How UD | UF INTPs Are Inevitable | CS Joseph Responds

[@tiberiusgrey1529]

In my opinion, INTPs "inevitability" stems from their pessimistic functions, both in the ego and the shadow. The sharp Ne parent with how responsble it is with its forsight combined with the Fe in aspirational mode can provide the most efficient choices for anyone to be better. While their shadow reinforces with using their will with Ni critic and principles with Fi demon/angelic to give structure and brings things to reality to what they foresee.

[@oOZanlanOo]

Well said

[@jakeogden2072]

I've been silently praying for an INTP UD/UF video.

[@sonnyboylng]

Where can I take the ud / uf test? Am an intp

[@toaalta]

​@sonnyboylng there's no test, study octagram and figure your type

[@jenniferstone4838]

Sam, I absolutely love listening to you talk about your brother. It brings me to tears when I listen. I enjoy this so much. Your love for your brother is absolutely beautiful. Thank you for sharing such a wonderful human experience. 🦋

[@pelc121]

Thank you for sharing Samwise! Some really great insights. Love the anecdotes, keep living life to the max so we can get more 🙌

[@BookofYAH777]

you didn't answer why UDUF INTP is inevitable. You just described your own life story. But it doesn't mean that UDUF is inevitable for all INTP:s

[@absinthesesotericadventure7631]

thank you, i was trying to say something similar. you saved me time lol

[@PresbianTier]

yeah Samwise is a cool dude but most of his videos i tend to either skip or not pay attention since he usually rambles on.

[@SantanaBanana47]

​​@@PresbianTier Informative be like

[@andychau3522]

UDSF INTP I also didn't talk until I was 4. Went to hundreds of family events. Didn't make one friend or met my first love out of those social gatherings. Sucks bad. Would draw on telephone books, the back of advertisements/white spaces of the page. Eventually learned how to draw realistic portraits. My Fi was also appealed to in terms of performance arts (I had the lowest Fe in my Fe based family and become the ENTJ/sole Fi user). So I thought I was a Fi user my whole life. I went from a delinquent on the verge of getting kicked out of middleschool to a top student/generalist in high school. Servitude/servility is full of making self sacrifices. It's not simply volunteering/helping others. My family sponsored both sides of my family from Cambodia, was used to seeing family immigrants occupy my house before they sought their own. Lack of stability and I didn't have much sibling or parental interactions growing up. I was the garage dwelling gaming INTP hooked on Diablo 2 for years. Life felt so pointless around the family, so I desired to seek meaning by exploring/discovering what was out there.

[@sylviaowega3839]

That is just the way us INTP are. I also didn’t talk till I was much older unlike my two older brothers, like 3, or 4

[@doke6057]

@@sylviaowega3839 sorry, what ? Older than your older Bros ?

[@sylviaowega3839]

@@doke6057 I meant to say that unlike my two older brothers whom talked a lot, I didn’t talk till I was 3-4.

[@annl.5512]

Same I started at 4 @@sylviaowega3839

[@diotimamyrina]

Do you guys mean you didn't talk at all ever until that age or that you did start saying words/learning how to talk normally around the time all kids start, but then decided to stay silent for the most part but still talked a little here and there, like at least a few words a day

[@suzieeheng4666]

Mr.Samwise, (or) Samwise, I remember watched this video you recorded when it was first posted in 2023 New Year. I never realized you have been lifting on your shoulder so much. this video, how INFP overcome failure, what is Ego, Should INTPs learn Pick UP, Why did Andrew Tate Convert to Islam, Why NFPs get away with everything, (all NPs) superego examples, helped me tide through a severe time at the end of 2022 in an inexplicable way. I can’t be more grateful. Thank you, wishing guidance and light beyond the dark, always.

[@emillenial624]

I'm INTP and have a different experience. My mom said I taught myself how to read.

[@honor9lite1337]

We're actually self taught about everything.

[@fsycb]

I am definitely going to turn an ESTP and INTP dynamic duo into a story idea. thx

[@ToddHa]

CSJ typed me as INTP 2 or 3 years ago. I didn't have the art thing. So maybe I'm ego or Sub-Con focused. I'm 51 now, so could be very Sub-Con. But, the not talking for a long time. Yeah, I had that. And my family was alarmed by it. The city Public Schools thought I had some type of learning disability, early on. They put me into the LD program. The city PS gets extra state funding for each child in that program. But they gave me some tests over the years and realized they had made a mistake. They tried to keep me in the LD program to keep the extra funding flowing, but my test scores were through the roof. My 7th grade test results were on the college level. So I got promoted from 7th to 9th grade. And was givin the choice of ANY high school in the city or the county to attend (this included the magnet High Schools ; which had a required lottery-drawing to attend). I would bypass the lottery and they would bus me to any HS of my choice, if needed.

[@sapkakaplan986]

I as a intj allways lose my personality when i meet a new system or concept which I personally find important. It still happens although I am 49 year. I thought it would go over when I was older and more experienced. But no, I still lose personality when I come across a new system idea.

[@jordandavis5387]

At this point thinking intp ud:sf hopefully transitioning into sf😂 I used to sit in school and fill up a journal a month with comics, little short stories, and ancient warfare up to ww2 battle strategies. Never thought that was seen as generative in a way but was glad to know doodling like that wasn't bad😂

[@romain6063]

It’s dark there. Do all intps live in a crypt ? 😂

[@dalidali8631]

Thank you for sharing Samwise I would love to see more your art

[@FFakiha]

Warm tone! Yes! Good job, sam!

[@sylviaowega3839]

It’s just like with my ISTP daughter and I, and INTP. We don’t talk about a lot of things other than surface level conversations. She is even less talkative than myself albeit not as introverted as I am

[@seetsamolapo5600]

How do you contrast introversion with talkativeness? Most people seem to conflate the two

[@mrod8578]

I am super talkative around my nuclear family members when I'm in the mood. Much of the time I prefer alone time but I can pretty much talk any of my siblings or parent's ear off lol. If I had an ISTP brother or sister it would probably be the same even if they were rolling their eyeballs. All they need to do is bring up a subject that I'm interested in to trigger me. 😂

[@mrod8578]

@@seetsamolapo5600 Yeah I can be rather talkative and people seem to think because you can be talkative you're extraverted which is not always the case. I think the main sign of introversion/extraversion is whether you are more likely to initiate discussion (extraverted) or whether you are more likely to respond (introverted). Now because I have done sales, I have learned to initiate because it was a requirement but in most of my life and life in general it is usually another person that initiates discussion whereby I then respond by being talkative. If there isn't someone initiating with me I usually don't speak outside of work where I was literally trained to be initiating. I have always figured if no one is initiating with me, it's not worth my time to talk because I only have so much energy lol.

[@GetYossedLol]

@@seetsamolapo5600 when one is more introverted and talkative, means they rarely talk but when they do, they rant. Which is quite intp. The latter can talk to more people and talk more often but delivers direct speech rather than rants

[@seetsamolapo5600]

@@GetYossedLol perfect explanation. That's exactly what I do. The ranting.

[@ariannam4635]

Bahaha it was so funny to watch your entire demeanor and body language change from 7:50-8:04. Two different sides of you came out. Also what does SD|UF and UD|UF even mean???? Can someone point me in the right direction I think I might’ve missed something.

[@ariannam4635]

Nvm after thinking about it for a minute I realized SD- subconscious developed and UD- unconscious developed.... BUT does UF mean unconscious focused? If so how does this all connect... lowkey confused

[@waicheungli1151]

what's ud/uf short for?

[@22moitrool83]

I was going to ask the same question.

[@hamidousy5460]

Unconscious developed and unconscious focused according to CSJ.

[@midnightblue2893]

Good question I've been wondering the same thing

[@honor9lite1337]

Watch several videos starting last year..

[@jbrendel98]

I'm also autistic, INTP, and what you said about art makes so much sense considering I'm a GIS major (mapping). Basically GIS offers elements that are appealing to logical problem solving and cartographic display principles for the ISFP superego

[@diotimamyrina]

yeah I have an isfp professor who's obsessed with layering symbolic things in maps, arbitrarily drawing things (intuitive observations, meaning people give to things(ni-te), like landmarks) over each other in tracing paper over maps, my only gis professor is an intj, intp mapping probably involves more attention to physical detail

[@jbrendel98]

@@diotimamyrinai think INTP GIS is more about brainstorming abstract solutions for future outcomes like solving logical problems that would allow for the future growth of one's community ie urban planning using Ti/Ne dominant functions. ISTP GIS is probably more what you're talking about, getting more into physical and practical elements and they would probably be more likely to explore ArcGIS Solutions and Utility Networks and Parcel Fabric.

[@diotimamyrina]

@@jbrendel98 ok interesting idk much about gis or the others you mentioned tbh i was talking about mapping in general and confirming that cartographic display is an isfp element and that in comparison intp would care more about attention to physical detail due to si, but of course would be driven by the ne things you mentioned. Yeah istp would be close but would probably be digital and practical while my isfp professor is freehand or graphics

[@jbrendel98]

@@diotimamyrina I mean I guess but my Si child isn't that much detail oriented as much as it is an impulsive eater/buyer 😂

[@diotimamyrina]

@@jbrendel98lmao I get that but still it's an ego function and it's on an axis with ne so it's definitely gonna be used when you do any work involving the senses or physical data, digital mapping is basically putting order in the physical.. you're actually using si even with these comments because you're so focused on gis and your type of environment that at first you didn't see the different areas of physical work/art I mentioned or you did briefly but pushed them to the back of your head and didn't take them into account in your answer (no offense I do the same) .. also I've noticed that in art related projects se often cares about rough outlines and material textures while si cares about sculpting or designing 2d textures

[@juliaadler545]

Why doesnt it matter that all of them are Extraverted Sensors who would have been very compatible with you? Do judging functions matter more with soft locking?

[@CSJoseph]

Depends on gender

[@analytickapsychologie]

18:04 Thank you! You just destroyed my last hope of being an INTP SD. 😄

[@nicholasmendez9108]

Omg a new samwise video! Time for me to go to sleep!

[@iamanintellectual9600]

Have a good rest.

[@nicholasmendez9108]

@@iamanintellectual9600 😴😴😴

[@hamidousy5460]

10:44 Damn! I experienced the same thing. I didn’t talk until the age of 5. 😢

[@matthue9419]

can you tell us what it was like having parents who were subconscious pairs? what was it like growing up around kids who's parents were more compatible? I grew up with the same thing but they were an intp and esfj. I'm infj, for me I felt like I was lesser than my peers in some way, like I wasn't part of the group, or maybe it was just an infj thing but idk,, I don't have a lot to compare my evidence with to verify if it's something I did or what. I've seen good will hunting, I know it's "not my fault" but like.. for some reason I think it would help to know I'm not the only one that felt like that or if something else was going on

[@AriaKlauser]

Does this thing about losing personality also happen to INTJs? My sister adopts her boyfriends' personalities and mostly interests eeeverytime ever since the first one she ever had. xD

[@infdox9051]

INTP is an anti-social hermit robot; I am dating one. Talks only when drunk, like an idiot, while doing other stupid stuff like trying to set the house on fire

[@andychau3522]

When INTPs warm up, some cannot shut up if their life counted on it. If you engage into what they be gluttonous/indulgent/hedonistic about, they can go on and on and on. Warning, giant ass monologs to follow.

[@infdox9051]

@@andychau3522 Gaming, mine wants to game. I don't want to waste my time

[@sylviaowega3839]

Try finding something that your INTP is interested in, and more that likely has several interests, and I guarantee you he will talk a storm wit without getting drunk. I know that as an INTP, I like my date to ask questions and show interest.

[@sylviaowega3839]

Interesting… I have been an artist since I was 5. -INTP

[@infdox9051]

@@austinranly4076 We already had a few physical fights over this. Can't save those who don't want to be saved. I am an INTJ and I hate drug addicts.

[@sylviaowega3839]

I find it so interesting how us INTP’s have such a strong tendency to have ISTP’s in our family

[@akazicool87]

I'm an intp and I have a istp son.

[@creeperkingdom3190]

I have an istp dad

[@charlotte-uh3ye]

yeah my dads an istp

[@iamanintellectual9600]

Funny enough, I think my grandfather (my ISTP dads dad) is an INTP as well

[@honor9lite1337]

Or estp.

[@sylviaowega3839]

That is just the way us INTP’s are! I also didn’t talk until I was at least 3, or 4. That is in spite of the fact that I had two more talkative older brothers, -like my INFJ oldest brother

[@Retrogamer71]

Interesting. The interviewee is very type aware and type progress aware.

[@fsycb]

is UF always always always related to art?

[@charlotte-uh3ye]

i think its caus of this specific superego and the implications of being ud uf

[@elizasaulite4322]

The last part makes sense emotional incest isn't always a thing.

[@liveforyouonly]

I've always wanted an Fe Dom mom.... wild that you still had the Fe inferior negative stuff

[@nabeelmk1804]

Much love to both CS Joseph and Samwise

[@choco1199]

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

[@nicholasmendez9108]

The guard dogs of this channel are disliking your comment and pushing it to the bottom. You are 100% correct and you’ve said it in a respectful manner. The csj guard dogs can’t handle any criticism towards their master. Disgusting animals.

[@isabelledinneweth]

😮

[@emaanalharthy318]

EXACTLY OMG!!! It’s starting to piss me off

[@CSJoseph]

I write every video. Even Samwise’s. Still not what you want?

[@melikanasser5977]

Ur dope Sam wise! Keep being you - INFJ

[@valeriedunn4469]

This is an ISTJ. What a letdown. Good job, Chase.

[@raffagibbard7289]

This was not the easiest video to listen to...l thought it would be more theoretical with small life experience. My mistake.

[@uberchap6934]

I love your “hehehe”

[@Amrrkevin]

For an UD|UF, u talk lot of Si. I'm guessing u r SF|UD. Is Elon Musk an UD|UF INTP?

[@rachaelchalk2642]

Thankyou sam for the video. It was very wholesome.

[@redtape3260]

Samwise is not INTP, he is INTJ The Se is totally there, muted but still there The ud uf could still be true.. I see the ENTP in him clearly

[@forehandjokerrory1597]

Hi Samwise, you have good energy, keep making videos.

[@leprechaun3677]

That intro song is fire; what is it?

[@CSJoseph]

Check the description

[@liveforyouonly]

omg SAME WITH MY ISTP DAD

[@lunahelena5329]

23:07 nice pyjamas :D

[@absinthesesotericadventure7631]

so this is just like a pseudo semi biography of this dude's life i guess 😪 anecdotal and trying to dig for the gold but it's a bit tedious no hate, just get to the point please thanks

[@sylviaowega3839]

Wow! I also have an INFJ sibling, whom is actual my big brother. -INTP

[@midnightblue2893]

Thanks for sharing! 💜 Your sister type, INFP LOL

[@RoseyCreations]

"that's an INFJ" haha rip

[@TheGuyWhoCantPickAName]

7:27 made my day boss

[@cacorn982]

Lol, your stories are funny! Edit: I also was called mute and didn't talk for awhile. My mom wanted to have the back part under my tongue clipped.

[@Samwise108]

Nice cardigan. Completes your look very well.

[@isabelledinneweth]

👍

[@trentonburch7299]

So informative and full of useless filler info, jk 😅

[@juliamorgan4878]

You are so funny!! 😄

[@TaxingIsThieving]

Yawn

[@choco1199]

👍👍👍

[@roblake602]

I've decided that I'm not INTP, after all...

[@roblake602]

ENTP... Like you. Thanks!