How to Win as Vet Guard ONE YEAR LATER! | Guide & Retrospective for 2024

[@VentrueMinis]

We just got nerfed, go check the balance dataslate! kzbin.info/www/bejne/gl64lGOIqbhjfbssi=v0Hp6SvMJb2s1q1Y

[@seajay4194]

Y U Do THIS!

[@lionman8295]

My Dad crushed my Heirotek with these guys. Twice. I now have a deep fear of Meltas and Flamers.

[@andreashuber5594]

Bro, you are a real one! Your initial guide was one of my favorite guides ever. I learned so much, not only about vet guard but kill team as a whole with your insights. And the update is the cherry on top, knowing that everything is still up to date is soo valuable in a time in which everything changes so often. Great work, can't wait for the battle report!

[@VentrueMinis]

Cheers mate! Appreciate this a lot, can't wait for you to see this battle report!!

[@bolterboy]

Damn dude, PERFECT TIMING! I just got a second set of them to fill out my ranks. I'm a newbie so these are really helpful for me. You're a real one!!

[@KillTeamHungary]

I havent played Vetguard for 2 years now and I had 2 games under my belt in total. Yesterday was the 3rd vs. Kommandos on ITD. Thanks to your vid, I managed to wombo combo a victory 18 to 13 vs. the orks and the MVP was the demo man, killing 3 orks and himself. The Hardened vet shrugged off 8 wounds out of the 13, and lived and I maxed all secondary tacops, the in Death Atonement to keep melee operatives in melee, screwing up their activation... CHEF'S KISS! The most important statement in the video is "if your opponent doesn't understand what the demo man does, you have won the game". That is 100% true. After my opponent painted himself into a corner, setting up the mass murder of his own troops, I told him 3 activations prior what is going to happen. He could not do anything to prevent it, even set 2 models into Guard to cover the firing angles to shoot my demo but thanks to a 200IQ low key LVO barricade placement, nobody could shoot him before he killed himself and 3 other orks. GOLDEN. Keep up the good work!

[@VentrueMinis]

Incredible!!! I love hearing stories like this. Well done mate!

[@burp114]

"I don't put much stock in win rates in KT, the sample size is too small" THANK YOU! Drives me crazy to see community members trying to do DS on kill team data when the numbers just aren't there lol. Also I've just stopped taking the rosary when I play vet guard because the emotional damage of forgetting about it until 2 activations after yhe weilder died is too much to bear.

[@VentrueMinis]

Going to make a video about win rates soon, it's getting crazy haha. Cheers! And lmao I super feel you on the rosary, definitely did that quite a bit early on.

[@hoshi314]

The fact that starter set kill team (granted vet guard need a 2nd box) is still top tier (even avter kommandos nerf) os a testament for both vet guard amd kommandos, hell vet guard never got any changes aside from FAQ and some errata

[@Rlndgunslinger]

Just started playing this team a month ago, and I found your Vet Guard video really helpful. Watched it at least three times. Nice to see there's a new video as well!

[@FierceGK1]

Love the vet guard and Kasrkin guides! Thanks for putting out more good content!

[@timjones1676]

Incredible analysis of my favorite team! I love the in depth explanations of your tactics, and find it very helpful. Keep up with your videos. I’m a fan now!

[@DodgethisCZ]

Thanks for update m8! I play them because of your guide and its most fun team so far :)

[@KayLovesSUGAR]

Love your energy!

[@Dalandow]

Your guides are always so helpful. The one you made for Kasrkin helped me tremendously. I'd love to see one of these for Elucidian Starstridders at some point.

[@ashull5539]

Just recently getting into vet guard for a big narrative campaign for KT and the guy running it referenced this video to me. Absolutely love the vid, thank you so much! Definitely needed these tips and roster.

[@GreySectoid]

I'm new to KT and I play Veterans, thank you for this guide, very helpful.

[@Auscarsy]

He speaks so highly of the demo vet. I’ve never run it and even though I win a decent amount, I feel like I’m missing out on something… 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

[@janikalejandroperezarmenda7005]

I'm pretty new to kill team and I still don't understand how to play the vets, but this guide is really helpful

[@user-ln2ku1jw8p]

Thanks for the update

[@KeevaTheFirstRival]

Fantastic work on this guide! Keep up the good work!

[@Pitt976]

coming in on point here ! Great Video !!!! and let me say by far the best tactics explanation , watching it 5th times in a row now !

[@Cristobarq88]

Im trying to start playing kill team and i like the vet guard so much. Which box do u recommend to star with, considering your operative choices? I mean, the octarius box and the vet guardsman stand alone box, both will allow me to assemble your basic list? I understand that i will need an aditional box for the 4 extra troopers, but im looking where to start first. Im totally new to kt and wh40k in general, so your guide was very helpfull! Great and detailed explanation man!!

[@VentrueMinis]

Welcome! I think a great starting point can either be to get the Veteran Guardsmen box and get two of them OR grab the Cadian Shock Troopers box with the upgrade box, since that upgrade box comes with enough stuff to make a Vet Guard team, just themed differently. Good luck!

[@feywilddogs]

Wow! Great stuff!

[@warmasterraven1447]

How do you always post these JUST as I want to adjust my tactics?? THANK YOU

[@KillTeamHungary]

Hey Mr. Venture Minies! What are your thoughts on the nerfs? Is VG still worth playing?

[@ProbablyMick]

Well you called the Demo Vet nerf lol!

[@doomjoon_zmajich]

What do you think about giving a rosary to the demo vet instead, so it can better resist grenades which don't care about conceal? I haven't played the vets yet but it sounds like it might be a good choice, or is sergeant survivability more important?

[@VentrueMinis]

Since the demo vet doesn't need to see any enemy operatives, you should be able to keep him safe until he does his job, unlike everyone else. He has a huge threat range, so you don't need to be that risky with his positioning. Sergeant, with 8 wounds and often fighting in melee, needs it more.

[@DodgethisCZ]

Can we get updated Inquisitorial Agents too? I bet that will help a lot after updates :)

[@tanner.fletcher]

You talk about the Demo Vet being the centre piece, but how are you keeping it alive? You mention being able to perform its abilities again, is it normal to have it stay alive more than one turn? I've only played a handful of games so far but I can count on two fingers how many times my models have survived being shot to take another turn. They die from a strong breathe of air it seems like. Being new I could totally be missing something too.

[@VentrueMinis]

It's less the fact that you'll be able to use his ability again and moreso the fact that, even if you do a huge blast with him, your opponent STILL has to worry about him and delete him before he does it again. They can't just ignore him after you pull it off.

[@mrscantparry]

After the substantial Demo nerf, do you still recommend them over someone like the medic?

[@VentrueMinis]

The demo is still incredible!

[@kevinb871]

Did you kit bash the demo vet so you could have a sniper or did you just pick up a second trooper box

[@VentrueMinis]

2nd box.

[@kevinb871]

@@VentrueMinis thanks! I realized right after I put the comment you recommended taking the 4 extra guards

[@davidd.5222]

New Kasrkin Video coming soon @VentrueMinis ? 👀

[@VentrueMinis]

Haven't had a lot of time with the new Kasrkin yet! Been playing a lot of Scouts!

[@davidd.5222]

Fair enough. Scouts, seem underwhelming to me, but will be curious how people will get the most out of them given the new terrain. KASRKIN haven't been as terrible as people seem to think either. They just got... more consistent. Plus the ignore obscuring on BD by the recon trooper adds some unique ways to present threats. @@VentrueMinis

[@thegreatest1294]

Is there going to be an update video for kasrkin too?

[@jbonesjmw8180]

What would you recommend for a “one-box” build?

[@VentrueMinis]

Not really worth it, imo. One box is pretty rough for Vet Guard. Maybe proxy as Kasrkin? 🫡

[@Pitt976]

let me ask, can the comms guy give away 2APL(signal) per turning point or is the unique action signal only allowed once per turning point ? buffing the demo with +2apl should not be possible right ? But giving away 1APL for another team member is possible ?

[@VentrueMinis]

Unique action :)