How to Use the AR-23A Liberator Carbine in Helldivers 2

The Viper Commandos Warbond for Helldivers 2 includes only 1 primary weapon, the AR-23A Liberator Carbine. Is it good? and what are some tips to use this effectively? Let's discuss.
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[@infinite_ammo]

I read somewhere this cool idea to make this gun more unique: give it taped magazines, that way it would have a very fast reload and a regular one alternating, keeping the "spray and pray" direction and "jungle soldier'" theme alive

[@docuzi]

I actually like this gun too. It's my primary lately, but i mainly use it for close range encounters or when I'm reloading my MG on runs

[@captaintruth]

he get's it

[@JoeyJoestar99]

@@captaintruth Sorry but what's there to get? It is perfectly fine that he uses it, if he enjoys it. But close range is shotgun range... which is also accurate at medium... which does more damage... and has more ammo. No this gun doesn't have a porpuse other than looking cool.

[@sandran17]

A man who only accepts fully auto

[@mauriciomeyer627]

I actually thought this gun performed better than expected on the bots. It puts so many bullets downrange in so little time that you kill the little guys very fast and pop devastators heads despite the recoil because by the time you got off target you already shot around the head area about 10 times

[@noble_lemon]

Man i can make 💀x30 with incendiary breaker on small bots with one clip

[@mbk337]

Yeah, I agree, it shreds.

[@petercottantail7850]

the draw backs of this weapon against bots don't really matter when you have a support weapon to do the heavy lifting, and this for emergency get off me situations. i find that weapon review videos almost always say one faction is bad cause they are only using the weapon and not using it as a kit. amy primary that can deal with berserkers effectively is a good bot weapon. but i don't know for sure how true that is, sometimes people's definition of "good against berserkers" involves shooting them while running away for 30 seconds

[@mauriciomeyer627]

@@noble_lemon yeah but using incendiary breaker for breakfast every single day gets tiring

[@mauriciomeyer627]

@@petercottantail7850 for me if a weapon can deal with some devastators while not requiring a lot of shots it's good enough of a weapon for me, berserkers are generally not an issue, also being able to kill groups of small bots fast enough so they can't call in a bot drop

[@gabrielmckenna5055]

This thing really needs an extended magazine. 70-80 rounds would make it feel so much better to use.

[@Micro-Lander]

It wouldn't be a carbine at that rate, that being said they should just make the stalwart a primary at this rate, and introduce a intermediate between the Liberator and the Stalwart

[@gabrielmckenna5055]

@@Micro-Lander Helldivers 1 had plenty of weapons with extended magazines, including carbines. It’s really not that big a deal

[@alphaone321]

@@Micro-Landeri don’t think we can possibly carry 7 mags per weapon 4 granades on top of the mags for the support weapon. So if thats not realistic, why does it matter if we give the carabine more bullets ? In fact all rifles need more bullets, thats why they feel so trash, one mag of incendiary breaker and i clear a bug horde 4 mags of the carabine or any assault rifle and i clear maybe 99% of the horde. It just doesn’t compete. And against bots well its mostly same shit.

[@blackreign673]

It's like super earth just isn't capable of making some extended or drum magazines

[@petercottantail7850]

"realism" meanwhile im magically pulling out 20 railgun cartages out of thin air. there was a response to AR magazines by the devs saying that rather than increasing ammo enemies are too spongy in the first place. which lets be real, thats only half the truth, if enemies didn't take 80% of their health on one body part then basically start over on a new body part, it would make AR much more effective. any burst of damage to onetap something will be more ammo efficient and consistent than something that takes multiple bullets (except crossbow cause its rate if fire and clip size male it even worse plus its aoe is too weak to get more than one) since consistency is difficult to maintain especially on a horde scale where you are doing this over and over, and have certain enemies programed to jump around you when you look at them and bouncing crosshairs ect. its just fundamentally flawed, increasing ammo count would make the experience more enjoyable but you are still left with a much longer ttk at the end of the day with no trade offs to make it worth while. and the best part is these lower clip sizes makes the scorcher just that much better since thats its only weakness as a weapon

[@jasony8480]

Wong point of view about the 1st person. 1st person reduces recoil over 3rd and the 1st person viewpoint is still very snappy while also maintaining almost the same amount of situational awareness with the reflex sight. Replacing traditional 3rd person usage with 1st is a great way to improve weapon performance without needing recoil compensating armor perks.

[@Jhunta]

primaries/secondaries/nades and support strats are about VARIETY. so that there is something for everyone. not every weapon needs to feel perfect just to YOU. youre supposed to open a menu, try various items, and eventually select one that quenches YOUR particular appetite. not every warbond is going to come w a quasar and an incendiary breaker, but more variety, ever expanding the menu of options for everyone. there are weapons that i love to use that others would say suck, when they dont suck used in competent hands that can appreciate their role. for example, i love the liberator concussive. almost everyone will tell you it sucks, but i am here to tell you, that it does not suck when used properly. it is an amazing gun! most players just havnt figured out how to use it properly. the base liberator is a standard issue rifle that everyone starts with. the liberator carbine is an upgraded version found in a warbond for those that really like the base liberator but are looking for an upgrade. not EVERYONE has to love it. it's just more variety.

[@captaintruth]

YOU GET IT! It's about the diver not the gun. I sometimes use a weapon and don't really click with it, I know it's not the gun but because it doesnt suit how I want to play. Which the guns don't. You should pick your desired role (horde clear, utility, support, mediums, heavy killer etc) then find the tools to support that.

[@Jhunta]

@@captaintruth and you get it too! glad to be a helldiver in the ranks w you.

[@captaintruth]

@@Jhunta We're out here carrying these moaners every day, is this the best SEAF can send us? haha

[@Jhunta]

@@captaintruth lmao xD

[@Largentina.]

Wow. Someone that truly understands the design of this game. You are a rarity.

[@willrobinson1482]

This with a flamethrower, eagle airstrike, napalm and 500kg is my current horde clear loadout. Grenade pistol for bug holes, stuns for chargers, carbine for small patrols, flamethrower and airstrikes for breaches and hordes, 500 kg for bile titans. Lot of fun imo and you can easily get 500+ kills

[@2MeterLP]

My current horde clear is sickle, MG-43 (for all those medium bugs), laser rover, MG sentry. and stun grenades and orbital precision for chargers. For bile titans I have teammates.

[@ninjacow]

Why this gun over the Tenderizer or the Pummeler? With the Flamethrower, I'm looking for a gun suited for longer-range and to deal with Hunters/Stalkers better.

[@DeaDLettuce]

Ngl that loadout sounds fun, gonna have to try it out next session lol

[@marini11]

Yes it needed to be more unique if it's going to be the only Main Weapon in the Warband but it's just another Liberator. Can be improved with a larger magazine or slightly higher power

[@dylansmith6078]

It is higher power tho you have higher fire rate and handling from the base liberator

[@videoshi7203]

i eat cheese

[@DrPooplove]

Yum

[@pyroplays599]

Me too

[@blackreign673]

I put cheese on my hotdogs

[@Reaper9-4]

@@blackreign673 you disgust me.. jk i like it stuffed in my sausages, hotdogs are too small and arent that good as bbq

[@Jonrocks7]

Cheese is yum

[@MrFunzerker]

I kind of like it, it's a nice bullet hose. I like the fpv too

[@cusman]

Best parts of Viper Commandos Warbond for me have been the Experimental Infusion booster and the SG-22 Bushwhacker side-arm. I also like all of the cosmetic additions that are part of it.

[@speedyazi5029]

This gun theoretically is awesome. But it needs at least 10 magazines. Hell, even the base Liberator does as the Penetrator has 10 reserve mags. I still like it but I want to shoot more of it.

[@JuanR20421]

I rather have less mags and more ammo per mag

[@captaintruth]

agreed, great gun but it chews through its mags.

[@captaintruth]

@@JuanR20421 that swings the power of the gun more though. If you want more rounds you'll get it with the sickle but less power per round. It is after all just a primary.

[@JuanR20421]

@@captaintruth uh yeah I want more power

[@captaintruth]

@@JuanR20421 But there comes a point at which if we give everyone what they want we'll literally just walk the game. You know how fast that gets boring. There are machine gun supports for a reason, if you are getting sick of running out of ammo with your primary. take a machine gun, you can still kill almost everything. take some orbitals or eagles, impact nades and a scorcher/jar 5 etc. You can now still kill heavies and you are munching up everything else. If the quasar guys get a 100 mag ar we'll end up with even more basic picks than we are getting now. I can kill more chargers in a shorter space with my HMG than any quasar player and a pair of 500kgs is quicker for a bile titan.

[@Brakka86]

The recoil is substantially easier to control scoped in than hipfire.

[@dawyrm1]

I like using burst on this gun. The high ROF makes bursts very tight, and the gun gets very controllable. You can still spray by clicking multiple times if needed, but you won't drain all your ammo as fast.

[@albertfereck4998]

I only run this is burst. Recoil is there but much easier to manage

[@longshot52]

I've been using this against bugs level 7-8 and it seems viable as a CQC option. The optic is really nice, and makes it quite accurate at medium range which elevated it over shotguns IMHO.

[@mothman6378]

stalwart is my weapon when with my group which leaves me a LOT of freedom with 'primary' and secondary weapon choices, and i have to say, with this and the (essentially m320) grenade pistol, i'm in heaven. crowd control has never been easier, i feel like i'm back in Malevelon Creek, and now I can't wait until we go back.

[@2MeterLP]

Since the buffs I prefer MG-43. Stalwart is awesome but its nice to be abled to just hose down hiveguards and bile spitters with the medium armor penetration and great durable damage.

[@AEGISDEFENSE]

Really like it, the higher firerate gives it a good place. Pairs will with the Machinegun or HMG. Really pairs with anything as an Oh Crap! backup weapon. Grenade pistol secondary is great with it.

[@thermiteturtle3486]

I really like this gun for it's strengths and weaknesses, while not as efficient as the incen breaker, i love the snapping from one target to the next aspect of the carbine. The poor ammo eco either means I'm forced to scavenge MPOIs for ammo if I'm the lone operator of the team or carefully manage my ammo to last to the next resupply. After the gun drag present on all of the other weapons, the liberator carbine feels really special with it's improved ergonomics.

[@epgamer1145]

I would have loved to see them expand on the one handed firearms outside the secondaries. Much like the defender smg.

[@TrixterTheFemboy]

I still wish we got a bow weapon in this warbond. Would kinda fit the jungle elite vibe imo, could have it charge to fire like the Purifier and have separate ammo types for trick arrows(piercing for high raw damage, corrosive gas like a budget Orbital Gas Strike, and stun like a Stun Grenade)

[@AdjudicatorBrbal]

You can always tell who didnt play helldivers 1. Because they fail to realize is. Yes you can use any weapon on any enemy. But there are certain ones that will be more effective determining on who or what enemy you use it on. Take me perspective. I use the Liberator C. Been my main since day one of helldivers 2 release. But with bots it staggers them. Bugs, its useful but not effective. This new Liberator is the Liberator with base assets but C recoil. Its useless against bots but useful for bugs. I hate that all these goofy content creators show weapon demos only fighting one enemy as if all weapons are all around weapons. You’re misguiding people to think the weapons will work for every aspect. I hate that theres this stupid “i only fight bugs” nonsense. Because, the one day one of these new ayers come to the bot side and try to use this, they will find out fast theyre stuck in a map with a useless weapon.

[@justyouraveragem4a136]

Yeah, this is 100% the truth and why I despise people only using Tier Lists and KZbinrs for stuff You already see too many instances of people who “only fight bugs” bringing something like the Breaker Incendiary into a Bot match and wondering why they’re getting their asses whooped

[@notcaboose4415]

big thing of note that the burst is actually really useful, it takes 3 shots to the head to kill a warrior, and overall helps you conserve ammo. when a bug breach pops though switch it to full auto

[@poobs2361]

A few people mentioned that weapon modding would be added to the game somewhere down the line. Haven't confirmed it myself but, as people said, drum mags would make this gun a BEAST.

[@inurokuwarz]

I think the strength of the base Liberator is it's adaptability. It isn't as good at crowd management as the Carbine, but the moderate zoom on the scope and burst fire make it a pretty decent battle rifle.

[@Deadjim17]

This carbine is everything I've been wanting from a bugs primary for some time. A faster firing primary with Liberator handling and damage and is perfect for corwd control rather than having to use a shotty or reach for the MG flavoured strategem, freeing one up for a more destructive strat that can overcome all of its downsides.

[@PomaiKajiyama]

I think another direction they could go to make these feel more unique is to make the liberator variants one handed since it's a bullpup balanced to the rear.

[@primary2630]

When you said "Dr. Pooplove here" and I looked down and saw that was actually your name made me laugh

[@Captain_Yogurt]

I was really hoping this would function like an smg. Specifically in regards to firing behind you while sprinting, and allowing you to carry stuff with it. Just make the recoil debuff go up even higher in these situations cause you’re only one handing it, but it should still be doable

[@Jhunta]

assualt rifles all got their durabilty dmg increased making them a lot more powerful without having to give them all blunt dmg increases. they feel great. the new carbine is awesome. best way to use it i found is w burst mode to manage the recoil and rapid bullet empty.

[@captaintruth]

high ROF guns tend to suffer from dumping bullets into dead enemies. burst is always a great option for this and having the choice of both is best!

[@Florkl]

If a primary can't kill a bile spewer in one magazine (currently you need a little bit more than one), it needs to be buffed until it can.

[@lifewithhonordiewithglory1835]

Give me two more mags and this thing is my go to allways. Its so much fun

[@Davernn]

I'm learning to like the carbine for its (few) strengths, but I've been wishing for a medium armor burst dmr since the warbond first got leaked

[@tatersalad76]

I really like this gun on my Heavy build

[@hostradomis8732]

Us: “Assault rifles are underpowered and feel bad to use.” Arrowhead: “here is another one “

[@azakatura]

they keep remaking a terrible gun lol. like no. stop.

[@gabrielg.e.j9060]

there is one AR that is good... which is the Sickle lol it's the only AR that is keeping up with the hordes of enemies in this game with a reasonable ammo economy. every other assault rifle needs it's mags increased by 50% and ammo capacity doubled

[@goldbrickgangboss]

I'd be satisfied if they would just slightly increase damage across the board and vastly increase ammo per mag. Like 50% more. AR's don't have any real utility, they just deal damage. So make them damage kings. Otherwise, why use the liberator carbine for close range bug fighting when the Punisher does just as good damage and also pushes bugs back with much better ammo economy?

[@zenks5883]

@@gabrielg.e.j9060 i agree 100% and ironically its not even in the same category

[@matthewledbetter3444]

⁠@@gabrielg.e.j9060honestly the Defender and Pummeler are also just better ARs than the actual ARs, and they’re one handed to boot

[@Rigel_6]

It is probably the best feeling gun on burst, maybe except that high rof super citizen smg, but I don't have that one

[@Mr_ViPR]

The Carbine is a very fun weapon and imo it does fill a niche we don't have in primaries yet, with its super high fire rate being the second fastest in the game it feels very powerful. I just think they didn't lean in hard enough. If it had 10 mags and a slightly faster reload it'd really be a beast at close range. It’d still be mid at bots but I think being stronger on one side is a good place for a weapon to be.

[@captaintruth]

Yeah i wish it was a little better for bots but it kind of wouldn't do what it does so well against bugs if it didn't.

[@matiasdelafuente3106]

I really liked this gun. As you said, very good on the majority of bugs, but also on the bots, as long as you keep it to troopers and walker pilots, very good too! Devastartors fall quick too... if you're both in cover and at close range (rare combo, i know xD) AND fire short controlled burst to their faces xD That bein said if i want an auto primary, for the bot's i'd get the tenderizer. But for the bugs? this liberator variant seriously liberates the heck outta the bugs XD

[@emirwattabor6991]

Honestly the ammo economy still makes me prefer the Liberator. Especially against Scavengers and Prowlers I feel like the Carbine wastes sooooo many bullets, while the base Liberator lets me focus on those precise one to two shot kills. On the other hand, the Carbine's power lets me deal with Hunters and Bile Spewers which are a big weakness for me with the normal Liberator.

[@alabasterindigo]

I read somewhere that someone said this rifle is like the Knight but better. I don’t have access to that smg but I’ll take their word for it ‘cause this one actually looks like fun. If you couple it with a hard hitting support weapon then this rifle looks to be a nice swarm killer.

[@garrettclark7778]

Knight is better for the range this rifle thrives in. The knight also has near instant handling of where your aiming alongside one handed use. Knight has better recoil when you memorize it The extra 500 Rpm of the knight also allows for the more horsepower in an instant. 200+ hours using the knight as my experience

[@St.Sparta]

⁠@@garrettclark7778I made a comment saying you could one-hand the Knight, not seeing that you already said that. My bad.

[@dallas9568]

IMO this is not an upgrade to the base liberator, this is a side grade that excels at bugs specifically. The base liberator is great against bots/bugs if you have good accuracy. The fact that this gun doesn’t have a scope and fires faster locks you into close range engagements and doesn’t allow for surgical shot placements. The base liberator is capable of knocking off limbs on the bugs quite fast and a brood commander that is crawling at 2mpg is no longer a threat.

[@yuch1102]

It’s a pretty fun AR, it is top 5 primary vs bugs

[@terrancecloverfield6791]

I kinda wish the Liberator Penetrator had that snappy kind of fire rate too. The burst mode on the Carbine feels good.

[@justyouraveragem4a136]

Penetrator needs a bit more work, but that’s definitely a good start

[@hody.8381]

I really like how this gun sounds, that's usually enough for me. Wish ARs were better though.

[@mist12345678910]

Can you compare this to the knight?

[@carlosvicenty-9856]

Cool

[@MatzeMB85]

As a bug weapon it does pretty good up close. With a primary to use at range it becomes solid. A bit more ammo or lighting fast reloads this and the regular carbine has their place in the meta.

[@justyouraveragem4a136]

Yeah the only thing that needs a little tweaking on this gun is a faster reload, besides that though it is really nice and quite fun to use, incredibly satisfying to use in burst fire mode at medium range

[@captaintruth]

there is no meta it is already great. just needs 10 mags

[@Flameshot_]

I still haven't gotten the chance to try it in game yet, I think of it as the uzi in the primary slot, even still I wish arrowhead did a better job giving auto rifles their own individual personalities and made them a better over all contender, considering high single fire damage is the primary meta and or shotguns do auto rifles jobs better than a auto rifle ever could

[@SorryBones]

I heard it’s going to be very good against illuminates… Shields care about how many times you hit them and not how hard. Same for the throwing knife - goes right through a Helldiver’s personal shield backpack. Gonna go through illu shields too 👀

[@sivel7493]

Between the two Liberators, base and this one, I still prefer the base Liberator more, cuz this gun really makes you overshoot quite often, it's amazing for mowing down bugs of course but sometimes I feel like I waste through unnecessary amount of ammo most of the times, you dont need to spend 5+ bullets on a scavenger xD. Plus, the scope + lower recoil of the base Liberator is nice to snipe down passing patrols from the distance here and there. But if I'm gonna be honest...the main reason I prefer the base Liberator more is because it doesnt have the fugly camo the Carabine variant has, it's a HUGE shame that they basically reskinned the Patriot AR from the leaks, which had that amazing and tasteful black/yellow color scheme like the base Liberator, and gave it the vomit green jungle camo, can't say I'm a fan, it only looks good with the Rambo armors.

[@duross101]

There's nothing really competing with the tenderizer now that it was buffed so much. I truly believe it's the best AR

[@justyouraveragem4a136]

Yeah, its really good, although the default Liberator and Liberator Carbine do hold up well as well

[@jamestam5906]

how does it compare to the breaker incendiary......

[@teriases]

I feel there should be a bit more things they can do to make this gun more special - for example since it’s a smaller shorter rifle maybe the reload can be a bit faster? Also, how about a silencer?

[@carlosvilla1688]

I love it. Is fast like hell😊

[@pastalasagna2924]

Are you going to do a video on the tenderizer like this?

[@DrPooplove]

Would you like one?

[@pastalasagna2924]

@@DrPooplove I would! I am curious about your take. I've used it for a few missions, and I think it's a really solid gun. For me, I think it's at least an A tier primary. Because of my playstyle, however, I think the sickle is better suited to my playstyle. I like to have the highest kill count on the team

[@andrewemerson347]

The tenderizer probably is the better gun but the liberator is viable as long as you can maintain your ammo.

[@BP-fu6kk]

Base liberator is fine, because it's the general troop weapon. You shouldn't have the best to start, it's a solid start weapon for a new troop.

[@jonservo]

I really would love to see them release a spray and pray weapon that comes with a 100rd drum mag. Most of these style weapons have such low capacity that it turns into all pray and no spray. If i want an AR i go for the tenderizer now almost every time, but the stalwart is still the ultimate spray and pray weapon, I'd rather run that with a hard hitting primary than use most of the ARs

[@captaintruth]

Its called the stalwart....

[@jonservo]

@@captaintruth you mean the stalwart I mentioned later in my comment. I'm guessing you didn't read the whole thing. The stalwart is great but I meant I would like to see a primary with a higher capacity

[@captaintruth]

@@jonservo Its called the stalwart haha, why should your primary fill an entire role. What is the point of the stalwart player if people just run stalwart esc primaries? you've got the sickle anyway

[@jonservo]

@@captaintruth according to that logic why even make the carbine if you can just use the sickle? The breaker spray and pray has almost doubled the capacity of other shotguns at 26 with a bit less damage. The devs call the carbine a spray and pray weapon so it's not unreasonable to expect a bump in ammo, 60 -80 would be nice and a trade off could be a bit less damage. It's meant to be a close quarters weapon and the last thing you need with a bunch of bugs in your face is to empty your mag in a couple seconds and need to reload while you're surrounded. A larger mag size gives you some wiggle room to work around. It wouldn't replace the point of the stalwart which has a massive mag of 250 rounds, nothing else comes close and it's a great pair with the more powerful and sometimes slower primaries. If the carbine had some more ammo per mag it would be a nice pair with some of the slower strategem weapons that can't help you if you get surrounded. They both could fill a niche depending on if you favored a powerful primary or strategem.

[@esprit101]

I think you're seriously missing out if you don't use the burst mode. It solves the recoil and ammo issues and you can essentially treat it like a semi auto DMR. 2 burst take out all small enemies with light amor and if you need more rounds just keep clicking 😂

[@2MeterLP]

All assault rifles need 10 more ammo and 2 more mags. The only automatic primary I use is the Sickle because I hate constantly running out of ammo!

[@mossblomma]

On paper it's a bit weird, if you compare its stats to the tenderizer it's just a bit worse or even on almost every point, it only has the upside that with less damage per bullet, but only slightly less dps and total damage per mag it could potentially spread its damage more evenly so there is less overkill, so you could maybe say that the tenderizer is the bot variant as it is easier to use at range, and the carbine is the bug variant since there is a greater need to not waste damage.

[@andrewstewartbunker9966]

I like the base liberator vs the bots.

[@dylansmith6078]

Burst is really nice on bugs so you waste way less ammo especially the hunters

[@jorgebarbera]

The Fire Breaker is still way more effective against bugs. Carbine is fun, but not viable in meta/high difficulties, especially for the small magazine size. Good video though! Subscribed 😊

[@anom794939393]

stalkers headshot health is very low, just aim for the little face and they will drop quick. the issue with carbine is it pulls up and the stalker moves fast af so you are probably damaging different health pools.

[@vinverita]

Basically the Patriot from the first war

[@reoperez]

Yeah i dont know why they couldnt have just called it that, and the "Patriot" Mech could just be the Obsidian again or something else. And why does the Knight look and operate completely different than the old one then? As a HD1 veteran its so mildly infuriating.

[@Cozza69]

The new liberator is awesome, not the new meta but very useable.

[@Eravel]

I'm surprised they didn't just give us a Patriot honestly, considering it was in HD1.

[@LaserTractor]

Well I mean let's be real: To compete with breaker incendiary, newly buffed Tenderizer (as good as it is now) must have at least 50 or 60 round magazine AT LEAST. This AR? Other weapons? I don't even know. The other way is to just NERF Breaker Incendiary. But you may guess how good and easy players will treat this nerf. Devs are trying to balance weapons for 2 absolutely different enemies (automatons and bugs). Heavy and tedious task. So idk... Why don't just balance ENEMIES instead of guns?

[@justyouraveragem4a136]

To be fair the Breaker Incendiary’s DOT damage is heavily overtuned, so people shouldn’t be surprised it gets a nerf potentially in the future

[@lISamuraill]

Needs higher magazine size 65 bullets per mag and an extra magazine could be a good buff

[@mernyr]

My problem is ammo, the mag should be larger and you should carry more of them… then again that can be said for most assault rifles

[@Sheisskopf]

They sorely need to display hidden damage falloff on weapons. I'm thinking that's where you'll see the difference in many of the other AR's compared to the carbine.

[@THEGREATMOLINA]

That gun mercs stalkers in my experience

[@777funman]

This gun rips. To those who say it needs a bigger mag, just reload it while there’s a round chambered. Racking the round is 70% of the animation time

[@Arcionix231likePapyrus]

The gun is very good ngl I can snipe and do good on close range also is kind good for killing the little bot and berserker and pair whit the rail gun and bushwacker is doing good whit the bug and toaster!

[@Kimahri01]

The weapon is really ok, but adjudicator so the same but better, Sickle, tenderizer and pummeler is you wants a assault rifle, amd incendiary breaker for close fight. So this weapon have other weapons that work better

[@LordVader69420]

If they had just put a grenade launcher attachment on it, that would have made it a unique weapon and actually pretty good. Would have fit the predator theme as well, but i guess that's asking too much...

[@NateDoge1016]

This gun could have really benefited from a drum magazine. Even 60 rounds over 45 would have been better for realizing it's full potential

[@captaintruth]

it needs either extra mags or slightly more rounds per mag and itll be sweet

[@Ifyoucanreadthisgooglebroke]

It fires the same round as the base liberator, guard dog, and stalwart. It has the same durability damage as those. It just has higher rof though. It does seem to bench the base liberator. The superb handling and higher rof just make it better as a close range brawler of a gun. If you want more precision, why only go up to the base liberator?

[@Tohbash_]

This gun is "kind of" like the MP-98 KNIGHT, expect for those who didn't buy the Super Citizen Edition.

[@captaintruth]

yeah i missed that one and was gutted so glad we got our own primary "lead spitter"

[@2MeterLP]

I want assault rifles with extra effects! Like creating small puffs of poison gas that lingers for a few seconds so multiple enemies can walk through it. Or an electric AR where 5 shots on the same target causes an electric explosion. Or a railgun AR that fires 3 round bursts that pierce multiple enemies but has to charge between bursts. Whats the point of having lots of ARs when they all feel the same?

[@ruinedstar]

Tape a knife to the front to the gun so we have a meele attack that makes it more unique and give it a bigger magazine. But jokes aside i like it very mutch against the bugs and use it often. But seriusly you burn through mags very fast.

[@reoperez]

Jokes aside your proposition is pretty damn good. The only explanation that they wouldnt is cuz the upgrade system is coming and thus, every rifle gets bayonets and/or bigger mags(maybe)

[@ruinedstar]

@@reoperez would be cool

[@binging3999]

AR's just lack stats to compete. An incendiary breaker does 240 damage if all the pellets hit the target (impossible to miss vs bugs) with a mag size of 25 shells. Ignoring the fire damage over time thats potentially 6000 damage per magazine. Whereas the new AR23A has 45 rounds at 60 damage per round, thats 2700 potential damage per magazine. There are pros and cons of the guns im ignoring for the sake of this example. (I know the ar23a would be better vs bots than incin breaker, I know im also ignoring durable damage) They need to make these weapons mathematically make sense and that leaves AH with 3 choices: 1. Double AR ammo capacity and reserve ammo 2. Double AR damage 3. A little of both, more damage and more ammo

[@captaintruth]

They already do, people that thing the shotguns are king just got comfortable with an easy playstyle

[@binging3999]

@@captaintruth the math disagrees

[@captaintruth]

@@binging3999 you mean the maths where we just ignore armour pen or the ability to clear bug holes, factories etc. That maths lol

[@binging3999]

I literally said in my first post I was ignoring certain aspect. I even purposefully chose two weapons that have light pen and can't destroy bug holes/fabs. You're either stupid or trolling. Like you could have just said you aren't literate and left it at that

[@binging3999]

@@captaintruth You could have just said you don't know what reading comprehension is and left it at that. I said in my first post I was ignoring certain aspects. I also purposefully chose two weapons that CANT destroy bug holes/fabs and had light pen and you're still up my ass about it 2 days later. You're either stupid or trolling.

[@jared5583]

He he he AR-23A goes brrrrrrr

[@josephhein9497]

As much as I love this weapon, it has all the characteristics of a traditional SMG... Why didn't they just make the SMGs function like this?

[@justyouraveragem4a136]

The Knight SMG does function similarly, except you need Super Citizen Edition for it

[@raphaelchaitas1107]

if AR get 70-80 ammo per mag i would actually consider using them. Right now you are shooting 3 warrior in the head and you have to reload. Meanwhile there are like 4 bile spewers 2 chargers and 12 hunters walking towards you. And your going through total ammo like its nothing

[@reeeeee5308]

You know, maybe you should consider using an offensive stratagem instead of pretending that your primary should delete an entire army of enemies. You don't even realize that a weapon like this is better suited for hunters and scavengers, while still being nice against warriors. Meanwhile a weapon like the diligence is the exact opposite. The weapons perform greatly if people cooperate. Many players believe liberator concussive is trash, while in reality it's supposed to be used as a support near a teammate, which works and it's pretty enjoyable as well. It was made clear that your primary alone is not supposed to be enough to finish a match.

[@some-random-idiot6853]

I run it mostly im burst fire mode but mostly because i came from halo and im familiar with that lol

[@protosam5556]

I feel like it's trying to be the knight smg, but a little worse lol

[@ilovedemocracyy]

Liberator carbine feels like stalwart in general… expect you lose alot of ammo and magazine capacity. My only complaint is that it reminds me too much of the normal Liberator and it is going to struggle in the higher levels. I’m not seeing the value of running Liberator Carbine over best shotguns or explosive primaries.

[@CharliMorganMusic]

If it doesn't have medium pen, it's worthless.

[@thomasrobach3552]

The way i use this gun is that I take the Sickle instead...

[@Reaper9-4]

listen here pal, im not gonna watch the video im just gonna answer you right now how to use it : ''BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT'' like a badass and then reload to do it again until ur out of ammo. pls AH dont nerf this gun its good as it is it only needs buffs if changes are to be made.

[@besaidknight]

... "Chain Fed" mod for ALL AR's!!! XD

[@gian4601]

it just needs more magazines

[@Backonos]

needs a bolt catch for faster reloads

[@broox189]

It needs a larger magazine I run out of ammo all the time with this gun

[@Machomanrandyaverage]

The patch was good Only thing I like from viper commandos is the booster Video 10/10 would poop again

[@zacbachusz9887]

I like your videos, but I gotta ask man. Why is your username “Dr. Pooplove”?

[@DrPooplove]

I like poop jokes

[@zacbachusz9887]

@@DrPooplove fair enough

[@Haznul247]

Hes a Fecal Transplant surgeon

[@BGB1983]

AR's need 100 round mags like in Aliens. Come on Super Earth!!!!!!!!

[@darkmugetsu6572]

Well truth be told having 3 weapons come out every month sooner or later the guns will feel more copy and paste and they would run out of ideas for weapons faster if you get what I mean.

[@IRMentat]

literally pointless primary (liberator was previously running third for "AR"/rapid-fire tier now it's closer to 5th), a "grenade" option with NO BOOM and unreliable angle-of-fire an admittedly tasty boomstick, booster that's handy in group-runs for pivoting around the rick-points (the stamina boost is more useful/reliable most other times, same for vitality) and some skins i don't hate. But why is the medium armour a cash-shop item? That's the one thing i find egregious. yes the carbine is "better" than the lib but the tenderiser, ajudicator (semi-auto mode) and both defender variants are better than the entire liberator family. that's before taking the non-full-auto options into account which are 95% of the time way more efficient on-map.