How To WIN(?) With Avatar Belial

[@ZetaFan42069]

As someone learning both belials this guide is very insightful. You were right i will now switch to nier

[@emeraldmann1329]

give daddy some sugar

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

The smart play.

[@lucianoaguero6795]

Thank you for the warning Jiyuna, I'm gonna completely ignore it

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

You will regret it.

[@kaigai-nikimajikoi325]

That suicide combo damage for both players is nuts. Living life on the edge like a true wild boy lol

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

It's not even that much damage to the opponent honestly. Other characters can do more for the same resources and take NO damage.

[@sushiibrain]

the pain and suffering is the bonus that comes with playing this character

[@Warptime13]

"there's nothing you can do" (in regards to using the flight and the opponent just chooses a reversal option-> super/DP/aerial) is the realest thing with this character. Tried him out, got some Sushi combos, took him online, immediately realized the 1-button reversal crowd and free-to-play gamers dunk on this character every time he takes to the air. It's actually quite frustrating to have a character that has a bunch of cool offensive pressure options and they are all mostly fake, specifically for offense/corner pressure. Can't even do the light version of flight and quickly stomp to reach the ground before a DP comes out. The play is to back off a little bit to get them to not reversal and then cheese em with his really good corner carry. confirm into EX rekka can take them from a full third of the screen into the corner for extension. This character is beans. I love him. I will be switching mains.

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

You gotta make them very scared or catch them sleeping.

[@Chazmo53]

This is the exact reason I stopped using him. As soon as I hit past Bronze 5 everyone knew how to deal with him. It got especially annoying dealing with characters like Djeeta who can land 1 2L, deal 60%, build 80% SBA gauge, and take you from midscreen to corner. And flight basically was always a useless option cuz everyone has a crazy fast reversal, so any time I'd try to do wing setups, I was just waiting for the EX DP to ruin my day. It got so bad that 1: I switched back to Seox, a character I enjoyed labbing with but never took online, and 2: I just never did wings in the corner. The most I would do was Devil Beam from max range or a YOLO Command Grab once their DP was on cooldown.

[@dimensionalnemesis8636]

I actually played Belial as a Main when he came out, but then dropped him in a heartbeat when Avatar Belial came out, Avatar Belial isn't my Main, but he's really my go to when i wanna oppress, bully and get shit done, i just don't get much pressure going with other Characters but i never have trouble with him, probably because of the Rekka, i just feel like i have options when i play him, and i just love a Glass Cannon sacrificing his HP in general.

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

He definitely has a lot of tools/options which is fun.

[@tylerbrown1013]

A helpful ABel tip i see a lot of high level players using is throwing out f.M buffered into H.projectile in neutral. On crouching hit can cancel into stomp for great corner carry and/or midscreen damage. On standing hit you get plus frames to start your pressure. On block you also get plus frames to start your pressure, and if i recall correctly the longer blockstun from H projectile jails into the stomp so you dont lose to reversal mashing. On hit i find this sequence more than worth the health cost, both crouching and standing. On block its a bit mid, but thats okay. You paid a bit of health to turn a f.M poke into your offensive pressure.

[@skbj6782]

people are starting to use the first hit of light rekka a lot more now too. it combos off lights and on crouching hit is very easy to confirm into 8U. on standing hit you do the full rekka instead which I find is better than landing 236H on a standing opponent. it's for the corner carry in either case more than the damage and you don't spend your health until you need to. the downside to 236H is it can be spot dodged if you do it too much. still good but I try not to spam it. it does jail into stomp but it's a costly way to get in

[@Tw-Fenix]

7:20 That Belial is me,you are too strong

[@sirscrubaliciousyt5954]

Lmao this is the validation I needed Ngl 😂 I consider him my secondary, even tho atp I used him like TWICE as much as my main (Lancelot) because for the life of me I couldn’t figure out anything really strong about him lmao. I’m still gonna stick with him during these hard times. But whatever buff they give him, it needs to be some kind of win condition. I feel like I’m ALWAYS on the back foot just hoping my opponent doesn’t know how to deal with what I’m doing lol

[@iAronn]

Btw you can mid screen combo FlyM with any version of fly. 2L will connect and you go from there. FlyM is hella plus but it can be guard canceled and spot dodged. Edit: yes this works in the corner too. Just extra easy damage

[@tempoaccla4041]

Man your Soriz guide made me finally click with the character, I've always loved him but I just couldn't get used to him but now? I'm destroying fools I really like Belial and Avatar Belial so hopefully this video is just as good at helping me

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

Avatar Belial is harder to explain... difficult character

[@tempoaccla4041]

@@ANIMEILLUMINATI yeah I sent that comment before seeing the video I mean the video is great either way, he relies on mind games and the threat of the two hit instead of having several super good moves that allow you to build a clear path towards victory like Soriz I guess I'll just play Soriz and regular Belial for now Also today I checked the Nier cheap guide...I didn't want to use her before the nerfs but might as well try to reach easy lvl 300 while she is busted

[@_Deez]

You know it hurt Jiyuna to make a guide where he couldn't say "this is busted just use this". Sad day indeed

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

I tried so hard but couldn't find anything.

[@_Deez]

@ANIMEILLUMINATI I find it hilarious that he got shit on in the normals department cause they decided to change 2M and f.h. Belial's best normals and he couldn't even have that. Killing yourself means speed running to the character select screen so that's a plus lmao

[@NightmareTerumi]

I got Belial to 500 mostly playing Avatar (Probably 80% of my matches) and even now I can't stop playing him. Yeah it's rough sometimes and he doesn't have anything special or super cheesy going for him but I feel that's why I love playing him. It feels really good to get that W. Even though I'm killing myself to land these combos I'm always satisfied when I do. I get this guy to S+ I'm never touching ranked again XD

[@TheBigBaza]

After 1800+ games. I'm still not there! 😭. I feel this though. I said the same thing to myself. S+ and I'm done! Highest I've been so far is S2

[@NightmareTerumi]

@@TheBigBaza Just hit S+ on Avatar with 2,370 games. Proud of myself and I don't think I'll be doing it on anyone else. You're not far behind so best of luck. If things are looking rough it's ok to stop. That's what I did after going from 1 set away from S+ promos down to S3. That break is what got me here now.

[@TheBigBaza]

@@NightmareTerumi Appreciate the advice bro. But I'm too far gone. I never know when to walk away haha 😂. We Win big or Go home. ALL IN! ☠️

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

He's fun for sure, but the amount of rounds I lost from one mash/reversal from my opponent...

[@NightmareTerumi]

@@ANIMEILLUMINATI Right there with you on that. Playing this character you might as well put on a "Please rob me." sign on yourself because it's gonna happen and a lot more than you would like. I'm here for it though, I think it helped me learn and play better. Sometimes you just get unlucky though.

[@keemo2684]

You should make a guide on Charlotta next :) She's a charge character and it would be nice seeing your opinions on her move set!

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

That little GORILLA.

[@BayHawk619]

Us Avatar players live for that pain. Is he good? Nah. But you're gonna hold this 60-70% combo on my mama.

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

You're BOTH gonna hold this 60% combo.

[@reireinin8882]

He can be the best robbing character or just die to a wake up grab/reversal. His flight can be easily counter with a long reaching air move and he is really bad against defensive player that know how to deal with his command grab, you have to bet and do alot of read pbut honestly he got beam from the eyes, 10/10 for me

[@drunkboi5887]

The Vaseraga MU for him rly shows Abel's glaring weaknesses. In this MU u lose more HP during your combo than your oponent and a lot of ur mix can be countered by his armor or long reach

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

He needs buffs for real

[@qspec2002]

I have an A.Belial guide: Step 1: Do suicide combo on full life opponent Step 2: Lose round Step 3: Complain on the internet about how weak A.Belial is

[@CelesterianGames]

The only buff he needs is enmity grid

[@Luchamasterfit]

Looks like my comment got deleted, possibly because I linked a streamable link to help people. So I'll repost the info without the link. Another important combo midscreen which is reliable since it starts with RS>RC is c.L c.H 236H 214U. Its mostly juggles so you have to time it, but it can essentially go corner to corner with over 6k damage. Not saying Jiyuna deleted it, probably auto deleted. It doesnt matter either way. I just wanna help people who wanna try this honestly really fun character. Also his 2L is busted that shit is frame 5 and long as hell. Grants punishes on some situations other characters dream they could get

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

If the 214U is a link could be good for the meter refund.

[@Luchamasterfit]

@@ANIMEILLUMINATI It picks up off the heavy rocks, so not only do you get a refund you get the max U damage and the benefit of the extra damage from classic inputting it. Its a crazy strong option

[@moonbeam2730]

ty for this, now i will (expectedly) die to a gran player after losing the very next neutral exchange (i won the first neutral exchange and suicide combo'd him)

[@locustskater]

Does anyone have Shou-san Master Zeta player Twich?

[@Duskia]

1:52 Being down one BP doesn't change defense actually, only when you have 1 or 0 left lol

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

If you do the SSBA it brings you to 0 before doing the damage, so it does

[@Duskia]

@@ANIMEILLUMINATI ooh didn't know the calculation happened *before* the BP loss but it makes sense lol, so SSBAs always do 20% more damage minimum :o

[@AlternativeFGC]

As the greatest Avatar Player this side of the Mississippi. My only advice, is don't

[@xaviersejour9183]

Every character has something that makes them stupid but then there’s this character who hurts him self for very little reward

[@greensky5328]

I'd love to see a bubz or lucifer guide, continue the villian streak.

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

I'm on Lucifer now, very fun but pretty technical.

[@TheBigBaza]

This character gave me a gambling addiction. 10/10 would play "just one more match" 😎

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

Definitely a character for gamblers.

[@TheSeventhChild]

I have no intention of playing this character I just came here to laugh

[@michael13849]

Every time i pick Avatar belial my game glitches and picks nier. As for the next character, regular belial. He was my main in vanilla and doesnt feel like much has change but i wanna know where the cheap stuff is.

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

You got the good version then.

[@RaheemRollair]

There's two ways to fix this Avatar. Increase his reward, or reduce his risk.

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

Would be funny to increase his reward, but might become broken.

[@RaheemRollair]

@@ANIMEILLUMINATI Lol Game Development in a nutshell. They’re either going to be broken or broken to pieces.

[@uhoh7545]

10:39 my ass is NOT getting out of thr corner with Anre

[@whizthesugoi]

i want to see your take on Anre!

[@greensky5328]

uno is lowkey so hype

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

I'll never forgive him for taking Siete's spot.

[@whizthesugoi]

@@ANIMEILLUMINATI revenge is nigh

[@incrediblehak2833]

Anyone got a powerful anti air combo for him in the corner. I love the suicide combo but i feel like people will just jump in the corner to avoid it

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

You just do 2H > 215H into the Suicide route

[@incrediblehak2833]

@ANIMEILLUMINATI do you mean 214H? His reka?

[@Thermalfusi0n]

jyuna telling me to use a classic input ? Who is this imposter

[@ThePanchEffect]

sooner or later will need a baby tutorial, base, no DLC; how to reach rank work/sleep/eat balanced time

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

I need one...

[@opbush5272]

I main both belials but avatar is so fun even though I lose way more with him. I think he's rated too high though.

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

He's fun for sure, but so frustrating to lose even though you played better.

[@opbush5272]

@@ANIMEILLUMINATI Yea, I've had moments where I experienced this, hopefully he gets some kind of buff.

[@vand.bastelli]

he is A.B.A from GG

[@JinRatSamuel]

hot half naked man how can I NOT pick him?

[@broly246810]

Is there any point of using Avatar over Regular Belial?

[@uratheboi1555]

Beyond you liking the Avatar design more? Absolutely not just pick regular belial lmao. He does what Abelial wishes he could do

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

Fun

[@AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz]

meanwhile Jubei

[@ZeroillusionX]

I personally think avatar belial should get nerf and buff nier, nier needs help, she needs it

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

Buff Nier and then move her to GGST.

[@ZeroillusionX]

@@ANIMEILLUMINATI that would make me want to guilty gear again

[@whizthesugoi]

How to LOSE LESS (?) With Avatar Belial

[@leonardomu]

LOL... You are contradicting yourself all the time during this Jiyuna. "He doesn't have any bull shit...". Next line you are saying about his many "very powerful" tools, hahaha. This char is monster. 60% damage combo anytime is crazy! He can zoning, he can pressure. His special is mad crazy, one of the best in the game for sure.

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

Absolutely not

[@DarkProdigy820]

Commenting on every video before Arakune BBCF combo trials, video 104. Ngl, I hate playing against this character so much. His pressure is annoying to deal with imo.

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

Just hit him once.

[@crymeariver221]

As a seigfriend player I laugh at the fact y'all have to spend all those resources for that ass damage