How wide is too wide? Bike tire width tips!

[@roadcc]

What are you running? big and bouncy or thin and firm?

[@jefferycampbell2243]

I run GP5000 tubeless 32c, with pressure set to give 15% rim drop (47/50psi). My local roads are coarse chip and seal with lots of jarring cracks - so I went for comfort and grip.

[@pierrex3226]

That's what she said

[@peterbee8892]

3 years ago I started using schwalbe pro one 28mm much to the amusement of my buddies who thought I was going off road with them. They actually measured about 31mm on my rims so I have replaced them with the current Pro one 30mm. Riding at 60 psi on a tubeless setup give less punctures and stopping by the roadside. Comfort is everything on our local c roads.

[@voltafy]

Just switched from 38 mm to 45 mm and loving how comfy they feel. It makes riding on slushy snow much better with more control than the thinner ones..

[@tonyheeschen2886]

I love my Ritchey Alpine jr 35 mm, quiet, comfortable and allow detours on some single tracks. I don't need to go fast, just out for the ride.

[@ericpmoss]

Wider only helps if the casing is extremely supple (flexible but not stretchy). If you can get that (e.g. FMB tubulars or Rene Herse clinchers), you're golden. Note that tires used to be, a LONG time ago, a very reasonable width -- we're finally getting back to sanity after the ultra-narrow craze.

[@DaveCM]

Had to have been a very long time ago. I started seriously riding in 1989 tires we're insanely narrow and pumped up very high. I don't miss those days.

[@Fordworldrallyfan]

So, what will it take for tires/rims to get back to "a very reasonable width" and "sanity" once they start getting to 35mm+ for rims and 45C+ for ROAD bikes?!?

[@ConsciousBreaks]

@@DaveCM 27" x 1-1/4 and 27" x 1-1/8 tires were extremely common before 700c tires became the standard in the 80s, if my understanding is correct.

[@DaveCM]

@@ConsciousBreaks not race tires. Those were only on commuter style bikes and some randonneuring bikes. On race bikes 18 to 20c tires were the norm.

[@stuwhite2337]

First ride today on 32 Contis on my road bike and it's a massive improvement on the roads I ride on over the 25s I had. Seems to be faster too, but hard to say for sure at this stage. Wish I had changed years ago. They do only just fit though.

[@comedyman112]

What inner width are your rims?

[@stuwhite2337]

@@comedyman112 17mm- Mavic Aksium. Mavic reckon they are okay up to 32mm tyre width.

[@thelmaviaduct]

32mm Gravelking Slicks. 297g, £30 a pop and tubeless 👍🏿

[@mandopando68]

I run schwalbe 28mm pro one tle tubeless on my zipp 303s rims on my Ribble SL disc I love them♥️ I’ve been very lucky this summer puncture free 😎😎

[@WowRixter]

My 2009 Cervelo only has a 400mm chainstay so I can't go more than 23mm on the rear. My 2017 LOOK in 410mm and I switched to 25mm on the rear. Much more comfortable. My newest bike has a 415mm chainstay so now I can got up to 32mm.

[@diegoestabridis2478]

Lighning fast shipping. Excellent product very pleased

[@wildsurfer12]

I’ve switched from 32 to 30mm. Mainly due to them being more road oriented and the external width on my new wheels.

[@huntos83]

I run 25mm Pro One on my race bike, as that’s the limit of the frame’s clearance. I use them tubeless on fairly wide carbon rims and have no issue with comfort and happy with the performance too

[@TroubleshootGamingMeds]

I ride a single speed with 32mm gp5000s. Love it.

[@eddelacy7185]

Schwalbe pro one evo tubeless 28mm - mwah! smooth and rapid.

[@user-cx2bk6pm2f]

Great discussion.

[@edsinofsky]

25 mm front for small leading edge with aero wheel and 32mm rear. Tubeless GP5000s

[@robcollinson9508]

Are you in the road cc car fallout shelter?

[@mazhoace]

30mm Pirelli P Zero TLR, so good 👍

[@m9d497]

Buy the p zero sl next w latex tubs, fastest road set up i've ever riddrn

[@thecyclingpablo]

These over GP5000?

[@mazhoace]

@@thecyclingpablo For sure. Easy to get on rims, good grip and fast enough

[@Chibster83]

I’m running 28mm on my road bike. I’m stunned at the variation in actual size width between brands. One brand’s 28 is another’s 26. Frustrating.

[@JeffShepherdphotos]

So true. Some times A 32mm tyre can more narrow than a 28mm one.

[@SIMETHESHAMAN]

Yeah its ridiculous I just bought tanwall goodyear 28s they are basically 23 compared to the prior vittorias I had which seems super wide in comparison

[@ridemorelivemore]

I am trying to get a 30 on the back and 26 on the front. Right now, I am running 28 on both.

[@SteveBrill]

I'm now loving my 30mm Goodyear Eagle F1's (tan sidewalls) tubeless on Zipp 303s's Can't fault them over 2,000 miles.

[@oasam.athlete]

is it true that zipp hubs are lousy?

[@SteveBrill]

@@oasam.athlete I’ve not had any issues with mine and now covered over 3,000 miles.

[@oasam.athlete]

@@SteveBrill thank you sometimes reviews are getting so biased, while some consumers are so exaggerated.

[@skybluemarshall]

I have an older, mid 2000s, Specialized Sirrus Sport hybrid commuter bike. It came with Alex R500 rims and 700C, 28 mm. I haven't measured the internal width of the rims yet, but from what I've gathered online, they're supposedly only 14 mms. My bike was already more of a flat, upright style, but I changed the stem riser and handle bars to make it even more upright. Now that I'm in my early 60s and fairly out of shape, I'm more interested in just getting back on the bike and cruising it around town with maybe a bit of easy gravel road riding, like one might do on an old English Roadster style bike. My question is, what is the widest tire that will safely fit on these rims bearing in mind that I have no interest in road racing, mountain biking, hard cornering and going fast? I'm reading 28 mm on the charts, but is that written in stone? It seems odd that the tires it came with would be the widest possible tires that could ever fit in the rims. Could I go as high as 32mm or even 35mm, like some of the newer 3 speed Roadsters have? I've checked the rim brakes and frame clearances and they're pretty huge, like well over 50 mm. The rims are the only question mark here.

[@Fordworldrallyfan]

Vittoria Corsa G in 25C with Vittoria latex inner tubes, pumped up to ~105 PSI front and ~110 PSI rear (I weigh ~180 lbs./~82 kg). (My frame barely allows these to fit, so I could not go to the current 'trendy' 28C-32C 'balloons' even if I wanted to, which I most definitely do NOT.) I will get dissed for riding even that much pressure nowadays, but I'm from the old school, and was racing LONG LONG before most of you're PARENTS were even born, on Clement Criterium Seta tubulars pumped up to 150PSI+ regardless of road conditions! Also, those pressures have come down from almost 140 PSI when I was still running 23C Vredestein Fortezza Slicks with latex tubes inside!! OH NOES!!! 😱 (So some of this new school 'tech' IS getting through to this old timer, but do NOT expect me to be dropping down to 60 PSI or lower like all of you young 'whippersnappers'! LOL) BTW; I am 2-3 times+ the age of most of you, and my back, body, etc. is holding up JUST FINE, even on some very rough roads at those pressures! (But the latex tubes and high TPI supple cotton casings probably help save me in that area, a bit. 😉) IF I wanted/desperately needed so much 'cush', I would get and ride a fat tire bike, which seems to be where this overly wide wheel marketing BS is heading, like a runaway train (but not that fast LOL).

[@brasso9393]

I am from your same era running tubs at 150psi 19/21c. and hated the new trend. Recently I was given a new bike with wheels that runs 60psi 28c. I very much love the new setting and dont see my avg speed drop but gain so much comfort. Its a case of never try never know and each of its own . Cheers

[@neilmoses3376]

Maybe you should try them. Just like you tryed you tube,& other new things 🤔

[@mikerichardson4240]

I am no expert in cycling but enjoy a ride on my bike. The bike came fitted withH2 700 x 35 Bontrager tyres. Would I be able to fit a Continental Gatorskin tyre 700 x 32 on my bike ? Thanks for advice

[@roadcc]

if a 35 fits, a 32 should be absolutely fine

[@dann5480]

Can I fit 38c tyres on a 17mm internal width rim? Will it be ideal or will it cause issues?

[@DEISE01able]

Do bicycles come assembled ?

[@JeffShepherdphotos]

You know when your tyres are too wide when your wheels no longer rotate. LOL

[@E2BAKED2C]

Will 26x5.05 tires fit on a fat tire mountain bike?

[@benoittheminerandgamer]

Well i'am on 23mm road tire at 115psi. How to know if my bike can take 28mm tire??

[@MegaXtc11]

Narrow tyres will in most cases be faster than wide tyres, for example for quick sportives I find that it's a little more difficult accelerating and climbing with 28c tyres, I can feel the tyre rolling resistance is greater than compared to a 25c tyre.

[@roadcc]

be interesting to know what 25mm and 28mm tyres you used?

[@michaelmcgrath7465]

I run 25s on my old Cinelli Supercorsa, but they collect grit in the wet which sands away the downtube. I run 28s on most of my other bikes and they are great, but recently switched to 32s on my disc bike. I feel they are slower though. Recently did a long, hilly event and it seemed much harder than normal. Maybe I'm just getting old!

[@roadcc]

what type of 32? depends a lot on the tyre...

[@michaelmcgrath7465]

Continental slicks.

[@silviuguseila2552]

Michael seems like your observation is correct, here is a test showing clearly you need more effort on wider kzbin.info/www/bejne/inTVfWqvfbWAp9E

[@thermami]

How much does an extra ~10mm really go in comfort? I ride frequently but very casually so I really don't care about speed. I choose to use footpaths on particularly unpleasant roads and my main complaint about my rides is the inconsistencies in concrete footpaths and kerb ramps. I have 35s but looking at getting 47s

[@thermami]

Should also add that it's a pedelec, so any extra starting resistance is pretty negligible

[@roadcc]

definitely go bigger then. go as big as you can!

[@JBthePAdashC]

I bought a gravel bike with clearance for 50mm tires that I use for gravel as well as my daily commuter. I have hatched a plan to buy a second wheel set so I can have a gravel set and a commuting/road set. What do you recommend for my road set? I’ve debated on going for a 40mm gravel slick (something like Panaracer gravelking slick). Is this advisable or something smaller?

[@roadcc]

depends how road you want to go? the gravelking is a great tyre, you could also look at options like the challenge strada bianca in 33mm and 36mm, or the schwalbe g-one speed in a 30mm

[@Andy_ATB]

Too wide - is that possible? On the UK's rubbish roads you want the widest tyres your frame can fit.

[@patgallagher6642]

I'm planning another 350+ mile tour. I'm contemplating running a 30mm rear and a 28mm front tire. Couldn't fit the 30mm on the front forks. Any disadvantage of this mismatch.

[@roadcc]

not really, quite common to run a wider rear as more of your weight is over the back wheel

[@thecyclingpablo]

If running 32mm tyres should you be looking at rim width? Would 19mm or 21mm do OK?

[@govermentsoundsystemrootik8887]

Continental Gp5000s 28mm beaded clinchers, 80 psi front tyre & 95 psi in the rear, i weigh almost 100kg all on my custom build which weighs in at 7.625kg.

[@billburke7802]

I have 700x35 is that good?

[@roadcc]

if it works for you it is!

[@benhur5826]

yeah, i think i consider 30mm tyres for next paris-roubaix race...

[@m9d497]

Prob go 32 since most aero bike brand allow you to do so, specialized, factor, canyon, merida

[@Hawk-qn2zk]

2014 Venge with rim brakes limit me to 28mm max in the rear as long as I deflate to gett on and off. 😂

[@tmr233]

Does anybody know what the maximal tyre with for a shimano 105 rim brake is ?

[@thelmaviaduct]

28mm ish

[@roadcc]

yeah normally 28mm for shimano callipers, unless you like playing fast and loose with the clearance :-)

[@Chris-de2qc]

Make sure a 28mm is actually 28mm! Looking at you GP4000s! 🙄

[@tomrachellesfirstdance7843]

I use 23mm on my winter bike as any bigger and they rub on the mudguards 😂

[@gc641]

Late to this video but can you keep your volume of speech even? It sounds like you guys are mumbling when you speak softly, take look at how those guys at gcn are talking, it’s tough enough to understand you Brit’s. Love this video and love your channel btw

[@eriklindskog1841]

I am still on 23 mm tires as wider ones would likely be too wide for my aero rims. Seems I would need to get wider aero rims to ride wider tires. :-)

[@sgtted7580]

I ride a Argon 18 gallium Pro. I have 28mm on the back and 25 on the front. As I ride in the UK and all roads are bad in UK. 28mm gives a little more comfort.

[@mr91wa]

You should have mentioned, tan wall tyres save more watts / lighter / invincible too

[@roadcc]

ah yes, we should!

[@m9d497]

And yes more vulnerable to side puncture

[@hmudesign]

How come all these “scientists and experts”missed this crucial bit of information all along, and went on to sell us skinny, uncomfortable tires for decades. Seems like very selective science or “what ever we are going to sell now” kind of a thing, very conveinient.

[@hmudesign]

Were they all crappy scientists or do we have such good ones and better machines now? Have we just forgiven them already? :)

[@roadcc]

It's a surprise to you that we discover new things about stuff? and can make better things? that's kind of how science generally tends to work.

[@silviuguseila2552]

Seems like they were right, takes more effort on wider, like 50% more kzbin.info/www/bejne/inTVfWqvfbWAp9E

[@bobnelson2828]

28’s at 70 PSI

[@BlackyBrownDestruction9337]

Anywhere in the 30s, 20s makes me crash more often

[@michaelhayward7572]

XC tires with imperial measurements... 700C is just so last year....

[@rockypaccarangan]

25mm front 28mm rear is ok

[@MotoLopez1k]

Corporations making the case for disc brakes😂😂😂😂

[@Fordworldrallyfan]

Yup, they keep pushing WIDER and WIDER so some nice planned obsolescence for them to line their pockets with. Along with having to buy new crunchy carbon frames for now over $10K+ USD to accommodate those stupidly wide wheels and tires which will not fit in their older, already 'big clearance' frames. 😡😡

[@VictorElGreco]

You just need more than one bike. 😉

[@roadcc]

always

[@Fordworldrallyfan]

Yeah, what the hell, get a 'quiver' of 4 , 5 or 6 for $15K-$20K a pop, before spare/extra sets of wheels for $3K+ each. We're ALL hedge fund managers now, correct??

[@kostais]

25 on roadie and 38 on gravel

[@silviuguseila2552]

I like the idea of wider tires (42c or even 47c) but the tests do not look favourable kzbin.info/www/bejne/inTVfWqvfbWAp9E

[@rob-c.]

Except this test is really smooth tread versus knobby tread, not narrow tyre versus wide tyre. I would wager a wide smooth tread tyre would roll better than the knobbly one.

[@edwinfarrow3114]

23mm but come up 25 on my rims.

[@m9d497]

P zero race sl on zipp 454nsw cant be more happier

[@willietayloraka.footers5199]

Hi I have been running on 20x4.0! My question is can go wider on low profile tires and do you know some name brands.