How Wearing Multiple Miraculouses Damaged Chloe’s Mind (Insane Theory)

[@katelynallison6036]

You forgot about Chole losing her childhood best friend. Adrien he broke off his friend ship with her and she didn't even care. Instead she just started calling him adri-nothing. And making fun of him for liking Marinette. Even tho she claimed to be in love with Adrien she treated him horrible. And you also for about how Gabriel was using the rings to control Adrien because of his madness.

[@JordanDinelle]

adri-nothing*

[@stashiapie6403]

I hate to say that you're right but when she lost she had no idea what she was doing because she needed help because Chloe may have a Kardashian when she was little either that or she her mother hated her I kind of feel sorry

[@billykaplan9915]

Actually if you think about it both characters loose it when they started using all miraculous like they forsake the things they loved the most over their obsession and that would fix many problems In the series

[@stefaniarusso]

​@@stashiapie6403yeah I agree

[@GabrielTaruc]

Chole💀

[@grzegorzmizerski4187]

Well... Gabriel Agreste did wore multiple miraculouses in season 5 as Monarch, which might have affected him not just physically but also mentally. That would explain why Gabriel was acting much more villainous than in previous seasons. However he wore them much longer than Chloe, so I don't think she lost her redeeming qualities for the same reason as Gabriel.

[@speedylitsonic7347]

He reforged them so he could handle that power. He can handle five powers at once.

[@grzegorzmizerski4187]

​@@speedylitsonic7347 There was one time Monarch used more than 5 miraculous powers. In the episode "Intuition" he used, Second Chance, Voyage, Genesis. Mirage, Shellter and Venom. Those are six powers in total.

[@speedylitsonic7347]

@@grzegorzmizerski4187 It was almost too much before him anyway, so he went down to five to stabilize his power.

[@billykaplan9915]

@@speedylitsonic7347 yes but he did wear them all on evolution and let's remember destruction so that may have damaged his mind enough to forsake Emilie in favor of beating ladybug

[@speedylitsonic7347]

@@billykaplan9915 Some people are pure evil when they're known as villains. Other people are like that when they've been through a lot. Gabriel didn't want to be a villain, but he chose to. To find a way to get his wife back.

[@pegasuspony139]

I actually liked Chloe when she became the holder of the bee miraculous but the creature just ruined her they did that because they hate Chloe giving Chloe a redemption arc was the best thing I started to like Chloe when that redemption arc happened she started to slowly become nice that was a really good redemption arc. Why not have Chloe become a good nice person I hope they give her a good redemption arc in the future I hope she stands up to her mom and learn that what she’s been doing to people was wrong.

[@FJVH2210]

Queen Bee, Vesperia, Golden Bug, Monarch

[@Ztpwillow_]

Sadly that never gonna happened because the creator made Chloe the way she is because a bully in the creator past childhood was based off of her. So Chloe is the creator childhood bully in 3D form. Thomas Astruc, the creator also said that Chloe won’t have another redemption arc, because she’s is redeemable, meaning she will never change. But Thomas doesn’t know people can change hinting in season 2 and the beginning of season 3 Chloe did change for the good. But yeah sadly no more good Chloe 😢😢😢

[@pegasuspony139]

@@Ztpwillow_ this is really stupid some people can change

[@CreativeStoryteller35]

I never thought of this. I wonder if this really is why Chloe took such a huge turn.

[@meetjohari6225]

Actually marinettes hate for Lila did grew due to her using all miracolouses so I think she is a bit of exception but not completely

[@austinchad6012]

You do realize that master fu said it chould make you lose you mind but only if you can't handle the power and strain of using multiple miraculous at the same time all at once marinette's strong will power protected her from go insane and losing her mind

[@austinchad6012]

And we also have to mention that Cloe only wear the miraculous but didn't have them activated and we all know that wearing non activated miraculous is harmless to the user

[@meetjohari6225]

No but like he said it enhances the negative feeling and that's what led to marinette hating Lila more than ever

[@austinchad6012]

You don't understand the miraculous at all as long as there used for good reasons and intentions that don't corrupt the user

[@allisonvoght9222]

No, Marinette's hate for Lila grew because her lies crossed more than a couple of lines.

[@OLMAGICGIRL2881]

Wait because of this i got a theory what if wearing multiple miraculous also damaged Gabriels brain that explains the dance and what he did in evolution

[@stefaniarusso]

Yes 😊

[@Hotgirlenergy]

The dance 💀

[@Selena223]

​@@HotgirlenergyThe most of few things that were werid in Season 5

[@manuelaalicemocanu]

That dance was so shocking & unexpected ​@@Hotgirlenergy

[@4runner2005]

Omg that dance kills me loll😂😂😂😂

[@virenderkaur9038]

What a theory!! Did anyone ever think of this before? I never saw this theory anywhere until now. Perfect!👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼

[@MariamAlshair]

I don't get it and are you ok bc u look very mad-ish 3:38

[@mpanamashile3901]

I want to see how Chloe is going to living in New York with her mother. I wish She could have changed and I have to say she turned the tables in Season 5

[@Avatar.and.PokemonFan2002]

Me: Actually she's living in London now. For the time being till Chole in miraculous Season 4 & 5 could get the redemption arc she deserves

[@stefaniarusso]

​@@Avatar.and.PokemonFan2002omg yes

[@brodypl5804]

She's in London now not NY.

[@missims1003]

Another thing that could effect behavior is the people you hang out with so her hanging out with the evil liar Lila aka Cerise Chloe started going downhill on her behavior .

[@colleencartoon9576]

It's not fair that Chloe has to remaining until the end of her days in the series of miraculous! I really wanted Chloe to working herself but that's the same thing I felt about my mom when she was alive and she was a bit mean too! Unfortunately there are some people who cannot change and there are other people who cannot change anyone else either! What about my mom she passed away this year on st. Patty's Day 2023! And ever since she died I really didn't know what to do anymore! Sometimes I feel like I'm losing everything! As much as I know that Chloe's not going to change I sometimes feel bad for her! But I'm not spoiled brat like Chloe but the thing is I love to paint and I love making cartoons and I collect stuffed animals which are toy cats! And since Ladybug and Cat Noir lives in Paris and made me thought of the Aristocats because O'Malley Duchess and the kittens live in Paris too! It's just not fair that they had to name a snob Chloe but the creators of miraculous Ladybug have their own styles of making their own cartoons and other episodes in the cartoon! Mostly as much as I hate Chloe when she was being mean I really wish that she would redeem herself come back to Paris and she won't be such a bully anymore! Unfortunately that's not the case!😢

[@debi_shay9072]

I actually feel so stupid- i thought multi mouse nearly fainting when opening the door was something to do with the mouse miraculous and an adversion to light- I didnt realize it was cuz she simply put on every miraculous-

[@vinthecartoonist6878]

Chloe's having no redemption represents life's harsh reality which maybe the reasons why the creators of miraculous don't want her to have any redemption arc, at least for the time being.

[@ИванКорнилов-у7ю]

Felix: take my bear😅

[@riya2326]

I wish this was true this would have been a great way to show how powerful and dangerous the miraculous are but i think it's still bc the creator hates Chloe

[@violent-firelight]

5:30 I think master fu meant go crazy with power. As in playing god with so much power.

[@zhumm1759]

The kwami's are basically gods, using too many powers at once may overload them. Marinette is naturally good and may have the mental strength to use multiple miraculous with minimal effects

[@ИванКорнилов-у7ю]

Marinett - Mary Sew

[@siddhi43]

Kwami, Kami. Kami means god in Japanese

[@nathanspradlin8570]

The fact the Marinette is a Mary Sue is the reason she didn't "mentally decline" and the reason Chloe was teased to be possibly redeemed and later reneged in season 3 is because Thomas HATES Chloe and wanted to show without Chloe (and Gabriel), Paris became a futuristic utopia with Ms. Bustier in charged. After season 3, I stopped caring about this show in general and hope one day it will eventually end and we can move on with our lives.

[@SweetSentiLight101]

shes (mari) not a marys ue, she has flaws and she faced consequences but whatever i respect u ❤

[@nathanspradlin8570]

@@SweetSentiLight101 she is loved by everyone and her only REAL flaw is clumsiness. But you "respect" me right?

[@SweetSentiLight101]

@@nathanspradlin8570 i guess but it seems like u are being sacrastic or something but oh well...i guess its a yes

[@nathanspradlin8570]

@@SweetSentiLight101 to be honest, I was being sarcastic but that's only because you were being arguementive with me.

[@SweetSentiLight101]

@@nathanspradlin8570 srry about that,I just don’t like it when Mari got hates, because every where I go I see some people hating her.

[@chineseman6580]

Okay this makes sooo much more sense.

[@sun12146playlists]

I don't think it damaged Chloes mind. 1 she didn't wear them all THAT long compared to marinate and Gabriel 2. it affected Gabriels mind and physically and mentally affected him.cuz he wore them for so long and as fu says "wearing too much Miraculous at the same time is dangerous it could make you lose your mind" Chloe only wore them for a few seconds so it probably did not damage Chloes mind 3. She didn't transform with them on

[@MajarahArxias]

Can you make your next video on this theory of Gabriel's wish might have revived the lives of those who used the damaged miraculous and the person could have been Emile. Also you could include that it might have revived Felix's father and he might appear in season 6 as a new troublesome character. By the way I love your miraculous theory videos.

[@SchultzDorinda]

Gabriel's wish only brought Nathalie back to life by trading his own. He reunited with Émilie in death. The woman next to Nathalie is Amélie.

[@siddhi43]

Bro could've wished another miraculous was broken :/

[@GothNebula]

That is possible but she didn’t wield every single miraculous like Monarch. From what I think, her multiple akumatizations is what made her lose her mind. She clings into so much power by greed which leads to obsession. Think of it like in ancient times or medieval times, royalties have rules for a new king or queen. But the prince or princess must learn compassion to pass their test. If they cling into power too much, their madness will lead to destroying every other kingdoms for power. They must learn to not cling into power. They must use that power for the greater good for their people and their kingdom. If they don’t, they are only seeking glory for themselves by backstabbing. Especially for personal gain leading to disasters. Therefore, Chloe is nothing like a Queen at all because a true Queen has compassion, not tyranny. She threw everything away for her own glory and when she lost, she is exiled because her father is doing this for the people of Paris to never live in fear or their lives ruined by Chloe ever again. Therefore, Chloe lost everything.

[@israelarzate9061]

Yes but the creators said she wasn’t supposed to have a redemption ark at all I wasn’t shocked I was shocked she was changing

[@antoniomejia9348]

You know, you could’ve ended this video with Marinette calling Chloe Ridiculous. Utterly Ridiculous!

[@ИванКорнилов-у7ю]

Ridiculous: Tales of Qween Bee

[@alexbynkov3887]

Wow, that’s a really interesting theorz

[@lazybutter9743]

Tbh marinette personally doesn't really matter because she still get's weak when she use all the miraculous. Master Oogway : The more you take, the less you have.

[@Vidavida16th]

To Chloe's defense though, in the episode before miracle queen, Marinette let her emotions overcome her, due to her jealousy she picked the dragon miraculous because kagami was with adrien and not the bee miraculous which made Chloe feel betrayed, it's her parents that got akumatised at which marinette probably didn't know at that time, we all know that Chloe isn't an patient person, she's prideful, and i think she deserves a redemption arc, in season 6 she probably won't appear but just imagine season 7 being her comeback due to some mistake of ladybug, remember after season 5 she is in new york, she can change and make a comeback in season 7, with controlled emotions, and very mature, she just needs some time

[@polishalastor142]

In London Chloe is heartless and Evil

[@austinchad6012]

Imagine if she comes back even more evil and heartless and ready to kill marinette in revenge

[@Gabe.j-sh2gp]

I kinda feel bad for chloe the last time we see her shes crying and i want her to get another redemption arc

[@ДанилоФедоров-з1т]

But shouldn't Miraculous Ladybug cure Chloe in this case?

[@billykaplan9915]

It's probably something it can't cure so

[@ДанилоФедоров-з1т]

@@billykaplan9915 , restore the whole planet - yes! Cure 1 person - noooo!😅

[@billykaplan9915]

@@ДанилоФедоров-з1т it have a lot of rules so perhaps it can't cure the madness created by a miraculous it would fix some problems really

[@staydetermined6717]

@@ДанилоФедоров-з1т Do remember chat used cataclysm on gabe and the cure didn’t fix it

[@ibbeibbe7051]

Gabriel wants to get ladybug's miraculous

[@chromxrobinandcorrinxcamil9031]

Ah yes, Asstruc’s victim…

[@polishalastor142]

She propably was based on Thomas Astruc bully

[@tiahansen1635]

I said smthg along these lines with mari a while back :P she used the miraculous to get closer with adrian in the earlier episodes. So that made her obsessed

[@ikbenmaxim]

5:25 cause of the cataclysm on his arm he worries about

[@stefaniarusso]

Yeah I agree

[@Linda_ywr]

I know that thomas hate her but i didn't know he hate her that much really sad

[@gameomer1855]

This line from the Miraculous Wiki will explain everything you need to know about Chloe: It is shown via Chloé's behavior that, because of her attitude and possibly how she was raised, she didn't fully understand one of the main responsibilities of being a true hero is selflessness. By giving up her powers, she was unknowingly protecting everyone in her life from Paris' villains. Through her actions, just as Hawk Moth used his family's love to cover his guilt of akumatizing innocent civilians, Chloé did the same to cover up her desire for power and glory. Although Chloé was eager to do good as a superhero, she lacked commitment to continue her duties without her superpowers. Even though Chloé made efforts to make up for some of her mistakes before "Miracle Queen", she did not make an effort to maintain this change or attempted to make up for them, implying that she did not feel compelled to acknowledge her past mistakes, let alone admit that she needed to change her behavior and apologize to those she wronged and took advantage of so long as she still bared the title of a hero, leaving the impression that Chloé did not see the need for self-improvement so long as she continued to obtain what she wanted and to become Queen Bee at her own request rather than Ladybug's. So in conclusion Chloe has never had a redemption arc it was just part of the Bourgeois arc that started from season 1 "The Bubbler" (or canonically "Ladybug and Cat Noir" and "Stoneheart") to season 5 "Revolution"

[@x_void_princess_x]

I think she could've even gotten a different miraculous

[@gameomer1855]

@@x_void_princess_x Or use her title as daughter of the mayor to actually help others rather than ruin their day

[@x_void_princess_x]

@@gameomer1855 exactly like force her dad to stop the oxygen project

[@gameomer1855]

@@x_void_princess_x What do you mean

[@x_void_princess_x]

@@gameomer1855 the project from the environmental episode

[@JuniorGustabo]

It would be interesting to see Chloe in a better show like Infinity Train, Mob Psycho 100 or BoJack Horseman.

[@AshBlueFox16]

Fair enough

[@Vahria-2_Rivaha-4_]

Marinette also wear twice as much as her and be unharmed. Chloe become aggressive and Gabriel got mad and electrified. So Master Fu has right with her. But I'm hyped what the future will show.

[@ИванКорнилов-у7ю]

Marinett - Mary Sew

[@vilmalazzarini8847]

maybe in season 6 she will have a change of heart

[@stefaniarusso]

Omg yes 😊 🤩

[@brodypl5804]

Definetly not. With the way they assasinate her every time she's on screen, making her cartoonishly evil, they'll probobly make her commit something fucked up just so they can make her more irredemable. Like genoci-

[@hamzawaine8427]

Guys honestly I believe the redemption arc in queens battle was real in the sense we got to see the tru Chloe. However the writers did a u turn and decided to make her evil not to mention make ladybug a hypocrite in the sense of giving miraculous to holders whose identity was known to hawk moth. Like fr Chloe could have still been called upon but that was wasted potential. We could have saw her good side n seen her face and have a background off y she belittles everyone. Chloe did deserve better in my opinion

[@TirasBattiste]

I saw chole were all the miraculous in the last episode of season 3

[@timebubble8421]

It's a nice theory that makes the writing less frustrating but i don't think it was their intention as they would have made a comment about it. Because the show is very good at telling you everything instead of showing you.

[@queenofdisney4932]

But doesn't that only make sense if you fouses the pawers

[@shehryarahsan2357]

Amazing theory

[@Tomadachi92]

Explains why Marinette stalks alot since she did the same in kwami buster

[@ИванКорнилов-у7ю]

Mary Sew

[@MrSalazar395]

We'll see her again in season 6.

[@violent-firelight]

7:43 wait what miraculous ladybug is ganna have a 6 season? I thought the show was over ?isn’t the show over?

[@Woopog]

This would explain why ladybug and cat noir's personality changes while wearing the miraculouses

[@virenderkaur9038]

6:52 😶😶 what are they doing??

[@ranivarghese100]

I cant wait for s6 ep 1

[@violettracey]

Thanks!

[@AshBlueFox16]

7:34 Chloe didn’t start off as a nice character

[@stefaniarusso]

I agree

[@tevinhoward4419]

That mean rich girl is an absolute menace she'll never change and no redemption

[@AD_YTChannel]

She had a good redemption but it got ruined because the "creator didnt like her"....

[@stefaniarusso]

​@@AD_YTChannelI agree

[@liaheben]

your point is ruined by Astruc's hate and activity in twitter(X

[@pokemontrainerbubbamiibria4866]

Chloe is not really anymore with ladybug. He went to New York and become something like nonsense and stole those items and listen to Lila. And become the mayor.

[@Jayfeather4x]

my thing with this theory is that it just doesnt make sense why kwamis would affect someone like this. They have been inately created to do good and in hands of marinette and gabriel from literal confirmed consequences we have seen fatigue, pain and exhaustion which makes sense. I dont really feel like exposure to miraculouses would logically promote agression, evil etc. you can argue that exposure to power makes people less sympathetic and this is a general thing not tied to kwamis so this could explain gabriel getting worse and worse but not rly chloe as she very briefly had all miraculouses and continued regressing after loosing the power. cool theory but sadly not very believable for me

[@israelarzate9061]

Exposure what are u talking about she only had them on and never used them marentie only got weak when she transformed I dotn believ this theory

[@phantom115cw]

She brought it upon herself

[@OldGamerGR]

Also it was because of lila and maybe because of her childhood.

[@violent-firelight]

Yeah if she became good the show would have had more popularity and be good

[@adrianaparker5401]

Chloe Disney villains From adriana Parker

[@kubranurerdem9196]

That would be awesome if that is true.

[@alexbynkov3887]

Theory

[@kanomsakuramoji]

I love Chloe bourgeois so I don’t like it that ladybug took the miraculous back

[@aimeelopez5971]

HGLoe he tell marinnette hehave tack which Grabriel for rescuers EmiLie and nathaLie he have the informantion he is the momthers pf Liv

[@bestianegra3725]

Cannon

[@sarahheintz2479]

Fourth

[@HowToBeUnfamous]

I feel kinda bad for chloe

[@gachagaming495]

Shy didn’t get damaged she didn’t transform

[@hoppie4263]

It didn’t damage her

[@aimeelopez5971]

Marinette he say to HGLoe why happen to her he have more montivers and LiLa he need somesones the kinnerpper marinette and thems marinette he gion the tips in times for why HGLoe so means him

[@rockstarbonnie4508]

Chloe wore them but never used at least two of them, so I doubt the damage, and she just a brat. Plus Marinette wore multiple miraculous one time, and even used 4 and she's fine.

[@usernotfound_____yet]

Mari is the main character so obviously she won't get affected or hurt

[@waniagame2840]

@@usernotfound_____yet zoe lee felix chloe plane crash miraculous? I just want to know if you guys want to know if you 4 guys are doing better today and then I will let you!😢😢😢 😊😊

[@abby-cadabby]

How Marinette is able to use multiple miraculouses without side effects is because she's a Mari-Sue. Technically, she did use her lucky charm out of jealousy like in Bubbler and in S3 finale part 1. I can understand if a person has a positive or pure mindset then perhaps wielding all or at least most of the miraculouses then it could work on someone like Marinette, but she's a stalker and does pretty questionable things including the fact that she gave up on Chloe all because of a mistake Ladybug made that made Chloe go against her (through her mistake, it made Chloe feel betrayed or ignored by her idol and Hawkmoth used that feeling to his advantage and manipulated her into doing the action she would soon make). No person is unredeemable, some people might not want to change but Chloe did back in Season 2 and I think is utterly ridiculous that they had to permanently get rid of her arc. I doubt they would give her her redemption back in the show, but I hope that the movies and the manga will do her justice.

[@gianpaolovillani6321]

We need to convince Jeremy Zag to take over from thomasastruc to fix and change Chloe Bourgeois' redemption. We have to help her! Chloe deserves another chance to do good in future seasons as Queen Bee. Jeremy Zag must take the place of Thomasastruc to lead poor Chloe back on the path of goodness.

[@polishalastor142]

Chloe is heartless and Evil She propably was based on Thomas Astruc bully

[@gianpaolovillani6321]

@@polishalastor142 I don't believe it at all. Chloe deserves another chance to do good!

[@jorgeandresacero4408]

Thomas Astruc is not going to replace anyone, he is in charge and the most powerful director because he is the creator of the series and the full weight of the law applies.

[@waniagame2840]

@@jorgeandresacero4408 zoe lee felix chloe plane crash miraculous?…😢😢😢 😊😊 ❤

[@aimeelopez5971]

The teachersfu tol marinette why the truoch Ladybug ingency and the another probLem is LiLa he more istenristen HGLoe nneed her mom

[@HawaAbdullahi-y8u]

Baker girl is smart than you

[@Firehub99]

Third!!

[@ombratixied]

Second pls pin!

[@davidruithetrailblazer4654]

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