How Violin Playing Has COMPLETELY CHANGED in the Last 60 Years

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@angweishuang
@angweishuang 4 жыл бұрын
Vibrato hides the lack of technique Me, a pianist: *smirks in pedal*
@diana_cantabile
@diana_cantabile 4 жыл бұрын
Me, also a pianist: raises both hands and right foot in agreement
@shoshanawolfe7107
@shoshanawolfe7107 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂👌
@YouTubeChannel-nf2nw
@YouTubeChannel-nf2nw 4 жыл бұрын
@@diana_cantabile what? I use me left foot for pedaling...
@imender9219
@imender9219 4 жыл бұрын
R E V E R B
@christianhemingway2807
@christianhemingway2807 4 жыл бұрын
I just wiggle my finger on the key idk it feels right
@nataliedanhof8955
@nataliedanhof8955 4 жыл бұрын
Brett's secret to aging backwards is sticking his head in lights
@f.a.l.-failatlyfe6237
@f.a.l.-failatlyfe6237 4 жыл бұрын
lmao
@jennyli263
@jennyli263 4 жыл бұрын
I’m gonna order one
@ilymeow
@ilymeow 4 жыл бұрын
that's probably why he's so bright
@natewilson111
@natewilson111 4 жыл бұрын
(...and being Asian)
@poigikibobo
@poigikibobo 4 жыл бұрын
@@ilymeow yes he smart boi
@mozartjpn137
@mozartjpn137 4 жыл бұрын
My interpretation is so unique no one hardly recognizes that I play Bach.
@MiaMizuno
@MiaMizuno 4 жыл бұрын
can relate!
@abdlhmdx
@abdlhmdx 4 жыл бұрын
When I play “moonlight sonata” people keep calling it “strangling a cat”
@littleloner1159
@littleloner1159 4 жыл бұрын
@@abdlhmdx my cat sounds better than me
@jessicachen9332
@jessicachen9332 4 жыл бұрын
Same same
@Ciaccona255
@Ciaccona255 4 жыл бұрын
😄😄😄😄
@remg.4075
@remg.4075 4 жыл бұрын
"interpretation is how the musician interprets the music" - Brett 2020
@pottop880
@pottop880 4 жыл бұрын
Klara Marden this should be in textbooks XD
@paulobafi
@paulobafi 4 жыл бұрын
Now everything makes sense
@utharasubhod9828
@utharasubhod9828 4 жыл бұрын
Its like saying People die when they are killed
@GukGukNinja
@GukGukNinja 4 жыл бұрын
Every 60 seconds in Africa a minute passes. Together, we can stop this.
@pukkahut751
@pukkahut751 4 жыл бұрын
"The way a music piece is PLAYED is how a music piece is PERFORMED."
@lefelipe5820
@lefelipe5820 4 жыл бұрын
"interpretation is how the musician interprets the music" Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes
@emlin2005
@emlin2005 4 жыл бұрын
ah yes you see the floor here is made out of floor
@Haramyst
@Haramyst 4 жыл бұрын
They want to include laymen enthusiasts in their viewership. That's laudable.
@interno505
@interno505 4 жыл бұрын
@@ririgawa1665 the argument is lack of data. What population? only that way would work
@indyjoe36ify
@indyjoe36ify 4 жыл бұрын
Haha
@frosteemaria6812
@frosteemaria6812 4 жыл бұрын
I want to like this comment but also want to leave it at 666 likes.....
@zebanon5
@zebanon5 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's important to note that improvements in recording technology might also be driving some of these stylistic changes. Before microphone improvements allowed the subtitles of "crooning" to be recorded with any fidelity, that style of vocals wasn't viable commercially. You get really, really close to this when you mention Elman's performance being "so matter of fact." It was likely performed that way so it could be clear and understandable through old microphones and old radios. Many of the the radios playing that song while it was being broadcast were likely made in the 40s and 50s.
@anna_in_aotearoa3166
@anna_in_aotearoa3166 2 жыл бұрын
Really good point! 😮 I'd love to see a music-focused KZbinr go into detail on that, across different musical styles?
@hetedeleambacht6608
@hetedeleambacht6608 Жыл бұрын
that would explain the abrupt attacks on every note so public could clearly hear each seperate note.... i guess with the audio system then as i hear them indeed it would ve sound like an unclear blur.....what would make you think they would play quite differently live?
@robertgreene2684
@robertgreene2684 Жыл бұрын
There is some point here but it is a mistake to think that the old guys were playing to compensate for anything about recording technology. They were just playing the way they played in the hall. Moreover, the microphones of the early high fidelity era(1950 and 1960) were not in fact at all accurate-- they had nasty higher frequency resonances. I heard these "old guys: live (Grumiaux and Heifetz and Szeryng-- I missed Elman) The recordings are not representative of what was really heard when one heard them live. Actually even today very few recordings really sound like live violin sound. Audio people live in a dream world where they are recording real sound. Fat chance. The microphones are way too close for a start. (We won;t even go into the fact that speakers vary all over the map)
@bzbzob
@bzbzob Жыл бұрын
@@robertgreene2684 Just curious then, after all you said, how was it hearing the old guys live compared to what you hear today?
@anamikabhushan8057
@anamikabhushan8057 4 жыл бұрын
I see they are getting more educational and I'm diggin' it
@phy2sp33
@phy2sp33 4 жыл бұрын
I read this as he was putting his face in the light...lol
@hom2fu
@hom2fu 4 жыл бұрын
two violin nerds making fun of people, but this video is very instructional
@mfalc90
@mfalc90 4 жыл бұрын
Yessss!
@skhoosy
@skhoosy 4 жыл бұрын
sameee
@greatwhitenorthlife2327
@greatwhitenorthlife2327 4 жыл бұрын
And I like that this is liked lol! Hopefully Brett and Eddy listen to their audience! I love the light and funny stuff, but these informative and still comedic videos have real potential to reach audience with education.
@mahboombox7860
@mahboombox7860 4 жыл бұрын
“Rachel Podger is one of the more well-kown baroque violinists.” Ray Chen: *Who’s Rachel Podger?*
@84rinne_moo
@84rinne_moo 4 жыл бұрын
Bahaha deserves more likes than this 😂
@carluy7351
@carluy7351 4 жыл бұрын
haha exactly my thought process as well. Ray dug a 6-feet grave that day
@violintegral
@violintegral 4 жыл бұрын
I prefer Shunsuke Sato, he has amazing Bach and Vivaldi recordings on KZbin. And he won the International Bach Competition as an added bonus. So did Rachel Barton Pine, her Bach is also great.
@MagnificentBaroque
@MagnificentBaroque 4 жыл бұрын
Harrison Loeffler Sato’s recordings are amazing! The best I’ve ever listened to IMHO
@pippaschroeder9660
@pippaschroeder9660 4 жыл бұрын
That’s exactly what I thought of, I half expected them to play that clip 😅
@RainerSchweitzer
@RainerSchweitzer 3 жыл бұрын
I have heard them both in concert, Milstein and Grumiaux. Grumiaux sounded like I had never heard anybody before and never again after. He has left deep traces in my memory. Although it is half a century ago I´ll never forget that sound like a huge soft cloud floating at me. Milstein was very impressing too with his sound as well with his Bach. I don´t believe in the idea of "right" or "wrong" interpretations, nor that a "historic" interpretation would be the only legitimate one. We play modern instruments (even a Stradivari with a longer neck, steel strings, modern Bow, higher bridge...) which require that we play differently from, say, the 18th century. There is a relatively wide corridor of possible interpretation and in the end it is one´s taste and liking as long as it is coherent and convincing. I still like Milstein best.
@jbc1951
@jbc1951 2 жыл бұрын
Grumiaux Sonatas and Partitas are still my Go To performances. The Josef Szigeti performances of the Bach are also something special. He fills a tiny volume of space with the music. It's like watching a candle flame. Very melancholy in a charming way.
@remember9097
@remember9097 2 жыл бұрын
so many languages, and you speak with the true
@charcharluvsu
@charcharluvsu 4 жыл бұрын
My dad: You watch way too much KZbin. Me, watching TwoSet Violin: it’s _educational_
@rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbr
@rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbr 4 жыл бұрын
Omg story of my life 🤣
@vikpdp883
@vikpdp883 4 жыл бұрын
yessir (or ma'am, no assuming genders)
@lalalablackjackies5156
@lalalablackjackies5156 4 жыл бұрын
Except I don't even play violin or have a violin at home
@imhoneygreentea4782
@imhoneygreentea4782 4 жыл бұрын
That's my excuse too , but they actually do teach me things
@laarnierosepayumo567
@laarnierosepayumo567 4 жыл бұрын
@@imhoneygreentea4782 true
@xuanthanh7441
@xuanthanh7441 4 жыл бұрын
" Rachel Podger - famous Baroque specialist " *flashback to Ray Chen asking who was Rachel Podger*
@rockbell
@rockbell 4 жыл бұрын
Ray: "Who's Rachel Podger?" Brett & Eddy: "OOOOOOOOOOH"
@angels5449
@angels5449 4 жыл бұрын
@@rockbell Ray: *confused cute face*
@gracelynriceliasuseno2899
@gracelynriceliasuseno2899 4 жыл бұрын
Why did i laugh at this hahahah
@juwiltgen
@juwiltgen 4 жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHAHAH YEAH!
@rishabhmalhotra4209
@rishabhmalhotra4209 4 жыл бұрын
im new to this channel who are these people
@Phi1618033
@Phi1618033 4 жыл бұрын
As a pianist I can tell you that one of the things that made Glenn Gould famous is that he totally changed the way pianists play Bach. Before Gould, pianists would play Bach the same way they would play Liszt: lots of pedal, lots of dynamics, lots of rubato, lots of legato. But after Gould, pianists play Bach with little to no pedal, more subtle dynamics, and a stricter tempo with clearer articulations.
@paulgottlieb
@paulgottlieb Жыл бұрын
One of the true glories of Bach is that it sounds great in a variety of interpretations and styles.
@christopherlord3441
@christopherlord3441 Жыл бұрын
But the thing is that Gould was playing Bach on an equal temperament instrument which completely changes the melodic lines. He convinced a whole generation that the purpose of the 48 was to demonstrate that it is possible to play in all keys with improved tuning, but it is not true. The idea was to demonstrate music written for the distinctive colours you would get in each key: so Gould's interpretations, though brilliant of course, give a very misleading idea of Bach's intentions.
@johannsebastianbach3411
@johannsebastianbach3411 4 жыл бұрын
No matter how you play it, i sound great Also, Liszt didn’t start the no sheet music tradition. Clara Wieck (Schumann) did when she was a kid. She was a prodigy and people back in the day called her Linglara Lingenhaussen. In fact Robert Schumann was jealous of his wife's capabilities as a pianist, so he wrote pieces that would require large hands so that she couldn't play them. But then he himself couldn't play some things he wrote either, and hurt his own fingers while trying to stretch them with a weird finger stretching device. Back in those days, there were ads like "Do you want a bigger hand and longer fingers? Click here!" and sadly Robert Schumann clicked on them. Which redirected him to a page where there were videos of pianists with big hands fingering chords, and Robert got jealous again and purchased the whole hand enlargement set. I mean, I'm not sure if this is all correct tho. I heard it from Brahms...
@cmbestkey8114
@cmbestkey8114 4 жыл бұрын
Coolio
@Smoph04
@Smoph04 4 жыл бұрын
Clara schumann always gets the crappy end of the stick. Typical that the credit would go to someone else :(
@oliviapereira364
@oliviapereira364 4 жыл бұрын
I didn´t know that! Pls post that on the Liszt Paganini disstrack!
@franceskinskij
@franceskinskij 4 жыл бұрын
oh schumann s wife
@Lucerious92
@Lucerious92 4 жыл бұрын
Clara Schumann was a beast. It’s sad that she’s overshadowed sometimes
@kimberlynakano
@kimberlynakano 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Eddie & Brett: I'm in the ((1))%!!! Born in 1957 and tell all my family and friends to watch you guys. Love your content, always fresh and fun.
@PikkuNoita
@PikkuNoita 4 жыл бұрын
🖤🖤🖤
@richardigp
@richardigp 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Kimberly. I'm your older brother and partner in the 1%. Born in 1951. Grew up listening to a Readers Digest Classical music collection. Played the 12 LPs non-stop (better than doing homework!) TwoSet takes me back to the 60s (not sure they would like to hear that given the subject of this vid!). I am the only person I know who walks around humming Danse Macabre!
@sorayaimperial
@sorayaimperial 4 жыл бұрын
@@richardigp Wow, I'm a new timer (born in 1992), also grew up listening to Reader's Digest classical music collection! Both my father and grandmother had them. My grandma taught me all the composers, I could identify about 50 famous pieces and their composers when I was five :)
@57mamabear
@57mamabear 4 жыл бұрын
Another 1957 here. Also loved the readers digest collection 😃. These lads have reawakened my interest in classical music.
@wakajumba
@wakajumba 4 жыл бұрын
and I thought I was the only boomer who watched.
@Violamanben
@Violamanben 4 жыл бұрын
Rachel Podger is my hero. I’ve had the opportunity to meet her several times, and I was sure to ask about her string set. She uses a Toro E, Gamut A, D, and Pirastro olive G.
@agogobell28
@agogobell28 4 жыл бұрын
I love her Bach Double recording; I listen to it so often.
@blixten2928
@blixten2928 3 жыл бұрын
What in the name of all that's holy are THOSE?
@Violamanben
@Violamanben 3 жыл бұрын
@@blixten2928 Good question. Toro is an Italian company that makes gut strings by hand. You wouldn’t have heard of them unless you use gut strings. Gamut is very similar, but they’re located in the U.S. I’ve spoken with Mr. Gamut before, and he’s a very nice gentleman that takes pride in his work. Pirastro is a German company that makes both synthetic and gut strings. Their most popular string is Evah Pirazzi. I hope that helps. Please let me know if you have any other questions, I manage a small violin shop in Northern California.
@blixten2928
@blixten2928 3 жыл бұрын
@@Violamanben Thank you so very much! Wonderful that you manage a violin shop, perhaps something (remotely) good about the pandemic is that people can turn back to their instruments (and practice)! And I hope videos such as Twosets really spread knowledge and appreciation of the instrument. It's one of the great achievements of human civilisation.
@tonybarron282
@tonybarron282 3 жыл бұрын
All those years playing "early"stuff probably means that Rachel's interpretation of bach is grounded in performance similar to that that of musicians contemporary with him (Ithink of it like a spoken accent) and her beautiful intonation is probably due to natural ability and not having to match discordant equal temperament
@elainewu4955
@elainewu4955 4 жыл бұрын
The curious case of Brett Yang. Aging backwards video by video. I’m guessing by the 3mil drop Eddy will be playing Sibelius with a toddler Brett.
@boardgamefangirl
@boardgamefangirl 4 жыл бұрын
LOL
@KailieCromwell
@KailieCromwell 4 жыл бұрын
It's the Asian genes lol. That, and maybe because he stuck his head in the light. With a LIGHTER mood and a BRIGHT smile, one can seem a lot younger!
@adaliaalvarez7269
@adaliaalvarez7269 4 жыл бұрын
So, does that mean that Brett will TURN INTO a prodigy??
@elainewu4955
@elainewu4955 4 жыл бұрын
Adalia Alvarez yes he’ll become the fetus that can play Pag 24
@euyaakim0313
@euyaakim0313 4 жыл бұрын
@@elainewu4955 😂
@egrseattle463
@egrseattle463 4 жыл бұрын
Maxim Vengerov's interpretation of Sibelius Violin Concerto is the best alive to this day. Also thats your 3M drop 2Set.
@amai_316
@amai_316 4 жыл бұрын
I prefer Augustin Hadelich or emmanuel tjeknavoroan tbh
@physicsjeff
@physicsjeff 4 жыл бұрын
If I may add, his Variations on an original theme (Wieniawski) is sublime! The opening bars give me chills every time.
@santiagoporcino4229
@santiagoporcino4229 4 жыл бұрын
Christian Ferras? Heifetz? J. Bell? Perlman?
@fitzdarragh
@fitzdarragh 4 жыл бұрын
Nah Ray Chen's performance with the Gothenburg Symphony is equal to Vengerov's
@NoferTadros
@NoferTadros 4 жыл бұрын
Vengerov truly is the best
@GregoryRobertsLx
@GregoryRobertsLx 4 жыл бұрын
I am not a musician, nor do I know much of anything about Classical music. Your video just popped up in my Suggested Feed. With that being said, your enthusiasm for differences, what at first listen for me, would have sounded more or less the same, was infectious. It was a joy to see you both have dumbfounded awe at the same spots on something I have zero idea about. Thanks for the smile.
@feralbluee
@feralbluee 2 жыл бұрын
good for you for being so astute! enjoy. :) 🎼🌼
@jpjay1584
@jpjay1584 2 жыл бұрын
same here. I laughed my a** off. just by seeing their reactions and immediately understanding the point. well done!!
@averyesmith
@averyesmith 4 жыл бұрын
“Music brings people together” -Eddy, right before he roasts other musicians.
@kenny-ek9ns
@kenny-ek9ns 4 жыл бұрын
the idea is to laugh at everyone and hate the child prodigies. thats what they mean by music brings people together
@averyesmith
@averyesmith 4 жыл бұрын
uniting people against child prodigies and violists.
@97ohmygod
@97ohmygod 4 жыл бұрын
*after
@susanbryant6516
@susanbryant6516 4 жыл бұрын
They have never hated on child prodigies. Only despaired at their own fate.
@beyzaozbek549
@beyzaozbek549 4 жыл бұрын
Is it only me or Brett is so charming today? It must be because of he is so pureblood. So much classical nerdy stuff makes him even happier lol. Look at him, he has not a deadpan face for the first time LOL.
@imconfused6408
@imconfused6408 4 жыл бұрын
i agree you can see how much he shines when listening to classical music
@sitas9827
@sitas9827 4 жыл бұрын
Haha totally
@johannsebastianbach3411
@johannsebastianbach3411 4 жыл бұрын
Aynen
@xandraxandra1437
@xandraxandra1437 4 жыл бұрын
Beyza Özbek Brett was more talkative in the old day and took the command. Eddy has matured during the years and now talks more than Brett. I have always wondered why. Maybe you have the answer. They haven’t that much pure classic violin music in their videos any more?
@mgoguen7413
@mgoguen7413 4 жыл бұрын
Brett is totally in his element here.
@Ali_Shafai
@Ali_Shafai 3 жыл бұрын
As a listener, though Milstein’s interpretation may be not acceptable in the modern era, but I love the large soundstage and the rich tone that he produces. It almost sounds like 2 people playing. 😃
@MrP_Piano
@MrP_Piano 3 жыл бұрын
I prefer Milstein. I don’t understand how conservatoires are able to dictate how to be creative 🙄 Historically informed performances seem somewhat sterile and pretentious.
@thomaslovse
@thomaslovse Жыл бұрын
I will always rather listen to older recordings (1960’s-1980’s) over today’s recordings. The older ones are much better!!
@maybellelee6315
@maybellelee6315 4 жыл бұрын
Eddy: there goes your music degree Brett: *whole life as a student in music university flashes in his eyes*
@libbyrodriguez
@libbyrodriguez 4 жыл бұрын
Maybelle Lee He looked just like the surprised Pikachu face!!
@xuexueyanyan
@xuexueyanyan 4 жыл бұрын
that moment when reality sets in 😂
@Lullavi_
@Lullavi_ 4 жыл бұрын
I’m starting to believe that Brett gets a crush on any woman who plays the violin well
@nellapenelope3240
@nellapenelope3240 4 жыл бұрын
XD yes!! We have found the romantic strain in Brett at last!!
@paulpedersen1329
@paulpedersen1329 4 жыл бұрын
Who doesn't?
@nellapenelope3240
@nellapenelope3240 4 жыл бұрын
@@paulpedersen1329 other women lol! XD. But it really is just turned around for us.
@PurpleFringe
@PurpleFringe 4 жыл бұрын
Both Brett and Eddy clearly (and justifiably) have a huge crush on Hilary.
@paulpedersen1329
@paulpedersen1329 4 жыл бұрын
@@nellapenelope3240 Some would. 😉
@havocsheart
@havocsheart 4 жыл бұрын
I admit to really liking the old-school approach to the Bach piece. I like the impact and the weight it has.
@etc4725
@etc4725 4 жыл бұрын
Janine playing at the frog still sounds better than me playing in the middle of the bow
@bryanlin8333
@bryanlin8333 4 жыл бұрын
She will sound better than most of us even if she's playing while upside down, hold the bow at the tip instead of at the frog
@icebearisicebear
@icebearisicebear 4 жыл бұрын
Prediction: bretts lofi song will change the whole industry once again.
@user-bp9zj9xs2y
@user-bp9zj9xs2y 4 жыл бұрын
He created a new genre
@abhijitsone6152
@abhijitsone6152 4 жыл бұрын
Totally ᐠ( ᐛ )ᐟ
@jacksbee8809
@jacksbee8809 4 жыл бұрын
Demonic anxiety music
@mochienn
@mochienn 4 жыл бұрын
elpotatochip relaxing study music*
@JiwonAstrid
@JiwonAstrid 4 жыл бұрын
in 2120 people will be reviewing Brett's lofi
@boriswilsoncreations
@boriswilsoncreations 4 жыл бұрын
1:58 Violinist: **plays a chord** Brett and Eddy: **start laughing** Me: **not getting it and starting to feel weird**
@greenisgreenergg2535
@greenisgreenergg2535 3 жыл бұрын
GOT EM
@thatsingingsoul8486
@thatsingingsoul8486 4 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see the memes of Brett's realisation face. 😂😂😂
@oliviapereira364
@oliviapereira364 4 жыл бұрын
Can´t wait to see the recorder players counterattack
@peppermint424
@peppermint424 4 жыл бұрын
Another nerdy episode. I like it. Listening various interpretations are important and also very enjoyable.
@hansmahr8627
@hansmahr8627 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I like their fun and silly videos but my favorites are always videos like this where they focus on the music and show their expertise. I've loved classical music for a long time but I'm still just a layman and so it's nice to hear the perspective of actual musicians. And of course they're still funny and entertaining while doing it. I think this particular format (comparing different interpretations) could become a great series.
@DanielOliveiraViolao
@DanielOliveiraViolao 4 жыл бұрын
Yeap. That's very cool.
@faith11.1
@faith11.1 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not a musician myself actually, but I find their videos entertaining, inspirational, and informative! I want to dabble into playing the violin now :)
@miketackabery7521
@miketackabery7521 3 жыл бұрын
It's good to remember that "old school" playing didn't just pop up out of nowhere: the late 19th and (much of the 20th) centuries were all about interpretation, which became more extreme as the era wore on. Composers expected it of players. I adore "informed performance", but I'm no longer getting caught in the "this is good/that is bad" thinking I used to when I first fell in love with "informed performance".
@msbadkittie
@msbadkittie 2 жыл бұрын
SDxs
@ErikCPianoman
@ErikCPianoman 4 жыл бұрын
5:54 dang calm down. My woodwind friends felt that in their reeds.
@azalea9
@azalea9 4 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@ahnrho
@ahnrho 4 жыл бұрын
Third degree burns. Super effective on woodwinds.
@whalien_translations
@whalien_translations 4 жыл бұрын
my reeds burned into pieces
@Chloe-ze4yy
@Chloe-ze4yy 4 жыл бұрын
Reeding this was so kranji
@GabrielRGomes
@GabrielRGomes 4 жыл бұрын
every time we're running out of air , our mind goes blank hahahahah
@pmichael73
@pmichael73 4 жыл бұрын
Fascinating for one who started the violin in the mid-1950 and heard Menuhin, Milstein, Oistrakh, Ricci, and a VERY young Perlman. Style was passed down through the teachers - starting with the great mid-19th century ones. Remember, there was a long period when Bach, Vivaldi, Handel and others were hardly played, so there was a break in the tradition.
@xandraxandra1437
@xandraxandra1437 4 жыл бұрын
pmichael73 I love that you stand up for your age. All fans aren’t 25 or younger. Twoset have an active and big fan base and it’s all of us together who make this community so great. Also, thanks for sharing your knowledge!
@shespeakslatin
@shespeakslatin 4 жыл бұрын
Wowww that's so cool. Did not know that. Why were those composers not in fashion? Man, gotta look up music history. Thanks for sharing your perspective
@fundorgon
@fundorgon 4 жыл бұрын
@@xandraxandra1437 That's a wonderful comment. I hope you have a great day.
@CarolynOsborne
@CarolynOsborne 4 жыл бұрын
Ricci was the first concert violinist I got to see in concert!
@larrypholbrook
@larrypholbrook 4 жыл бұрын
InTeReStInGlY they posted this on Bob Dylan's Birthday. "The Times They Are a Changing"
@annaliseRS
@annaliseRS 2 жыл бұрын
Please, please, PLEASE make more of these videos. I absolutely love musicians listening to other musicians. The raw emotion they conjure in you both is such a joy to watch and that coupled with your knowledge is an absolute joy.
@debbiemail1
@debbiemail1 4 жыл бұрын
Being a Baby Boomer (yes, some of your viewers were born between 1946 -1964) I've listened to those big changes in interpretation over my lifetime. You guys entertainingly pointed out so many specific details to highlight the passage of time. I hope violin teachers are getting their students to subscribe to your offerings.
@elainethemusician3310
@elainethemusician3310 3 жыл бұрын
I am of the same generation (born mid sixties) and, like you, have lived through the changes. Maxim Vengerov (new school) is one of my favourite violinists but l still love the old school performances of Yehudi Menuhin and David Oistrakh.
@fluffyunicorn57
@fluffyunicorn57 3 жыл бұрын
@@elainethemusician3310 Mid sixties is not the same generation.
@cow_furby
@cow_furby 4 жыл бұрын
As a jazz musician I like the "old school" version of Bach, I just dig the emotions and heavy/thickness of it
@Khayyam-vg9fw
@Khayyam-vg9fw 4 жыл бұрын
It was better than the other two. It had more guts.
@Kimoto504
@Kimoto504 4 жыл бұрын
Did have more "soul", honesty, spontaneity.
@ishitamathur1614
@ishitamathur1614 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@Khayyam-vg9fw
@Khayyam-vg9fw 4 жыл бұрын
@tubenshaft Why are you interrogating me? Yes, I meant what I wrote. Why on earth would you think that I didn't? I have no idea what you mean by an "Inside joke only students of Classical Music will get" (nor why you had to render most of the clause in italics). I intended no joke and I can see none (except a quite accidental quibble on catgut, perhaps, which is hardly side-splitting stuff).
@Khayyam-vg9fw
@Khayyam-vg9fw 4 жыл бұрын
@@francoisdelarochefoucauld7298 OK. I was a bit too quick to condemn.
@CinnamonFudge2229
@CinnamonFudge2229 2 жыл бұрын
music is an art. every artist has their own interpretation, and all of them are great in their own ways
@acousticsong-guitarco964
@acousticsong-guitarco964 Жыл бұрын
That may be true when talking about good musicians… Not all musicians are good in their way, lol
@KatrinkaH86
@KatrinkaH86 4 жыл бұрын
Brett looks younger in recent videos. I'm not saying he looked old but now he looks like 18-20. Did he find some potion of the eternal youth?
@katharineshade9550
@katharineshade9550 4 жыл бұрын
The lack of regular haircuts at the moment?
@auriefei7399
@auriefei7399 4 жыл бұрын
he looks cute with his haircuts tho ;-;
@Tubluer
@Tubluer 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing what catching up on your sleep can do for you.
@sight3435
@sight3435 4 жыл бұрын
KatrinkaH86 Maybe cuz of his pop song! Lol 😅😇
@argo12
@argo12 4 жыл бұрын
@@Tubluer No kidding! I've been off work for 10 weeks now. I've been getting lots of sleep and to me I look 20 years younger.
@maybellelee6315
@maybellelee6315 4 жыл бұрын
Brett: *kisses the light* Me: Brett .... no
@bgreer6584
@bgreer6584 9 ай бұрын
Fun watching B and E’s reaction to Vengerov. What exquisite playing!!
@bread3710
@bread3710 4 жыл бұрын
old school violinists: hm. i will fight for originality and distinction in a time where recordings are limited and everyone must make a name for themselves modern violinists: I AM FOUR PARALLEL UNIVERSES AHEAD OF YOU
@Elena-lx7se
@Elena-lx7se 4 жыл бұрын
Hey :) I highly appreciate the episodes where you two just sit together and talk about music so I came up with another idea for a video: Introducing us Ling Ling wannabes to pieces that are very famous these days but were not appreciated at all or even flopped when they were published back in the days e.g. Rite of Spring etc. Thank you for inspiring me every day, please stay safe :D
@xandraxandra1437
@xandraxandra1437 4 жыл бұрын
randomclarinet075 Second that!
@Ysmir.
@Ysmir. 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, I'm all for balancing funny vids with educational ones
@zavilov
@zavilov 4 жыл бұрын
How about pieces that used to be epically overplayed and noone hears anymore.
@odetojoy2012
@odetojoy2012 4 жыл бұрын
OMG YES PLEASE
@barlin07
@barlin07 4 жыл бұрын
Great idea!
@GoddamnAxl
@GoddamnAxl 4 жыл бұрын
We need more of this kind of content! You guys taught me how classical music is meant to be appreciated. You guys pointed out all the subtleties I wouldn’t otherwise notice.
@FhornPatrick
@FhornPatrick 4 жыл бұрын
I love how music progresses. Being able to pinpoint a time in history and show the differences in how we express music is a wild concept and I'm happy that you two are having so much fun teaching the world about this. Have a great day!
@natejaffa9083
@natejaffa9083 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@yeaolon
@yeaolon 4 жыл бұрын
Interpretation is when a musician *interprets.* Cool, didn’t know that.
@a.hollins8691
@a.hollins8691 4 жыл бұрын
Gut strings are made out of gut.
@arieltabbach4946
@arieltabbach4946 4 жыл бұрын
Andrew Hollins the floor is made out of floor
@doroteyakristeva8082
@doroteyakristeva8082 4 жыл бұрын
Omg! This recording with Vengerov was made in my country! I was at that concert in Sofia, a little girl about 8-9 years old. It was such a wonderful concert!! 💜
@MsPea
@MsPea 4 жыл бұрын
Appreciate this kind of video so much. I'm a beginner on the violin and the struggle is real. To hear Two Set talk about the music and explain what they hear (that I don't, yet) is like a master class. Appreciate also thoughtful comments. Too often the comments deteriorate into silly shipping and crushing. (Just my opinion, no hate.) This is one of my favorite Two Set videos in a long time.
@sarah7141
@sarah7141 4 жыл бұрын
Agree 100% :)
@OganySupreme
@OganySupreme 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. I'm not even learning violin, but it's still good to listen to them critique the old recordings.
@MayimHastings
@MayimHastings 4 жыл бұрын
Same! 👶🏻 🎻
@DaniParducci
@DaniParducci 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! I agree! I'm a beginner, and I love this kind of content. It's educational and entertaining, and I love them.
@garmtpug
@garmtpug 4 жыл бұрын
I would be considered ancient according to TwoSet, born in 1950!! and grew up with classical music. I've played the piano since I was 10 and I do hear many of the things they are talking about. I've also got a good ear for pitch which is helpful. But I'm certain as you progress in your studies of the violin, you'll pick up on more of the subtleties that the boys are talking about. So much of musical "feelings" comes with time and, of course, practice! I own and have listened to numerous recordings, from various times, of classical pieces and this was very interesting for me because it was actually a short span of musical time that they covered. At least for me it was! :-)
@shespeakslatin
@shespeakslatin 4 жыл бұрын
This was so good to watch. As a non musician, to watch and hear as you guys enjoy the music and explain *why* one part hits different and *how* they achieve it was fascinating!! Please expand this series, do it with people who are experts at different instruments, because it's so FUN! Thanks for sharing your talents
@robertgreene2684
@robertgreene2684 4 жыл бұрын
One thing that happened was that people began to play for recordings. In a big hall, the accented style smoothed out. This is a huge effect. Heifetz on records sound a bit crunchy. In concert reality, he sound smooth as silk. (I know--I heard him live). I never heard Elman live but the effect was probably similar. Recordings have made people smooth themselves out. Is this better? Who knows? But it is a good idea to understand why it happened. Isaac Stern used to talk about this, about how when he recorded he would tone down the accents and emphases because the close up microphone of "high fidelity" recording(and especially the nasty resonant treble microphones of the 1950s )picked up the accents and made things sound more aggressive than they would sound to a concert audience. When one plays for recordings one plays a different way. I need to put up my own recording of Dvorak to illustrate this point. It is very close- so I smoothed it out. It works. But in a hall it would have sounded too smooth. Try it for yourself. The old players did not all smooth themselves out so they sound aggressive. But in concert they did not. People were in ecstasy over Elman's tone in reality. To understand this , you need not just to know about violin playing you need to know about how recordings work, what they do to sound.
@JoshTurnerGuitar
@JoshTurnerGuitar 4 жыл бұрын
Super interesting guys. Great video. I've encountered the same thing listening to 1970's recordings of early vocal music - imagine Palestrina with every singer doing a different vibrato...
@eliastsoukatos2
@eliastsoukatos2 4 жыл бұрын
dude, you are the best guitarist in the world for me
@00iamcrazy
@00iamcrazy 4 жыл бұрын
Omg, hi Josh. I love your work so much.
@koshersalaami
@koshersalaami 4 жыл бұрын
The seventies is when they really started to figure this out.
@georgenorris2657
@georgenorris2657 3 жыл бұрын
Oh I have heard it: the BBC singers.
@jaromnascimento8763
@jaromnascimento8763 4 жыл бұрын
No one: Old school interpretation: *Play it thicker as possible.*
@reaganb6013
@reaganb6013 4 жыл бұрын
This has nothing to do with anything but I'm not wearing my glasses and for a split second I thought ur pfp was Obama. I think I'm blinder than I thought 😂
@jojogarcia8766
@jojogarcia8766 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah he play THICC!!!
@Adoublelan13
@Adoublelan13 4 жыл бұрын
I love how each musician has their own interpretation. My biggest wish is that musicians don't get penalized or looked down upon as often as the do if they decided to play in older styles or different interpretations than is considered "right" or "mainstream" these days. Too often I have experienced berating of musicians because they didn't play it exactly as a teacher or instructor or peers wanted or believed it should be played. It feels in modern days people are trying to make too many musicians into robots to play a piece the same way no matter what. At least that is how I felt in University. I felt a lot of my creativity was being challenged too much because it didn't fit someone's expectations.
@magowitberb6957
@magowitberb6957 4 жыл бұрын
TwoSet: WiNds caN’T meMoRiZe Me: Laughs in Marching Band
@lydiaelizabethgarrido2191
@lydiaelizabethgarrido2191 4 жыл бұрын
I've been searching for a comment like this. Thank you!! ❤😅 #saxgang #windinstrumentslivesmatter
@highwolf_x
@highwolf_x 4 жыл бұрын
Solo recitals are usually memorized too. I did my competitions from memory.
@hayleywyatt1852
@hayleywyatt1852 4 жыл бұрын
yeppp
@Deannanarie3434
@Deannanarie3434 4 жыл бұрын
*silence* yeah I can't memorize shit
@Kaldurahm1
@Kaldurahm1 4 жыл бұрын
Double memorize. I remember getting yelled at about how many steps were in each measure from 60-72! "Well then, what measure is the time signature change in?!" "Where do you need to be by the and of 3 on measure 67?!" "Get there!" "Project! I need to hear you from the box!" "Alright! Full tempo! 180!" And the pushups. So many pushups.
@mackenziehutcheson7828
@mackenziehutcheson7828 4 жыл бұрын
"Woodwinds just can't memorize." Me, a saxophone player, about to argue, but then realizing that I haven't been able to memorize the music for my field show for the past 3 years: "Yeah, you right."
@leonajones4702
@leonajones4702 3 жыл бұрын
So true about the glissing. I was taught to use certain "schmaltzy" pitch changes back in the 60's and 70's. I personally prefer the cleaned up versions. On the Bach, I learned to play the first chord like Milstein's example (actually saw him porform in Chicago years ago) -- broken in half. Later, a more modern teacher preferred a harp-like rendition. I love that music has so many interpretations! We get quite a variety of input if we study with different people.
@empresspip
@empresspip 4 жыл бұрын
Remember though, early recording was done through a giant metal trumpet thing, and it couldn't pick up the nuance in sounds. That could be one reason why that dude was pumping out the Meditation. If he played gently, the notes would probably disappear completely!
@maurmi
@maurmi 4 жыл бұрын
That's true
@fitzdarragh
@fitzdarragh 4 жыл бұрын
By the 1960s the old wax cylinders were no longer used. Listen to a recording of Joachim or Ysaye, who actually did have to play inside a horn. The recording quality was infinitely worse than what Elman would have faced.
@stevesutcliffe3490
@stevesutcliffe3490 4 жыл бұрын
Errr, not in the 50s or 60s they didn't. You must be a youngster LOL.
@uselessDM
@uselessDM 4 жыл бұрын
Microphones were used starting in the early 1930s or even late 20s, so with a recording from the 50s this definitely isn't an issue.
@FlameRedCat
@FlameRedCat 4 жыл бұрын
That old piece of film looked & sounded like it hadn’t been stored properly & had experienced signal degradation as a result. I’ve seen/heard colour film from the 1930s that was in better condition than that. 🎞
@reaganb6013
@reaganb6013 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine how confused someone new to their channel would be by the first minute of this video 😂
@dianemacintyre5890
@dianemacintyre5890 5 ай бұрын
Ling Ling! I love your shows! I know this is a little late in the game. You recorded this show 4 years ago. As a kid in grammer school entire classes were treated to Jascha Heifetz concerts on film. He is really old school! However I would wear Heifetz merch if it was available. Ling Ling too-just sayin'. I don't play anymore music myself, but I LOVE to listen. Your shows are so boss and cool... Are you still recording new shows? If not, why not? Everything old is cool again! Like the old school joke: How do you get to Carnegie Hall? Practice Practice Practice! I will continue to watch and listen. You guys are really mahvelous dahling. Signed a true fan in Montana, Diane MacIntyre.
@Liebes2732
@Liebes2732 4 жыл бұрын
Next: How twoset videos have COMPLETELY CHANGED in the last 6 years.
@rizzie_chan
@rizzie_chan 4 жыл бұрын
They should react to their old reacts lol
@HKLydia
@HKLydia 4 жыл бұрын
More buzzwords, for example 😂
@vartago
@vartago 4 жыл бұрын
They suck
@katelynteh
@katelynteh 4 жыл бұрын
@@vartago no
@teefthief
@teefthief 4 жыл бұрын
@@vartago huh??
@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache
@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache 4 жыл бұрын
"1962! None of you were born- Ok some of you guys are" Damn, I feel called out now
@xandraxandra1437
@xandraxandra1437 4 жыл бұрын
Just Some Guy without a Mustache Although most of their fans are under 25 they shouldn’t forget us. We have the money to buy their apparel. :)
@RaeRagusa
@RaeRagusa 4 жыл бұрын
My mom wasn’t even born in 1962 😂😂
@susanblonsky6697
@susanblonsky6697 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Twoset! I was born in 1948. My granddaughter got me into watching you. Now I'm a subscriber and subsidize her apparel purchases. Just sayin'.
@RaeRagusa
@RaeRagusa 4 жыл бұрын
Susan Blonsky Omg, this is so wholesome ❤️❤️❤️ YESS.
@argo12
@argo12 4 жыл бұрын
@@xandraxandra1437 LOL! True!
@farlonfudpucker6640
@farlonfudpucker6640 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, guys. As a non-musician music lover, I learned a lot. As a record collector, please permit me to correct at 1:35 "There's no more older school that that (1950s) 'cause recording wasn't even invented." Although 1948 marked the beginning of high fidelity recording when Columbia introduced the long playing vinyl record (LP or microgroove), commercial recording goes back another 60 years. Here's a short history of early audio recording. Around 1890, German-American inventor Emile Berliner invented the first Gramophone which played flat disc records. Edison is credited with inventing sound recording in 1877 with a machine that used tinfoil wrapped around a metal cylinder as a medium, but not much happened until he switched to using hollow wax cylinders a decade later. (Interestingly, records are still referred to as "wax" or "stacks of wax" by DJs and the area between the last music groove and the label is called the "deadwax.") Disc records and cylinders competed for market share over the 2 decades, with disc records becoming dominant by the 1910s, spawning the 2 major American record companies, Columbia and Victor (which evolved from Berliner's company, joined with RCA in 1929 to become RCA Victor, and is now called Sony Music Entertainment). Disc records of this era are called "shellac" records from the material of which they're made or "78s" from the nominal speed at which they rotated, although this varied greatly among labels. Until 1925 when electrical recording with microphones began, all records were made acoustically, which refers to the method not the instruments, since all instruments were acoustic. The musicians gathered around a large horn which vibrated a diaphragm mechanically connected to a stylus which cut the master record into a soft wax (later lacquer) disc. Although these early recordings have limitations (lower fidelity, surface noise, time constraints, easily damaged, limited lifetime), they're the only source we have for performances prior to 70 years ago. If you want to hear Caruso sing, Rachmaninoff or Paderewski play their own compositions, Toscanini conduct, or Louis Armstrong and His Hot Five play "Heebie Jeebies" then you have to go back to the old recordings (or transfers made to newer media like vinyl, CD, or digital files). Consider that Liszt died in 1886 and Edison's first wax cylinders were released in 1888, so the world missed the priceless opportunity to hear him play by just 2 years. How great would that have been? I have records going back to 1905 including Heifetz playing the Sibelius concerto (1935) and the 4th Mozart concerto (1948) and they sound pretty darn good, once you adjust your ears to the limitations of the medium and concentrate on the performance.
@johndododoe1411
@johndododoe1411 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget non-US recording technology such as wire recorders (predecessor of tape) and the precision mechanical recording of piano performances (predecessor of MIDI files from modern keyboards).
@sarahplummer5514
@sarahplummer5514 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! Really enjoyed learning more :)
@farlonfudpucker6640
@farlonfudpucker6640 Жыл бұрын
@@johndododoe1411 Yes, piano rolls we're an important early recording medium, albeit for only one instrument. Gershwin famously recorded >140 piano rolls of popular music of the day and a smaller number of his own compositions. I have an early 1950s 10" vinyl record on Telefunken of Edvard Grieg playing some of his Lyric Pieces recorded on a piano roll in 1906. The fidelity obtained from these piano rolls exceeds that of disc recording of the day, although it could be argued that piano rolls are not audio recordings at all, but merely capture the position of keys and pedals at various times. Wire recording WAS the first magnetic recording medium, but I didn't mention it because it was never used to record music for commercial release. Rather, it was limited to mainly office & home use for dictation and personal recording, and some military and aviation applications in the 1940s to early 50s.
@rokano
@rokano Жыл бұрын
I think they were joking but yeah I think they would be blown away if they heard the German magnetic tape recordings from 1944
@jessicacs5354
@jessicacs5354 4 жыл бұрын
“There you go, that’s your university degree”
@hello-fx7wn
@hello-fx7wn 4 жыл бұрын
@Jessica C S Brett: :O
@reaganb6013
@reaganb6013 4 жыл бұрын
I felt the pain and I've never even been to university
@tervetuloasuomeek5892
@tervetuloasuomeek5892 4 жыл бұрын
Og's remember this: Ray: Who's Rachel Podger Brett and Eddy: Laughing out loud Ray: *Confusion noises*
@ariff6367
@ariff6367 4 жыл бұрын
Charades
@rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbr
@rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbr 4 жыл бұрын
Omg I love that episode.It's HILARIOUS!!!🤣🤣🤣
@may26carat63
@may26carat63 4 жыл бұрын
Visible confusion intensifies😂😂😂
@jojogarcia8766
@jojogarcia8766 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone who remembers this is falling behind on their Ling Ling regiment.
@elainestatema6654
@elainestatema6654 3 жыл бұрын
I was definitely around before 1962; older than dirt to you. Not too old to enjoy your fun videos, not too old to learn stuff from young whippersnappers.
@SuebinPark
@SuebinPark 4 жыл бұрын
janine’s bow control makes me cry. her tone is all i’ve aspired to be since i really started playing violin
@qqleq
@qqleq 4 жыл бұрын
About 20 years ago I had the enormous pleasure to tour for a week with Janine Jansen with a large Dutch university orchestra. She was a rising star at that time. She was not only an amazing violinist, but also an amazing lovely open, funny and joyful person. On our last concert in the Concertgebouw (Amsterdam) I was the lucky dude (literally all dudes and most girls wanted that honor, we were all in love with her) who got to give her the flowers during the ovation. I recently refound the pictures of that accasion. Pleasantly surprised with seeing someone she knew instead of the normal Concertgebouw valet, all smiles, she spontaneously kissed me on both cheeks in front of 1000+ people. Dear memories. What a talent. What a lovely person.
@maurmi
@maurmi 4 жыл бұрын
Brett will be so jealous to hear that, I'm sure!
@auskath8267
@auskath8267 4 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful memory!
@MissCaraMint
@MissCaraMint 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds absolutely epic.
@inthefade
@inthefade 4 жыл бұрын
I LOVE that first recording. It is so ballsy and fresh sounding 70 years later. It sounds like what I would want to hear in a Dracula movie! And though it isn't as subtle, it has so much raw emotion to it. I would love to hear that aggression, but then have someone also pull out the goosebumps approach. Music like this is best with DYNAMICS, my friends.
@noahburns3609
@noahburns3609 4 жыл бұрын
I find it really odd that classical music, a genre that depends for its popularity and survival almost entirely on works written by people born before the 20th century is also full of people who think very little of classical musicians from even just a few decades ago. The reason Elman's interpretation is so striking is that it is one.
@deepdark795
@deepdark795 4 жыл бұрын
it's cuz most people are today are imbeciles who can't tell great playing from bad playing
@nidurnevets
@nidurnevets 3 жыл бұрын
They said that classical music recordings start around 1950. Entirely wrong There are recordings of Joachim from 1903. Heifetz recorded as far back as 1911 while a kid in Russia.
@TheToughBaby
@TheToughBaby 3 жыл бұрын
@@nidurnevets That's true... but I don't think it's unfair to say that recording technology made a pretty significant leap in the 1950s. I listen to Szell-era Cleveland Orchestra stuff all the time and most of it sounds like it could have been recorded yesterday, but you go back even ten years and there's a dramatic difference. But still, right. There are Edison cylinders of classical music, obviously.
@nidurnevets
@nidurnevets 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheToughBaby I agree.
@rdt1104
@rdt1104 3 жыл бұрын
@@nidurnevets There's even a video on KZbin of Debussy playing Debussy - completely different than modern interpretations
@roberthoffhines5419
@roberthoffhines5419 4 жыл бұрын
More interesting, do this how OLD the player is. Is there reliable recordings of the same pieces by Menuhin, Perlman, Stern that span their careers? Oh, the Jansen really moved me, an' I was born in '64!
@aBradApple
@aBradApple 4 жыл бұрын
I know this is an old video but you guys have seriously reawakened my love for music. Your rhetoric is so elegant when describing each movement.
@lydiaelizabethgarrido2191
@lydiaelizabethgarrido2191 4 жыл бұрын
Eddy: "Wind players just can't memorize🔥😂" Me, a saxophonist/clarinetist: "I'm just focused on remembering to breathe man 😓" Still love you guys ❤🎶
@connorfast388
@connorfast388 4 жыл бұрын
As a fellow woodwind player i can tell you it's because we aren't able to look at our fingers. If we could watch ourselves play, like string players and pianists, memorizing would become easier
@lizourricariet1226
@lizourricariet1226 4 жыл бұрын
honestly
@superdooper1830
@superdooper1830 4 жыл бұрын
Connor Fast I remember best based on feel and sound but the visual can sometimes help too
@Em-uz1ot
@Em-uz1ot 4 жыл бұрын
@@connorfast388 you've unveiled the biggest world's secret here, thanks 😂 I won't be ashamed anymore when people are like "YoU DoN't KnOw It By HeArT ???"
@corinnedrollette6107
@corinnedrollette6107 4 жыл бұрын
Violinists (good violinists) can usually play with their eyes closed. I don’t know if being able to see the fingers is the difference. Maybe it’s just cultural. Violin is so much more competitive, so memorization adds the extra wow factor? I started on violin, then switched to French horn, and for my first competition I was like, “I can memorize this,” and my teacher was like, “Really? That’s not necessary but ok,” and then the judges were like, “What are you doing?! Use sheet music.”
@ErikCPianoman
@ErikCPianoman 4 жыл бұрын
Funnily enough, performance practice with Bach on piano has undergone a similar evolution, but vibrato for damper pedal.
@Cryseris
@Cryseris 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Erik I didn’t know you watched twoset
@emmyyang4339
@emmyyang4339 4 жыл бұрын
Really? All I know is -- my teacher would murder me for abusing pedal, particularly in Baroque music. The only reason, she's told me over and over again, to use pedal in Baroque music, is to sustain a note. Never to cover your lack of scale practice. I choked.
@ErikCPianoman
@ErikCPianoman 4 жыл бұрын
@@emmyyang4339 that’s a solid approach. We should never use the pedal to cover up technical or musical problems. However, the mindset on baroque performance practice has started to shift in recent years. I think the pedal can be use subtly in places to add resonance and for contrasting timbre. It’s a myth that Bach didn’t like resonance (one of his favorite instruments was the lute-harpsichord and I imagine the chapels of the day are as reverberate today as they were back then). With all that in mind, I think it’s apropos to use pedal in Bach (to taste and never to cover up issues) for more than just sustaining notes that can’t be held otherwise.
@emmyyang4339
@emmyyang4339 4 жыл бұрын
@@ErikCPianoman yes, ofc, there are lots and lots of things pedal can be used for in Bach (I was referring a bit more to harpsichord music) but covering bad technique is not 'excusable'.
@ChollieD
@ChollieD 3 жыл бұрын
A little judicious use of the sustain pedal is where this apostate (me) is at.
@elizabeth3230
@elizabeth3230 Жыл бұрын
I don’t know why this popped up in my feed but these guys are so excited about classical music that I actually became interested! Love what you’re doing, please keep doing it!
@artemtsarevskiy2785
@artemtsarevskiy2785 4 жыл бұрын
*"she has those moments of release, and yet she still gives you those juicy dissonant chords"* fAMiLy FrIeNdLy
@benparsons4979
@benparsons4979 4 жыл бұрын
is this supposed to be a euphemism or something?
@kSmolarkowa
@kSmolarkowa 4 жыл бұрын
I study astronomy now, but as soon I as I get my master degree (and becoming financially independent) I swear I will start the violin lessons, wish me luck >.
@sakurahinata4984
@sakurahinata4984 4 жыл бұрын
Same here
@raypeanuts3185
@raypeanuts3185 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's what I said. I was 15 and had just seen Arthur Rubinstein on TV. I'm now 78 and in second year piano. Don't wait.
@mithinie
@mithinie 4 жыл бұрын
I think you should start as soon as you as you can afford it and have a bit of time. Because when you do you'll love it so much you'll wonder why you didn't learn it sooner. And we'll... life you know... Good luck anyway with your goals 😊
@sasukesarutobi3862
@sasukesarutobi3862 4 жыл бұрын
Please tell me you're going to start with Holst
@SubNorm4L
@SubNorm4L 4 жыл бұрын
Start as soon as you can, even one hour of practice a day can do a lot
@mikecabral1579
@mikecabral1579 3 жыл бұрын
I’m new to classical music. I watched a documentary on Janine Jansen a recording session of Beethoven op 61. I fell in love with the music and her. The first 15 + minutes watching her just listing to the Orchestra how moved she was just grabbed me. She just becomes part of the music before she even played a note. She is a very beautiful woman but so much more than that. She is very expressive while playing and seems so connected to the orchestra. Well that started me down a path of exploration I don’t regret. This music makes me feel it. I’m a happier person for having found it. I could never go to a live concert of op 61 I would drive people crazy I can’t be still listening to it. Especially 1st movement.
@wsljoan
@wsljoan 4 жыл бұрын
1:35 Brett: there's no more older school than 1950 because recording wasn't even invented Reality: We have recordings of Rachmaninoff playing his concertos in the 1920s. By the 1950s there's already over a decade of colored movies, let alone sound recordings!
@Namenae27
@Namenae27 4 жыл бұрын
We also have recordings of the last castrato vocalist Alessandro Moreschi from 1902!!!
@juliusseizure591
@juliusseizure591 4 жыл бұрын
We have a wax cylinder of Brahms playing from the 1880s!
@whitfitzgerald638
@whitfitzgerald638 4 жыл бұрын
And treatises detailing playing style all the way back to early Renaissance Italy.
@sarahkraus8247
@sarahkraus8247 4 жыл бұрын
@@juliusseizure591 we have a recording of that guy singing a clair de la luna in 1850 also
@veronicaredeemed
@veronicaredeemed 4 жыл бұрын
me a pianist: forever grateful! -though I have read that Rachmaninoff was reluctant to record his music...
@arazaratsyan6478
@arazaratsyan6478 4 жыл бұрын
Just so everyone knows, audio recordings were actually invented much earlier than video recordings (~1877 audio and ~1951 video), so you can even find music recordings from all the way back to the early 20th century or even late 19th century for further "old school" recordings. For example, here's the internationally renowned violin virtuoso and composer Fritz Kreisler playing Thaïs Meditation in 1910: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bniVe3mdgtR3b5I I actually think it's quite a beautiful interpretation, and you can even hear a lot of similarities with how people might play it today, although there also of course clear differences on style as well. One cool thing about these old recordings is that you can sometimes find composers playing their own pieces, which can be very interesting. I'd love if Brett and Eddy made some mention/consideration of these older recordings too, maybe in a future video, but I doubt they'll ever see this comment or hear about these earlier recordings any time soon if they don't already know about them.
@AriallaMacAllister
@AriallaMacAllister 4 жыл бұрын
Oh good, someone already made this point. *Applauds in wax cylinder, since that was more durable than the original tin foil*
@JE-vv3nj
@JE-vv3nj 4 жыл бұрын
This should’ve been called 15 minutes of Brett and Eddy enjoying violin. This was great
@techn9cian09
@techn9cian09 4 жыл бұрын
The cool thing about classical music, you can listen to the same piece played by different musicians and still get an entirely different song.
@xandraxandra1437
@xandraxandra1437 4 жыл бұрын
techn9cian09 *piece ;)
@Nadia1989
@Nadia1989 4 жыл бұрын
Even with the same musician two performances are not the same
@techn9cian09
@techn9cian09 4 жыл бұрын
xandra xandra yeah you right😂 but saying piece twice felt a bit inordinate. 🤷‍♂️
@Un1234l
@Un1234l 4 жыл бұрын
That happens with all music sorry to burst your bubble. Covers exist. A recent favourite of mine is listening to the original Can't Take My Eyez Off You vs Joseph Vincent's.
@UlimorUdamenta
@UlimorUdamenta 4 жыл бұрын
As a Baroque violinist, baroque bows give you a more natural "swelling and deflating" sound. "Messa di Voce" is a powerful tool. On the spot embellishments are also done besides vibrato. Brett and Eddy, I suggest you guys give Baroque bows a try. Hehe
@emitch9213
@emitch9213 Жыл бұрын
You guys, your reactions are what gives the best part to your videos. I am not a musician, although not left out of the opera and ballet world. I grew up with the old school and yes, born before 1962. I have had a lot of fun capturing your videos. I am going to introduce your sight to my young grandson, who has taken interest to the violin. Thank you for the shred joy. I continue to learn.
@asteok2740
@asteok2740 4 жыл бұрын
Brett: **kisses light** *gets flashbacks on Brett's lofi music*
@sss-bx3vp
@sss-bx3vp 4 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a series of this, it opens my eyes so much...or my ears. As a non-musician I really love your explanation and demonstrations.
@connerh492
@connerh492 4 жыл бұрын
"Liszt popularized playing from memory" Paganini: cries
@jeburr24
@jeburr24 3 жыл бұрын
Clara Schumann: Rolls eyes in woman
@RobFlaxMusic
@RobFlaxMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Can I just say: watching you two fanboy over Janine Jansen's playing was so wholesome and heartwarming! Everybody loves a good roast, but it's so nice to hear you put somebody *up* rather than down.
@RhondaBranneky
@RhondaBranneky 4 жыл бұрын
I watched Janine grow up. She babysat my son!
@sakuryanacc
@sakuryanacc 4 жыл бұрын
I'm loving the balance among your types of videos lately! This one geeking out very nicely, too 😍 learned a lot just by little snippets of each...um...era? Wouldn't even mind watching you two go into a more detailed explanations for longer vids!
@Muha11B
@Muha11B 4 жыл бұрын
I have no idea what they're talking about but it's so fascinating and I love how in depth they always go in their videos I can't stop watching!!!
@mgoguen7413
@mgoguen7413 4 жыл бұрын
I love when they do videos like this. Really showcases their knowledge and talent. Another amazing video guys!!
@phj0307
@phj0307 4 жыл бұрын
jokes aside, i like this type of video where twoset educate us on classical music knowledge. ive loterally learnt more classical music here than in my past music education. thank you twoset :D
@debbievermilyea4037
@debbievermilyea4037 4 жыл бұрын
I do not play any instruments but I have a love for music that waltzes with the soul, makes me cry, gives me chills, reminds me that little else can sweep me away like a symphony does. Nothing compares to the violin. It is my absolute favorite and now I have a laughing good time learning from you and your friends. I am very grateful I found you. I binge watched you tonight. Loved your Hilary Hahn hula hoop/violin competition. You're both fun, intelligent and great musicians. Thank you for your light-hearted ways. What a difference you make in my day!
@aisyarahandina5499
@aisyarahandina5499 4 жыл бұрын
i love the way brett and eddy play to demonstrate and explain it! 💜✨ (+their expressions are precious-cuteness overload😫💜) brighten up my day with knowledge✨✨ please make another one!!✨✨
@maurmi
@maurmi 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, playing to demonstrate it really made a difference
@diana_cantabile
@diana_cantabile 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, their playing was the highlight for me. Makes everything much clearer, and also i just love to hear them play
@ApplepieFTW
@ApplepieFTW 4 жыл бұрын
Hats off, this was an especially good video. Like actually lots of solid content
@ulrikmortensen9426
@ulrikmortensen9426 2 жыл бұрын
The performance using catgut strings and the older bow really resonated with me. I really liked the personality put into the music 🤗🤗🤗
@Bermeslivre
@Bermeslivre 4 жыл бұрын
I honestly like Milstein's performance over the modern style. The same way I like Hahn's Erlkönig or any interpretation of Sibelius' Finlandia. It's fucking metal.
@wilh3lmmusic
@wilh3lmmusic 3 жыл бұрын
There’s a reason I like Richter Appassionata
@theresahemminger1587
@theresahemminger1587 3 жыл бұрын
….and he, tragically, lost a finger on his left hand and could no longer play…
@ThatBoomerDude56
@ThatBoomerDude56 4 жыл бұрын
5:53 Re-starting the great Wood Wind War of 2020. Clarinets, Oboes, Bassoons, and others (even Saxophones?) can join Recorders in their defense against Violins.
@maurmi
@maurmi 4 жыл бұрын
Some of play both, but this year I'm on the recorders' side
@mary_bblueraven
@mary_bblueraven 4 жыл бұрын
Okay but when he said the woodwind thing I instantly said out loud "Yeah but remembering all the keys is fucking hard there are so many holes and your running out of breath in this essay I will-" so uh....Yeah basically ehat you said lmao 😉😂
@Tubluer
@Tubluer 4 жыл бұрын
And the flutes look down from the higher plane they live in, unaffected by anything but the quest for a higher artistry.
@ethanjonahjorge7994
@ethanjonahjorge7994 4 жыл бұрын
I am on the strings team bc I play guitar
@emilia1911
@emilia1911 4 жыл бұрын
As a recorder player, I'm obviously on the woodwind's side. (But what about flutes?)
@damookster5919
@damookster5919 2 жыл бұрын
I loved the old school players. Like they were saying it was non apologetic and you could feel what they were feeling when playing it because of that.
@natalykazo8384
@natalykazo8384 4 жыл бұрын
I have fallen in love with how the two of you love classical music. Thank you for introducing me to all these amazing artists ad the pieces they play! And thank you for all your hard work. You are my Ling Lings.
@beyzaozbek549
@beyzaozbek549 4 жыл бұрын
Dude, i listen to classical music you know. I love it. But old school is nothing like i've heard before, damn they are epic. Awesome man!
@capuchinosofia4771
@capuchinosofia4771 4 жыл бұрын
Same man, I just love the strength, the epicness of it!
@mariahdeforest4120
@mariahdeforest4120 2 жыл бұрын
Im very excited by this educational approach - this is sooooo interesting! And the guys do a great, light-hearted touch on exploring the different styles. Loved it!
@supern0v4_33
@supern0v4_33 4 жыл бұрын
I love this video! It shows how classical music isn't stagnant at all especially to those not much familiar with the genre or to those who say it's boring and easy since we play music by composers from ages ago.
@brendangibson8200
@brendangibson8200 4 жыл бұрын
In all fairness, though, to someone who doesn't know anything about the tiny details like vibrato, small improvisation, timbre, etc., you can very clearly see why a lot of people think that classical music has become stagnant
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