How to use the iPhone 12 Pro Max for astrophotography. A full tutorial.

[@ShayneMostyn]

Thanks for watching folks. I really enjoyed making this one.

[@goldenheart3029]

Now i see why they alwayś recommending #haxtechie01 on IG you are the main boss thanks for the successful Unlock

[@ShayneMostyn]

MAFIA CHEATNINJA I have been testing it and to be honest, it’s really hit and miss. I have only been able to capture one reasonable image out of it. I will do some more, but it’s not looking good. I tested night cap app as well and it takes some good shots. So far the camera app is the best. Looking forward to seeing what RAW will do.

[@ShayneMostyn]

MAFIA CHEATNINJA yes a couple of people have suggested it and after seeing the results I figured it needs an update. You guys wouldn’t be suggesting it if you didn’t think it was worthwhile. 👍👍

[@gregerianne3880]

Great video! Thanks so much.

[@RalphMayhewPhotography]

Well done on the success of this video and the channel mate. So stoked for you!

[@marcelchaloupka]

IPhone 12 max, check. tripod, check. Bike packed, check = awesome weekend on the way. Full moon 😭

[@ShayneMostyn]

Noooooooo 🤣🤣🤣

[@fencepost200]

I've always enjoyed talking pictures with my smartphone and just recently discovered astrophotography. I came across your YT channel because of my interest in astrophotography and subbed immediately. I really enjoy your subject material. Just bought the iPhone 12 pro max so this video couldn't be more timely for me. Thanks for showing us how to use our smartphones to take some incredible night time sky pictures!

[@ShayneMostyn]

Thanks so much, you will enjoy it, it’s pretty addictive 😉

[@seanleighty166]

Very, very helpful! I’ve had my phone for 3 months, and never knew it could do this. Great tutorial. Can’t wait to try it!

[@ShayneMostyn]

Glad it helped!

[@WillNewcomb]

By the time I get skies clear enough for star photography, I'll have to re-visit Shayne's videos to remind me what I should have learned first-time around haha!!!

[@elnietodeanadelia]

Came across your channel by chance. Glad I did. Thanks for the tutorials, brother. Best wishes from the other side of the world!

[@ShayneMostyn]

Thanks so much for watching. Welcome aboard!

[@AirKhanFPV]

nightmode with tele is not real tele. its a 2,5x digital zoom from the wide angle lens i dont know why apple didnt allow to use the tele cam natively with nightmode i hope they release an update soon

[@godless8846]

I just got my Pro Max yesterday and the reason I bought that is because I really want to try Astrophotography. I just accidentally see this video and this is the best tutorial I’ve ever watched. I will follow all your tips, sir. Thank you very much ❤️❤️❤️.

[@ShayneMostyn]

Thanks so much for watching. Welcome aboard!

[@Ryan-ef1dm]

I have the 12 pro and I’m excited to test this out. Cannot believe a mobile phone can take such a picture 🔥

[@jeffreyjudd8369]

Shayne, thank you so much for producing these videos! I am a yank from International Falls, Minnesota U.S.A. Even though I live on the opposite side of the world from you I was in your neck of the woods at one point in my life. I was a US Navy helicopter aircrewman in my youth and spent a week in Geelong in 1976 when the ship we were stationed on (USS Barbey) made a visit. Not only is Australia a beautiful country, but the people were absolutely amazing! Thanks again, I have a 12 pro max and am just learning it.

[@ShayneMostyn]

Thanks for watching mate. I spent some time working over there in Wisconsin and also time near Rochester when I was working in the Dairy industry a few years ago. Thanks for watching mate, Im glad you get something out of these videos.

[@WillNewcomb]

Always good to get a refresher! Must have watched this a few times!

[@yoyomauricio]

Getting my IPhone 12 pro max today. Awesome video. Subscribed 🙌🏼🤗🙏🤗🙏🤗

[@ShayneMostyn]

Thanks so much for watching. Welcome aboard!

[@informaniako]

I was eagerly waiting for your review and test with the iPhone 12PM :) thank you for your review and as always, keep up the very interesting videos.

[@ShayneMostyn]

Thanks mate

[@troyando]

Yes! Thank you for this tutorial. Recently purchased the 12 Pro Max and have been interested in astro photography. Can’t wait to try it out!

[@ShayneMostyn]

Glad it was helpful!

[@TechieConnoisseur]

Try Apple ProRAW too! It’s on the 14.3 beta and it’s such a huge difference

[@ShayneMostyn]

Thats the plan mate

[@necromancexiii]

Its lovely to see the galactic core. Living in the city, its tough to even spot the stars. Keep it up my good man. Cheers

[@ShayneMostyn]

Much appreciated

[@globetrotter1573]

That's a really great video. Thankyou for a wonderful tutorial & wishing you Million subs ahead !!!

[@ShayneMostyn]

Many many thanks mate

[@MaryannHazel]

Awesome! Thanks for doing trying this out on the 12 Pro Max. I'm pretty stoked about the video quality, so now I need to try it out at night. Well done!

[@ShayneMostyn]

Glad I could help! Enjoy!

[@figastrophoto]

I take astrophotos on my iPhone 5s but i use an app called night cap that allows you to take much longer exposures like 1 minute or more, and that’s freaking amazing!

[@ShayneMostyn]

Absolutely. I’ve reviewed and done many tutorials for night cap, it’s a great app for any iPhone prior to the 11.

[@nosmoking4781]

@@ShayneMostyn Hey Shayne, Is night cap also useful on the 12 Pro? I’m liking the idea of longer than 30 sec exposures. Would Pro RAW still work? DOn‘t see why not but just asking. Regards from Switzerland :-)

[@MrGenji24]

OMG!!! I never thought my iPhone 12 Pro Max was capable to take photos like that!!! 😱😱🤩🤩 I’m totally subscribing and visiting your website too!!! Best KZbin channel ever!!! 😍 Cheers from Costa Rica!!!! 🇨🇷

[@ShayneMostyn]

Thanks so much for watching. Welcome aboard!

[@Awesome-si5oz]

I’m exited for 13 series

[@dannyliu1]

First KZbin comment in a long while! Love your channel! I live in Melbourne :)

[@ShayneMostyn]

Thanks mate. You guys have had a rough year.

[@imvau3819]

Never subscribed any other channel so soon. Great content mate. Thanks for this. I will definitely try this on my 12 pro max which I got today. Great content.

[@ShayneMostyn]

Thanks mate, very kind of you!

[@linedancer111]

Just received my iPhone 12pro max so thanks for that, will give it a go , light pollution not to good here in UK, so will need to find the right spot!

[@ShayneMostyn]

Cheers mate, thanks for watching :)

[@iron_recluse]

Thanks for taking the time to make this video- these are amazing photos.

[@ShayneMostyn]

You’re welcome, glad you enjoyed it.

[@joshbonner9409]

Yes! The bigger sensor makes a difference

[@ShayneMostyn]

I agree

[@joshbonner9409]

@@ShayneMostyn next year the camera sensor on the max should be bigger again

[@figzastro-photography]

Thank you for this video. I know it’s kinda old but I just found it. I have a 13pro max and I was at a dark area with my telescope and I wanted to take a picture of the Milky Way and I tried using my phone. I didn’t know that you can change the 3 sec to 10 or to 30 if it was on a tripod. Thank you.

[@Meagain921]

Thanks Shane. Another good vid. I’ve just upped to the 12 max from the 11. Usually use a top end Nikon but am finding that these new Apple cameras have great potential. Most often process good shots on computer in Photoshop with Topaz and Nik for noise and sharpen. I greatly appreciate your tips. Am a bit frustrated as I live in the hills well in the hinterland of Byron. Hard to find flat ground. Much appreciated.

[@ShayneMostyn]

Thanks for watching mate. You can absolutely still get astro photos up there (I used to live at Paradise Point northern GC) you will just need to wait until April for the galactic core.

[@mradford10]

Awesome video! Just received my iPhone 12 Pro Max and can’t wait to get outside with it. Subscribed 👍

[@ShayneMostyn]

Thanks so much for watching. Welcome aboard!

[@dmcni4228]

Another great video...Mondays and Fridays cant come soon enough. I wasn’t expecting you to purchase the 12 Pro Max, to see you testing it out was a nice surprise. I cant wait to get using mine at night and seeing what I can achieve. Keep up the great work 👍🏻

[@ShayneMostyn]

Thanks mate, I appreciate the kind words.

[@gundamaction1201]

Excellent video sir. I enjoy watching your videos as well. You explained everything really well!

[@ShayneMostyn]

Thanks mate

[@johnaish4987]

This video was perfect.. all the information I was hoping you’d put in was there and some. Thank you 🙏🏼

[@ShayneMostyn]

Excellent! Thanks mate

[@JamesWilson234]

Wow amazing! Didn’t even know my Mac could do 30s. Can’t am wait to give this a go

[@ShayneMostyn]

Have fun!

[@paulkennedycreativemedia]

Just upgraded my phone from a iPhone 7plus to a 12 Pro. Looking forward to shooting some low light images. New subscriber.

[@ShayneMostyn]

Thanks so much for watching. Welcome aboard!

[@stelkr]

Can't wait till you do the same vid with an Apple ProRAW file! Keep up the good work!

[@ShayneMostyn]

That's the plan!

[@julianpalm6520]

Can you send me a link to the big tripod? I only found the little one in your description. Very good videos, only the best regards from Germany.

[@ShayneMostyn]

Thanks mate. It’s in the description, it’s the manfrotto one 👍

[@cal_mi_abu]

Owing a 12 pro max just 2 days ago,,, wondered,, love from India 🇮🇳 kerala , Kochi

[@ShayneMostyn]

Cheers mate, thanks for watching :)

[@utsavratti]

Great video, amazing to see that this can be done with a mobile phone. I live in NYC so a bit difficult to escape the light pollution but looking forward to trying this out when traveling is possible again.

[@ShayneMostyn]

Cheers mate, thanks for watching :)

[@willowmcgregor2529]

Great channel Shayne really enjoyed the video.

[@ShayneMostyn]

Glad to hear it!

[@LPCliftonMusic]

I’ve been able to get some really decent shots of the night sky just holding my 12 Pro Max in my hand. The stabilizing is really quite impressive.

[@ShayneMostyn]

It certainly is, thanks for watching

[@lancealbon46]

Thanks mate! I’m in New Zealand and want to ride my Africa Twin out to the Wairarapa Lake where the light pollution is almost zero and try catching some shots like these with my new iPhone 12 Pro Max. Thanks for sharing.

[@ShayneMostyn]

Nice! I would take my Tiger out to do the same, but would end up with a kangaroo on my lap so I take my car out at night instead. Thanks for watching mate. Love NZ mate. I miss it.

[@TheRobkob]

What tripod do you use and where can I get one?... looks like a good quality

[@ShayneMostyn]

The one Im using in the video is a manfrotto tripod. Link in description of video.

[@aleksandercross5936]

Блин ну вам реально повезло жить на юге еще и в таком темном месте)

[@ShayneMostyn]

It has its pros and cons mate. Very isolated here.

[@commandosolo_193]

the southern cross is visible from our deep sky site in the middle of the everglades in Florida. We only see the top and the line, but can't see the stars below the cross. In key west you can make it out clear as day, well at night. That's it for the southern cross.

[@ShayneMostyn]

Thanks mate, I didn’t know that!

[@DimosDimaresis]

I'm gonna do it in a few weeks mate. I've bought the device last year but couldn't go to the location I wanted.

[@ShayneMostyn]

Good luck mate

[@jmackenzie2131]

Absolutely phenomenal! You are a rockstar! I’m so very happy I chanced by your video and have subscribed! Thank you so very much!

[@ShayneMostyn]

Thanks mate, I really appreciate that. Very kind of you.

[@donnataylor8217]

Thanks so much. You are an awesome teacher! 🇨🇦😊

[@ShayneMostyn]

You are so welcome!

[@CessoEilMare]

You are awesome! The details that you go into are very helpful, especially the bit about achieving 30 seconds shutter speed by attaching the iPhone 12 pro max to a tripod. Apple doesn't tell you that it's iPhone recognizes and adapts itself when affixed to a tripod. For amateurs like me, I would never have known that. Just subscribed.

[@ShayneMostyn]

You're very welcome!

[@leonaldobrum]

The one with the truck was amazing

[@ShayneMostyn]

Thanks mate

[@RalphMayhewPhotography]

Gold mate. Well done and thank for all the tips!!

[@ShayneMostyn]

Legend!

[@getnautical9579]

Just found your channel. So glad I did. From tutorial, music, everything was spot on to what I was looking for. Now just waiting for my 12 pro to come in. Ordering a tripod mount today so I can shoot at night right off the rip

[@ShayneMostyn]

Thanks so much for watching. Welcome aboard!

[@tomp9002]

Mann I'm glad I waited to see what samsung was gunna be launching for the s21 series. Quite a lot better camera on the s21 ultra, you should watch Shayne's latest video!

[@martywilson9953]

Thanks for the tutorial!! I’ve got some amazing pics in my 12 pro max now!!! 🙃🙃

[@ShayneMostyn]

Happy to help!

[@LeeGreenldgphotos]

Love your videos, thanks for sharing and helping improve my skills!

[@ShayneMostyn]

Glad you like them! Thanks for watching mate.

[@86LukeM]

Borrego in California is a place I visit. It’s what’s known as a Dark City. It’s a small town surrounded by mountains.

[@ShayneMostyn]

Sounds great mate

[@86LukeM]

@@ShayneMostyn oh it is. Can almost see the Milky Way with the naked eye. I did watch this to see any tips. I did figure light needed to be used to amplify the night mode. It wasn’t until I looked at my picture through my moon room with light from my radio. I saw the orange gas cloud was something I saw. Though it was noise or issues with the camera. I do plan to try and go out there, again. Only with telescopes. It’s a crazy place. By day has sculptures and other things. But night time can see things faintly. One being the Orion Nebula. Can barely see it. The town is a magnet for astronomy.

[@aleksiz_]

Just switched from s20 ultra to 12pro max and this is by far the feature I’ll miss the most. I take many astro photos and the Samsung did an absolutely amazing job. I even stopped taking my DSLR because the phone did just as a good oh a job. My new iPhone doesn’t even get close to that sadly

[@ShayneMostyn]

Im not sure that any manufacturer makes the "perfect phone" at this stage. I really like the S20 camera capabilities, but not the actual phone and the bloatware that comes with Samsungs. I really like the Pixel phone and night camera, but the video is below par. If Apple had full manual control on its camera, it would be the closest thing to perfect I think.

[@benlister74]

Just found your channel while researching iPhone 12 Pro Max, immediate sub 👍 looks like my mirrorless and SLR will be collecting more dust now! The computational power of mobile just makes conventional photography a chore to 90% of people. Although still good to understand the power of editing and making the photo your own. Keep up the great work 📸😀

[@ShayneMostyn]

Thanks mate, I appreciate it.

[@Ak-xq6gb]

Can you do this but with the comparison between 12 pro and 12 pro max with the ProRaw? Thanks

[@ShayneMostyn]

Thats a great idea thanks for sharing!

[@laangel3795]

Your videos are so calm and relaxing ☺

[@ShayneMostyn]

Glad you like them!

[@RolandKoller90]

That is incredible, I need to get a tiny tripod now haha

[@ShayneMostyn]

Cheers mate, thanks for watching :)

[@Clay00Q]

looking forward to see the differences between 12pro & 12promax in astrophotography

[@ShayneMostyn]

Me too!

[@argypan6879]

@@ShayneMostyn can you do a full comparison?

[@Clay00Q]

@@ShayneMostyn thank you for your hardwork, sir!

[@doak1851]

I certainly appreciate this tutorial. It was very informative. Cheers

[@ShayneMostyn]

Glad it was helpful!

[@doak1851]

@@ShayneMostyn Just ordered the items through your link. I look forward to trying them out.

[@lucasalberts]

Is that a St Louis Cardinals hat? Awesome!!

[@ShayneMostyn]

Certainly is.

[@emanueleromeo5299]

Can you show us how to take good pictures of the moon please? Amazing video btw 😍

[@ShayneMostyn]

I have just finished one. Its due to go live next week on Friday. :)

[@BlackopsUSN]

How does lower aperture affect night time photography? How much better is f1.7 vs f1.8? For low light You gotta put this put against the 4a and pixel 5 Dope videos bro! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@ShayneMostyn]

1.7 would, in theory, let in more light. On a sensor this size, I doubt we would notice any difference though. Stay tuned for the comparison video. Its not far away.

[@fanforever9916]

Thank you so much brother. You are a good teacher 🤜🤛

[@borgel1545]

Is it possible to set the time in night mode to 30sec. on the normal 12 pro too? For me, the max is too big this is the reason why I wouldn’t buy one..

[@ShayneMostyn]

Night mode is the same for the 12 👍👍

[@hangoverjogger]

Did you edit it in pro raw or jpeg? would be interesting to see the difference in quality between these modes. And yes pixel5 comparison would be great to watch next. Thanks a lot for your videos! Southern cross guide was great too!

[@ShayneMostyn]

Just the Jpeg at the moment. Once everybody has access to the Pro RAW I will do another one. Pixel vs 12 pro max is on the way also. Thanks for watching mate.

[@belugathecat9851]

oh my god thank you i got the photo of the galaxy perfectly

[@ShayneMostyn]

Cheers mate, thanks for watching :)

[@jc00586]

I’m in, you explain everything good and real, no matter what you say the truth about any cellphone 📱 and that’s what wee looking for, thanks 🙏🔥👍

[@ShayneMostyn]

Thanks mate, I appreciate it. I always try and tell it as it is.

[@ashveermohadeo2921]

Someone should really create an app for Astro for iPhone.

[@superdutyzack]

NightCap, Shayne has a ton of videos of the app. I also have some night time lapse videos using Night cap on my XS Max which is an older phone and I still get really decent pictures.

[@ShayneMostyn]

I suspect Cortex Cam works better with some light pollution. I have used it a few times where I am without any real success. I have a video coming out soon comparing Cortex, Night cap and the camera app. Im hoping to get into town in the next couple of weeks to try is when there is more ambient light. In pitch black conditions, I get one photo in mayb 15 that will actually focus.

[@superdutyzack]

@@Mistygio I’ve used Cortex a long time ago but got rid of it because it wasn’t great. I’ll give it another shot now that its been updated.

[@superdutyzack]

@@Mistygio I just used cortex cam for some astrophotography and the user interface isn’t something I’d like to use. The ability to choose how many frames are in the picture is neat but doesn’t work with the stars because you get star trails too easily. I did do some pictures while the sun was still open and when I had it set for 99 frames I got a very focused picture and no noise so maybe use cortex for well lit pictures and use a tripod. For astrophotography I’d stick with NightCap and if you have the new iPhone use the main camera as its very good.

[@cervantessolim]

Neural cam

[@mamadytraore5175]

WOW! These photos are impressive

[@ShayneMostyn]

Cheers mate, thanks for watching :)

[@Достое́вская-з7ж]

You're awesome! And I love your accent 😍

[@ShayneMostyn]

Cheers mate, thanks for watching :)

[@stevewalker9888]

Dude. I just got my 12 pro max. And a dji om4 ( yeh spoilt old man ) 🤣. I never thought of Astro photography with a phone, new subscriber to the channel , totally amazed at what you just showed me. 😮. It’s bloody freezing in the uk . Many thanks for sharing 👍 stay safe

[@ShayneMostyn]

Thats a great combo! The video on the 12pro max is just amazing, you will get some great results I think. Enjoy mate, stay warm!

[@Gauravmsr20]

Awesome tutorial, love the soothing background music as well....

[@ShayneMostyn]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@WelcomeTooo]

I’m a new subscriber...so glad I found this channel ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

[@ShayneMostyn]

Thanks so much for watching. Welcome aboard!

[@Lyshie7]

wow so cool! i was wondering if the app skyview lite could also show us the position of the stars??

[@ShayneMostyn]

Thanks! skyview will show you where planets and stars are, but not AR for composing photos. Its a good app for telescope work I think.

[@JesseNewberry]

You reckon a slight blur would eliminate the rest of the artifacts without robbing the rest of the photo of clarity?

[@ShayneMostyn]

It may be worth a try, but I have found the AI learning in this phone actually gets these shots looking great over time.

[@stitchlee311]

Do try out the ProRaw when it gets released!

[@ShayneMostyn]

I will be

[@qtben17]

@@ShayneMostyn cant wait for u to show what proraw can do for astro

[@toblessfume5789]

Is there a custom body kit on that bmw it looks so sick

[@ShayneMostyn]

Nah mate, its stock standard. Its a bmw gts.

[@psahd92]

I love taking astrophotography shots. Which phone would you suggest for that? Pixel 5 or iPhone 12 pro max?

[@ShayneMostyn]

If astrophotography is your main concern, the pixel is going to be better.

[@gaminggod4646]

Looking forward for 12 pro max Vs Pixel 5a astrophotography, that would be perfect competition 💯

[@ShayneMostyn]

Its coming up!

[@paulwall5851]

Is that photo editor on all iPhones exact same one you’re using or do you have to download it

[@ShayneMostyn]

The iPhone has an editor in it, I also use Adobe Lightroom and Snapseed

[@lardi_g]

Great tutorial! Thanks 🙏🏻 that helps a lot!

[@ShayneMostyn]

Cheers Gabi, thanks for watching :)

[@madwolf2737]

Thank you very much Shayne. You are doing an amazing job. I just love all your videos 🦋

[@ShayneMostyn]

You are so welcome! Thanks for watching :)

[@jteakin2899]

Nice STL Cardinals hat!

[@ShayneMostyn]

Cheers mate, thanks for watching :)

[@Robert-Bishop]

Great video. I came over from Ralph Mayhew's channel. Really refreshing to see a photography channel dedicated to mobile photography - I'm subbed! 😊

[@ShayneMostyn]

Thanks so much for watching. Welcome aboard! I checked out your channel, youre doing well mate. Youre a natural on camera and your channel artwork is on point. Looking forward to seeing you grow!

[@hrithik4459]

What is the light source int the image at the bottom

[@mikedimimd]

Is there a way to take several short exposures and layer them to get a better quality image?

[@ShayneMostyn]

There are a few ways to do it, its a video I have planned for when the Milky Way season returns. It needs to be done on a computer though.

[@randevjude3480]

I heard that the xiaomi mi 11 ultra is now besting even the Huawei p40 pro plus in photography. Maybe shayne could try that phones astral mode out

[@ShayneMostyn]

Not sure mate, they are not released here yet.

[@juliojara6919]

Thanks!! Pls timelapse nightmode

[@ShayneMostyn]

Soon!

[@Ovni-J]

Hi mate thanks for doing all the videos Just wondered when the update is coming out in order to get the pro raw I don't have it on my phone and there is no update available. Thanks

[@ShayneMostyn]

There is no official release date yet. Most speculators say it will be this month though.

[@Ovni-J]

@@ShayneMostyn Thanks mate, appreciate it 👍

[@mitchtheh4x0r]

This iPhone is legit

[@superdutyzack]

Hey Shayne, have you tried the Night TimeLapse yet? How does that do?

[@ShayneMostyn]

Not yet mate, I was planning on it tonight but its clouded over. Soon... ;)

[@MrLegendL2118]

What is a good program besides Lightroom that I would just be able to buy and not have to pay a monthly subscription for?

[@ShayneMostyn]

Snapseed. Its great!

[@pawstech7954]

Will the iPhone 13 pro max get an Astro photography mode?

[@ShayneMostyn]

Not sure, they may skip a few and only have it on the iphone 15 pro super max. We wont know until its released in March next year ;)

[@A.D.D.O.C.D.T]

Subbed ,that was epic ! Blew my mind when I saw the shot it took. I just got Pro Max and am going to try this once the video finishes. Thank you so much mate ,excellent video. 🙏🤙🇦🇺💪

[@ShayneMostyn]

Excellent! Glad you got something out of it mate.Thanks for watching.

[@BOWLINGPHREEK]

Hi Shayne, I was wondering if you can help me out. I'm stuck in deciding which phone to buy its between the iPhone 12 MP or the Samsung S21 Ultra, which one would you choose if you had to pick one :) btw, I love your videos Mate.

[@ShayneMostyn]

It will depend on how many Mac products you have. I have found getting images off my S21U a pain with my mac gear. The camera is better on the S21U, but photography apps are seriously lacking on the Android platform. Things like long exposure are just not near the level of the iPhone. However, If I were you, I would wait another month. By then, I suspect the iPhone 13 series will be launched.

[@ijansz]

Great tutorial

[@ShayneMostyn]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@rodwaski]

Thanks for the video , just got the pro max but didn’t think of it for astrophotography. You showed a small tripod can you link it, I can’t find it in the comments. I’m in Australia too. Thanks

[@ShayneMostyn]

Gday Rod, its down there in the description. I sent you a link on FB mate.

[@rodwaski]

@@ShayneMostyn thanks just ordering it now , Australian stock from Teds.

[@juliojara6919]

English is not my native language. Is there a real difference with the 12pro? Your videos are great, I don't miss them

[@ShayneMostyn]

Not a big difference