How to, Which Hoya and Trellis + A Really Cool Hack 😎

[@Aquamarine.Aubrey]

I absolutely love the twine on the trellis idea! Never even thought about that! Genius! 🎉

[@soberplantguy]

"Genius" might be overstating it, but I accept it (humbly, of course) 😁

[@lorettastyles5523]

It is totally impossible to get distracted watching your videos 😊. Funny and informative 💕

[@soberplantguy]

Ah, thank you!

[@hanstera_deliciosa]

I am usually more distracted from Dave’s videos by Dave himself than anything else 😂

[@derekloveshorror]

@@hanstera_deliciosathe headwear is magnificent. The allusions are delicious, what is not to like.

[@hanstera_deliciosa]

@ 💚

[@soberplantguy]

@@hanstera_deliciosa I'm not sure what this means, but I laughed. Well, smiled a little bit anyway. It's very early after all....

[@derekloveshorror]

Can I just say, your passion is enviable. I love the way you articulate this for people who are beginners. I think your knowledge blows away the average person for sure! Great video…!

[@soberplantguy]

Thans, Derek! Glad you're wife is forcing you to watch my above average videos 😉

[@paxleidig5327]

I laughed so hard at the " monkey humping a football" that my keyboard went haywire!

[@soberplantguy]

Even the clean version is funny 🤓

[@hanstera_deliciosa]

Simmer down guys.

[@deeb2000]

That went right over my head!

[@hanstera_deliciosa]

@@deeb2000 same. I’m going to assume that’s a good thing 😆

[@heatherstephens9295]

@@deeb2000me too - I thought I misheard 😂😂😂

[@mn4169]

This was a great video, you talk slowly and clearly. Great tips too. Today am I watching with a terrible cold, so you saved my day. Evertything plant is so expensive in Sweden, I maintain my plants on a budget of basically O dollars, so I tend to take what I have, and work with that. Anyways, I am thinking about a cone shape net trellis with smaller holes. Project to the Spring. Will work out the size and so on. Well, have a lovely day Dave, keep safe❤

[@soberplantguy]

Good for you! I try to do the same. Thrift everything that I can, and only spend plant money that I have made from plant sales (or, now, KZbin and so on). Your idea is a great one, and no doubt that's going to work very, very well 😊

[@soberplantguy]

Oh, gosh. And feel better!

[@mn4169]

​@@soberplantguy Tusen tack Dave

[@hnelson5609]

Your polynura😮😮 I must find one. Thank you so much for this video. It boggles my mind how little I knew. I've been eyeballing baskets with hoop shaped handles at thrift stores for my meager collection of 3. So much fun learning from you. Beautiful plants, love that green color.

[@soberplantguy]

Wayyyy smarter to start with a few Hoya rather than several dozen, which is common. You'll actually have time to learn how to grow these well 😁 I don't know why that plant never hit me on video, even the really large, impressive ones. In person, gorgeous. I love it!!

[@neerajadamarla929]

I never get bored watching your videos they are very informative. Thank you looking forward to your next video.

[@soberplantguy]

Thank you so much, and I'm glad you enjoy all my really basic videos 😊

[@badAngi]

I love the string idea, I'll be trying that soon.

[@soberplantguy]

I'm sure that there are lots of cool mods, but there's no denying that is probably the easiest one 😁

[@VioletGraces]

Thank you Dave!! 💙

[@soberplantguy]

Hey, you bet!

[@cizerz13]

Super smart hacks I will use for sure! Thank you for sharing! Actually having a friend over this week so we can make your cage trellises. My order of 16 gauge rabbit fencing just came in from home depot. Should be quite the trellis party. Got 50 feet! 🤣🤣🤣 Some good laughs in your video tonight! 😅 Stay awesome! 💜🌿😁

[@soberplantguy]

This is literally the only kind of party I would go to (or get invited to) 🤣 Have fun!

[@beantreenify]

I’ve had 2 Hoya multifloras from the same company. They both died. Could’ve been the fungus gnat infested soil. Any tips?

[@paxleidig5327]

@@beantreenify hydrogen peroxide?

[@soberplantguy]

Even with their tiny root system, fungus gnats probably aren't the culprit. But, that tell me that they possibly came packed in a dense, wet soil? The larger one on video came that way to me, and it was an immediate rescue operation .... Nothing left of the roots but muck.

[@pennyrockysmomma4445]

I just found your channel, and was shocked (and happily surprised) when you said you were in Iowa City!!!!! Native Iowan here, now living in Kansas. I worked at the U for quite a few years, and lived in Cedar, Muscatine, and Lynn counties. I lived there for 58 years until eight years ago and I moved to Kansas! And I definitely subscribed! You have Hoyas I have never heard of. My mom was a plant guru back in the 70’s when the house plant craze got started, and through the 80’s and I used to grow African Violets, until I moved here.

[@soberplantguy]

Hey, hey, fellow (former) Iowan! There are a few of us on this channel 🤩 I haven’t tried African Violets yet. They seem lovely.

[@brittneyswales47]

Thank you for another super helpful video! Do you sell Hoyas on a website?

[@hanstera_deliciosa]

His plants are freaking pristine!

[@derekloveshorror]

@@hanstera_deliciosaI am also shocked, my wife struggles with the Hoyas. All these magical plants living their best lives!!! Great work Dave!

[@paxleidig5327]

@@brittneyswales47 True Dat! I've bought several. 🤗🤗🤗

[@soberplantguy]

Thank you, Brittney! I do sell Hoya, but I'm on a bit of a hiatus until very early next year, as the new stock grows up strong (we hope 😆)

[@soberplantguy]

@@hanstera_deliciosa Thank you, H !

[@lindacambria5413]

Hi Dave! Thank you! I recently purchased a Sarawak one leaf cutting. Just put out a new growth point. I’ve been wondering how best to grow it. This video is a must for me for my growing collection of Hoyas! 😀. Will definitely save this one to rewatch.

[@soberplantguy]

I guess timing really is everything! Glad you enjoyed it--and what a plant you have. I bought mine as a two leaf cutting very early summer 😊

[@lindacambria5413]

@ I’m so excited to watch it grow! I have the Akkerbar greenhouse for my new Hoyas. They love it!

[@soberplantguy]

@@lindacambria5413 Nice!

[@Wubblyt]

Counterclockwise is geographical 😂🤣 I don’t mind the crazy runners… can always wrap them around something… Unless its like Hoya Kerrii…. Or something finicky that will kill off the runner as soon as it is touched (Hoya Elliptica, Hoya Rintzii Borneo: I am looking at you)

[@soberplantguy]

I currently have an elliptical doing splendidly. Let's not jinx it, please?

[@Wubblyt]

@ Haha, oh mine grows quite well… and flowers… as long as I let it do whatever it wants 😅. Maybe you have a different clone or just one with a different temperament

[@soberplantguy]

@@Wubblyt An "elliptical" 🤣😂🤣

[@Wubblyt]

@@soberplantguy oh goodness 😅😂🤣 “Kill off the runner” 😅😂🤣 Thank you for the clarification If its not about plants…. It doesn’t take up the first place in my brain 😉

[@heatherstephens9295]

O WOW your Sarawak looks amazing. This was my first “rare” plant, mine is still small but I just love them so much 😍 Thanks Dave I really appreciate this video 👍👍👍

[@soberplantguy]

Gorgeous plant, and clearly moving up in the rankings--and FAST

[@fatimagibsonhenley2281]

I'm sooooooo excited for all the new varieties at Lowe's, I wasn't planning on going out, but after seeing what Lowe's has, I can't resist. Thank Ashley 😊

[@soberplantguy]

I'll assume this one was for Ashley's video--but nonetheless, I hope you find some cool plants on your journey!

[@MikeCoger-y1w]

First, I want to say thank you. I have been learning a lot from your KZbin videos. I am a brand-new beginner here. I have gotten a few from the Big Stores and I am really enjoying the hunting part.

[@soberplantguy]

That’s great! Glad you’re enjoying them, and happy hunting!

[@mamakimsplants]

I love the twine hack such a clever idea, it is perfect for the crassipetiolata and I’m gonna do it this weekend. Thank you for this!

[@soberplantguy]

There goes your weekend--well, two minutes of it anyway 😁

[@deeb2000]

Dave you're hoyas are gorgeous! They're fat and healthy looking. And that latifolia, wow! I've been holding off replacing my round hoop trellises so I will be ordering some horse shoe type today. I have my Aldrichii between 2 round trellises and the leaves are getting squished as well as some others. Aldrichii, another underrated hoya. Thanks for sharing and the tip with the string. It makes sense👍🏽. Look forward to your next! Dee, NY

[@soberplantguy]

Hi, Dee! Yes, such a gorgeous Hoya (and not one person has ever inquired about buying it 🤣) Happy to say that all the leaves inside the trellis are, somehow, fine. Happy trellising over in Big Time NY...!

[@deeb2000]

Wonder why Aldrichii is underrated. It's an attractive hoya and easy care. 🤷‍♂️ I live in the suburbs of NY, Long Island or as some pronounce, longuyland. I love visiting the city it's s totally different culture. I'm a foodie and loved visiting different ethnic cuisine. Now there's so many new skyscrapers and structures I hear could be quitte overwhelming. Its been 13 years since visiting.

[@soberplantguy]

@@deeb2000 Oh, that's right! You told me bout longuyland before 😆 As for aldrichii, I assume that people just haven't caught up to our elevated taste..... 🤣

[@deemari577]

​@@soberplantguy Lol!

[@kathrynrobinson670]

Loved the hack with the jute twine. I have many Hoyas on the bamboo arch and always wonder what to do with the multiple vines.

[@soberplantguy]

Someone fancier could probably also do a cross-stitch, too. But, yes, this is so easy and effective!

[@Wubblyt]

ok, comment no.2 I like your hack 😊 I usually prefer to use 2 of those bamboo horseshoe trelisses, mainly for stability… I tend to start juggling with plants when I move them and there is only one trellis 😅 And those comments on Hoya Crassipetiolata vining 😂🤣 Also really appreciated how complete this video was… including examples of what worked and what didn’t work for you.🌱

[@soberplantguy]

Agreed. Ultimately two trellises = better than one. As fro the crassi, what a naughty little monster 😆

[@Wubblyt]

@@soberplantguy Hoya Carrii, Hoya Desvoeuxensis and Hoya Caudata Sumatra also love to wrap around things when you look away for a second.. suddenly out of nowhere theres a vine taking over whatever it can find.. makes me happy though, don’t have to worry about vigorous growers

[@darrylvergonet719]

I enjoyed your video and the hacks. I am fairly new at growing Hoyas but have 7 varieties, 6 from last summer and a crimson queen that I have had for at least 30 years (or maybe more. She is trellised and blooms frequently. I don't have any trellises for the others yet and they are vining all over and trying to climb up my curtains and windows. I am learning more about them all the time and really enjoy my small collection. I am thinking I would like one with large leaves and wonder if you have a suggestion for one that would be easy to start with. Thanks again for the helpful video!

[@soberplantguy]

Thank you! This summer I was telling my friend Kim and fantastic Hoya grower (Crazy Plant Gal) that whenever someone says "I have a decades old Hoya but I don't know what it is"--it's a carnosa. *Every single time* 😆 As far as large leaves, easy, grow fast, and don't cost a fortune: can't beat that latifolia (Sarawak). For not quite that large, the merrillii is one of the most underrated plants around. Grows fast, sun stresses, and has beautifully glossy leaves. Cheers from Iowa City 😁

[@snoywntr2]

This was interesting. Do you have a list maybe of varieties that should be trellised on what type of trellis or varieties that should not be trellised?

[@soberplantguy]

I guess I don't, really. Other than to observe my own collection--and others'. Searching images is really useful to see how other people are growing their Hoya, and what they look like. You may notice that no one, for instance, is growing the AH074 trailing because it simply will not leaf-out. Pretty sure this wasn't helpful, but I do appreciate the comment!

[@snoywntr2]

@ actually it’s common sense and i should have considered it myself . Here is me just hoping someone else did all the work 😂

[@soberplantguy]

@@snoywntr2 This is always one's first and best instinct 😆

[@judithkrmrs8533]

Great video Dave! The anthracina with her long vines would have given me a headache trying to trellis it! 😅 for the tips on the crassipetiolata I am really thankful because my new plant is shooting out vines and I was scared to mess with them because I didnt want her to discard the new growth. Now I will definitely put her on a trellis! Thanks for sharing your experience! ❤😊

[@soberplantguy]

I hope I trellised it ok(ish). I edited out the pain-in-the-keaster portions 🤣 As for your crassi, you'll be a lot happy if you try to control it, somewhat. But that plant wouldn't care what you do--it's going to grow, and grow, and grow........

[@gaillitver9131]

Agree your Sarawak looks AMAZING.

[@soberplantguy]

Thank you! Just a two leaf cutting only a few short months ago ☺

[@surgeinc1]

Wow, where to begin?….so many Hoya with long runners that I can’t ignore anymore!😂 Especially my Crasssipetiolata.

[@soberplantguy]

Yes, *especially* that plant 🤣 I had some props in the tent last year, and they so quickly entwined themselves between all the shelves and plants that it was simply easier to cut all the vines and get them out of there...!

[@paxleidig5327]

Is there a characteristic of the polyneura that tells you it will only trail? Or is that something species specific that you learn only by experience?

[@soberplantguy]

That is the characteristic, that it only trails. It’s simply not a climber.

[@hanstera_deliciosa]

Oooooh good question

[@hanstera_deliciosa]

@@soberplantguythe answer was so so

[@paxleidig5327]

So what are the characteristics that prevent it from climbing? No aerial roots?

[@soberplantguy]

@@hanstera_deliciosa The question was so so. I agree 🙃

[@psycheready6958]

Thanks for this video! I keep having the problem of what to do when a vine reaches the top of the arch trellis. It seems like when I wrap the vine down, it doesn't push out leaves or even dies off. Is there any solution to this? And is it only certain types of hoya that do this? I saw that your solution is to use a cylinder type set-up like your wire mesh trellis, which is something I might start doing!

[@soberplantguy]

That is a good question 😆 On all trellises, I trie to let the vine go as long as is reasonable before I turn it downward--with plenty of room for the vine to point back up. Some do okay this way, other, not a chance. I think it's why you'll see a lot of mature plants with wrapped, bare vines. The new growth on my australis, for instance, tends to hide a lot of that. Cheers from Iowa City!

[@simplydee4522]

Wow. Right out of the gate with that polyneura Dave?! Very gorgeous and vibrant. Mouth dropped on your Sarawak 👀 😲. Thanks for taking the time that you put into this video🎉👏🎉

[@soberplantguy]

Thanks for watching! That latifolia was only a two leaf cutting when I grabbed it early this summer. Quite the grower 😁

[@paxleidig5327]

YAY!

[@soberplantguy]

You are too kind ….

[@hanstera_deliciosa]

My sentiments exactly! My husband is now asking when the next video comes out because A. I have coerced him into watching every video, and B. He knows I’ll be indisposed for several hrs

[@derekloveshorror]

@@hanstera_deliciosayour husband must really love you.

[@hanstera_deliciosa]

@@derekloveshorror I mean, obviously. 🙄

[@soberplantguy]

@@hanstera_deliciosa He's following your orders 😆

[@christinev3861]

That Sarawak is beautiful! Do you still water weekly in the winter?

[@soberplantguy]

If the substrate dries out at the same rate, I do. Some plants are getting watered *more* often because of the drying, furnace heat (think small pots). So, in the tent for example, there are plants that will remain on the same "schedule" all winter, and some in larger pots that may not need to be watered quite as often. Most will, though. Cheers from Iowa City!

[@christinev3861]

@ thank you! It’s nice to know bc yours are so beautiful!

[@Kimbermoi]

I so wanted to insert a clip of "I Have Confidence" from The Sound of Music. LOL I want all the dragons, I have Celata at the moment (white dragon). Great video. 🇨🇦

[@soberplantguy]

The world can all be mine!!! 🤣😅🤣 I have two celata, for some creation. I almost pulled them out to trellis up together 😊

[@kristiemowry3267]

Once the trellis is full do you chop off the vines?

[@soberplantguy]

I typically let it grow quite long, and then gently drape/wrap it and clip it to the trellis, or another vine. That Australis has been wrapped many, many times. Hope that helps 😊

[@sandycucinotti7967]

I loved this video. It made me go and trellis one of my Hoya that was getting out of control. 😆

[@soberplantguy]

Yesssss!!

[@gennybunner7825]

Wow! Thank you That really helped me 😊

[@soberplantguy]

I’m so glad!

[@helenesolomon]

Thanks for the great info. Will put it to good use. I get most of my pots/cover pots from the thrift store.

[@paxleidig5327]

@@helenesolomon I will have to start checking out the thrift stores in my area. I never noticed pots etc before.

[@soberplantguy]

The secret to our success is ... we go out hunting just about every Saturday. We have so many cool shops here in Iowa City!

[@soberplantguy]

@@paxleidig5327 It's funny, because once you *start* looking for something, you'll start to notice that it's usually there, somewhere 😁

[@paxleidig5327]

@@helenesolomon Our little island community only has two thrift stores. Might have to drive around a bit.

[@helenesolomon]

@@paxleidig5327 Even though I live where there are many thrift stores, there is one I favor. The reason: I get 25% off on Tuesdays! Also, the pots are usually found with the crystal and fake flowers in my store. On my way there now.

[@lindaboxill7144]

Love the hack!

[@soberplantguy]

Cheap ‘n’ easy!

[@anawithplants]

my buotti does the same thing! I've gotten to the point where I just let it go lol. thanks for reminding me I need to trellis so many hoyas 😂

[@soberplantguy]

Think of all your viewers who *wish* they had a bunch of Hoya growing that well 🤩

[@Mspoor70]

👏👏👏👏fab vid and love that hack 🤩

[@soberplantguy]

I'm glad that you enjoyed it! Thanks for leaving your nice comment 😊

[@Isirius77]

WOW, what a great australis. Mine is still doing nothing. Just sitting there for weeks. But what i learned so far: be patient.

[@soberplantguy]

It took me about, oh, fifty years to learn that 😆

[@fatimagibsonhenley2281]

I do have a question for you, I saw that most of your Hoya's are in Terracotta. Is there a reason why you use those?

[@soberplantguy]

And basalt! I prefer them visually, for one. But I find them easier to grow in during our frigid winters when our house is often quite cool. In other words, that they wick water works better for me. Cheers from Iowa City!

[@Planty-Mandy]

I definitely need to trellis some Hoyas but then I need to find space for them in another spot but still with decent light. 😫 The struggle is real. I really do love the trailing Hoyas more than the climbing ones.

[@soberplantguy]

Ok, we’ll just pretend that the ‘Elephant’ wasn’t in the room 🤣😅🤣

[@hanstera_deliciosa]

Oh gosh. Don’t watch Dave on 2x speed guys. Word to the wise. Too cute for words

[@paxleidig5327]

@@hanstera_deliciosa you really DO get creative with these videos, don't you?! 😂

[@soberplantguy]

Helium Dave might be kinda entertaining, though

[@soberplantguy]

@@paxleidig5327 It does make one wonder, no?

[@hanstera_deliciosa]

@@paxleidig5327 😆

[@bethadamik8014]

LOL😂😂😂. Your comment about crassipetiolata because mine was in hanging basket next to my Lemonica and they both will go on trellis this winter as soon as I get them untangled😳😳😳😳😳

[@soberplantguy]

As I mentioned to another person, I had three growing next to each other, and it was finally easier to just cut the vines. What a freaking nightmare 🤣 (Ok, ok. Serious First World problems here.........)

[@wendyhartman5733]

Dave, could you please advise how to transfer a Hoya from pon to coco husk? I’m chicken s@&t to do it because of all the “Hoyas will throw a fit” saga

[@soberplantguy]

I wish I were a better person to ask. I've never done it. If it were me--and don't be me 😆--I'd make that transfer, then keep it reasonably moist during the acclimation. But ... Basie Plants moved many of his Hoya out of PON and made a video. I could have led with that if I'd remembered..... Cheers from Iowa City!

[@wendyhartman5733]

@ ty!

[@laurachapin204]

Dave, I turn my head when I see monkeys doing that. Anyway...I tried H. matilde on a round trellis. Nope. When I was ready to take cuttings, I took it off the trellis. It looked funky for a while with some peduncles sticking out like morning-hair. She's happy now. I have been using U-shaped bamboo and DIY wire hoops. The wire can be too skinny and bamboo can rot off eventually. There is no holy grail when it comes to trellises. One of my favorite styles though, is fan-shaped bamboo. (Like a backyard trellis, skinny at the bottom and wide at the top.) I have a H. macrophylla on a three foot fan and it's filling in nicely. It kinda does what your string trick does. We'll see how long it lasts. My biggest fear when trellising is kinking or snapping a stem, especially a green stem like H. globulosa. I'm learning to be patient and not clip too tight.

[@soberplantguy]

This globulosa are THICK. I never see those fan shape trellises for sale, though I have a small one. And yes, given that monkey his privacy 🤭

[@laurachapin204]

@ psst. Amazon has bamboo fan trellises.

[@soberplantguy]

@@laurachapin204 Thank you for not just straight up calling me stupid 😆 I thought a checked a few years back and... oh never mind. Thanks for the shout!

[@laurachapin204]

@@soberplantguy, oh my, never!

[@LeslieJermyn]

Great video, thank you. I'm looking forward to having gorgeous big plants like your monkey/football example. 😁

[@soberplantguy]

That should be a trademark name!

[@lovesyorkies3395]

I now see twine being sold on Amazon by the spools. Just kidding! Very interesting hack, I’ve done the double hoop trellis with my Hoya Sunrise but that looked like the monkey you spoke of..😂 so I chopped it, propped it and I’ll be giving my daughter a very nice full plant on a horseshoe trellis since I chopped it back in April I believe. I have my Hoya Royal Hawaiian Pubicalyx on a hoop and it looks pretty but she sits alone on a plant stand so space isn’t a problem. I save the pieces I cut off my bamboo trellis for those cuttings starting to grow out. I can’t believe your score at Goodwill! I NEVER find plant stuff at Goodwill. 😒 I try to go to garage sales and estate sales whenever possible. I can find some cool vintage wrought iron shelves for plants. I buy plexiglass sheets from Amazon so the drip tray and the plant won’t tip over between the rack. I don’t know if you’ve seen UPT videos but April is a wealth of knowledge. She suggests not to let a vine point downward when trellising because it will dry up and it’ll start another growth point somewhere higher on the vine so it’ll go up. Well I’ll be a monkeys uncle and sure enough that’s what I was doing wrong. I also watch Miro and he’s a hoot and very informative at the same time, I love him. Thanks for the hack! I might try it and I’ll let you know how it goes!

[@soberplantguy]

Those are two good resource, for sure. I heard April talking about how a storm destroyed her green houses. What a nightmare. On the thrifting front--why can't I find a cool iron *anything* to use for plants? 🤣 (Although the Hoosier cabinet you see behind me was a thrift find, so there's that.) The nice thing about Hoya, if you point that vine down, and mess with the growth tip and kill ... it's going to take care of itself and push out new growth. What great plants.

[@petrakleemann1594]

😊

[@soberplantguy]

Thanks for watching!

[@wendyhartman5733]

You are the only person I’ve heard say the money phrase besides me🤣😂

[@soberplantguy]

Sure, sure. But did you say "humping," or something ... worse?

[@wendyhartman5733]

@ I say a monkey f$(:$)g a football 🤪

[@wendyhartman5733]

I work in veterinary ER so I say it a lot at work!!!

[@soberplantguy]

@@wendyhartman5733 Well, if said in a professional capacity 😆

[@Cricri30047]

❤❤

[@soberplantguy]

Always appreciate you being here!

[@amyheckathorn7172]

2:32 I would call that elephant tongue, because those older leaves are giving me tongue vibes. 13:51 Do you isolate new plants and let them acclimate before repotting new plants? I ordered 5 new Hoya, they arrived (by mail) from Florida, Wisconsin, and Missouri to Arizona. After that journey, by mail, to a totally different climate it seemed cruel to immediately re-pot. They are acclimating, in a week, I’ll re-pot. I know you get most plants from a local friend, maybe it’s not an issue for you.

[@soberplantguy]

First, thank you, I'll never see my 'Elephant' the same again 🤣 And, no. I don't wait wait to repot Hoya when I get them by mail. None of the really experienced growers I know do, either. I have never lost a plant from doing that, but I've lost plenty while the roots rotted away without me knowing it. And then, of course, the one time I made the exception--root mealies. Fortunately that was well-contained, but I eventually lost quite a few valuable, young plants.

[@amyheckathorn7172]

@ Good point. The sturdier hoyas (crassipetiolata, hainanensis, and dasyantha) probably could have been repotted without issues. The smaller leafed hoyas (thompsonii and lyi) looked so fragile when they arrived. I thought the thompsonii had kicked it during the journey, but it has bounced back. The lyi is just two tiny delicate cuttings right now.

[@soberplantguy]

@@amyheckathorn7172 Oh, yes. That is a different story. I'm currently rooting/rerooting some really delicate babes. Def a different ball game (that's my only sports metaphor 🤣)

[@CeeCee630]

Annnnd I ordered 20 bamboo horseshoe trellises. Thanks

[@soberplantguy]

You should have just asked me 🤣😂🤣

[@CeeCee630]

@ what?? You’d send me some? But, I’m all the way in the Chicago burbs! I can always return mine to Amazon if that’s the case. 😜 - Fairly new hoya collector

[@GreenWitch1]

You know I’m not a Hoya girl, but i was gifted two fairly recently and fortunately they will both trail. Yay 😀

[@soberplantguy]

100% agree 🤩