666]

You have to buy a new wheel or change the hub

[@kennethwang1666]

You have to buy a new wheel or change the hub

[@panhasithso9044]

@@kennethwang1666 wait the head tube is tapered?

[@daily_dose_of_nothingness]

Why clipless if they have clips?

[@Ed-ph5ti]

Hey what headset cup did you use to put a tapered fork

[@jorgealbertocastillosoria2676]

X2

[@hggfghj4061]

Boost or non boost hubs?

[@kingfsx]

Nice vid! Thanks! I bought Talon 3 and I'm a newbie, I don't know even know how to tune my bike. Can you help me out on how to tune the drivetrain? :)

[@TheMTBGarage]

Yeah man we have a drivetrain tuning video coming out soon so stay tuned! If you have any specific questions you can email us at [e-mail] and we will adress them in the video. Thanks! Ride on🤘

[@kennethwang1666]

Try searching up park tool on KZbin or consult with a professional bike mechanic

[@juansuarez93]

mate, did you change your stock rear hubs for the 10 speed cassette?

[@kennethwang1666]

He probably bought new wheels

[@fishing_With_Vic]

Did bro really just put the fork bsckwards💀

[@nomadic_hurd]

Great video. I recently bought a Talon 2 (2021). Definitely looking at upgrading the fork. Anything specific I need to know about that? I believe it doesn't have a tapered headset so that might make it more difficult? Thanks!

[@TheMTBGarage]

Thanks for the comment! You would have to replace the lower headset cup with an external 44 mm cup to fit the tapered steerer tube. I recommend just replacing the entire headset with. a Cane Creek 40 Series.

[@ShaN-fz3zv]

@@TheMTBGarage I also own a Talon2(2021) and looking to upgrade the fork..The Cane Creek 40 series can fit into a size S frame? or is the headtube size different for every frame sizes?? Newbie here!

[@TheMTBGarage]

@@ShaN-fz3zv The diameter of the headtube does not change between frame sizes but the length of the headtube does so you need to be careful with the steerer tube length. The Canecreek headset will fit no problem and just to clarify, the headset size that you need is a 44, and the 40 series is a specific model. You can also get a 44mm headset cup in a 70 and 110 series from CC, jus depends how nice of a headset you want.

[@ShaN-fz3zv]

@@TheMTBGarage Thanks so much for the clarification, really helps alot!

[@nomadic_hurd]

@@TheMTBGarage awesome, thanks a ton for the help!

[@robertot.3260]

Max size of Tyres?

[@nathanabby12]

Did you use the same wheels? How did you convert the quick release to thru axle?

[@nathanabby12]

No reply ok I guess unsubcribe

[@kennethwang1666]

You need a new wheel set.

[@earthend9377]

For a 5'8 person, is it just okey to ride this bike? Will it look goofy on me?

[@bryan4172]

Depends on the size, for me I’m your height and I use a medium talon 4 and it runs perfectly, he has an Extra large which will definitely look goody on someone like us, I would say go for a medium, perhaps a large would be too big

[@edwincornejo657]

Can you do the same upgrades to Polygon Cascade 4?

[@kennethwang1666]

depends if you want to upgrade

[@playbackvintagehifihunter9669]

Just bought one, slightly disappointed with the speed..

[@fabianseptember3546]

Me too!! Can anyone advice how to make this bike a little faster please. I dont have money for a road bike.

[@mountainbikingwithalan]

i have a talon 4 the same color

[@TheMTBGarage]

🤘

[@jewouls9896]

What's your height?

[@earthend9377]

How much did it cost for the upgrade man?

[@kennethwang1666]

I wouldn't suggest it. I would upgrade to something like a Talon 1 or 2. Its not worth the labor and the time.

[@bigusdumby]

Why not just get a talon 1

[@Ed-ph5ti]

Plz link the headset adapter

[@kennethwang1666]

a cane creek 40 series zs/ec 44 headset - this is 44 mm in diameter on the bottom and top headset cups, and the lower one has an external bearing and the upper is a zero stack. Hope that helps!

[@Ed-ph5ti]

@@kennethwang1666 Thanks

[@homermagdalan5914]

TALON 3 alone is 800-900$ in the PHILIPPINES , 😢

[@octaviorodriguez6849]

DAMN! That sucks! I payed $880 ➕ tax, so $970 out the door for my Talon 1 here in Southern California.

[@Coolshortsvideo1]

Backwards forks got me cringing

[@mehDOGIESRATS2222]

Why didn't you just buy a more expensive bike in the first place lol

[@wandererofthewasteland400]

You’re weren’t listening were you? .. go ahead and watch it again but listen closely.

[@mehDOGIESRATS2222]

@@wandererofthewasteland400 I was probably wasted lol , when I typed that tbh lol . You do know a shit load about bikes , cool stuff man . Wish I could afford that new PC and another bike . Be good to get and about popping some jumps n shit

[@AntonioOrtiz-jr8je]

What size for the bb you used?

[@hugomatado2260]

Also interested in the bb size