How We Already Have Real TIE Fighters (Because Science w/ Kyle Hill)

[@UKTheOmegaPyro]

0:43 They explain this in lore. Its really difficult to be in a dogfight without sound. You have no awareness of the location of the enemy, so ships have sensors installed that track the location of ships, then speakers mimic the sounds of lasers and engines. Its one of those "read the books" kind of facts.

[@maxmoody9755]

You learn something everyday!

[@norhaslindaghazali8693]

+Max Moody i learned how to pull someone pants without being notice

[@Ezper-2099]

woah, cool fact

[@zidanerizalalghifaryalghif3248]

the less i knew

[@Sb-mr6rv]

I suggest we ditch the saying "it's not rocket science" and replace it with "it's not quantum mechanics"

[@flugelblarghen]

I prefer."It's not like trying to figure out what a girl actually means from what she said."

[@ixcellquethone4893]

That's a good idea considering rocket science isn't that hard to understand these days.

[@bluebirdsigma]

It ain't rocket surgery

[@crusader3400]

Quantum physics???

[@FieldMarshalFry]

"quantity has a quality all its own" - Stalin, Twenty Star General of the Imperial Guard "You see, the Killbots have a preset kill limit. Knowing their weakness, I sent wave after wave of my own men at them, until they reached their limit and shut down." - Zapp Brannigan, Twenty-five Star General of the Imperial Guard.

[@cpob2013]

+Field Marshal Fry that was a dark day for robot kind... eh we can always build more kill bots. - bender, bending unit of moms friendly robot company

[@FieldMarshalFry]

Connor O'Brien and then we will send wave after wave of infantry at them until they shut down

[@unlimited-edge]

+Field Marshal Fry "Every mission with me is a suicide mission" -Zapp

[@joshmaxwell8767]

+PatarCreation s (PatarCreations) For u or for the others because if its for u you'll have one mission only :(

[@mkevz]

I was just watching futurama

[@kylehill]

Hey so yeah, I was really sick this episode and yeah, I said the wrong number (again). Sorry about that. The correct value is 320,000 kph though.

[@gl1500ctv]

Kyle, sorry to hear you're not feeling well man. Do ion engines have the highest specific impulse when you include some kind of matter / anti-matter engine? I thought that would be virtually 100% efficient since all the fuel (matter and anti-matter) is converted directly to energy. Just curious...

[@ShouldHaventJoined]

The use of anti matter changes the drive since with anti matter you are colliding opposites at each other destroying both for the byproduct being energy.

[@ShouldHaventJoined]

The use of anti matter changes the drive since with anti matter you are colliding opposites at each other destroying both for the byproduct being energy.

[@ShouldHaventJoined]

The use of anti matter changes the drive since with anti matter you are colliding opposites at each other destroying both for the byproduct being energy.

[@kylehill]

Well, it has the highest specific engine of any engine that has been actually constructed and tested.

[@asgart16]

We may have TIE's, but we don't have TIE FIGHTERS!!

[@kylehill]

+asgart16 Pfft I bet NASA could put a laser on one of those spacecraft no problem.

[@asgart16]

Kyle Hill I wonder how much a laser (that could actually do something in terms of destruction) would negate the acceleration of an Ion engine...

[@kylehill]

+asgart16 that's why you angle the laser to fire in the same direction as the ion beam!

[@asgart16]

+Kyle Hill hmm that could work, but what use would the laser have then? ;)

[@wilywil79]

+asgart16 once enough momentum is gained, that laser would make the TIE more like a dart piercing anything in its path

[@kanchide]

0:44 I like to think the Ion emissions causes an interference in neighboring radio receivers, and thats what the rebel pilots hear when they cross a TIE.

[@PeterSavad]

+Kanchide Works for me.

[@beep5514]

+Kanchide Though that is a really cool explanation, we also hear it when nobody else is there but the audience. (For example a scene in Ep. VI where the camera zooms in on Palpatines throne room and two TIE come swooping by.) As with all Sci-Fi's, they didn't care about the silence in space. But I can hardly blame them, silent space battles wouldn't be nearly as cool. :D

[@jetison333]

my explanation is always just that sensors read what's going on and simulate sounds to increase situation awareness.

[@jetison333]

***** that is true, but its fun to make up things.

[@Holmesy87]

I saw a Thai fighter once, does that count?

[@abluh7486]

Holmesy87 ffs

[@Holmesy87]

Andrew Pestana =D

[@KhanGarth]

Sagat or Adon?

[@kasaikorionps4238]

put the engines on him then hes official lucas film property

[@LethalMonarch]

Island Tropics well, now he's Disney property. Sadly.

[@LiamGoodison]

I keep thinking he's Thor

[@cyberspino6277]

He is thor just on a surfing vacation

[@Braiden-lp4dm]

Lol, i was thinking the same until I saw this comment

[@spensersowards7904]

@Kyle: If I remember right, the TIE fighters are so fast and nimble because they have nothing. No life support, no shields, nothing but steel, engines and blasters. The pilots need dedicated suits so they can breath in their TIE fighters. So, they have much less weight to them compared to other ships. And, I guess they just have stronger, more futuristic Ion engines to boot?

[@TheBoundFenrir]

Eh, we have TIE ships. They aren't Fighters yet.

[@HolyknightVader999]

Slap some guns on them and we're good to go.

[@michaelaaron230]

I don't know... the fact that they exist means someone is fighting for something...

[@ScottiePace]

@@HolyknightVader999 After firing the guns, the engine's thrust would be easily counteracted...

[@thegamespider2762]

We can have a goddamn TIE frickin Star Destroyer so eh.

[@iamforsaken_1]

This video. I like it. ANOTHER!

[@AdventureThroughLife]

That's not funny. I don't get why anyone thinks it's funny to write or anything else like it. It is try hard and stupid.

[@deadaccount6017]

+AdventureThroughLife its not supposed to be try harding or anything, its too express ones actions during RP which is sometimes used in a joke.

[@dp-r9856]

+AdventureThroughLife Because the host looks like Thor.

[@AdventureThroughLife]

+Beagán :D This isn't an RP forum. But if it tickles your fancy, be my guest.

[@iamforsaken_1]

AdventureThroughLife Its because the host looks like thor, I'm not starting a fucking RP you twot

[@Kajiggger]

"it produces a lot of thrust" giggity

[@Nerdist]

+skildren We see what you did there. 😏😏😏

[@comicguy9019]

+Nerdist how does bb8 work next video

[@khills242]

Lmao bruh

[@Kajiggger]

Kyle Hills C'mon man you knew that had to happen. Heck I was half expecting you to say it.

[@EeveeRBL]

We’ve since had Tie Fighters, they were called Stukas.

[@wicx1386]

Haha, just a few minutes ago I was listening to their engines and instantly thinking of Stuka sirens

[@crewcutter2030]

Who would want a fighter who cant even win, at most, it can TIE.

[@ayimenhussien2861]

crewcutter2030 these comments have came to a tie

[@KatherineClairmont]

well we have TIE craft, but if they aren't meant to fight, are they really TIE fighters?

[@akarny2187]

same reason jets are sometimes called jet fighters they are meant for combat I mean yes they are air crafts but they are specifically made for combat I dont think you would see some one just driving this to their way to work would you?

[@akarny2187]

oh shit sorry thought you were talking about star wars tie fighters I'm dumb

[@wjhull]

They fight the limitations of conventional terrestrial rocket engines.

[@pratofundo]

Not so much related, but… Kyle Hill ***** about ships, the new Independence Day trailer and Atmospheric entry. We see all the shock layers, temperature rising, hypersonic velocity… in the new trailer those ships look very, very, very big what the effects in Earth? I mean… oxygen will be consumed, CO2/CO produced, shock waves and the "fun stuff". I was just wondering… :)

[@Nerdist]

Oooooh, we'll definitely put this on the list of things for a future episode!

[@fanta4897]

+PratoFundo I would be more concerned about gravity field of that ship itself.

[@joaocandido3124]

br?

[@pratofundo]

Frank Serial No. 040897 Oh, that too. But enter the "fun stuff" realm hahahahah

[@chronictoasty-_-1969]

+Nerdist do the science of how strong One Punch Man is XD lol

[@jacobsmith3369]

So could ion blasters exist or not?

[@kylehill]

+Jacob Smith Not sure. I'm not aware of any tech that shoots concentrated globs of ions or plasma.

[@brianlocke6561]

+Kyle Hill pretty much any particle accelerator is an ion gun. They accelerate protons at relativistic velocities. Also plasma cutters use a beam of plasma to cut through materials and could be considered an ion blaster.

[@kylehill]

+BrianLocke But those are streams or beams, not bolts of a finite length.

[@brianlocke6561]

That is a matter of semantics at that point. They are finite in that at some point you stop firing. At what length does it become a bolt? The point is that they accelerate ions at a target. They are a in essence a gun.

[@Ghonosyphlaids]

-Tries to falsify Kyle via semantics -Attempts to verify his argument with semantics. Don't ever change, youtube commentors

[@FlagCutie]

I love how even while he is geeking out, Kyle still manages to out geek himself with something else, ie his mini tangent on the sound of the TIE fighters :)

[@chrisv4496]

Entertaining video as always, Kyle! You should do a video on the new EM drives which are able to seemingly create thrust with no actual fuel. I originally wrote the idea off as a pipe-dream, but I've heard that the design is actually showing success. Thoughts?

[@Nerdist]

+Chris V Thanks for watching, Chris!

[@hypercell1016]

+Nerdist You didn't answer his question. Try again.

[@benkthompson66]

Okay.....you have become my new favorite youtuber....... I wish my science teachers could be this animated!

[@santifisto]

That moment when you realize that Kyle is chewvacca with all his hair cutted except from his head

[@Nerdist]

HA HA HA

[@LeoStaley]

Every one of these videos makes me so happy.

[@umichrudy]

Yes! Love this video, Kyle! Well thought out, no contradictions, focuses on real tech and how it relates to a cultural thing (Star Wars). I'm very impressed. You are still good looking though, fyi...

[@kylehill]

+Mark Rudy Thank you Mark

[@umichrudy]

Kyle Hill For sure. Thumbs up, as always :)

[@kylehill]

+Mark Rudy You won't like the next video, but hey, there you go

[@umichrudy]

Kyle Hill Cest la vie! I'll still Thumbs Up it in support of the idea unless it makes me totally rage!

[@MelloYT]

The only reason TIE Fighters could or are real,are due to their design. Seethe inner mechanisms are quite simple,as gravity pulls you down,the ION engine could be forcing it up. With another ION engine propelling it forward. However,the mass,would be to great for the outer ship. Meaning that the first ION Engine,is pointing at a 29 Degree angle. As it propels it forward and up at the same time,however,when it reaches a certain speed,the engine,in a way,will supress itself for a brief second or two. As it shifts from the angle to a completely straight engine,meaning that the Fighter,is now going straight. But by that time,it is going so fast,that gravity is barely affecting it. But the rudders,or turning system,is quite complex. The rudders have to be on top,and bottom of the sides,so it can actually pull up,and turn. The way by turning it,is by having separate levers,and a button to make it one lever. As each lever controls a different side. Then when it becomes one lever,there are buttons on it to control the both,right separately,left separately,and to go up and down. It needs to feature oxygen tanks so the pilot can breathe,as the speed,would almost make you loose all your air. My head hurts now.

[@thegamespider2762]

Well, since we *technically* have TIE fighters, our next step in space exploration is to work on the military, but on a galactic scale quite yet.

[@espressocookie8965]

but first we have to make them MUCH more powerful.

[@ravenlowes1830]

3:38 you said 32,000 but wrote 320,000

[@monkeymonkeyson6743]

I have no idea what you are talking about. About 99.9% of the time but it's still awesome to watch this

[@dylanporter8105]

who would win a Thai fighter or a tie fighters

[@LethalMonarch]

Dylan porter Thai fighters are beasts, but a tie fighter would definitely win

[@lakkakka]

I have to say your looks combined with your presentation and video editing, makes it look like math is cool. And cool guys do math too.. Let's hope it catches on with the majority of the future generations. Thank you for all your hard work.

[@sommer7808]

Hey Kyle can you find out how much force there is in one of Saitama's punch from One Punch Man?

[@kylehill]

+Phoenix Wrath hmmmmmm maybe!

[@thesandycc6332]

+Kyle Hill do it!

[@stormcatism]

+Kyle Hill do it

[@Samuraiedge2]

+Phoenix Wrath For now, we know that his punches are fast enough to produce a lot of heat.

[@sommer7808]

Samuraiedge2, yes, but that still don't explain how much force there is in one of his punches

[@danielflecha4154]

i literally subbed solely to watch because science episodes XD kyle is just, genius imo

[@xINVISIGOTHx]

it's weird when you stop talking while you write, but then overlay a voice of what you're writing

[@sumguy12345etc]

These videos are incredible! I love stuff like this. You just gained a new subscriber.

[@arcgen7182]

Chris Hemsworth long lost twin

[@arcgen7182]

and Brad Pitt

+Arc Gen That was my first thought exactly. :D

[@anthonyargent3964]

I think the lore from Elite Dangerous is the best I've heard to explain why all Sci-Fi has "sound in space". In Elite, the backstory to having sound is that space IS silent, but your ships computer generates a soundscape based on external sensor data for the benefit of the human pilot who is used to, you know, hearing stuff. When your cockpit is breached from hostile weapons fire or whatnot, it goes silent for a few seconds until your emergency space helmet deploys, in which case the sound is muted.

[@aristini6910]

how do u write backwards like its easy

[@CuBroProductions]

Clorox Bleach Can I have a cup of you?

[@SnootchieBootchies27]

I'm not sure it's how he does it but I would just write normally, then flip the video. Work smarter, not harder.

[@finngreen8192]

4:48 Did he pun with a Vader quote? I think he did. I must say I did enjoy that little reference at the end. "I have you now" at least in my sub list anyway.

[@BlinkZX6R]

32,000 or 320,000? Your video disagrees with your voice.

[@landonrice8231]

BlinkZX6R 320,000

[@83fleafan]

"Zergling".... Nooice throwback! Haven't heard that word in a long time!

[@jacobkearythesasquatch7825]

lol, the dubs when he's writing

[@WizardClipAudio]

I straight snort laughed at 1:13

[@armydillo1013]

You might hear the screech of the engines because the engines are forcing out particles in order to create thrust. These particles travel through space and eventually hit something like the window of a spaceship, vibrating it, creating sound inside the cockpit.

[@vladtheimpaler9577]

Starcraft 2 is my favorite all time game.I am glad you mentioned it in this episode Kyle.Why can't you make an episode of because science about protos warp technology,Zerg borrow technice or why are terrans still useing bullets instead of laser guns.

[@joshuaharvey3631]

Some ion thrusters actually have the potential for higher thrust. Magnetoplasmadynamic thrusters that use lithium for fuel can have the thrust of a chemical rocket with the efficiency of an electric rocket (and the power consumption of a small city but this is Star Wars), and VASIMR thrusters can toggle between high thrust and high efficiency modes. Given a suitably miniaturized power source there's no reason that a very high thrust ion engine couldn't be built.

[@krashzordon5480]

Kyle mentioned in this episode a very relevant question why is there a sound for the ships in space? Well it turns out there's probably already some valid and great answers to that question. Ya see those ships are being driven by humans and sentient beings that evolved in an atmosphere. As any sound geek or nerd worth their salt will tell you if a sentient being sits in a sound proofed room that cancels all sound it will slowly unnerve the living daylights out of them because we as sentients being require sound as an input to better interact with all of our environment. To experiment with this watch jaws or any horror movie you haven't ever seen before without sound and then rewatch it with sound, even though you'll know what is going to happen you'll likely be very scared at the appropriate moments because of the sound cues that occur slightly before the scare takes place. So in essence those vehicles play those sounds to the occupants to tell the occupants when their allies are close and when enemies are approaching and these sounds are constantly happening on some level to put the pilots mind's at ease during their trip through the vacuum of space. This also explains why the lasers have sounds associated with them as well. Those sounds are applied by the shipboard sensors to tell pilots of which direction and how terrible the threat is that is moving in the same space as they are. It's also likely that the different sides (the rebellion, and the empire, as well as the Resistance, and the New Order) have their own corresponding sounds for their own ships and those of the enemy force to help their soldiers and allies understand whom is a threat and also to hinder soldier of the opposing army from stealing their ships and using them against their own forces. I hope this clears that conundrum up for people. The sounds of the ships are there for us, the makers and pilots and passengers of those ships. They don't exist in the vacuum of space those sounds exist to repel the harsh reality of the vacuum of space from interfering with our stable flow of consciousness and organized function as the sentient beings we evolved into.

[@crypticalter555]

Omg there is such a easier way to make a Tie Fighter Step 1: Grab a tie. Step 2: tape a laser pointer on the tie. Step 3: Turn on the laser pointer. Step 4: Find someone who hates Star Wars. Step 5: ATTACK THEM WITH THE TIE FIGHTER!

[@trebacca9]

Nerd Alert: If you wanna go there, the Twin Ion in TIE refers to the power generator. The sublight motor that propels them is similar to every other engine. They just use a different power generation method.

[@calebheinis965]

If I'm Correct but i believe that the TIE fighter has an advanced ion engine that is on a pivot that would allow the TIE to wok as a VTOL having it spin to the front to rapidly slow. this also explains why they turn the way they do i from the two engines spinning in different directions.

[@gwennedawson4766]

Apparently it's made from a cracked crystal, which is why the blade flickers/is jagged and why the cross-guards are there (siphons off the excess/unstable energy from the main blade); and it's supposed to be an ancient design.

[@brianlocke6561]

You could explain the sound it makes as the stream of ions bouncing off the cockpit of the other ships transmitting the sound that way, but the simple answer is "the rule of cool" People expect to hear sound from fighters, and so they made a rule that space ships make sounds in the movies.

[@zeromechdragon700]

You just combined two awesome series and for that I tip my hat to you

[@KaletheQuick]

The thrust level of an ion engine could be increased. From what I understand the main reason they cant just put more power and propellant into it is because there are erosion issues with the ionization grid. If those were to be solved you could potentially make ones that flow more propellant, and get as much thrust as you want.

[@zofotoziggy]

Hey, stumbled on some science in Fallout 4. Found mission called Big Dig, involving a robot that mines using sonic resonance. I was working in a civic engineering lab (in MA, no less) 3 years ago, and the boss was running a brain child project on using sonic resonance chamber to test strength and stability of soils. Wonderful moments when the science (albeit hammed up in the game) is actually legit.

[@Triscuity2k]

Hey Kyle, Awesome episode. Being that we're seeing more Dong of Justin these days I was wondering if you could do an episode on how Kryptonian powers work. I know that there are many schools of thought on this one, but would love to get your take on everything from solar absorbent skin cells to just how they fly. And I can't just accept the whole, "it's jumping" explanation because they hover, they change direction ... There must be more to it! Sorry a bit of nerd rage there, I apologize and hope to see an episode like that in the future. Thanks. Sincerely, Tris-Cuit of the House of Nerd

[@andrasbeke3012]

Interestingly enough, provided that ion engines actually make this sound, due to the dipper effect the sound pitches up, then down. In the cockpit, it would be a constant steady pitch.

[@titanslayer1104]

Just some facts, at one point in the video, he says that even with this engine, it can't move as like a tie fighter, in animation I saw,( this may not be true) the tie tie fighter could move it's engine in which direction it's going. That could work.

[@Vloddamick]

I like the explanation used by Elite Dangerous, in that the sounds are artifically created by the ships A.I. so that the pilot can accurately orient themselves to the goings on in space. otherwise in such vision deprived cockpits the pilots would have no way of tracking the action going on outside the ship.

[@StarKnight83]

I thought I saw somewhere that you can use an ion engine and have decent acceleration but the trade off was either using exponentially higher energy cost (or fuel - negating their benefit)

[@Elizondobass]

Kyle would make an awesome science teacher. I’m thinking college level good.

[@josephvera2788]

VERY GOOD. LEARNING A LOT. PLEASE KEEP ON TEACHING US...

[@johnhurley8918]

the opennings of the engines are pretty small, so maybe the ions are compressed to create more pressure and thereby more thrust. Kind of like putting your thumb over a water hose.

[@totoritko]

+John Hurley Particle impact pressure, essentially gas pressure, is how chemical rockets work and is part of the reason why they are so inefficient. Even at over 10 MPa (>100x atmospheric pressure) in their combustion chambers, they really struggle to get past a couple of percent of the fuel efficiency of an ion engine. That's why instead of trying to design some compression contraption, electric thrusters (of which ion engines are a variation) focus on improving the electric part.

[@isaacthomson683]

+totoritko "coppying off of wikipedia"

[@totoritko]

Donna Sutherland [citation needed]

[@DoctorKandosii]

A question for Kyle: If a TIE fighter is in hot pursuit of a target at REALLY high speed, what would happen if it fired its laser/energy cannon/gun thingy at that speed? I guess what I'm asking is the same as what happens if Superman fires a gun as he is flying. This sort of stuff keeps me awake at night. That and the looming threat of war, ya know.

[@matthewcox7985]

3:20 "...a car that takes four days to accelerate to 60 miles an hour..." Actually, I think that's better than my last car...

[@dylanhooper9276]

Theoretically you could attach smaller rocket engines to the tie fighter to accelerate, and the ion thruster to maintain velocities. I would recommend talking about antimatter propulsion, or faster than light travel (space bubble travel)

[@dylanhooper9276]

True, but what I suggested was scientifically feasible, while to do that we would need massive leaps in theoretical, and quantum physics.

[@dylanhooper9276]

em drive

[@ScorpioHighlander]

Well honestly it's not hard to imagine how an ion engine could have grater acceleration, you simply have to increase the number of ions it spits out and or the speed they're spit out at. That said you may have trouble getting it to the point it could match a TIE fighter's acceleration and maneuverability.

[@courtjester7407]

You can hear sounds in space with the assistance of the Babble fish. Not only can the Babble fish allow one to understand all forms of spoken communication, but also provides sound effects for objects in a vacume. Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy/Encyclopedia Galactica. And Vogon poetry is in fact lethal, if not very toxic!

[@JohnPeacekeeper]

TIE fighters are actually pretty quality made. For their lack of shields, they're at least twice as maneuverable as an X-Wing, even being able to fly backwards and straight up SIDEWAYS

[@AckzaTV]

love the music at 4:10

[@darthrevan3342]

Actualy starship in star wars have a maximum speed for security, it allow ship to exit hyperspace, stop manouver very easly and give them a max speed (this max speed seem to depend on the thrusting power)

[@Tfin]

Except for the "fighter" part. Also of course, the highly maneuverable part and the manned part. Never mind the horrible configuration for those solar panels.

[@Avigorus]

This is assuming that advanced, alien tech doesn't allow their ion engines to accelerate fast enough to pull those kinds of maneuvers; our version of ion engine tech is arguably relatively basic.

[@architsharma179]

since the ions ejected from the ship are having a very high velocity i guess we can use the relative equation of mass( or maybe momentum ) which is says that mass increases exponentially .all we have to do is provide enough energy

[@ezramuskat139]

Just a thought, and I don't know how these would work, but perhaps they have some sort of momentum redirector that allows them to change direction without slowing down.

[@zool201975]

one question. the atoms that are being used as a propellant where do they come from and what element is it? I keep hearing this but i cannot find specific information about this. because if you need something to propel you need to replenish it.

[@TheBHAitken]

I think your case with the Tie fighter is a case of volume vs method. Taken the assumption that these civilizations has been playing around with Ion engines for a while, I'd personally expect the final design would look like a combination of a cluster engine feeding through a cyclonic system to get the thrust you require. And yea, that'll be a lot of plasma.

[@SynMusique]

1:20 well done!

[@yunthi]

just wondering. the ion engines we make might be meager. but is there something preventing an engine working with the same principle from shoving a large quantity of the same ions out of its pipes. i mean the issue with nasas ion engines is the low amount of matter that is used in the propulsion. wouldnt more mass being pushed out with the same speed translate to more thrust. with the added bonus of positively charged particles repelling each other so with a lot of positively charged particles behind you, you would actually have something to push against, (with more positively charged particles).

[@SeraphimCramer]

Maybe the "twin" in twin ion engine isn't saying TIE fighters have two ion engines, but the twin ion engine in Star Wars is actually somehow utilizing a combination of two different types of ions to exponentially multiply the force & acceleration produced by the engine? (on a different note, where exactly _is_ the engine/thrusters on a TIE fighter?)

[@followeroc2]

question: Wouldn't the act of shooting laser blasts towards its enemies also be too much for an ion engine to compensate for, and wouldn't that make for a very jerky ride? and How well would a tie fighter deal with atmosphere? Would there be too much friction, thus making the ion engine worthless? Are there any ion engine applications that are being used now on earth?

[@MachtPlays]

4:30 ..Perhaps Tie fighters use Ion propulsion similarly to how we use turbo chargers..Twin Ion engine..instead of twin turbo engine (meaning the Ion / Turbos are not main propulsion source)

[@cameronmclean9326]

Maybe in the Star Wars universe, They have advanced so much so, that they made them so small and produce more thrust and atttached many of them to the TIE fighter

[@brooksdanielgary]

Question: If you were a spec of light, everything around you is moving at "light speed" relative to you. So why is it impossible to move matter at light speed if it already is at light speed (kinda)? If an ion engine constantly accelerates, but it doesn't move relative to itself, then shouldn't it be able to approach light speed eventually?

[@Deitousbeenie]

I've always assumed that the maneuvering of a tie comes from a complex array of centrifugal panels that open and close on its wings according to a program that converts the pilot's movements into the maneuver that would match. By the way it sounds from the video, the propulsion system of a TIE is so energy efficient, that it doesn't need solar panels to keep moving forward, rather, supply this panel system with the energy it need to function.

[@LivTheCyberdhole]

in order to counteract the acceleration problem... couldn't it be a hybrid chemical/ion engine? Chemical fuel for acceleration and swift movements, and Ion engines for speed maintenance and fuel conservation? going to admit that I don't know a tonne about rockets and shit, but that makes sense to me.

[@kor3rdn311]

3:36 is that supposed to be 320,000 like he writes down or is it the 32,000 that he says?

[@MercenaryX21]

I think an idea might be that what we have is an ion engine is the most primitive form of an eye on engine in comparison to the TIE fighter in Star Wars, what I think is that they figure out a way to make the ion engine as efficient as it is be as powerful as something like a chemical rocket, how they do that I don't know but it might have something to do with the wings and how they're so big and wide. Like its doing a 1000 of those engines at once, like mass quantity of miniature engine forcing the speed.

[@HeliosLives]

you can increase thrust in an ion engine bybincreasing fueal flow and applying a metric fucktone of voltage.

[@OzoneoceanMJM]

They're really known as "Tie-fighters" because they look like bow-ties. :) Like the X-wings are "X"s, the A is an "A" shape etc.

[@nickvinsable3798]

The reason TIE Fighters are able to engage in Atmospheric Flight is because they have Magnetic Based Armor. With Magnetic Based Armor, which functions as another type of Shield, where it could Grab Air Particles to Move & Maneuver. As a Shield, it is Capable of Blocking & Deflecting Micro Particles, but nothing as big as the Rocks around Hoth (Star Wars: the Empire Strikes Back).

[@codygarland6365]

This is like rocket science for dummies "It looks like they are going INTO the ground, but they are really goin upwards" OMG DIDNT SEE IT COMING

[@skyflier8955]

This sounds like EARLY jets. They could go fast, much faster then prop planes of the time, but, for example, I will be using the Messersmitt Me262. It took a while to get up to the speeds that props could not match in level flight, whereas the props, coming off of a runway, will take off MUCH faster then the Me262. And now, jet engines are so advanced, we are having them takeoff straight up! This is just the exact same thing! After a while, we will have refined the design to where it CAN do these things! HAVE HOPE! A NEW HOPE FOR TIE FIGHTERS!!!

[@gr1nder07]

"twin - 2 , 3 see the acronym works out!" should've added "tri, 3", it works all 4 ways!

[@xaytana]

What if you put an ion engine, or an array of ion engines, inside another larger ion engine? It'd have pre-accelerated particles that go through the process a second time creating an even faster particle, along with the second engine having a vastly larger output. If you get the particles fast enough, could you not have fast acceleration and maneuverability?

[@horaciogabrielgiuntonialva4204]

Another characteristic of TIE fighters was that these haven't warp speed 2 avoid troopers desertion (reason why the roge trooper from episode 7 needs 2 crash in the nearest planet instead of just warp away) Salutations!

[@augustbiernbaum4841]

He says 32,000, writes 320,000 . *inserts 8 bit sunglasses*

[@Azereiah]

A TIE fighter canonically also has a fusion reactor built in. Perhaps via the use of superconductors, they're managing to channel absolutely ludicrous amounts of power into the engines, thus accelerating the ions to relativistic velocities?

[@alexeikafe5388]

what about a hybrid between an ion engine and a "traditional" engine? it uses mainly the ion engine when at cruise control in space, but uses the other engine to get the ship to a speed, and could even use a present day fighter jet engine when cruising in earth like athmosphere planets

[@JuanGonzalez-pd2ib]

+Kyle Hill feels like im back in my ARO propulsion class lol (kind of)

[@thatoneguy2659]

There are three types of Tie Fighters 1: the Twin Ion Engine Foghters in Star Wars 2: Thailand’s Military 3: NASA’s TIE Fighters

[@user-oy9zy4ds9m]

My guess is that tie fighters have some sort of fictional ionic thrust capacitors that store and build up the ionic power over time and can be rapidly depleted for quick maneuvers and rapid speed gain and even power the blasters

[@dakillertta]

Maybe that cable that the tie got stuck on when trying to get pie back to Jakku is some sort of charger that adds "fuel" or maybe it's just a lock just a theory