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@adrianw.a.93843 жыл бұрын
It's confirmed. Tyler is a psychic. I just started working on a story with two protagonists!
@sadyoshhours27693 жыл бұрын
Me too lmfao
@lifeisgolden76083 жыл бұрын
@lilmil me too lmfao
@Torihappyness3 жыл бұрын
Mines an animated series.
@adrianw.a.93843 жыл бұрын
@@Torihappyness keep working on it! Much luck to you
@puchopro11032 жыл бұрын
Same
@dlumyoung093 жыл бұрын
I think Marriage Story would be another good example of a "Conflicting Protagonists" story.
@jagbirsingh57913 жыл бұрын
You can add Heat on the list.
@mu53143 жыл бұрын
smart......just smart
@janhalouzka85823 жыл бұрын
Name more iconic duo than Tyler and philosophical concept, I will wait
@Seven7198710 ай бұрын
King Clawthorne and Vee Noceda
@nicholaspitti8171 Жыл бұрын
3:30 different than each other same goal. 4:00 take action to change the story 5:20 understand both
@francescovecchione31063 жыл бұрын
I got so addicted to your content that I see this video literally 30 minutes after its release. Holy shit! I surprised myself!
@jessegoonerage39993 жыл бұрын
It can also be worth considering when writing from 2 perspectives can hurt your story. Nerdwriters video on passengers is a good example on how revealing everything to your audience can negatively impact tension and suspense. Its also worth considering what your story is about. Often writers like to have 2 or more characters at the centre because they havent really thought about the theme of their story, and who is fundamentally more important to conveying that theme. Too many perspectives can also make a story harder to follow. If we follow tim going to the store to buy some milk thats pretty clear, but if we also have to follow patricia arranging a divorce, it can become more difficult to follow along with the story.
@odwa20263 жыл бұрын
I've actually been trying to find a vid like this u really been helping wit my writing ur a good guy man
@WoolgathererCinema3 жыл бұрын
I’m currently working on outlining an 80s buddy action screenplay & I was really having a bit of trouble with it. You really came in the clutch today. Thanks!!!
@EaZiiDuzzIt1052 жыл бұрын
I'm doing a kind of buddy action screenplay but with one character being a woman and their relationship being lovingly platonic!
@byakugan21733 жыл бұрын
Scenes from Sleuth and Mysterious Skin. Nice.
@Mangofdestiny72 жыл бұрын
now i'm wondering how to write three co-protagonists
@dir.george54583 жыл бұрын
This is such a coincidence as I’m working on a story with two protagonist also haha
@willadkins13543 жыл бұрын
That’s not ironic, that’s coincidental.
@dir.george54583 жыл бұрын
@@willadkins1354 you're very right
@mai_hai22742 жыл бұрын
Hey how's it going? If you want to tell it to someone I'm here!
@sofiberchenko55253 жыл бұрын
My second protagonist was always like important, but I felt frustrated to make her another main character, because the story itself is more focused on my other character.
@honnashankara36813 жыл бұрын
You kinda read my mind.. This gives a lot of perspective! Thanks for this
@hlzion2 жыл бұрын
I just want to say thank you as your channel helps not just me but a lot of aspiring authors. Wish you the best man.
@vivekchoudhary93013 жыл бұрын
Watching from India 🇮🇳
@akhilshajan73753 жыл бұрын
Mallu
@KillaD553 жыл бұрын
@@akhilshajan7375 Chaudharys aren't mallu.
@therohanexperiment29933 жыл бұрын
@@KillaD55 he didnt say he way
@기임다민3 жыл бұрын
🇰🇷 🌍
@vivekchoudhary93013 жыл бұрын
@@akhilshajan7375 I am from Uttarakhand
@munashemhungu32193 жыл бұрын
You been a great help my guy.
@theversacelife52323 жыл бұрын
I GASPED THANK YOU I’ve been trying to find advise on dual protagonist for so so long omg you’re a saint
@TheNeonWerewolf3 жыл бұрын
Yesss!I've been writing a 2 protagonist story, but I haven't seen anyone talk about this.
@benjaminread52873 жыл бұрын
Good to see another video, simple and informative. I still need to catch up on the podcast, hard to find the time to listen 😂.
@FennyFen_13 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, I’m working on becoming a writer someday and one of my ideas is to create a story involving two protagonists.
@rodannnkekw28663 жыл бұрын
NEEDED THIS. THANKS!!
@RM-uy3yp3 жыл бұрын
I feel like the romance genre does a great example of the duel protagonist narrative. E.g. Pride & Prejudice, Notting Hill etc.
@MinaF993 жыл бұрын
Both those stories don’t have duel protagonists
@singaravelsudeeksha2813 жыл бұрын
I liked it in 'Agent Carter' series when they showed us Jack Thompson and Daniel Sousa (although the main characters were Agent Carter and Jarvis) as there personality were very different from each other and relatable to us... I just wish we would soon get season 3 with Jack alive in it and get a solution to the cliffhanger... BTW, Tyler, how did you post this video at the same time I going to write a story with dual protagonist??? Could you even post a video for multi protagonist and how not to mess up a story/script with multi protagonist? Thank you so much Tyler :)
@ai-man2123 жыл бұрын
LA Confidential is my favorite example of dual protagonists. The two cops start out hating each other. In the end they join forces.
@Tedliftfilms3 жыл бұрын
glad i got this after finalizing my second draft about two protagonists lol
@erickinsey72683 жыл бұрын
Without spoiling the prestige there are. More than 2 protagonist
@midorikia2 жыл бұрын
Great conclusion.
@trinktmalnent77443 жыл бұрын
Searched for such a video a short time ago... and also watched the prestige a short time ago... it's scary...
@benjaminread52873 жыл бұрын
It's amazing that's what it is. Gotta love Nolan.
@aaronaquila18722 жыл бұрын
Cobra Kai is a great example of Dual Protagonists
@alexman3783 жыл бұрын
Dude, how do you do this? How? I’m writing a story right now with more than one protagonist and I was wondering what I could do to make it better, and here you come with this video. Why is it that when I always have some doubts and questions you come out with the exact video I need?
@orangewarm13 жыл бұрын
Interesting topic. There's a theory there can only be one protagonist. Eg if you watch Heat, you might think there are two, but actually, the protagonist is Vincent Hanna. If you watch The Departed you might think there are two, but actually the protagonist is the Matt Damon character. Tropa de Elite also has a similar thing.
@commonsense51993 жыл бұрын
When you mentioned about giving too much of the spotlight on one character over the other. That is one my fears when it comes to writing including my fears of make each character the same person. I want characters the same I want to make each character original and distinct personalities. is okay that some of the characters that are lighthearted and some angry without making them too similar. Like let's say I write a superhero team for a tv show like the number 7, is it too many protagonists? or does a team have to be a "Five-man Band" and I want to know how the interaction and relationship feels natural and organic.
@ManasCITY2 жыл бұрын
My favourite example of dual protagonist is Naruto and sasuke
@vjs923 жыл бұрын
Malayalam film 'Ayappanum Koshiyum' has two conflicting protagonists and the makers had done it so well that we would be confused at many places to root for which one. Throughout, the film constantly questions our morals and righteousness as an audience. A great cinematic experience. The film is available in Amazon Prime.
@seriouslyyyyy Жыл бұрын
I'm a telugu guy....i have seen it malayalam.....the performances of both actors are top knotch....and clever screen writing too....
@bonafide48742 жыл бұрын
How do you know if you need two protagonists, though? Or vice versa, if you need to cut out a 'protagonist'? As in, when does it help to use/ have two protagonists and when does it help/ is important to only have one over having two?
@siddhant98183 жыл бұрын
Good stuff man.
@saucysoy26823 жыл бұрын
May you do a video showing how to write a good movie trilogy??
@charliewilde7011 Жыл бұрын
I bet one of the first movies with two protagonists I watched was the Brokeback Mountain.
@KenyaWright3 жыл бұрын
This is a great channel for writers
@refriedboogie3 жыл бұрын
Candi wants to find Velouria and help him. Mr.Grieves wants to find Velouria as well. One is the adoptive mother and the other is a tortured soul. One seeks their son and the other wants answers. Ultimately they want peace at any cost since they have nothing to lose.
@refriedboogie3 жыл бұрын
Candi was turned into a demon via satanic rituals. She was later turned into a vampire when a family of vampires took her under their wing.
@soulman888 Жыл бұрын
What about say in Cloud Atlas with multiple protagonists/antagonists? Or is there just the one soul (denoted by the shooting star birthmark) running through the whole movie? Thanks for your content Tyler! Always love it!
@riiddisbuk24963 жыл бұрын
I've been thinking of writing something like this for a while. But because of my stress, anxiety and all forms of mental illness I have, I can't write them well ;(
@bunnysenpai74712 жыл бұрын
Okay what about game of thrones now. I am halfway through season 1. So far the stark family seems the protagonist. Jon snow seems to have his own sub plot on the wall. And each family member either acting as a supporting character in some scenarios, also take up major and important roles, have their own quests too. Is game of thrones a collection of sub plots with each having it's own protagonist messed together in an overarching story. Or an extremely complex story with multiple protagonists
@zzzzz75233 жыл бұрын
Could you make a video of how and where can we sell our script? Thankss
@constancegoldwing58673 жыл бұрын
Hey Tyler, what about multiple POV's? (in books). I know we are primarily talking screen plays here, however as a lot of the narrative rules apply in novel formats too, I was wondering what your take on this subject is regarding say, Game of Thrones. Book 1 for example. Eddard Stark is a clear protag, but is Tyrion, John and Caitlin also? Bran, Arya, Sansa and Dany have less 'screen time' in the books but I am wondering how the rule of duel/multiple protags applies or if there is only one clear one when multiple storylines are happening through different character viewpoints.
@mistrae72 жыл бұрын
If I have two protagonists, should I write in first person POV or second person POV?
@nickbarber1003 жыл бұрын
You should have done Boss Baby! One of my favorite kid's movies ever.
@noahyumuk47023 жыл бұрын
Perfect example for conflicting Protagonists is Death Note
@BrandonNinja3 жыл бұрын
Conflicting protagonists is what I'm doing.
@zyxer36102 жыл бұрын
Instantly thought of arcane when reading the title
@VegimorphtheMovieBoy3 жыл бұрын
I got a bit overly ambitious with my first feature and thought I was creating four protagonists. The third and fourth don't show up as much as the first and second. Would that mean they're secondary protagonists or just supporting characters?
@MajorJack922 жыл бұрын
Mortal Engines has "four protagonists" from what I rememebr. You should check it out
@wannabewriter2 жыл бұрын
saw this in recommended and thought "Wow it would be cool to write a story with conflicting protagonists." I was then shut down.
@Seven7198710 ай бұрын
I have reworked my version of Owl House King & Vee (Scrappion King & Scrappion Vee) to be more unique co-protaganists.
@eklipser26273 жыл бұрын
Anybody can answer, but when writing a story with two protagonists how can they follow the 3 act structure? They are literally on two different sides of the same coin. Does the first protagonist have a disaster in the first act followed by the other second protagonist having a disaster in the second act? Do they each have their own disaster throughout the same acts at the same point? Any advice is appreciated
@ravishankarvenus70293 жыл бұрын
Pease, how to write a road movie, please? Thank you
@kemusephking51633 жыл бұрын
I loved it!!!
@saltyghostcrow3 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to write about four main protagonists for a story? I know Sense 8 had eight protagonists but would four main protagonists be easy to manage?
@SkyHakym3 жыл бұрын
Would buddy comedy movies like Monsters Inc/University (or any movie driven by partnership like Mystic River/Sherlock) not count as dual protagonist movies because the spotlight is just a bit more on one protagonist than their buddy? Indeed, the line is quite blurry (and I suppose that’s the lesson to take away- that these dual protagonists movies aren’t built on different foundations from a traditional story).
@anshumanroy15513 жыл бұрын
Love from India 🇮🇳
@anshumanroy15513 жыл бұрын
Yep
@juju10683 Жыл бұрын
Is Lethal Weapon a duel protagonist story or is Danny Glover’s character just a mentor character for Mel Gibson’s character?
@comicbookMadman19 күн бұрын
Leathal Weapon The Nice Guys Deadpook and Wolverine Sherlock Holmes (the movies more than the Tv show tbh) Men in Black II Hobbs and Shaw Kings Speech Good Omens for anyone wanting examples to watch
@polar60662 жыл бұрын
im having an issue where i feel my history has no protag at all lol everyone else has their storyline then the dude is just, there, blank. i was thinking about making something out of that in a meta way but idk
@baxterjaye39843 жыл бұрын
Do these same rules apply when I want to write a story with, say, four protagonists?
@carpetcatco3 жыл бұрын
When you got 2+ protags... :')
@josephlomingo31063 жыл бұрын
Is it necessary for both protagonists undergo the same character arc?
@greggeverman55783 жыл бұрын
Probably not.
@CharroArgentino3 жыл бұрын
Same goal is not the same as same arc, both can walk the same path but reach different conclusions at the end, even if they achieve the same goal, their growth would be different.
@jirayu350a3 жыл бұрын
Should we only have one philosophical conflict in the movie or not?
@quieracollins51272 жыл бұрын
What about romance??
@InSomiON3 жыл бұрын
Two protagonists are Jack and Ashi, right? They were having different style and point of view about life and Aku.
@GustavoSilva-ny8jc Жыл бұрын
0:09 Kick Freud and put Jung there (and maybe Nietzsche on the other side)
@scheduledmaintanence16163 жыл бұрын
Is this the concept of friendship?
@trafalgarlaw83736 ай бұрын
I would say the original definition is very bad. A protagonist in a story is much more defined by being the audience/reader's entry point/POV, even if they are a passive character. Very often in stories the villains/antagonists are the ones actively causing trouble and moving the plot, that doesn't make them the protagonist. The protagonist generally is who the audience follows through the story.
@doublelizard7673 жыл бұрын
Yerv? Is that you?
@MrRabbit-r4b9 ай бұрын
Meanwhile over here I'm writing a story with 3 protagonist-
@film_magician3 жыл бұрын
Dude, you're wrong about shawshank. It's Red's story. 100%. He's the hero.
@TomEyeTheSFMguy3 жыл бұрын
It's Andy's story told through Red. Red is the perspective character. That doesn't make him the character driving the story.
@nuthing88933 жыл бұрын
It's almost as if u stalking me...been working on something similar for the past month
@pedronevesurias23183 жыл бұрын
My story has like eight fucking protagonists... 😐🤔
@mn-ru4li3 жыл бұрын
OMFG!
@TheMalarz19893 ай бұрын
To be honest, that wasn't groundbreaking material. Kinda obvious advices. Good, but obvious.