How to use 3 Phase Machinery WITHOUT 3 Phase Power!

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Sean Evelegh

Sean Evelegh

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@jimbojets
@jimbojets 10 ай бұрын
Great video.. These do work with limited capacity.. Not true three phase as more like two phase with time limited three phase capacitor output.. Once the machine is up and running the three phase motor runs technically on 2 phase only once the capacitors are depleted of power.. Confusing I know but think of them as rechargeable batteries that recharge when the Clark PC is on standby. If like me you have a Lathe with a Dual Speed motor then this is of no use because the five wire harness in such machines has a blue neutral powered wire in your motor that has to connected to enable brake/stopping of the motor.. If you leave it disconnected then on powering off the motor it will run on for quite some time until it eventually stops.. NOT Ideal if you plan using a mill, band saw or in my case a lathe and certainly not safe in case of needed emergency stop. If however your machine has a manual brake system then you could use the Clark PC convertor with caution.. Bonus is you can plug n play using this convertor without severe wiring modifications to the machines safety switches i.e safety guards, opening doors etc that disable the machine when lifted or opened.. Pro's and con's to all these set ups..
@wasimanjam4380
@wasimanjam4380 4 ай бұрын
Hi mate, Thanks for your explanation. I am in the process of getting a haas mini mill, which requires 3 pahse power, what do you recommend in such case? Thank you
@EE-bi3mv
@EE-bi3mv 3 жыл бұрын
Ive bought three face sewing machine last August, since then I’ve been waiting for few different commercial electricians. Non of them fond a solution. Im very very that i saw this video which i think fond me the exact thing im looking for since last year. I thank you.
@johnallen8680
@johnallen8680 3 жыл бұрын
IMPORTANT FOLKS ! Before we all get excited about having a 3 phase supply please read on. These converters don't provide a genuine true 3 phase supply, but will run 3 phase MOTORS .. They are unsuitable for heaters , welding machines and other such devices.. They are only suitable for motors. One phase they provide is the true single phase from your wall socket . Clever phase shifting circuitry provides and second and a third by charging up capacitors when you switch on and then discharging the current around the third winding on the 3 phase motor thus starting the motor to turn. By the time the capacitors have discharged that third motor winding is now doing nothing but the motor continues to spin on two phases ( the 'true' phase and second 'trick phase'.) The motor will run quite happily on this arrangement but obviously at a reduced horsepower due to one phase winding of the motor doing nothing.. They are good devices enabling you to buy up great value 3 phase powered machines that sell cheap on the second hand market when commercial users sell them on replacing them with new plant that can be put against tax.. If you didn't understand the science earlier, just remember that these static phase converters will ONLY RUN MOTORS.
@inflationistransitory
@inflationistransitory 3 жыл бұрын
When you say heaters, does this mean boilers in 3 phase coffee machines ?
@alanjaff7
@alanjaff7 Жыл бұрын
Well said
@johnallen8680
@johnallen8680 Жыл бұрын
@@inflationistransitory Yes, any resistive load. This will include any heating elements .. A static phase converter is only suitable for running 3 phase MOTORS. Nothing else.
@genevagolah9283
@genevagolah9283 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks you! Watching in 2021 and I got a 3 phase sewing machine which was perfect but at the time of purchase I didn't read the description, now I'm stuck with my machine and you just gave me the perfect solution. Now I have to find out if they ship to Italy and if I can afford it.
@Sam-st5gn
@Sam-st5gn 2 жыл бұрын
I’m having the same problem
@stun9771
@stun9771 5 жыл бұрын
Well spotted tool info...didn’t even know you could buy such a converter....thank you Sean 👍🏻
@SeanEvelegh
@SeanEvelegh 5 жыл бұрын
HI Stuart! I'm thrilled you found it useful! that's exactly why i wanted to make the video! see you in the next video!
@pandabaerhellas
@pandabaerhellas 2 жыл бұрын
... if i see correct, this is a transformer that steps up from 230 to 415 volt( loadless) ~400 with full load. Plus 30 condensers to create the 3rd phase... Isnt more easy to create as many machines have a 230v 3phase with just one condenser (~4μFarad). For many machines its enough to work, because the speed is in any case related to the 50 hertz... Better would be a device that creates 3P- 1N -1PE...?! But i guess you need a generator like for old elevators ( 1 1phase motor drives a 3 phase generator)...
@lamzmess8946
@lamzmess8946 3 жыл бұрын
I think you’re the only one who can help me bro , I really need to ask you couple questions if you don’t mind please .
@richardharris5336
@richardharris5336 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds fantastic. Thank you for the simple overview - I just discovered these and was very curious but thought "it can't be that simple". It seems it is! This changes everything....
@paulurbaniak2242
@paulurbaniak2242 5 жыл бұрын
I really like the intro! In germany we don't have that problem, as basically every house already has one (if not multiple) 3 phase power outlets :-D Anyway, I enjoyed the video and look forward to your next one.
@SeanEvelegh
@SeanEvelegh 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Paul, I glad you like the new intro! I've got a bit more work to do on it! Your very lucky! I wish i had 3 phase power. In the UK It's very uncommon
@technicalitems731
@technicalitems731 4 ай бұрын
I have a Hobart 3 phase DC welder. I wonder if this would work for me and make for smooth welding?
@christiniawattenbach9488
@christiniawattenbach9488 4 жыл бұрын
YOU ARE AWESOME I HAVE THREE MACHINES SITTING IN MY BARN BECAUSE I WAS TOLD I NEEDED A MOTOR GENTERATOR SET CONVERTER THIS MACHINE WILL BE SO MUCH EASIER TO USE THANKS SO MUCH
@Pricklysauce
@Pricklysauce 5 жыл бұрын
Didn't know this was possible, opens up possibilities...like your intro
@SeanEvelegh
@SeanEvelegh 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Rob! Thanks for watching man! I'm very happy i showed you something new! and i'm glad you like the intro... it took some time to do!
@Chibeze_G
@Chibeze_G 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. It's simple and short. I have a 7.5kva 3 phase equipment but the highest Clarke has is the Clarke pc60 which is 5.5kva. How do I go about this please?
@maheshchawda3435
@maheshchawda3435 Жыл бұрын
I bought brother automatic industrial machine ,but motor is 3phase ,so can i use this phash converter ,if i i buy this product ?
@MaldoInMobile
@MaldoInMobile 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks for the info just I need help with a couple welding machines. I have an millet XMT 456 that uses 19.2 kw 3 phase. Please help, I don’t have 3 phase. Thanks
@Allan-loveswoodturning
@Allan-loveswoodturning Жыл бұрын
Hi Sean I’m having problems with my inverter. Keeps showing fault. But I have to get an electrician to clear the inverter. But on watching you video I like the converter but would this be a short term fix. Thanks Sean
@SeanEvelegh
@SeanEvelegh Жыл бұрын
Hi Allan, honestly I'm not an expert, I don't know, so I don't want to give bad advice. I'd recommend chatting to a electrician.
@ElliotLoney
@ElliotLoney 5 жыл бұрын
Good work mate! You're very talented. Subscribed. Keep it up!
@SeanEvelegh
@SeanEvelegh 5 жыл бұрын
bloody hell, can't believe you watched my video! thanks Elliot! I'm a big fan of yours. I love playing tennis as well and that's how i found you on KZbin. but I would also love to see more Bear Grylls impressions... there absolutely hilarious.
@Poncho-dd2pl
@Poncho-dd2pl 11 ай бұрын
So this would work for a 3 phase Cnc mill?
@BedsitBob
@BedsitBob 2 жыл бұрын
Provided you don't exceed the rating of the Phase Converter, could you run more than one machine off a Phase Converter, simultaneously?
@viggaqu6385
@viggaqu6385 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Sean, I bought a pahse 3 saw 5 bhp and a Clarke pc40. Unfortunately it didn't work for me. What bhp is the machine you used the pc40 on. Cheers
@CC-io3nc
@CC-io3nc 3 жыл бұрын
With this being 3.5hp max.. Would it power a bandsaw which had 4hp input and 3hp output?.... Bit confusing that bit
@gilmercastillo4243
@gilmercastillo4243 2 жыл бұрын
Hey im planing to buy a cnc machine but run in to 3 phase do i can do this with that
@MrToolmaker23
@MrToolmaker23 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video Sean. I'm building a new workshop next year so I looked into 3-phase power for possible future machinery. Cost to bring 3-phase to my home = $ 1,000,000.00 CDN (conservative estimate by an expert). Nearest source of 3-phase is 6 kilometers away. So ... that ain't gonna happen. There are always options.
@SeanEvelegh
@SeanEvelegh 5 жыл бұрын
Hey man! yeah exactly, that is way to much money! hopefully this was helpful. but you still can get powerful machinery with 240v 16amp!
@alfonsomartinez3311
@alfonsomartinez3311 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 3 phase welding machine will it work
@klearman9612
@klearman9612 Жыл бұрын
Could this power a 3phase car hoist?
@philipyeboah4379
@philipyeboah4379 3 жыл бұрын
Nice one I have a silent generator 15kv single phase and I have MO 1unit printing machine can I use your Machine to power my 3phase MO 1unit machine? And how much is the cost?
@markb9974
@markb9974 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Would this work with a machine that has multiple motors that run at the same time like a cnc machine?
@SeanEvelegh
@SeanEvelegh 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry Mark, I don't know about that. I would contact Clarke or machine mart.
@garyfinch1438
@garyfinch1438 Жыл бұрын
Has anyone used a phase converter to power a 3phase welder or plasma cutter and is it possible? Im just looking into this as im also limited to 240v. Any advice is appreciated thanks
@williamsimpson2083
@williamsimpson2083 5 жыл бұрын
Does using the converter have any affect on the power of the saw?
@SeanEvelegh
@SeanEvelegh 5 жыл бұрын
Hi William, that's a good question. It persume it might a bit. but i haven't noticed an issue (yet)
@NicoSmets
@NicoSmets 5 жыл бұрын
Yes. You can only have the power that a single phase line can bring you. When you don't overstep the limitaton, a solution like this might be ok, but it not a full replacement of a 3 phase line.
@allanramgoolam8007
@allanramgoolam8007 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro, you have eased a lot of my stress, thanks again.
@SeanEvelegh
@SeanEvelegh 2 жыл бұрын
no problem
@kristinego7929
@kristinego7929 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this- I need the one in reverse I need a 380/3 phase to work in 220v single phase for my large mixer. I assume it would be in the same concept. 👍 Thanks a lot . I learn quickly. ✅
@the_real_hislordship
@the_real_hislordship 2 жыл бұрын
You need single phase from a three phase supply? Isn't there a neutral on the supply? Any phase to neutral will give you the voltage you need.
@paralellosll3849
@paralellosll3849 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone know if they sell these on the Australian market?
@mariocora2451
@mariocora2451 3 жыл бұрын
Mister Sean, could tel me where I can bay this ? Thank
@SeanEvelegh
@SeanEvelegh 3 жыл бұрын
MachineMart.com
@georgegonzalez3784
@georgegonzalez3784 3 жыл бұрын
Does this work on USA as well?
@sandilemthethwa2614
@sandilemthethwa2614 3 жыл бұрын
Bro on the video u plugged ure inverter on a 3 phase looking plug point .is that so ?
@BedsitBob
@BedsitBob 2 жыл бұрын
What he plugged it into, was a high current, Single Phase socket. m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71Gbz2in6qS._AC_SL1500_.jpg
@natelarge
@natelarge 5 жыл бұрын
Will this work with a 120v outlet in the US or is there a different converter available in the US? Awesome find my friend.
@SeanEvelegh
@SeanEvelegh 5 жыл бұрын
HI Nate. I don't think this one will. but I'm sure if you looked at dealers in your country there will definitely be a version for you.
@SeanEvelegh
@SeanEvelegh 5 жыл бұрын
@KelMaster Construction yeah they are a lot of money, but cheaper than installing 3 phase into your workshop
@JAB1978
@JAB1978 4 жыл бұрын
NO, you need 220v to get 3 phase power. 120v will not have enough amps to run it
@BedsitBob
@BedsitBob 2 жыл бұрын
@@JAB1978 America's 120v is actually one leg of a 240v, centre tapped supply. You'll find 240v across the two end taps.
@chetantikone6837
@chetantikone6837 4 жыл бұрын
Is these converter are in higher ranges as to convert 5 HP motors ???
@SeanEvelegh
@SeanEvelegh 4 жыл бұрын
I think you might be able to get a bigger converter for that yes!
@chetantikone6837
@chetantikone6837 4 жыл бұрын
@@SeanEvelegh is bigger converter available in market ? I wanted to run bosch 5 HP machine on single phase ...
@SeanEvelegh
@SeanEvelegh 4 жыл бұрын
@@chetantikone6837 maybe the clarke 60 converter, mine is the 40.... I'm not sure though.
@thecarcleaner8364
@thecarcleaner8364 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Sean, Can I use this converter to power a 3 phase large heat press for pressing images on clothes.
@SeanEvelegh
@SeanEvelegh 4 жыл бұрын
Hey mate, sorry I can't help you will that. I recommend phoning the company as they would definitely know the answer!
@thecarcleaner8364
@thecarcleaner8364 4 жыл бұрын
@@SeanEvelegh Thanks for the reply
@SeanEvelegh
@SeanEvelegh 4 жыл бұрын
@@thecarcleaner8364 my guess is yes, but I don't 100% know
@christiniawattenbach9488
@christiniawattenbach9488 4 жыл бұрын
ALSO WANTED TO ASK WHERE YOU GOT YOUR PLUGS AND RECEPTICALS FOR THIS MACHINE?
@steveewen5438
@steveewen5438 3 жыл бұрын
stop shouting
@paulhauer1598
@paulhauer1598 3 жыл бұрын
Does anyone one of a product like this with plug and play ability for the USA?
@lolasharp3471
@lolasharp3471 3 жыл бұрын
What happens if your machine has a neutral lead requiring a 5 pin plug?????
@jowmarks
@jowmarks 3 жыл бұрын
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THIS TOO
@jimbojets
@jimbojets 10 ай бұрын
Blue neutral wire on 5 pin connection is a powered wire for brake/stopping the motor.. The Clark pc40 or pc60 won't work in that setup.. Simply put you can only connect 4 wires.. If you leave the blue neutral disconnected then the motor will spin a very long time to eventually stopping when you switch off.. Not ideal on saws, mills, lathes etc with no manual brake stop..
@frankslittleworkshop
@frankslittleworkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Nicely done Sean 😁👍. I've lost count of how many great machines I've looked at buying but then been hit by the three phase demon 👹. This could be a solution. Thanks mate 😁👍.
@SeanEvelegh
@SeanEvelegh 4 жыл бұрын
HI Frank, yeah it's great getting old machine. (normally much better made). before buying i would get that the converter works with the types of motor in the machine.
@tylerdavenport8661
@tylerdavenport8661 4 жыл бұрын
where did you find 20 amp plug equipment, cant find it anywhere?
@verminwizard3303
@verminwizard3303 4 жыл бұрын
its 16amp plug and socket not 20amp
@BedsitBob
@BedsitBob 2 жыл бұрын
@@verminwizard3303 The largest one requires 32 amps.
@solomon2453
@solomon2453 4 жыл бұрын
Hi buddy this is fantastic video and very very useful for me. Am in India and I wanna buy this product hence request you to share link to buy
@SeanEvelegh
@SeanEvelegh 4 жыл бұрын
www.machinemart.co.uk/p/pc-40-3-5hp-phase-converter/
@AsylumArtifacts
@AsylumArtifacts 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you I really needed this info😎👍
@NOMADdaf
@NOMADdaf 2 жыл бұрын
You can buy these smaller than a shoe box with variable speed control for under $200 USD.
@beelittle4933
@beelittle4933 3 жыл бұрын
Is it suitable for EV charger point?
@the_real_hislordship
@the_real_hislordship 2 жыл бұрын
No, definitely not. No way you can pull 22kw on a single phase. Have a look at kzbin.info/www/bejne/p3O7fKSjqdyBhas
@kevinclark2856
@kevinclark2856 2 жыл бұрын
i need it other way 3 phase to 1 phase
@Badgerworkshop
@Badgerworkshop 5 жыл бұрын
Thats great. I love old tools
@SeanEvelegh
@SeanEvelegh 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Matt! thanks for watching! yeah good tools are normally made very well! And it's a lot of fun using them
@lemagreengreen
@lemagreengreen 5 жыл бұрын
I've heard that these don't put out "true" three phase and it's actually two phase, can you confirm this? does it matter?
@SeanEvelegh
@SeanEvelegh 5 жыл бұрын
Hi man, I'm not a electrician. I'm pretty sure it puts out proper 3 phase, it can power a lot of 3 phase machinery. But you might need to ask the company if your unsure on technicals
@Migman2020
@Migman2020 3 жыл бұрын
@@SeanEvelegh Its not true 3 phase.. the machine you have imitates it just enough to start and run 3 phase motors. Thats why the output is rated in HP and not kw.. you cant power 3 phase space heaters or welders etc .. Powering 3 phase motors is relatively easy when you got something like that.. welders on the other hand.. no even with stuff like rotary phase converters or static converters.. welders torch them over time
@catherinehargreaves9959
@catherinehargreaves9959 5 жыл бұрын
hi. thank you v .mutch i think this could help alot of people .i wish i could tern the clock back .lignator jack.
@jimcritchlow
@jimcritchlow Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much
@chrishadjipetris6059
@chrishadjipetris6059 4 жыл бұрын
If you just want to run only one three phase machine on one phase, you can do it by using a capacitor, instead of buying this converter. For example, I have a 3 phase water pump at home and I use a capacitor for it
@jungsomewhat
@jungsomewhat 3 жыл бұрын
tell me more please ???
@Silmi_sam
@Silmi_sam 3 жыл бұрын
Mantap boss👍🏻
@uberdash007
@uberdash007 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for in4
@DaveGDesigns
@DaveGDesigns 5 жыл бұрын
Great shout Sean although I think that bandsaw is getting in your way maybe you should send it to me 😂
@SeanEvelegh
@SeanEvelegh 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Dave! glad you liked the video! Not the big one! haha at some point i'm going to need to get a bigger bandsaw! see you in the next video
@psiersema
@psiersema 4 жыл бұрын
What is free phase power ?
@simplytrolling6869
@simplytrolling6869 2 жыл бұрын
Wish I had free phase power 🤦‍♂️ power bill keeps going up and up.
@mrfunnyedit
@mrfunnyedit Ай бұрын
Lol
@Mystic0Dreamer
@Mystic0Dreamer 4 жыл бұрын
Would this work for a more powerful motor? Say you have a 5 hp 3 phase motor. Could you set this controller to 3 HP and have it run the 5 HP motor? I realize that the motor couldn't put out 5 HP, but would it still run at 3 HP? I have a 5 HP 3 PH motor but I don't need that much horsepower. If this unit would run the motor at 3 HP that would be just fine.
@SeanEvelegh
@SeanEvelegh 4 жыл бұрын
Hey mate, I know exactly what you are saying. however I'm not an expert so sadly I cannot help. I recommend emails clarke and the tool company would definitely be able to help.
@aarong8933
@aarong8933 3 жыл бұрын
Do you or anyone else reading this really think you need a three phase motor for a machine if the machine comes in either single phase or three phase?
@SeanEvelegh
@SeanEvelegh 3 жыл бұрын
to be honest, three phase is for much bigger workshops as they have a bit more power and more energy efficient. so you don't need it, and I have since changed my table saw to a single phase one.
@conductive-qy7db
@conductive-qy7db 3 жыл бұрын
230v inverter will be more compact. This look way to big for that job
@stephent1117
@stephent1117 5 жыл бұрын
Once you have used a Wadkin nothing else will do.
@joetrupa4183
@joetrupa4183 2 жыл бұрын
Howmatch
@the_real_hislordship
@the_real_hislordship 2 жыл бұрын
That machine spinning up didn't sound like proper three phase. Motor should start much faster than that. Have a look at my 3.phase shredder here and hear how fast the startup is kzbin.infoHuJwUg_Tjrg If you are really getting three phase from a single phase, it must be pulling one huge current on the phase. Not ideal. I'd just get proper three phase in the first place.
@MWSRD
@MWSRD 3 жыл бұрын
OMG....Nooooo PLEASE Read any "old" electrical motor wiring hand book you can jst add a CAP and change windings on main input and just run on single phase 220V with capacitor......!!! Go On How Much Then?...plz?.
@MWSRD
@MWSRD 3 жыл бұрын
NOT TOO Mention that a 220VDc P/M Motor has 3Hp and runs on only 4AMPS @220VAc.....mmmmmm standard plug and 1/3rd the size and weight...pmsl...lol BUT...OK?.
@Ignisan_66
@Ignisan_66 3 жыл бұрын
American electrical system is so inferior and outdated. In most European countries all buildings (even small homes and apts) get all three-phases 230/400V i.e. 400V between phases, 230V between phase and ground.
@the_real_hislordship
@the_real_hislordship 2 жыл бұрын
I'm in South Africa and I have three phase 400v too. Can't understand the US and UK being so backward.
@AndrewDeLong
@AndrewDeLong 2 жыл бұрын
It's all about need here in the states. On a main road such that I live on, 3 phase is readily available. On a secondary or back road that my parents live on, single phase is all that's needed. Makes no sense to run extra lines to places that won't use it.
@the_real_hislordship
@the_real_hislordship 2 жыл бұрын
@@AndrewDeLong seems strange for long runs to have a single phase. Three would be more efficient. But I guess it's economics 🤔
@AndrewDeLong
@AndrewDeLong 2 жыл бұрын
@@the_real_hislordship I can only speak for my region of my state, but as far as our power supplier is concerned, it's cheaper to run one single phase line than it is to run three lines on back roads. The setup requires different construnction on the poles themselves. I suspect it might not be so much of an issue if they just burried the lines like any sane person would expect. 🤣
@slowpoke96Z28
@slowpoke96Z28 3 жыл бұрын
Sweet. Too bad I’m in America lol.
@mariocora2451
@mariocora2451 3 жыл бұрын
;
@NOMADdaf
@NOMADdaf 2 жыл бұрын
What the hell is "free" phase power? And never heard of a "free" horse power motor.
@nou4898
@nou4898 3 жыл бұрын
69th comment
@SeanEvelegh
@SeanEvelegh 3 жыл бұрын
congrats!
@thebatprince2398
@thebatprince2398 3 жыл бұрын
lame
@SeanEvelegh
@SeanEvelegh 3 жыл бұрын
Alright 'The Bat Prince'
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