For Cap to be his best self he had to get a life. For Tony to be his best self he had to lose his. Wow that hit hard
@hahahha28835 жыл бұрын
I know I was like "But tony isnt goin to be his best self......His dead"
@Comic.2154 жыл бұрын
Senpai_Chan you messed up bro 😂
@dmurray12005 жыл бұрын
The writers sitting in a room plotting out the time heist: "Guys, if you pick the right year, there are three stones in New York"
@terrygoh80175 жыл бұрын
Kevin: SHUT THE DOOR!
@franchino885 жыл бұрын
Terry Goh OPEN THE DOOR
@allthatjazz44375 жыл бұрын
Franchino 88 now shut it again
@goingham44005 жыл бұрын
@@allthatjazz4437 now open it again
@Brydude875 жыл бұрын
Now shut the door once again
@JBrotsis15 жыл бұрын
Kevin Fiege and the Russo Brothers get a majority of the praise of Infinity War and Endgame, but people seem to forget how crucial Stephen and Christopher have been for both movies and Cap’s character development. They’ve done just as great a job as the Russo’s and I cannot wait to see what they do next.
@Patrick-te3cr5 жыл бұрын
Very true, they deserve the praise for Infinity War, but not fan service: the movie.. they dropped the ball on that film.
@spyridon78965 жыл бұрын
@@JBrotsis1 endgame
@joelmiller26015 жыл бұрын
jbroti 004 Are you actually serious right now?
@JBrotsis15 жыл бұрын
I know Jesus if you’re referring to Cap picking up the hammer, that was both great and something worked up to since AoU. If they allowed Cap to lift the hammer in the first Avengers, then I’d agree it felt like forced, unearned fan service. Not for Endgame. Sorry if anyone disagrees. Don’t care if anyone disagrees.
@jiggymario81615 жыл бұрын
Ya, can't wait for another snooze fest like Endgame.
@rickDArula5 жыл бұрын
Its guys like these, who get no credit besides their name in a long credit scene. But they're some of the most important people
@johnathonhaney82915 жыл бұрын
Such is the way it has always been for writers. Look up Richard Matheson sometime and everything he did in his life to get an idea of how big a hidden influence he was and remains.
@jjbjjv82884 жыл бұрын
Yeah the Russo brothers get the credit unfortunately
@cartoonyyaya79854 жыл бұрын
I feel the same way!!
@spike54992 жыл бұрын
@@jjbjjv8288 wdym unfortunately? The writers were crucial in how these movies turned out but the russo brothers were also crucial and contributed greatly. Unless you mean it's unfortunate that the russo brothers get all the credit and these guys get barely any, in which case I agree
@diekje87285 жыл бұрын
Actually as a hobby writer, this video is teaching me so much about making a good story and to see the process of long term development of a story
@livelyrook76055 жыл бұрын
Same
@MarkMcAllister-ni9sf5 жыл бұрын
No it isn't...ie 'Captain Marvel"
@maxhydekyle24255 жыл бұрын
@@MarkMcAllister-ni9sf They didn't write that...
@MarkMcAllister-ni9sf5 жыл бұрын
@@maxhydekyle2425 it was shoehorned into the film for political wokeness...so yes they did
@JBrotsis15 жыл бұрын
Mark McAllister she was in the movie so that the final movie to end this saga would feature ALL the MCU heroes. I know it’s cool to hate on Cap Marvel, but your reasoning here is pretty pathetic.
@MrSoulshock445 жыл бұрын
The fact that they are so passionate is the real reason all of this actually worked
@Loyal_Lion5 жыл бұрын
MrSoulshock44 I think you can't underestimate the collaborative aspect here as well. They worked closely not only with the producers of each Marvel IP but with the actors and directors on a daily basis. It really shows.
@thetruth8305 жыл бұрын
@WolfofMiibu nope, he's still awesome.
@tuckamania76 Жыл бұрын
Wish they had channeled some of that passion toward their writing of the Hulk. They wrote the worst Hulk we have ever gotten in a marvel movie.
@dustinheese5 жыл бұрын
Hawkeye cold open caught the audience off guard in the theater and was a great start to the movie.
@izlshf58795 жыл бұрын
Really? Knowing how marvel movies started, I knew it was going to open with Hawkeye because it had to happen during Infinity War but it didn't. So i thought it probably going to start the movie with another victim of the snap to remind us about Infinity War
@dustinheese5 жыл бұрын
@@izlshf5879 Good for you. There are many approaches to watching a movie, I chose to not to speculate on how the story might unfold. A few people were finding their seats still and before the sight of a studio logo there were audible gasps where I was and I've heard others anecdotally recall the same. Audiences came to the theater excited to see how their heroes will pull this one off and the tone of that scene was a hard reminder of the losses of Infinity War. Clint's uncertainty is a reminder of those lost who are both unseen, as well as normal people losing their loved ones for unknown reasons so abruptly.
@theaveragemegaguy5 жыл бұрын
FlmKrp Shx you’re so cool bro
@gradedwarrior44765 жыл бұрын
@@izlshf5879 Me and my family didn't expect it to happen at the very beginning.
@izlshf58795 жыл бұрын
@@theaveragemegaguy why?😅
@JacobMcAllister5 жыл бұрын
They knew Tony was going to die back in 2015.... we were so naive
@Freeden5 жыл бұрын
If you thought about it hard enough, it was always likely. RDJ wasn't going to play the part forever and his entire arc was leading up to a moment like that. He became progressively more heroic as the movies went on. I think people just didn't want to think about it. I certainly didn't. I've just been invested in the ride, not every single character's fate. I think Captain America's fate was a lot more surprising.
@anvaryusupov82455 жыл бұрын
@@Freeden But I bet nothing was more surprising than Thor's fate, nobody predicted THAT) He was the most boring among those three main avengers. I wasn't invested in his story. But IW changed everything)
@Atlas-FM85 жыл бұрын
Anybody paying attention to RDJ's contract negotiations knew his time in the MCU was limited. Downey wanted to move on to new things and Disney was tired of paying him 50 million a movie.
@firstlast98465 жыл бұрын
We all knew tbh
@MrKramer4395 жыл бұрын
I’d say the majority of fandom would’ve bet that Cap was going to make that winning sacrifice and tony would finally retire. With the 5 year skip, Tony kind of got that ending
@TimSmithWordSmith5 жыл бұрын
No matter how high your preferred place is in writing, this is highly useful advice.
@samanthaho77135 жыл бұрын
The fact that they are writers first, screenwriters second is probably central to their success. Some people aim to write blockbusters, but these people aim to tell stories. They’d never sacrifice character development and consistency for some cheap wow moment. That’s why the MCU is so much more than just superhero movies. They’re human stories too.
@TheMasterQuests5 жыл бұрын
Some of the MCU not all of it
@danrazART5 жыл бұрын
@@TheMasterQuests at least movies by these guys. There are no two movies in the world as infinity war & Endgame. Even if someone does not like them, you can't disagree to their power over audiences globally. Or will wait for an example.
@TheMasterQuests5 жыл бұрын
@@danrazART I think most people like these two films
@darkskinwhite4 жыл бұрын
you dont feel like the last decade of superhero movies have almost all been a "cheap wow moment"?
@spike54992 жыл бұрын
@@darkskinwhite no
@maxhydekyle24255 жыл бұрын
"Google?" "NOOO we had actual physicists!"
@amanooelalkpa56735 жыл бұрын
@@privatetrash2810 In physics things get disproven a lot.
@mattbins5 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@maxhydekyle24255 жыл бұрын
@@privatetrash2810 I don't think they could've really made that scientifically sound.
@emor61005 жыл бұрын
The guy on the left seemed like he didn't like the time travel, but rolled with it
@maxhydekyle24255 жыл бұрын
@@emor6100 Well it's not like we actually know how/if time travel works. As long as it makes sense in that world that's all that really matters.
@lenchenes5 жыл бұрын
Im no writer, but it's interesting to see how these writers come up with the twist and turns of story. They deserve views not only the directors and actors but these writers as well
@oldDNU5 жыл бұрын
They make such a key statement towards the end of the video: we don’t necessarily react to the events as much as we do the characters’ reaction to them. I know people who weren’t impressed with the snap because they knew all the dusted people would return. We all knew they would, but those of us who were devastated were emulating the feelings of those who didn’t know that, primarily, the surviving characters. It’s like a weird hybrid of suspension of disbelief and empathy.
@samwallaceart2885 жыл бұрын
Shoutout to Trin Tran for (even indirectly) suggesting Thanos’ pre title card death. Made the movie.
@anketicable5 жыл бұрын
I'm just impressed at how diligently they worked on it. Each scene had been rewritten at least five times by the beginning of 2016, only to keep working on it till early 2019. Christ that is commitment. No wonder they nailed it.
@laurenwrties68085 жыл бұрын
Then isn’t it crazy that some people haven’t even seen it a second time because they were so angry and disappointed in the first?! Like they haaate Endgame
@hirvale5 жыл бұрын
@@laurenwrties6808 There is always that less than 1% of people that dislike anything that's popular. Ex: Not a single popular video on KZbin has 0 dislikes.
@mathiyanz5 жыл бұрын
@@laurenwrties6808 Endgame is the #1 film of all time in terms of box office. It wouldn't have done that without repeat viewings.
@mathiyanz5 жыл бұрын
@@g.a.r3058 Good planning.
@fupalover5 жыл бұрын
@@mathiyanz They also rereleased the film in order to get it there.
@srikaneator5 жыл бұрын
Next up: Marvel writers explain how they wrote "FAKE" scripts to prevent spoiler leaks.
@ZebulonJames5 жыл бұрын
This comment deserves more likes.
@NightmareCourtPictures5 жыл бұрын
word tho lmao
@UmbraKrameri5 жыл бұрын
Marvel writers explain how they convince their actors that they're reading the real script 5 times in a row. XD
@martino69255 жыл бұрын
I think I’m very much in the minority of this but act one of endgame might be my favourite. You want to talk radically different mcu... that first act was beautiful to me and I’ve never heard people react in a theatre to three small words and I probably never will as much as “five........years...later”
@heretustay5 жыл бұрын
same. the time jump was a huge surprise and worked perfectly.
@erads21855 жыл бұрын
I'm really annoyed that I searched up what happens at the end of the comic because I knew there was a time jump, it ruined that surprise for me.
@antoniobrooks4745 жыл бұрын
Yeah the first 45-60 minutes of pure character growth is superb. Some of the finest acting and writing in the MCU
@martino69255 жыл бұрын
Antonio Brooks I completely agree. The part between cap and nat in the avengers headquarters is so well done by everybody. Directing acting everything.
@askekrogh1375 жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree. 2/3 if the movie wasn't special to me, but the first 1/3 was great. IW is still the best tho, imo
@OfficialNoCoast5 жыл бұрын
Ok but I kinda wish this was one of those hour long videos.
@mikey-dh9bw4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@CousinsTV1005 жыл бұрын
They really just gave us an Outline on how they made the MCU. This is Amazing!
@thecontainerthecontents68895 жыл бұрын
they did a good job, juggling so many characters and plotlines. Infinity War especially was impressive, start to finish.
@CreationSGame015 жыл бұрын
I’m tired of hearing people complain about a certain character not being in the movie that much. If people were truly paying attention they would know that regarding certain characters (Captain Marvel/ Black Panther), they would know that it’s not their story. The movie isn’t about them but about the end of the original 6 Avengers.
@awaloumohammad5 жыл бұрын
Looper & Watchmojo will use this to come up with some very dumb clickbait Theories.
@mrmushin15 жыл бұрын
So true
@Jbluez15 жыл бұрын
So block them. Easy. lol
@jeffbolt37575 жыл бұрын
Mohammad Ibrahim true
@AndresGarciaMovies5 жыл бұрын
Even more Looper than any one else.
@carlosmuller35655 жыл бұрын
I can already see it now “*TOP 10 THINGS YOU DIDN’T KNOW ABOUT END GAME*”
@JDotWill5 жыл бұрын
As an aspiring writer, I’m buying that Screenplay book
@1MinuteFlipDoc5 жыл бұрын
the key take-away isn't the framework but how the screen play is a collaborative project at the big studio level. it's a lot of "right to left" writing where you are given the actors, status of the characters, budget, and schedule and have to collaborate with the marketing department and studio heads to figure out the best script. none of this "I took 6 months to write a masterpiece screenplay" business. that stuff is for indie movies.
@ScriptSleuth4 жыл бұрын
Just goes to show: the audience isn't dumb. They always appreciate a good story no matter what.
@drew33995 жыл бұрын
I love how they break this down, there is power in the process and it was perfectly well done
@qcrew29385 жыл бұрын
I still cant believe how emotionally impactful they were able to make these 2 films..... Amazing job
@user-vc5rp7nf8f5 жыл бұрын
this is what good writing is. not killing off characters for shock value or emotional manipulation, but building up characters until their death finally serves as a tribute to a historied journey
@qtasma5 жыл бұрын
9:00 one of my favourite scenes in the movie
@Quotenwagnerianer5 жыл бұрын
I really doubt the validity of having test audiences when complaints like "The first part is slow" still come up. I loved that it started so slow. Marvel movies have been all so one dimensionally focused on the heroes journey to the next asskicking and success. It was the best thing that Endgame didn't do that and mused quite a lot about their defeat at first. It is what makes a decent movie into a great movie where the emotional payoff is the highest. And if the average test audience member can't see that.... then get rid of test audiences!
@Maleick5 жыл бұрын
elites of the elites in those screenings. They wanted mach speed but wasnt the point of this one. Now if Black widow is mach speed OH YES please
@alexka25195 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this talk of these two writers. I found out so much. Now it became clear to me how important Hulk was in Endgame. If he would just have been the smashing Hulk, he would not have cooperated during the scene, where he snaps to bring back the vanished lives. Being the only one, who won’t die of this immense amount of gamma radiation, the scene just felt even more powerful, where they gathered to say goodbye to Tony Stark. Tony died due to this immense power of the stones. You can see the Hulk, standing there, these wounds not having recovered, and thinking, what Tony did in order to save everyone. That gives Tony’s life full meaning, as the writers have said about his death. That’s a meaningful role for the Hulk, in my opinion.
@summertyme57485 жыл бұрын
The writers put the explanation for Hulk and Thor in the film, although the complainers didn’t get it. [they never get anything though, so...] Thor’s mom Freda says: The measure of the hero is to succeed in being *who they are* .... “Not in who they are ‘supposed’ to be”. When someone says Hulk was *supposed* to have a rematch with Thanos, Frieda’s wisdom is what they are not getting. Professor Hulk is *not* driven by a personal need to vent rage, or seek revenge. That’s *not* who he is anymore. The viewer can accept that or not, doesn’t matter because he is who he is, not who you want him to be.
@alexka25195 жыл бұрын
@Summer Tyme That is really good, a very powerful phrase. I think such an attitude is very life-changing for people. Good film-writing, thanks for your comment!
@tuckamania76 Жыл бұрын
Last summer the Russos admitted they intentionally benched the Hulk because they had no interest in the character, so its no secret anymore, they intentionally wasted the Hulk in both movies, and gave him the snap in Endgame just to give him something to do. The Hulk didn't have a single big action moment in either film, while the others got more than their share of glory. No Hulk fan alive was satisfied with just seeing him snap in the two biggest Marvel movies ever made, that did not cut it. There absolutely no excuse to not give the Hulk a big moment in one of the final showdowns. It was inexcusable.
@ScoobyandShaggy55545 жыл бұрын
I’ve watched almost every interview with these guys, I love their writing. So glad you made this video! I want them to release the Infinity War and Endgame scripts.
@ILoveRavenclaw95 жыл бұрын
@JJ Broadcast I mean, you can like both. These guys are good writers, best in their genre, of course there are better screenplays out there, but it's not "wasting time" if you study these ones too. It's not like these are Bayformers or DCEU movies, the MCU, especially the ones written by these guys, usually have actual thought and heart put into them
@anutshell24265 жыл бұрын
@@ILoveRavenclaw9 , you mean movies like Thor The Dark World, which was written by these two? Which was so bad, every major person involved in that movie said it wasn't good.
@ILoveRavenclaw94 жыл бұрын
@@anutshell2426 Except that wasn't their baby, they've said it themselves. They were called in to do last minute script fixes, the majority of the script wasn't written by them
@anutshell24264 жыл бұрын
@@ILoveRavenclaw9 yes, it was. They have the main credit for the screenplay along with other writer. Means they wrote the shooting script with plot points and dialogue. Putting blame on others for your mistakes is a cowardly thing.
@themadtitan76035 жыл бұрын
17:43 See this what people misunderstand, audiences were emotionally impacted at the end of Infinty War because of the implications it meant for the characters and the universe and seeing their favorite characters suffer for their failure not because people genuinely believed they're permanently dead (alteast not most people).
@shassafrass17705 жыл бұрын
Just Stephen McFeely saying "on your left" makes me well up. What great writers, what amazing scene.
@ibrahimadabo94175 жыл бұрын
Putting the Hawkeye's family disappearing scene in the beginning of Endgame was so smart. It put you right back when IW left while showing a new scene. It would've been really weird to just see Hawkeye at the end like this. These guys ara AMAZING !
@themadtitan76035 жыл бұрын
Yeah would've took me out of the movie.
@hugos25735 жыл бұрын
Think about it. All the way back to The Winter Soldier these guys were writing everything. That is fkn cool. These guys are my heroes.
@Matthew-dg6le5 жыл бұрын
HugoS they wrote first avenger and Co-wrote Thor dark world
@wholelottastairway85 жыл бұрын
Yea edit this, they started during Captain America: The First Avenger, and didn't write "everything". They wrote Captain America: The First Avenger, Winter Soldier, co-wrote dark world (tried to save it), Civil War, Infinity War, and Endgame
@wilberforce955 жыл бұрын
Such a bold move to write a movie with billions of dollars hanging on it to end in a tragedy, then have the audience wait a long time, then have the 1st half of the next movie be all depressing set up. but it worked so well. good job guys
@CabezasDePescado5 жыл бұрын
endgame is a bad movie though
@siva251435 жыл бұрын
@@CabezasDePescado no its not
@zackgravity72845 жыл бұрын
@JJ Broadcast the final fight was incredible for one and the characters were very compelling? The comedy was great and entertaining, and they gave the story good stakes. Why did _you_ enjoy it?
@Patrick-te3cr5 жыл бұрын
@@CabezasDePescado it's not a bad movie by any means, but its definitely disappointing if you're looking at what came before, there was just no way they could top infinity war, so of course endgame would never measure up.
@symbiotic-man80215 жыл бұрын
@Et Cogito Ergo Sum You are in a very small minority DC fanboy.The proofs are overwhelmingly undeniable.
@shailu2105 жыл бұрын
I love how they came with an idea of a rat saving the whole universe. 😂
@mividamoca9455 жыл бұрын
If you think about it. There are many rats after the snap because all the government services are gone. It was bound to happen .
@urki62375 жыл бұрын
@@mividamoca945 but 50 % of all rats also disappeared so..
@wholelottastairway85 жыл бұрын
@Leo rats procreate really fast
@maxhydekyle24255 жыл бұрын
@@wholelottastairway8 ya they'd be back to 100% in like weeks and be incredibly invasive within months.
@CabezasDePescado5 жыл бұрын
yeah i know, the script was terrible
@sabahbubbler5 жыл бұрын
It's amazing even at their level that made the biggest blockbuster of the decade used Syd Field's screenwriting book
@johnathonhaney82915 жыл бұрын
Go with what works.
@TigerKungFu6705 жыл бұрын
This is such a good and informative video for all fans, thank you
@braedenmartin85965 жыл бұрын
I’m so glade they flat out said that captain marvel coming in and saving everyone is bad writing me and friends we’re wordy about that for almost a year
@johnathonhaney82915 жыл бұрын
I knew better and you guys should have as well. While MCU made missteps in their early days, they were never going to blow the landing THAT badly, especially after they saw Justice League make that mistake with Superman.
@Ajaxxx5 жыл бұрын
This was extremely insightful and fascinating. Kinda wish it was longer.
@johnnyhogan58802 жыл бұрын
That's what she said
@geraldskywlkr25565 жыл бұрын
"Its not when people die that is sad for the audience. Its when the people that are left behind have to react to it." *Shows Cap crying* Why do that to me..
@kevinnevada53425 жыл бұрын
Tony's been willing to sacrifice himself since avengers 1. Just saying
@humansnotbots-y8l5 жыл бұрын
SPANKSY Longbottoms very true I completely forgot about that
@Joneedance5 жыл бұрын
That's true! What they did in Endgame was just a small tweak--This time, he was willing to sacrifice his future with his wife and little girl. To sacrifice getting to raise her and see her grow up, which is impactful in a different way
@kevinnevada53425 жыл бұрын
@@humansnotbots-y8l yup. They make you think they just thought it up. 👆
@kevinnevada53425 жыл бұрын
@@Joneedance yeah... I see your point.... He had more on the line in endgame. So it meant more.
@AdjacentJustice5 жыл бұрын
He's been willing since Iron Man 1 with making Pepper overload the big arc reactor with him on top of it. The differences are: this time it wasn't heat of the moment they gave him time to think about it, he had far more to live for than before, and it wasn't a risk or gamble-- he was absolutely definitely going to die. He was always a hero, but Endgame made him THE hero.
@erial.c90025 жыл бұрын
I just love how Steve and Tony's character arc has an interrelationship That's so cool and possibly a great full stop for their own story
@mackenziep40364 жыл бұрын
I feel like the hardest part about being a writer to such a big franchise is knowing what’s going to happen in 2020 in 2015 and having to keep your mouth shut😂
@maxhydekyle24255 жыл бұрын
I love that writing process so much! No wonder the MCU is so good!
@andrewashford2915 жыл бұрын
@Tommy gibstain Why wouldn't he? Marvel makes outstanding films
@johnathonhaney82915 жыл бұрын
@Tommy gibstain You mean film snobs, actually, who, like that pack of incel comic nerds, are so desperate for status that they need some measure of reflected glory to have an identity. I find both groups singularly unimaginative and unimpressive, little better than groupies hoping for validation that's likely never coming.
@ZachBobBob5 жыл бұрын
This really made up for the lackluster bonus features on the actual bluray
@windso8785 жыл бұрын
When Iron Man died you could hear people sobbing. Even little kids. When Superman died it was like 'meh' and nobody cared.
@lukeevans60705 жыл бұрын
Other way around for me
@sriramk82695 жыл бұрын
Yeah it only took 49208402 movies to buildup that moment
@rohanmiscrits5 жыл бұрын
I think WB will get it right the next time. I'm just glad they're letting film makers with a vision tell their stories with great characters (Reeves, Phillips etc)
@hirvale5 жыл бұрын
@@lukeevans6070 You cried when superman died in BvS? I have a hard time believing that.
@edabakb5 жыл бұрын
10 years of connection vs 2 movies. That comparison doesn't seem fair.
@bronsoncs5 жыл бұрын
The end of an era. What a ride it’s been
@manqobashongwe13015 жыл бұрын
Scorsese: Marvel movies don't take risks, have no character development... aren't cinema. Markus & McFeely: ...
@Samanosuke11385 жыл бұрын
There was a collective tearing up of the audience in my screening of Endgame when the movie opened and Hawkeye lost his family..
@mapauquesada5 жыл бұрын
I'VE WAITED FOR THIS MY WHOLE LIFE
@rowni4 жыл бұрын
Dammit they knew what they were doing to us at the beginning of Endgame 😭 poor Clint suddenly losing his family without explanation
@qorirazzani22985 жыл бұрын
Christoper Marcus and Stephen Mcfeely is the guy who made mcu film Legendary
@beinerthchitivamachado8745 жыл бұрын
These two are THE REAL MVPS of the MCU.
@liedjesmaster5 жыл бұрын
That moment when they show Cap with tears in his eyes made me tear up again :(
@KarinaHunter5 жыл бұрын
WOW! What a tool to have access too for writing anything! Thanks to the writers for being so open and candid about their process, thanks to Vanity Fair for realizing how awesome this is to share with people. Just great!
@Des_Zee5 жыл бұрын
These guys know how to end a series unlike those game of thrones writers.
@livelyrook76055 жыл бұрын
Exactly I feel like watching GOT was not worth it but worth it!
@kyle89715 жыл бұрын
Passion vs. Paycheck.
@skennedy18935 жыл бұрын
@JJ Broadcast The last 4 seasons were actually kinda trash.. everyone was drinking the kool aid but had enough with the last 2 seasons as that was it.
@zackgravity72845 жыл бұрын
@@skennedy1893 yeah the writing started to go downhill after season 4 and thet themes and meanings were kinda betrayed in the later ones. They started killing off characters for mere shock value or convenience rather than to push the story and characters forward.
@barry23495 жыл бұрын
There writing has more deeper layers then any mcu movie mate
@truepotential2065 жыл бұрын
These guys are epic. Thank you for telling such great stories
@mjc71724 жыл бұрын
"Its not when people die that is sad for the audience, its when the people left behind had to react to it" WE KNOW YOU DID IT INTENTIONALLY
@summertyme57484 жыл бұрын
Yes. You seem to be implying that the job of a story is to make you feel good at the end.
@davidfromsouthpark90235 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, Infinity War is the most cohesive movie than Endgame. I dont know why but I can watch more IW than Endgame.
@dadwithtourettes5 жыл бұрын
Imo it is a couple of things, one in particular is the bad guy "wins", they weren't shy about ending on a sad note unlike most movies where the good guy prevails. Another is the pacing, for me, was perfect. Open with Thanos, beats up hulk, we go to earth, a little back story, and then boom we're in outer space and it just keeps going. Loved every second of IW
@davidfromsouthpark90235 жыл бұрын
@@dadwithtourettesI feel the same way
@matthewtetley70485 жыл бұрын
i think endgame felt like it missed a few scenes when ant man returned and in the creation of time travel, perhaps the time of the movie cut it, but that section seemed to miss a few tiny beats. Script still was top notch, far better than justice league ever was with an hour less of script needed. If we have only nitpicks it deserves to be at the top of the box office.
@justicehiggins29635 жыл бұрын
Yeah I feel like IW was perfectly paced tbh but endgame wasn’t as good pacing wise but had amazing character interactions which is what mad it so good for me
@CabezasDePescado5 жыл бұрын
Infinity War is a flawed but actually good and coherent movie, endgame is just bad
@filmtoppings5 жыл бұрын
I love seeing them break down how the script is able to land. Not everyone watches it and considers how much planning needed to be made in order for the story to be so effective
@VultureClone5 жыл бұрын
I swear, how so many people still can't grasp why a movie might be slow in parts is infuriating. It's like they've never heard of character development or setting the mood. I think they're the kinds of people who would get the most enjoyment out of watching Transformers or some Fast and the furious movie.
@Nobody1345 жыл бұрын
So are the fake scripts just a compilation of all the cut ideas?
@armandogalindo74125 жыл бұрын
Probably or very early drafts
@emmat41583 жыл бұрын
19 minutes of Christopher Markus on my screen = 19 minutes of hope. hubba hubba!
@azir13723 жыл бұрын
agreed!!! you summed up my thoughts perfectly! What a man
@gabbyg26425 жыл бұрын
I love this so much its so amazing to see how ideas become reality
@freddyspurscowboys63795 жыл бұрын
Infinity war, endgame, civil war, winter soldier. Wow, they could die tomorrow and be proud they accomplished greatness.
@Cuero185 жыл бұрын
Sounds so easy, just like that
@chasehedges67755 жыл бұрын
It's a lot more complex than you might think. I'm an aspiring writer and let me tell you, I can totally understand that writing takes a lot of time, planning, and effort to do. -- A guy who likes to write and think.
@Rhb9895 жыл бұрын
Chase Hedgee r/Woosh
@mokekr5 жыл бұрын
It aint easy tf u smoking
@Loyal_Lion5 жыл бұрын
They worked on these scripts for YEARS - how is that easy? What a weird comment...
@Loyal_Lion5 жыл бұрын
Tommy gibstain Why don't you go ahead and write us a movie script then if it's so easy? Should only take you like an hour, right?
@senthil99nathan5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Vanity Fair for such an insightful interview! This could mean a lot to many of the aspiring writers around the globe.
@omeraamirshahjee2 жыл бұрын
Not biased on/against MCU. I'm script writer plus film fanatic. You guys nailed it with Avengers Endgame, like you guys nailed and paid off the past decade of MCU perfectly. Wasn't cheesy at all the call backs nothing was red conned even with the time travel everyone knew that's your only option/solution after infinity war. I and all like minded ppl agree, nothing ever will ever come close to being that perfect of cinema and joined storylines, the pay off to all of that, never again will that be achieved again, not even by marvel themselves
@shuvojyotisaha557511 ай бұрын
Fr bro.
@jakewhiston64615 жыл бұрын
“How did you figure that out?” “Google” “Nooooo”
@tofu_golem5 жыл бұрын
I wish the regular Hollywood people would learn that one of the things that makes these Marvel movies so good is that the characters have real character arcs instead of being the same person in every movie.
@rowni4 жыл бұрын
In order for Steve to live his best self is to get a life, and for Tony to live his best self is to lose his. Man 9 months later and that still hurt 😭
@michaelcain93245 жыл бұрын
This was awesome! Is there an unedited long cut? I-and I’m sure many others-would love to see it/hear it.
@StrifeLeeSimpson5 жыл бұрын
I never heard the Russo's talk about these guys, I wanna see the four of them talking together.
@incredibilistic5 жыл бұрын
I mean...wow! That was amazing and just makes me love and appreciate all the effort they put into this universe. I got chocked up as they were talking about getting chocked up and, maybe for the first time, began thinking about how each character felt seeing their best friend disintegrate into dust before their eyes. Yes, time travel is incredibly messy but that doesn't change the fact that Mr. McFeely and Mr. Markus gave us a film series like no other. Something that's never been done before and likely won't ever be done again, not even by Marvel/Disney.
@yagges5 жыл бұрын
this was actually pretty interesting tbh
@commentcopbadge66655 жыл бұрын
"actually"? "tbh"? Your presumption was this to be boring or uninteresting?
@yagges5 жыл бұрын
@@commentcopbadge6665 well im not a die hard marvel fan i just clicked on this to kill some time but i liked it
@fupalover5 жыл бұрын
Go watch DB
@commentcopbadge66655 жыл бұрын
Marcus Rondo What's "DB"?
@harrisont20043 жыл бұрын
Also I love that they have respect for Back to the Future. And they’re not stroking their egos with the time travel like they acknowledge that they didn’t wanna be patting themselves on the back. I’ve suddenly realised how much I respect these guys.
@jaclpz5 жыл бұрын
This was awesome. I love you guys 3000. Thanks for all the MCU movies you’ve written. Hopefully you’ll write for MCU some more.
@Patrick-te3cr5 жыл бұрын
Hopefully write more like Winter Soldier and Infinity War and less like Endgame.
@OhYeah101005 жыл бұрын
There has never been a movie series until the MCU that A lasted so long (incredible) and B CAPTIVATED the world. Every movie felt new and fleshed out with individual care. Which is why I love the MCU to this day :)
@justmindset5 жыл бұрын
What astounds me is the amount of attention the writers have gotten for this. Thats something you dont usually see with films. Most of the attention is usually on the directors or actors.
@RAZAEM Жыл бұрын
Please, write Kang Dynasty and Secret Wars. Please please please
@esteemcnaughton7555 жыл бұрын
12:44 That was exactly my thought. You wonderful bastards
@henrique88t5 жыл бұрын
Boy, I didn't expect it to be this insightful. Thanks for this interview.
@RIXRADvidz5 жыл бұрын
Thanos will always be Josh Brolin. I look as I don't see Thanos, I see Josh Brolin. 1:33
@kyle89715 жыл бұрын
Every actor has their "iconic" character. RDJ is Iron Man. Josh Brolin is Thanos. Ryan Reynolds is Deadpool. Huge Jackedman is Wolverine. Anthony Hopkins is Hannibal Lecter. Sometimes an actor and a role are made for each other.
@themadtitan76035 жыл бұрын
Facts his performance as Thanos is legendary.
@sophiemunro15875 жыл бұрын
What Stephen and Christopher said about "It's not when people die that is sad for the audience. It's when the people left behind have to react to it." is so true, when I watched endgame and saw Tony die I had tears in my eyes but I only lost it when I saw Peter break down. These guys are so talented and this video is so useful and interesting especially when I want to hopefully write a Marvel film one day.
@OmarLopez-to2hc5 жыл бұрын
Thanos is the new generations Darth Vader. It's going to be a long time before we have such a powerful presence.
@SKD725 жыл бұрын
Completely agree, the best villain since Heath Ledger's Joker. Thanos is a villain who believes he is doing the greater good, doesn't lie and doesn't kill for the thrill but only when necessary. He has a wrapped sense of morality but he has a code and inspires loyalty in very powerful henchmen/henchwomen and most importantly he is 100% committed to a cause. He took it as an insult that the Avengers sought to undo what he was going to do. Basically saying, "they just don't get it. I have to do this." And on top of all that, he was extremely powerful. He was the best choice compared to Loki, Galactus, Dormamu, Magneto, Ego, Dr. Doom or any other Marvel villain. He will define what a great villain is for a generation.
@Demystificator5 жыл бұрын
Til October when Joker will be released.
@Diamond-gk1ec5 жыл бұрын
@@Demystificator lol yeah most likely
@barry23495 жыл бұрын
Nah joker is
@eliseerickson59945 жыл бұрын
It's actually really satisfying that they didn't have the whole thing planned all along. It's cool that they had to wing it and come up with a creative way to save the day just like the heroes of the story did.
@rorylennon40435 жыл бұрын
Do people here prefer Infinity War or Endgame?
@movieloverchannel71895 жыл бұрын
infinity war is 10/10 but endgame don't deserve 10/10 it is 3000/10
@Diamond-gk1ec5 жыл бұрын
@jockadoobee yeah endgame was alright I hate how they did thor and hulk.
@kunaii_cs5 жыл бұрын
I prefer Winter Soldier 💪.
@joelmiller26015 жыл бұрын
Infinity War >>>>>>>>>> Endgame
@samwallaceart2885 жыл бұрын
Infinity War is retroactively made better by Endgame. Spiderman being dusted really threw me off of Infinity War’s ending and only guaranteed that everything would be reset later. Endgame made that worth it though. Now that both are complete, I’d say Infinity War is the more dramatic, best of the MCU, but Endgame is the most satisfying. Like comparing Empire Strikes Back to Return of the Jedi.
@amiciprocul85015 жыл бұрын
"It's not when people die that is emotional for the audience. It's the reaction of the people around them." I think in this very special case, seeing Iron Man pass was the emotional beat because he's been on the big screen and in our lives for so long.
@a1a8465 жыл бұрын
In this case though, the people around them WERE the audience!
@AntonDubious5 жыл бұрын
Thanos did some good things with the snap, too. Half of all politicians, lawyers and telemarketers disappeared.
@AntonDubious5 жыл бұрын
@Julia Mimi You must be hilarious at parties.
@princekyle41325 жыл бұрын
Markus and McFeely are absolute legends. I know it’s definitely not gonna happen, but I wish they’d win Best Adapted Screenplay at the Oscars for Avengers: Endgame.
@REaDComicsau5 жыл бұрын
Phenomenal. Everything. Phenomenal
@Diamond-gk1ec5 жыл бұрын
It was alright infinity war was 10 times better
@REaDComicsau5 жыл бұрын
OMG curse me for having an opinion that is wrong because it is not the same as yours
@Loyal_Lion5 жыл бұрын
Diamond Are you sure it wasn't 9000 times better?
@midasgrey31715 жыл бұрын
I would looooove a writing partner but it's so hard to find a right fit like these guys clearly did.
@SunnyBear5 жыл бұрын
these guys are quite clever
@LostinaMemory5 жыл бұрын
These two are incredible! I’ma use some of their techniques for my next music video!
@shutup95055 жыл бұрын
They had real physicists for a Marvel movie?!
@lizz98965 жыл бұрын
big-budget movies usually do this. like for disaster world ending types, or time travel or futuristic ones. either for the screenwriter, worldbuilding or the sfx (cgi) department. it makes the experience better
@siva251435 жыл бұрын
They got astrophysicist named Adam frank
@joefilmco4 жыл бұрын
Man this entire video is captivating. Thanks for putting this together!
@tiberiusrex51885 жыл бұрын
And this is what d&d needed to learn for season 8 of Game of Thrones.
@mrmushin15 жыл бұрын
They couldn't. Tv shows goes at a faster pace
@timli415 жыл бұрын
@@mrmushin1 i actually believe tv shows go at a slower pace since they have a lot more screen time for characters to develop and progress than movies d&d sped things up too much in the last 2 seasons (maybe cuz they want to move onto other projects) such that the character motives are not well explained and things built up for multiple seasons just collapse in an instant
@simianinc5 жыл бұрын
jacob harris They skipped a whole year so they could tell GoT right and it still stunk. The fact is for four seasons it was brilliant even though it was TV. D&D just lost their way
@rowni4 жыл бұрын
These are the guys Star Wars should've hired for the writing of the sequels. So thoroughly planned out. Absolute geniuses. These writers and moderators deserve so much credit. They made my whole decade so full of excitement ans anticipation for everything they had to put out! Cant wait for Black Widow soon!!!