How Well Do I Know CANZUK Countries?

[@jnyYT]

Even on toycat's videos, New Zealand still isn't visible on the map

[@davisvoelzke8011]

It is though

[@sshortcuts3994]

​@@davisvoelzke8011no, his favecam is in the way

[@Fleeglebutt]

That's okay. We're used to it...

[@phart325]

@@davisvoelzke8011it is tough

[@NS-pz8nb]

I was waiting for "What is the capital of the Australian Capital Territory?" a) Canberra b) Canberra c) Canberra d) Canberra

[@wattlefox]

real

[@CharlesGregory]

I think Papua New Guinea gained it's independence in 1975 from Australia.

[@lai17]

its

[@marcusg3678]

I believe this is correct

[@priceprice_baby]

That is correct

[@voongnz]

CANZUK would be the most dominant Olympic country of all time.

[@wiseandstrong3386]

No it wouldn't the US beats you.

[@braytongoodall2598]

New Zealand was never a state of Australia, but it was a part of New South Wales (the only part of mainland Australia that wasn't a part of NSW was Western Australia: all the other colonies split off from it). Instead NZ is mentioned in the preamble to the Commonwealth constitution, but the preamble is technically different from the core so even though all copies of "the constitution" (the document) include the preamble, it isn't quite part of "the constitution" (the legal instrument). The colony of NZ (and Fiji) was invited to federation but didn't join. I think Papua New Guinea was administered through the Commonwealth as a territory but never as a pre-federation colonial possession. The Australian states aren't "entrenched" in the sense that like the US constition, new states can be added without an amendment. However they are mentioned in the core constitution itself. The core constitution defines three classes of membership: original states, states, and territories. Original states have slightly more protection against dilution of parliamentary representation and are enshrined. There have been no new states. So while New Zealand is mentioned as a state in the preamble, that merely conferred eligibility to be defined as a state in the constitution itself. Western Australia is defined as both a state and an original state if I'm not mistaken, since it wasn't clear that it'd join on day 1, if it'd join later on, or if it'd never join. So while it didn't have a "right to join" it still could've been entrenched as a state even if it didn't join initially. Sadly New Zealand wouldn't be entrenched if it joined today, but we could run an referendum and amend it.

[@ciaranReal]

I see a CANZUK video I click, I like. I'm a simple man 🇬🇧 🤝 🇨🇦 🇦🇺 🇳🇿

[@estraume]

The top 3 trading partners of Canada are: United States. Trade Value($):377,983,779.66. Share(%): 75.36. China. Trade Value($):22,404,738.50. Share(%): 4.47. United Kingdom. Trade Value($):13,155,173.16. Share(%): 2.62. Maybe free movement of people between the CANZUK Countries and a common immigration policy for people trying to enter from outside CANZUK would make more sense, and then deal with trade between countries as a separate matter?

[@vinniechan]

All the countries are now members of CPTPP

[@togerboy5396]

What about the CPTPP acting as a de jure trading agreement?

[@AnimeReference]

So we're all on board for a stop-the-boats style anti-immigration policy?

[@Dushmann_]

this is going to sound kind of corny, but the UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand (and the US to a ever so slightly lesser extent) aren't simply "allies" - they're family. As a British person, if Australia or Canada were to be invaded, I would take it personal. I know for a fact that we would rush to each others aid in the event of an invasion/war, and not because we're obligated to do so by some treaty, but because we're family. An attack against one of us is an attack against all. Even if NATO and other defense agreements didn't exist, we would still defend each others countries at the drop of a hat. NATO is great and all and of course the Germans and French are good allies, but they're not 100% reliable because why would they be? Just because their government signed a piece of paper for mutual defense? But when it comes to Canada, Australia, NZ, UK and even the US, we know that we can count on each others loyalty no matter what. Whether or not we'd come to the aid of each others countries is not up for debate. We WOULD come to each others aid. There's absolutely no doubt about it.

[@SkyHighSkylar]

I’m Australian and I feel the same way. New Zealand especially is like a brother, and the UK, Canada, and perhaps to a lesser extent the US are also all family to me. I would also take it personal if someone invaded any of these countries and although I’m not a fighter and have no desire to go to war, I would likely find myself overcome with such sheer anger in that situation that I would enlist. I believe in more closer ties between the Commonwealth, and I’ve never made that a secret. I think the best way to ultimately go about that would be an EU-style approach. However, I don’t particularly desire an outright federalisation of our countries unless it were to develop naturally out of an EU-style system over the course of many, many decades by mutual consent of each country involved. New Zealand and Australia already have some very close ties and policies between us that one could say are basically EU-lite. I think the place to start for us would be to expand those foreign policies to include the UK and Canada.

[@AnimeReference]

I think these priorities don't quite align. Australia cares about NZ (they are pseudo citizens here), but probably USA next (for military matters, not immigration). Canada cares way more about USA than anyone (trade). Britain doesn't seem to overly care about ANZACs, or maybe anyone as much (militarily). Australia and Canada aren't that close. NZ is a pretty good international citizen, unlike anyone else.

[@bigtex4864]

​@@SkyHighSkylarI think it would be awesome if we could all unite under a common tongue and culture, kind of like how Germany and Italy formed.

[@LordMelbury1953]

In Canada but after ancestry DNA test cousins in UK Australia NZ USA even the Isle of Man the Manxmen.

[@Dushmann_]

@@AnimeReference what you're talking about is geopolitics. what I'm talking about is, basically, tribalism. just so we're on the same page about what i mean by "tribalism": _Tribalism is the tendency of humans to form social groups and identify with them, which can lead to in-group favoritism and out-group discrimination_ Australians, Canadians, English, Scottish, Welsh, Irish, Ulster-Scots, Manx, Cornish and even most [White] Americans all share not only the same language and culture, but also the same ethnicity. We are literally the same people, just living in different parts of the world. This is the result of British settler colonialism. We are all members of the same "tribe" - this Anglo-Celtic tribe. When I said that we would rush to each others aid, I wasn't necessarily talking about, for example, the British government officially declaring war and sending soldiers to defend Canada or Australia. I was talking about British people going to defend Canada/Australia of their own free-will, regardless of whether the British government officially declares war and sends troops or not. Because this goes beyond nationality and politics. It's tribal. Like I said, it's like family. When I read about Russian or Ukrainian soldiers getting killed, there's a kind of disconnect because they're not my people. But if I was to hear/read about Australians or Canadians or Americans getting killed, it would bother me, because they are my people. During WW2 there was a very famous picture of an Australian soldier getting beheaded by a Japanese soldier. That picture absolutely enraged the British, Canadians, Americans and of course the Australian people. They would have seen plenty of pictures of Chinese people getting killed by the Japanese, but it was only when it was a picture of one of "our guys" that it affected us emotionally and made us angry. I don't think that a picture of a French soldier getting beheaded would have illicited the same reaction. During WW1, there was a story of a Canadian soldier who was crucified by the Germans. This story probably wasn't true, but it enraged the British/Canadian/Australian/American public nonetheless - do you think they would have been so angry if it were a French soldier who was crucified? I genuinley don't think so. They may have a passport that's different to mine, but ultimately we're the same. Not just on the same side, not just allies - literally the same people who belong to the same tribe. Our enemies see us as part of the same tribe too, by the way. The Russians refer to us collectively as "Anglo-Saxons", and the Chinese do too. Our militaries and intelligence agencies are so intertwined that they're effectively the same thing - 5 Eyes. The "Anglo-Saxon" countries share intelligence and military technology with each other that they would never, ever consider sharing with anyone else. This level of trust goes beyond geopolitics and ideological alignment and treaties. It's much, much deeper than that. (Also, ancestry "studies" that are based on self-reported data would have you believe that Americans are German, but Americans are actually primarily of English/Irish/Scottish/Welsh stock, but they're not as "pure" Anglo-Celtic as Canadians, Australians, New Zealanders and British, but America is still 100% culturally Anglo).

[@korakys]

NZ and Australia already have a sort of EU-lite thing going on. CANZAUK is mostly just about expanding that out to the UK and Canada. A full political union is not on the cards, at all.

[@SkyHighSkylar]

exactly what I’m thinking. i don’t particularly want federalisation of all the countries into one, but i could easily be convinced by an EU style approach

[@WildVoltorb]

But why though? This will only make your political system more bloated, expensive and burocratic. That's almost like going back to the British empire days. Why did you guys even asked for independence in the first place? It makes no sense to me

[@ibxjackcat2565]

@@WildVoltorbthe difference is they would be equal partners now

[@paulhelsby]

The capitol for it (like Brussels is for the EU) would have to be outside of the UK for it to work fairly and not ache of the London trying to get its empire back. Toronto or Wellington would be good candidates.

[@AnimeReference]

@@WildVoltorb You could argue they're not independent at all. Aren't they all constitutional monarchies with a shared king? Agreements like these are probably best though. Foreign politicians generally have no clue, and the further the country the worse that is. I'm not going to tell a Canadian about snow ploughing and they're not going to tell me about bushfires for instance. Could they share a currency? Maybe, maybe not. UK's currency isn't similar, like all the others. Canada and Aus/NZ are similar but they have different dependencies and trade partners (none of these countries are close trade powers). So it's not really the case that we sink or swim together.

[@MCLegend13]

CANZUK needs to happen. This country needs a new place in the world after Brexit and CANZUK is the greatest chance we have at something new.

[@thebombplayer2986]

Papau new guinea didn't get independence from the UK, But rather from Australia

[@Highland_Beastie]

He pronounced Dunedin Doon Din, DOON DIN!

[@SeaninsShelf]

I've never even been to NZ but almost died when I heard his pronunciation of it

[@eatadolphin]

For those wondering, its Done - EE - Din

[@Perun944]

Doon Din _lmao_

[@DuckOfRubber]

If you’ve been to the South Island, you have almost certainly been to Queenstown. All of the tourists go there. Its close to several national parks and the location for most of New Zealand’s more “extreme” activities. (bungy jumping, whitewater rafting, jet boats, ATVs, etc)

[@sigithesauropod3340]

The Australian States quiz misses a lot of island territories, as well as the jervis bay territory for some reason.

[@HfrdH4]

0:35 I got so confused thinking the arrow was pointing at New Zealand and you were saying that you were a Kiwi 😂

[@TommyCrosby]

I'm Canadian and I can't spell Saskatchewan either. (My phone keyboard do it for me)

[@adamwidmer1705]

Toycat: How do you write Saskatchewan? Every Canadian thinking back on elementary school geography class: How can I write Saskatchewan on a Canadian map?

[@smaza2]

petition for us to drop the weakest link, and reform it into CANZ

[@youabsolutelegend1265]

doon-din🤣

[@kontiuka]

Normally, you have to wait for hundreds of millions of years of continental drift to bring continents together. CANZUK aims to speed that up considerably.

[@LordMelbury1953]

Rhodesia

[@rocksandforestquiver959]

12:00 Canadian Independence is realistically 1931 or 1982 depending on one's exact definition or framing of the idea. I tend to go with 1931 personally while acknowledging that we weren't fully sovereign until '82.

[@maciborson5932]

we got 2cat swearing before gta 6

[@maniacsmaxs6815]

Bruh.I didn't think I would live to see toycat swear.I have lived a full life.

[@RounderRounder]

We’re getting the band back together.

[@braytongoodall2598]

I'd be a fan of CANZUK resembling the Articles of Confederation + a bill of unusual rights. Cede some power from top-level governments and then some more from the states and provinces too. Extensive mutual citizenship clauses but like the AoC, keep immigration on the national level. Have clauses covering the states, provinces and possibly devolved houses too (Churchill was a fan of federalising the UK, but didn't follow through with the idea). Unless the East African Federation happens without rewriting Tanzania-Zanzibar relations, the only "federation of federations" will have been the USSR via the Russian SFSR. I don't know how the Canada Act 1982 works (but amending their constitution is qutie tricky), but Australia has a very odd slightly confederal dimension through the Australia Acts 1986, since it allows a consensus of state parliaments and the federal parliament to amend parts of the acts and quasi-constitutional statute. The New Zealand Act 1986 also ended appeals to the privy council. Imperial Conferences 1926 and 1930 restricted the powers of the UK parliament to legislation for the dominions, but I'm not sure how restricted this was. It'd be interesting to see a weak CANZUK parliament with strong rights protections, acting mostly as a coordinator (like congress with interstate compacts in the US).

[@Bear-c4x]

If the articles of confederation didn’t work for the US, what makes you think it will work for CANZUK?

[@braytongoodall2598]

@@Bear-c4x CANZUK has different needs than the early US: (1) we don't need to raise funds centrally to prosecute a war, (2) we're not at meaningful risk of going to war with each other. The AoC gave citizens in one state all the protections of citizens in the others, but it left regulation of permanent interstate migration with the states themselves. I just think a confederal model would be more popular than a federal model.

[@LesRealLlama]

Its a cool idea. But feel the topic has lost its momentum more recently. Hope it does get talked about more again though 💜. Like by politicians again, which mentioned it before. But now this whole thing is forgotten/not talked about by them at all. And the public has also been less vocal about it. At least from what I have seen. Still people talk about it, BUT its definitely less people (and its noticeable). Anyways yeah! Should happen. 💘🇨🇦🇦🇺🇳🇿🇬🇧💘.

[@vinniechan]

I don't think there is going to be one overarching CANZUK deal I do see we are going to have a series of separate agreements that gradually bring the countries together They are already all part of CPTPP, and five eyes and the only thing needed is agreement to expand on freedom of movement that's not quite open border

[@olsenfernandes3634]

It's fallen off the priority list because some of the countries have beef with their own government.

[@pat9353]

11:47 I think Newfoundland should have its own independence on the chart. Technically it didn’t become a dominion until 1907

[@AverageSouthernMan]

The way toycat said Dunedin sent shivers down my spine lol

[@nathanbombardo]

10:13 Funny enough I'm indeed from Palmerston North

[@Jamala_]

AUSTRALIIAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH RAHHHHHHHHHHHHH🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@bbcblibberbroadcastingcorp2651]

Stupidity of this blows my mind. I'm CDN and UK dual citizen. Globe and Mail called this a "silly name." It sounds different to Canadian ears. Canlit is Canadian Literature, Canjam is a music festival etc. Canzuk just has the worst possible ring to it. Sounds worse in French too.

[@bbcblibberbroadcastingcorp2651]

@KMartin-jf5kw LOL. "Why? Is adulthood as fun as trolling?" LOL. Try again. LOL.

[@someguy3766]

Well the acronym is pretty much a placeholder, I think if an actual union were to happen it would have a different name, like the Commonwealth Union or something like that.

[@bbcblibberbroadcastingcorp2651]

@@someguy3766 Did a mule kick you in the head?

[@mynamesmur]

1:50 The base you're thinking of is in Oromocto. - a Monctonian

[@Khloya69]

Hawaii doesn’t drive on the left because left is wrong.

[@cuttinaboot]

Bro never mind the capital “must be” or “has to be” Hobart it is the only place on tazzi and don’t talk to me about Devonport that place can’t be real 😅

[@AnimeReference]

Launceston

[@crazymusicchick]

Lol the options it gave for capital of Western Australia are basically small towns but the biggest in their region. Yep WA has sub regions eg goldfields , wheatbelt, mid west. And the capital

[@lindabodewes7824]

Lower Hutt in New Zealand is taking the piss. It’s essentially part of Wellington.

[@someguy3766]

I love the idea of CANZUK. I think it would be a great thing for all our four nations!

[@olezhkoo]

toycat - kudos on having the United24 context ad on that website! 🙂 Thank you!

[@Khloya69]

Papua New Guinea was part of Australia until 1975, it was never directly under British control.

[@TheAppleExperence]

I am from an city near Palmerston North thank you for not getting it makes me feel better about my town.

[@theVtuberCh]

PNG was technically a colony of Australia

[@alexandernico8930]

Do more Sporcle videos!

[@Makbot01]

CANZUK lets gooo

[@xgamermudkip7154]

Canzuk can never be allowed to exist, the housing prices would make Zimbabwe look economically stable 😭🤣

[@TheNmecod]

this would speed up the quebec independence process so i’m all for it

[@rexmann1984]

Canzuk- We're going to ally the Anglo world! USA- Wtf am I? Chopped liver?

[@A5hq]

Usa will probably be very very close, just not a member cuz USA is too big and powerful compared to these.

[@SkyHighSkylar]

@@A5hqthe USA is the “EU observer state” of this union 😂

[@lennonkelly-james2693]

The USA was built on a rejection of the ideas that bring Canzuck countries together.

[@xtw]

btw papua new guinea gained independence from AUSTRALIA in 1975 so that is probably what you were thinking

[@radio_marco]

Okay, I'm ready for negotiations: When Switzerland gets an Exclusive deal, simmilar as we got with the EU, and CANZUK joins Schengen than I'd be fine with CANZUK.

[@holygooff]

So what is the capital of Canzuk? :o London, Canada?

[@slhope64]

Bangaldesh got independance from Pakistan, not the UK. Well, I guess it did get independance from the UK as well, but then it was part of Pakistan, which was listed

[@definitelynotacriminal]

8:39 AHHHHHH!!!!!

[@jordansmith4040]

No thanks, Canada is closer to the U.S. economicly, militarily, and culturally than the others. Not that the concept of a connection between the U.K. and her former colonies does not exist, but stronger bonds have been made. Most CANZUK nations trade more with the U.S. than each other. The five eyes organization is an excellent example of that cooperation, which includes the Unites States.

[@MCLegend13]

Nope CANZUK needs to happen it’s our only chance at survival thanks to the disastrous event known as Brexit. CANZUK is the greatest thing we could have post Brexit it’s a necessity and I will continue to push for it. I still have faith CANZUK will happen and hopefully help the country finally recover from Brexit. Because if it doesn’t I’ve officially lost faith in my country. Edit: I already lost faith in my country but if CANZUK is simply ignored then my faith will only drop even lower.

[@jordansmith4040]

@MCLegend13 you feel Britain needs this. Good for you. Australia, New Zealand, and Canada don't need you, however. The rest of us have been scooped up into the U.S. sphere of influence, and we're happy with them. We trade with them. Culturally, Canada is more like the U.S. than we are like Britain. CANZUK can't survive anything more than surface level scrutiny.

[@opedrrox]

What about Jervis bay territory for Australia

[@Redo_Ki34]

Being from palmy (palmerston north) i am in genuine shock we are in the top 12😂 although i have lived in aus the past 13 years

[@ibx2cat]

what happened to palmerston south

[@clockblower6414]

Already got 5👀 might as well do some stuff above board

[@beepa5607]

Oh, is it new whales - in the south, or new - south of whales

[@radio_marco]

Okay, when CANZUK happens, I will the UK officially no longer count as European Country. Already now do I only barely recognize the UK as European.

[@cuttinaboot]

Learn how to spell Saskatchewan ? The sas kat chew an what ?

[@gregoryturk1275]

Where’s South Africa ?

[@Perun944]

Invading Europe.

[@Hession0Drasha]

Not very well at all, if you think it could somehow be and important, or coherent force in the world. It could be window dressing at best, and beyond the free movement aspect, would not economically benefit its members at all.

[@Perun944]

These countries will all be in the CPTPP where the real economic weight is.

[@maxwalker1159]

!

[@latenightlogic]

That Aussie flag looks ridiculous

[@Perun944]

How so?

[@latenightlogic]

just look at it, should jump right out at you. as Jerry Seinfeld said, ‘britain at night’

[@Perun944]

@@latenightlogic So you're basically a racist towards Anglo-Saxons... Australians don't seem to mind their flag, and neither should you.

[@LasVegar]

Canzuk, can suck?

[@mingfanzhang8927]

😊😊😊

[@gerbilpmc]

Canzuk could never work with Canada being so americanized. They are going through an identity crisis right now, hopefully they pull through and develop a culture.

[@lennonkelly-james2693]

So true. Canada was literally built on a rejection of Americanisation in favour of British loyalism.

[@lennonkelly-james2693]

Now you see Canadians so wrapped up in American politics and who they want to win the election the presidential election, you'd be mistaken for thinking they were from there.

[@AnimeReference]

I'd be more concerned that they seem to consider themselves French.

[@lennonkelly-james2693]

@@AnimeReference Only in Québec. They'd have more of a British influence if it wasn't for that province.

[@Dushmann_]

But we're all still Anglo America may be the odd one out in the Anglosphere, but they are still one of us

[@Bear-c4x]

😂

[@teamtoby0552]

11 seconds ago is crazy

[@hamoshytube1853]

Frfrfr

[@megaloblabber2948]

gday

[@Electricsou1]

AZUK makes more sense Canada is to american styled for it to be considered british

[@Dushmann_]

actually, we're all Anglo styled

[@Reqwinn]

As a canadian, we strongly dislike the way our governement is based on the uk. This union is impossible.

[@Reqwinn]

@KMartin-jf5kw You're clearly from newfoundland

[@Perun944]

Nothing Canadian about you.

[@jonathanodude6660]

Doubt many australians would really be on board with this british propaganda 😂

[@Dushmann_]

same culture, same language, same heritage, same ethnic makeup. we're literally the same people with the same culture and the same goals - why wouldn't we unite? it worked very well for us in the past..

[@SkyHighSkylar]

I’m Australian, and I’d say I could probably be convinced with the right approach. I could maybe be convinced by an EU-style system rather than outright federalisation

[@Monty_Jackson]

nonsense. if it was like the arrangment we already have with nz, most people would go along with it i reckon.

[@alexandermoore2982]

this some real UK cope propaganda