#Warhammer40k More TacticalTortoise: linktr.ee/tacticaltortoise
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@cullenasaro22294 ай бұрын
This is my favorite kind of content. Picking an army or archtype not usually seen, and diving in and finding something to make it work. I feel like 10th ed still has so much to explore and videos like this show that even a tempestus scions army (which i have literally only seen 1 game of this edition) can put out something scary on the table. Very much liked this video.
@jessethompson18272 ай бұрын
GW must have seen this, with the new points, Scions are looking good.
@ryansoto70932 ай бұрын
As an avid Scion/Guard combo player they have been phenomenal in 10th for me they just pack so much hate and punch way above their weight class
@BloodBuffalo4 ай бұрын
I have a friend that runs a version of this. The fun of 40k is making unique lists. Content that doesn't hyper focus on the meta Is always welcome content.
@t3hSpAdEs4 ай бұрын
Hey Trevor any interest in doing a guard chat with Mordian Glory?
@s.h-d60744 ай бұрын
I play 6x10 Scions with 2x Plasma 2x Melta etc. 4 Taurox Prime with 4 of those Squads inside and 3 Primaris Psykers and Kyria Draxus inside and 2 Units with Tempestus Cmd Squads in Deepstrike. Add 2x6 Bullgryns, the Callidus and the Ghosts and a brace of Demolition Vehicles and it is surprisingly effektive and good despite of being really fun to play. Usually opponents try to charge and tag the Scions after getting blasted, then you just fall back into the Taurox and are good to go again. And do not forget to use Reinforcements to bring a full Squad back again...admittedly without the characters but there are still 4 special weapons and a plasma pistol and a power fist in the squad. Taking the Bullgryns really paid off...they can take a hell of a beating and they hit surprisingly hard...6 big bois have 24 attacks hitting on 3s and usually wounding on 3s. Wit this volume you can even go and tangle with vehicles. Only -1 or half damage really fucks up this combo
@Gromeish4 ай бұрын
Love your gaurd content. Love anything that isn't codex indirect 😂
@CapedCrayola4 ай бұрын
Love these types of videos! Thank you! The 1000 Sons wizard only video was amazing too!
@Talorc14 ай бұрын
This is a great fun list, please keep making ones like this
@Lorddacenshadowind4 ай бұрын
Thing is though is that it's expensive like 350pts Command squad 80 Creed 60 Primaris psyker 60 Taurox prime 90(ish) Scions 55 For a unit that dies fairly quickly and reinforcements only brings back the 5 scions
@TacticalTortoise4 ай бұрын
Enemy can't kill you if you've killed them first
@TheMarcosvolta4 ай бұрын
@@TacticalTortoise "the best crowd control is death." -me playing world of warcraft
@NerdWarpNine4 ай бұрын
100% correct. take 20 kreigsmen, marshall and psyker and you will gain far more resilience than killing power. Let the infantry gather objectives and you demolishers and las cannons take care of the damage output.
@TankCommanderWatchdog4 ай бұрын
Fun thing, the tempestus command squad is the only command squad with the regiment keyword meaning they can be brought back separately from the 5 man scions themselves
@TheMarcosvolta4 ай бұрын
@@NerdWarpNine i've been wanting to take 20 krieg, 1 marshal with drill commander, a platoon squad with 3-4 special weapons and a hades breaching drill with the intent to use rapid ingress and place them in a spot where they wont get shot off the board before its my turn. the plan is to use born soldiers and FRFSRF to just unleash hell on something, fishing for 5s and 6s, so i dont really care about take aim. 9 to 10 special weapons with lethals on 5+, as well as 13 or so las rifles def aint no joke.
@jay-esslanoue48624 ай бұрын
I was watching another content creator playing Temptus Scions and Valkyrie/Vulture air support. I watched offload, shoot, get back in and the planes strafed in. It wasn't necessarily the best list or anything I've seen, but it was super cool. TL; DR - this content is dope as heck. Good job.
@darkskies22604 ай бұрын
I love this type of stuff.
@eyohboy4553 ай бұрын
I like the crassus with 30 scions idea more
@ryansoto70933 ай бұрын
Can confirm
@ryansoto70932 ай бұрын
I highly recommend, grand strategist with command rod for Scion death balls
@paultrasband4 ай бұрын
I love this list
@budgoerke95442 ай бұрын
What program are you using to demonstrate this?
@stephen9to54 ай бұрын
Scions are my favorite army
@Irencor4 ай бұрын
awesome tech!! i love this video and i hope you do more. what did you do with the two tank comanders? why not one Tank Comander and one regular Russ?
@TheMarcosvolta4 ай бұрын
TC's can fire on death, which can help put out some unexpected damage in the opponents turn.
@ryansoto70932 ай бұрын
The tank commanders can give orders to each other
@aaronf77032 ай бұрын
@@ryansoto7093 Unfortunately they cant, they do not have the keywords required, can be ordered by Lord Solar however.
@user-ty4vc9cc6s4 ай бұрын
Do you know the Astra Bang Bus?Including 128 heavy bolter shots... You need a Stormlord equiped with bolter and 6 ogryn in Transport Try thats
@iandestroyerofworlds5764 ай бұрын
I got close to beating my Necron Brother's list. It's super meta. But I almost won rolling poorly and him rolling well, with intercessor spam. :D Now..Idk if I could win against most lists. Wanna do one about Space Marine Infantry spam?
@Wes-xk6hl4 ай бұрын
And they look way cooler
@TacticalTortoise4 ай бұрын
100%
@rickydasilva67994 ай бұрын
Playing with a similar list right now vs my friend group and its tons of fun. One neat thing that is worth mentioning is the not only do the Scions but also the Tempestors have the regiment keyword so fields of fire and reinforcements are great for them to deepstrike right back in. Have a squad die, bring back the Tempestor to double up on an order somewhere else on the battlefield. My list also capitalizes on this by having the tempestor squad with an ogryn and Regimental Advisor Squad attached and the grand strategist but they start on the board and walk forward with double orders.
@TacticalTortoise4 ай бұрын
Definitely useful if you have the CP for it for sure
@fred1456Ай бұрын
be carefull, tank commander can't order themself, because they arent "squadron"; a régular mistake :)
@wurstsalatplays5234 ай бұрын
Crassus > Taurox
@TacticalTortoise4 ай бұрын
At being slow fsfs 😉
@wurstsalatplays5234 ай бұрын
@@TacticalTortoise abababababawah! Slander!
@darkmagpiestudios82224 ай бұрын
hmmmmm... looks better then nids.
@TacticalTortoise4 ай бұрын
What doesn't?
@nighttrace13124 ай бұрын
All true, however the Mathhammer part doesn't account for the saves. Guard can put out some great damage but it's usually easily saved against.
@TacticalTortoise4 ай бұрын
It does - that's damage after saves are rolled That would be why it changes when cover is also accounted for...
@nighttrace13124 ай бұрын
@TacticalTortoise what are you shooting into? I've been trying things out against Terminator squads and it's been miserable lately!
@TacticalTortoise4 ай бұрын
@@nighttrace1312 I talk about all of it from 7:41 onward
@sebastianmeller13054 ай бұрын
Orders do not stack as I know. Just one at a time.
@TacticalTortoise4 ай бұрын
Spoken like a man who's never equipped his Tempestor Prime with a command rod
@Damnedlegion40k4 ай бұрын
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@TheMarcosvolta4 ай бұрын
first?
@TheMarcosvolta4 ай бұрын
You can also give the Tempestor Prime, Grand Strategist, to give itself double orders. Although, if you do have a 2nd unit to give orders, you could also go with Drill Commander for Sustained hits on 5s. Potentially, if the unit has a Primaris Psyker you could instead Rapid Ingress the unit, utilizing the Psykers ability to make sure they survive til your turn, thus granting them Born Soldiers on your turn, for even more shenanigans on 5+. That last bit is highly situational, but theres no reason you cant have a team setup like this in reserves in addition to the Taurox Prime strategy.
@Lorddacenshadowind4 ай бұрын
Remember psyker stops their deepstrike so they have to walk on
@TacticalTortoise4 ай бұрын
I'm not sure about Grand Strategist comboing, since it specifically only works during the Command Phase, not after disembarking like normal orders.
@robbiemintz14604 ай бұрын
@@TacticalTortoisefor Cherokee, FLG ruled that Grand Strategist works on disembarking or set up too.
@TheMarcosvolta4 ай бұрын
@@TacticalTortoise You are correct, but that does seem like an oversight, sadly. The GS rules were written before the amendment to orders after placement or disembarkment. Its pretty obvious that it should be 2 orders per turn, period, just as its obvious that disembarking does not give you double orders in one turn. This is unfortunately one of the pain points of dealing with GW and their rules/points updates. Sure they do a pretty good job, but they always seem to overlook small details like this that hurt armies in small ways. So its either, wait a few months and hope its brought to their attention, or just live with the RAW and play around it. I mean, Drill Commander does seem like more fun to use anyways, especially with Sustained and Lethal hits...
@TheMarcosvolta4 ай бұрын
@@robbiemintz1460 I hope this ruling gets implemented by GW. its not a huge deal, but its def a bit of a pain point. otherwise it costs an additional 30 points just to give that unit double orders, all due to an oversight.