How to use the Golden Section for Character Design

[@kiwimelero1570]

I remember watching Kim Possible when I was a child and try to replicate that drawing style, more than 10 years later I'm learning it from the man Himself. Your work is one of the reasons I kept drawing. Love your videos thank for sharing your knowledge!

[@Chadley10]

Can't agree more. This man is my all time favorite artist. I have always dreamed of reaching his levels of talent. Wish I could meet and just draw with 'em for one day.

[@tomd7834]

This is fucking amazing. I've been in design/illustration for 7 years and I've never seen the golden ratio taught in such an engaging and informative way. I'm gonna buy a set!

[@aaronzywicki6384]

Indeed !

[@frixpxpx]

I'm very glad to find this video. i have been struggling and questioning this golden ratio in term for artwork use, but you explain it in a way that i can really understand, now my life has meaning again *cries in spanish

[@brandonperez2019]

fahmi fauzi I agreee I’m trying so hard to understand it

[@neuroticnation144]

@fahmi *cries in spanish! Lol 😂 😂😂

[@JoeAzzato]

Awesome info. I knew about the Golden Ratio in buildings and in nature. I never realized it was used in character design! Thanks for this video!

[@SoraTakeuchi]

Literally, blows my mind. Thank you very much, this is maybe save me from my ¨draw depression¨ Great video and thanks for sharing your knowledge.

[@MotherRat-ii6ji]

Awesome to see this technique in action being applied to a design. Thanks!

[@mtmeade3]

I just went over to your website and purchased one of these from you. I am stoked! I have wanted one of these for a long time and haven't been able to find the right one for me. This is it! I can't think of a better artist I can support in the process. I loved Kim Possible when my kids were growing up! One of my fav cartoons and still is! Thanks for all you do and share Stephen, I really appreciate it! Gonna check out your campaign for your book as well. Really cool stuff, TFS!! Big Hugs!! Reeah.

[@M0kuu]

Stephen.... this has just....FILLED ME WITH DETERMINATION !!!! Great vid, i was currently reading a book on the whole theory but it was waaaay to technical for my brain to wrap around for an artistic purpose - This video was the piece needed to make it all clearer and im definitely saving some cash to order the tool a.s.a.p (one less subway, more art fuel.) Thanks alot !

[@TayTayJelly]

AMAZING!! mind kinda blown. can't wait to share this concept with other artists!

[@clc3897]

I know this is an oldie, but I just got acquainted with your channel via Will Terry’s. This tool is to die for. I bought one for me and one for one of my best students in class. Thanks for this incredible opportunity to learn more every single day. Best wishes, Ligia.

[@AlyssaLTanner]

Thanks for making this video! when ever stuff like this was mentioned in my art textbooks it was totally over my head. but this is a very practical was to use it and use it effectively! Ive always struggled to fine just the right proportions. I feel like I'm just shooting in the dark until something just looks good on paper. I'm excited to try this out!

[@diogosaraiva3433]

Thank you so much, Stephen!! This is absolutely awesome and blowed my mind! Studying art we always see the golden section being used in compositions, architecture (as you said), etc. However, I never thought this "obviously" could be used in character design! Thanks for this lesson!

[@eliseugouveia5065]

I love the way you say "proportion". :)

[@estephan90]

NICE! First time seeing that tool. Thank you Stephen Silver. love that realization at the end that the heads were cut off too; I would've acted the same way. Now I'm itching to try this XD

[@ArtOfDavidAmos]

I love the end when you discovered the camera... Cracked me up!! 😂

[@wisonhendrik5855]

This is absolutely new knowledge I didn't know about. I'll keep in mind when trying designing something. Thanks for this great lesson, Stephen :)

[@KoniWorx]

Blew my mind completely

[@monicabilicic9479]

I use to do the Golden spiral as a kid in all my notebooks , I guess I could sense it since small ,we are all intertwined and we r all part of An amazing plan made by the Creator. He's fingerprint is in all His creation.

[@danyahlathelevite2562]

I'm impressed with this tool, great for propprtions I see!

[@minthetwai2762]

this is the best video about golden ratio. thanks. i watched until end. i am from Myanmar(Burma)

[@mozy837]

lol the ending. you could do a random ending were it turns into a horror film : ) great video Stephen! you sold me on the calipers.

[@dmkaaotearoa659]

I like the fact that this is an amazing piece of kit when it comes to getting your proportions right on the mark, 'ESPECIALLY PORTRAITS', just to name a few! But contemporary Art and Abstract, Cubism etc...don't exactly require this instrument, although, IT'S A VERY GOOD TOOL TO HAVE IN YOUR OWN TOOLBOX! I'LL be getting me one or making one or something similar, ie; A Compass altered a bit etc...☺ AWSOME video

[@petrovicgoran]

I feel like I've lost my design virginity

[@Well_possibly]

Haha

[@AFOLABITIMI]

😂

[@loadingtekno]

LOOOL! exactly the same feeling here

[@OkamiKuma]

Ah yes! The ol fibbinaci! Excellent video, thank you for taking the time to demonstrate this and the ending made me laugh HARD. gasp* "nooo...NOOOO!" lol THanks again. ;)

[@CSMurphy]

Great information Stephen. It appears at the end that he gasps because he realized he might have filmed this with the majority of it cut off. It still made more than the point though Stephen thanks for the info.

[@stacyjens8256]

This is amazing! Love it and my amazing Creator!

[@jennycita]

I just got my golden ratio calipers and I'm super excited! I have been obsessed with fractals and fibonacci for some time, and have been consistently looking for ways to apply the concepts I learn. Into things I do, and that's how I came across your videos (which are all excellent). Thanks for sharing your knowledge and for this awesome tool!

[@StephenSilver]

Thankyou enjoy

[@ilikebutteredtoast2677]

I have to say you greatly influenced me in my drawing and cartooning style: all I can say is thank you. Thank you for inspiring me to draw and planting the seed for the drive to get better, I cannot express how grateful I am for that.

[@StephenSilver]

+thank you I Like ButteredToast

[@Diamonddusted68]

love this method! I'll be applying this cause my proportions are a shocker.

[@KarenKayH]

I just got my Golden Section calipers.I paint traditional Northern New Mexico style retablos and this is just great. This is just what I needed. Thanks! Fast delivery too.

[@StephenSilver]

GREAT. Please send me a link to your art through my email on my site. would love to see your work

[@KarenKayH]

Will do!

[@muello5835]

wow this is atually really helpful unlike most artchannels

[@WindOnMyWings]

Really a fantastic tip!

[@SmoothRiker]

My birthday's at the end of the month. I might just treat myself to a pair of these.

[@michellemorean6398]

Stephen Silver you are awesome!!!

[@CoxJoxSox]

Thank you Stephen

[@fullmetal-animator]

You had these calipers sold to me two minutes in.

[@eduardoinke7081]

Kim Possible is the achievement of a lifetime. The best combination of a "modern" look and excellent animation. Some of Kim's extreme poses are just unbeatable in appeal and appropriateness for the character.

[@JesseMazzaJohnston]

Eduardo Inke I know when I was a kid I use to think Kim possible was a god damn fox.

[@professorpancake5059]

Wow, i loved Kim possible when i was smaller! Rufus ❤️

[@maytalacedo2942]

LOL XD i love it. it really is helpful for me to understand what is happening and how drawing and using ratio works. thanks steven! :D

[@shagovikov]

this is brilliant!

[@Baconarama]

F Mr. Silver. Always do a short practice take to make sure you're in frame my friend. Thanks for the fruitful lessons and I look forward to many more.

[@StephenSilver]

I know, I know. Thanks:)

[@PenandBlade]

Great video, thanks Stephen

[@Mikey22LR]

Such a helpful explanation. Thank you! :)

[@thangasaravanan]

how do you make your own calipers? DIY please

[@Taydar]

very helpful. thank you.

[@CrtoonMike]

Very informative and interesting video. Totally gobsmacked me when I saw how it worked on bugs and then cartoons. Pretty amazing. I ordered the calipers that day. Any info on how long it'll take to receive it or if any tracking number will be sent out? I especially like how you stressed this is a drawing *aid* and not something to conform to always. Next time, though, try not to lose your head(s) over the recoding. :P

[@CrtoonMike]

Wouldn't you know it, got mine yesterday. So never mind the original question. Just to "test drive" it, I picked a cartoon book at random, it was the hardcover of "Draw the Looney Tunes". Picked a random page, it was pg 77 -- a drawing of ol' Bugs. And the darn golden section held true. Head and Torso, Eyes and bottom of head (chin). Even the legs and the waist. A. Maze. Ing! Can't wait to test out my original characters with this device. Thank you, Stephen Silver, for this!

[@StephenSilver]

shipping is going out again tomorrow. delivery is based on where you live. Thanks, they will be there soon

[@StephenSilver]

so awesome!!! Right

[@hervoniabaker4874]

I loved the video and the ending was kinda funny.

[@tai-porto]

"Eveness is the killer of a good design" I heard Aaron Blaise say that many times, but I never fully understood it until now. Or according to what do you exaggerate cretin areas.

[@dreadcannibal3395]

amazing

[@sergiokiwon6688]

Muito bom Very good 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷👍

[@bunnysathome]

wow thats amazing!!

[@elpidiomanuelalvarenga4223]

Awesome!

[@theartyone]

Fascinating! +Stephen Silver Will you be bring some to the Birmingham, UK workshop?

[@StephenSilver]

+theartyone yes I will be

[@theartyone]

+Stephen Silver Excellent! I might buy one then (save on the 10 or 15 dollar postage fee)

[@JodeOnslow]

Sweet, the Birmingham workshop just got that much more awesome!

[@naveengupta1085]

best video i have eve r come acroos,,,gooooooooooooooood jobbbbbbbb currently reading geometry of design

[@erosangelos9422]

Ha Ha Ha ,,your good men )) you got so excited with Golden Ruler that you miss the Hole Glory of Camera recording ))),, but I like the video )) thx

[@thecentralscrutinizerr]

The Golden Ratio is found in a host of medieval Cathedrals throughout Europe.

[@-.PizzaGuy.-]

I'm just watched the first 5 minutes, and I'm already mind blown! :O

[@spenser5001]

mind was just blown

[@mydeen92]

Wow.. I'm impressed...😲 You Know!!!? which place? Which building? are golden ratio point In the world map.

[@claudfenix]

I bought your calipers. For some reason, you cant complete the purchase from a cellphone(android). I just went on the computer.

[@BAwesomeDesign]

Hey Stephen, have you happened upon Myron Barnstone's classes? He went into depth about the Golden Section. I studied with him back in 2010... and he also used calipers extensively.

[@StephenSilver]

+BAwesomeDesign I have heard of him but did not know that. Thanks

[@BAwesomeDesign]

Never bought the calipers from Myron (I think they were about $50). So I'll order a pair of yours. Thanks.

[@danfors1333]

Does the golden ratio apply to perspective as well? For example if you draw an 1-point perspective picture of a road that goes towards the horizon with fences along the sides, would the distance between the fence posts be that of the golden ratio?

[@StephenSilver]

it all depends on your intention of the image, but it works on teeth so it can work on fences

[@peteys2006]

Fantastic! Any chance you'll make a stop in Dublin, Ireland while visiting the UK?!

[@StephenSilver]

+Peter Slattery yes I will be coming to Dublin to do a day workshop while I'm out there. Will be posting soon

[@peteys2006]

Oh fantastic! There'll be a few of us in the animation company I work for who'll definitely be there!

[@wickedlittletongue]

This is blowing my mind, incredibly helpful! I tried buying the callipers online and it wouldn't let me checkout though :(

[@HarryBalsaq]

Even more convinced now that life is a simulation

[@trailtrs1]

There was something wrong with the link. I’m very interested in buying a caliper

[@StephenSilver]

Thanks for that. I fixed the link

[@trailtrs1]

Stephen Silver loved your explanation on these great artists. Fantastic layout. I have been looking at this and fractals for a couple years now. What do you know on the fractals in relationship with the golden ratio and Fibonacci sequence? I first ran into the Fibonacci sequence and golden ratio when teaching martial arts concerning the art of iado which is sword draws used by the Samuri. I stumbled on it because our oldest sword work founded by musashi is very circular and the movement of the blade leaves the scabbard in a circular way like a nautilus shell shape. I then began to notice how much of the art depicting Samurai had nautilus shells or waves (both with the golden ratio/Fibonacci sequence as their basis. I found that teaching my students this technique greatly accelerate their ability to gain Jules of energy at the forward 1/3 of the blade where the cutting mostly takes place. Have you looked into any Japanese artwork with these symbols in it? Thanks.

[@gmcubed]

If I were to simply take a screenshot of these things and scale and rotate it around in photoshop would that work for digital, or is there more to it than that? I don't want to have to pay for software to do that.

[@StephenSilver]

only really for one size. The proportions will get to big when you scale.

[@claudfenix]

Stephen, great tutorial, love your accent (Irish-Bostonia?). I neeeed those calipers. I made my own from cardstock, but it's not the same. I went to the wix.com page you have but it says not taking payments at the moment. Please help. You are incredibly talented, btw

[@deanlake7292]

hand to wrist to elbow is not 1.16. it is obviously greater than 2. but you are on track.

[@sombrosumerta]

What the name of the stuff is it??

[@carlosgomezasensio9057]

I have a doubt, when I draw the eyes and the nose and even the mouth of cartoon, how can I use this rule? The drawing broken.

[@onlyonSiMPLE]

the whole video i was like..ho - ly shit!!

[@MrNintendoN00b]

Hey Stephen, do you sign all of the golden sections you sell? Or only the ones that people ask to be signed?

[@StephenSilver]

all

[@MrNintendoN00b]

Stephen Silver Thanks for the reply dude

[@ArtisteAutodidacte]

Who is the artist at 14:52? Don't understand the name.

[@StephenSilver]

Harald Siepermann

[@ArtisteAutodidacte]

Thank you very much!

[@pickledshoe]

you just earned 10 bucks :D

[@HunnitAcreWoods]

facts... he sold the shit out these calipers lol I would have bought them for $10 just to use because i'm new in drawing... but i'm watching the video now in fascination lol

[@gregkennedy9359]

I've been doing art work for years and no one ever told me this! Thank you

[@wisewomanhealing]

Didn't you self publish the drawing book, S Curves?

[@StephenSilver]

No

[@tspt1434]

Does this really work?...mmmm. But how can I get one??

[@arlaghdoth4434]

Yes I see... *SPIN*

[@rix6831]

*hears intro* Am I watching character design etiquette?

[@boitahaki]

I am skeptical about this

[@StephenSilver]

Ok that's fine. They work for me.

[@HelloKitty-cy9bw]

You shouldn't, this is a method that has been used for most of the art masters :) Just give it a try.

[@StephenSilver]

+Grecia López Bernal it's a method that is. And not just a method that man made up and is being followed. It defines what humans call beauty no matter who the beholder is.

[@karmatwelve134]

I am wondering if humans are really attracted to the golden rule, or is it just the fact that asymmetry is appealing?

[@boitahaki]

Karma 12 symmetry can be really appealing sometimes I think there is a lot of factors that when combined make something appealing I think the golden ratio is just a number and using it to explain the appeal of an image is oversimplifying it I also think there is some wishful thinking to it

[@jirachi398]

woOOOAAAAHHHHHHH

[@TheSimplyJJP]

Ah I see! It is God's cookie cutter!

[@Thebes17]

So im going to be teaching this to high school students. Basically the golden ratio is about proportions? Thats all?

[@StephenSilver]

Slot more but that’s what I’m using it for. Do the research for sure

[@Thebes17]

@@StephenSilver ok. It confuses me because just hearing the way it works goes off the top of my head but seeing you do it seems like the basically the golden ratio

[@TheKrensada]

I can't tell you how much I utterly hated that cartoon, but this lesson was a very good one.

[@hummus9915]

*GASP* NOO NOOO!!!!!!

[@StephenSilver]

WHY?

[@hummus9915]

did you watch til end? :) that is the sound of the realization that the heads were cut off for the entirety of the video.

[@adnenbouguila6518]

WATCH THIS AND YOU WILL UNDERSTAND MORE ABOUT GOLDEN SECTION RATIO kzbin.info/www/bejne/b6SkkIWgisqfbJo

[@ahmedelashery759]

الفيديو بيعرض النسب الذهبية بيلاقيها فين

[@Sleezgaming]

Take a shot everytime he says proportion.

[@jeffclassics]

it's more than just a coincidence.

[@loadingtekno]

Like if you also feel like throwing out all the work you have done so far before knowing about this.

[@marmartota5789]

can I Ask you a question?

[@StephenSilver]

+Marmartota 2001 sure

[@marmartota5789]

marmartota2001.deviantart.com/art/Art-Contest-Link-down-below-695657227 well this is my character designs can you tell me if there any wrong with there model and if I Can fix it? also what do you think about there designs?

[@StephenSilver]

Hi Sorry, I thought it was an Art Talk question, unfortunately I can't go through explaining about character designs here. If you like and are interested in getting some solid feedback, please visit here: www.silvertoons.com/1on1-mentorship

[@marmartota5789]

well I Also what video have animation tutorials? since you worked in animations?

[@Noldy__]

"We are unable to accept online payments. Please contact us to complete your purchase" :(

[@StephenSilver]

+Noldy I'm sorry what are you referring too. The website?

[@Noldy__]

Yes, When I was trying to buy the device

[@StephenSilver]

hmm not sure. i'm still getting orders

[@OthonvonSalza]

how is this tool called???

[@StephenSilver]

+Othon von Salza golden ratio Calipers

[@ericshockey2078]

Look up Donald duck in Mathamagicland on KZbin. You will find it interesting. Hope you like it.

[@StephenSilver]

Love that one

[@leanneh.3274]

Hebrews 3:4; Psalms 139:14-16 JW.org

[@ChristosRym]

LOL nooo noooo. (Camera is imperfect)

[@geraldferreira9679]

might need to proportion your camera bro....

[@MRnoob_MRnoob]

its not exact or perfect, its ALMOST exact and perfect, and many times its just feels like you can put it on every thing and just turn it if its not "perfect"

[@DiabloEscobar84]

”Proposition”

[@phyll9599]

It's a legit myth. Humans like to see patterns in things. www.fastcodesign.com/3044877/the-golden-ratio-designs-biggest-myth The rule of thirds kind of holds up, though.

[@Well_possibly]

Measure various car models, other products, and packaging for the Golden Ratio. Then tell us why companies would spend the time and money on it if it wasn't appealing to the eye : )

[@Lilliathi]

Because they believe the same myth.

[@Well_possibly]

Meh, this site debunks the debunking. Best thing to do is to measure art, architecture, etc. yourself. www.goldennumber.net/golden-ratio-myth/

[@Lilliathi]

That site's conclusion is very inconclusive. Yes, some painters used it. Yes, there are some examples of it in nature. Does that mean it's very important? Not really. There are tonnes of other mathematical formula's that exist in nature, this one is only special because a bunch of ancient artists believed the hype and created some great works using it. But nothing points to their works being better for it. Especially when it comes to faces, it's mostly bunk, and when it comes to composition, the rule of 3rds works better. This guy is just trying to sell you his fancy measuring stick.