How Will The Semi-Aquatics Deal With Deinosuchus?

[@Checklist_STT]

Deinosuchus is exactly the kind of jump-scare animal that a survival game like The Isle needs. Getting water becomes very risky in a lot of areas, and they provide a natural cull for midsized adult playables like Carno, Teno, etc.

[@Nestmind]

the problem is that there is no cull for edult deinos except other deinos, the croc population con explode to level that makes getting water anywhere pretty much impossible, at least on spiro. Hopefully Gateway is better designed, with various degree of water depth, giving players "safe havens" that are going to be come the hunting territory of other Apexes, like sucho or spino

[@feyytime5571]

Idk about you but every run in with any dino is a jump scare for me

[@tuckrex2038]

@@Nestmindi have never seen this because deinos are encouraged to kill eachother and keep population down, also food is too hard to come by for large groups of them to exist without surviving off of cannibalism

[@sinbotosimmons7624]

I played the Deino for the first time with a buddy of mine yesterday on a small server since all the officials are full. I have not played the game long, I have like 12 hours total in the game. But I have been on the wrong end of said jump scare a lot. Being on the other side, even as a little guy, was something else. Hitting someone crossing the river, grabbing him and dragging them down for a meal for me and my friend. Well, that was one of the most immersive feelings I've had in a game in a while.

[@Nestmind]

@@sinbotosimmons7624 yeah...it fills a niche in our psyche that we can't fulfill....the thrill of the stalk and the hunt. Not without....legal repercussions

[@TroxyTheLost]

The isle players when a Ceratosaurus can’t 1v1 a literal Crocodile the size of a small whale

[@wietse9673]

I just hope Gateway's rivers, ponds, lakes and or channels will have lots and i mean lots of underwater plants, foliage and vegetation. Big sunken logs, water trees, rocks in the water you can get on as beipi's, secret hidden underwater caves that could provide shortcuts to another place or easy escape for critters if a croc comes along. Anything to spice up the underwater world. And if that happens, i'm sure the semi-aquatic gameplay will be filled with experiences we will never forget.

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

i really hope they do to

[@Ghost-jx5hj]

Yeah but that's not gonna be for a while they gotta add more dinos before they do things like that

[@DARKTIME_FREDDY-1964]

yea and rocks etc

[@wietse9673]

@@DARKTIME_FREDDY-1964 Just like how unique and interesting you can make the terrestrial world you can also do in the underwater realm.

[@benanders4412]

Better map design can solve 50% of this games problems, if not more. Because what we have now is just really bad.

[@pinkfridge6111]

Having the motion sensor only work if a creature is on the surface of the water was honestly one of the best balance changes in the history of the isle (rare devs W)

[@phalspar]

I still treat it like that see me, CRAWWWL

[@weaversong4377]

That bird you really enjoyed was called an Anhinga. I recently visited florida, and Anhinga are decently common around marshes and lakes in that area. When I visited I thought the exact same thing about how this is basically how I envision Austroraptor. Now, all we need is certain parts of rivers and lakes to be FULL of lush underwater vegetation.

[@Vadim_k.d.]

I officially declare this Anhinga my new favourite bird

[@duder7396]

Austro is more of a heron though, sits at the riverside to snatch fish

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

the anhinga,what a beautiful bird,i hoping gateways rivers and lakes have beautiful under water foliage

[@weaversong4377]

@@duder7396 It’s going to have to dive in as shown in its concept art to get that fish. It stalks like a heron, and dives like an Anhinga.

[@duder7396]

@@weaversong4377 Bro there's like a million other birds that dive. Being able to swim underwater is literally the only similarity to austro that the anhinga has.

[@cheesecakeandheron]

In terms of looks, the Spino remodel is insane and I love it. Not the most accurate, tho. But seriously, who can hate this design?

[@elizilla12]

I agree with this, it looks like the hypo spino from legacy but toned down, but it is still menacing.

[@maybemay2507]

Dont take this as argumentative bc it is not meant to be, but i still really dislike the spino model 😢 I understand why folks like it, esp as a jurassic park fan, but i would love a more accurate spino model soooo much more. Just a far more interesting body plan and design imo, differentiating it from other large predators in the game.

[@seikotheserval5341]

@@maybemay2507 unfortunately The Isle don't really focus on realistic accurate dinosaurs 😔 _From __#PureTuber_

[@maybemay2507]

@@seikotheserval5341 yeah 😭 and that's fine! I just personally find a more accurate body plan more visually interest solely from a design standpoint

[@alunaticwithashotgun9840]

I feel like Deino's biggest weakness would be stuff with big hands, mostly because of locational damage, like how is a Deinosuchus supposed to get bites on the heads of Spinosaurus, Deinocherius or even Sucho ? They can all keep their heads out of harms way while repeatedly slapping a Deinosuchus across the face. And if alt attacks for those three look anything like Beipi's then Deinosuchus is better off swimming away for it's life.

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

now that is a very good point

[@KhanArtist3]

Makes sense, crocodilians have a "weakness" to blunt force due to their weak brain case and sensitive faces, and they could also be flipped by deinoch and spino just like the anky

[@hannesjons1]

it can quick turn too and bite the legs so it cant escape from deinosuchus then end it with its bite

[@fritzfromsouth5935]

Considering these dinosaurs have long necks and will be Deinosuchus biggest target, I wouldn't worry too much about the dinosaur head being the target, and it's bite is certainly no joke, they can fight back, but in an environment that is likely to have a lot of them (crocodilians tend to congregate in groups tolerating each other), one can unleash a mass attack trying to get advantage of the prey. Suchomimus and Spinosaurus may have known how to deal with big predatory crocodilians, especially Spinosaurus that lived in the same era as Sarcosuchus, but i don't know much about Deinocheirus.

[@troelembiid6970]

@@KhanArtist3I feel like Deino will be considered too “heavy” to be flipped over like that. Another thing is there will probably be map updates that allow Deinos to use their superior swimming ability to escape Spinos. Other Semi-Aquatics will simply be too small to compete.

[@notflyingcereal3575]

Very pleased with the Sucho wading instead of swimming concept art, one of the only accurate things to be added by the devs, since we have observed suchomimus had lower bone density compared to baryonyx and spinosaurus meaning it was a bit less aquatic, good on the devs!

[@youtubealt243]

Wouldn’t that mean it didn’t wade though? I remember the conclusion to the study being that suchomimus hunted on land but also stood in shallow waters to catch fish like a bear

[@notflyingcereal3575]

@youtubealt243 it definitely had water relation just didn't swim like bary and spino so it likely wades

[@StinkyPtera-md3tf]

I feel like sucho should still be able to swim just to get away from things like rexes and gigas (because what other mid tier is hunting that thing 😭) also for catching fish in deeper waters

[@KhanArtist3]

​@@StinkyPtera-md3tfsucho would just be faster or have better stam, but yes it should be able to swim better than apexes can

[@StinkyPtera-md3tf]

@@KhanArtist3 I’m not sure it’ll be faster but definitely have more stam, I still would like to see it be able to swim, just not as fast as the other aquatics only fast enough to catch elite fish and other aquatic ai, and perhaps ambush a few unlucky river crossers, so it won’t be using the water to hunt the other aquatics just ai and crossers.

[@TheSpyder49]

your genuine love of whacky prehistoric animals is like, unbelievably charming

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

aww you gem

[@stickempires2608]

I personally love the spino model its my favorite of any dino they have. It just looks like a monster and would be absolutely terrifying. Not to mention the people who dont like it are people who say it "isn't accurate." Like having an accurate spino is even possible this damn thing will change another 15 times entirely before we even get an ounce of truth on what it even was.

[@infernowolf8914]

While yes, Spino does seem to change a lot, we do understand that it looked nothing like it did in JP3. Being 100% accurate is not what I’m asking it to be, but rather be close to what is actually real. Instead, what we got was essentially a fictionalized creature that spits in the face of all knowledge we’ve gained on Spinosaurus since 2014.

[@thejunglefighter8090]

​@@infernowolf8914 Recent studies show that the spino would've had to had longer and thicker femurs, or it wouldn't have been able to walk. So maybe the tail is inaccurate but the legs are more accurate

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

accurate spino would get destroyed in the isle

[@thejunglefighter8090]

@@Orni-Mega-Lonyx I don't think it would get destroyed but it would have a harder time beefing with crocodilians

[@smansam]

Anytime I hear ‘monster’ in terms of dinosaur design I just 🙄

[@singingcrow439]

Outside of deep water, I can see deinosuchus actually being at a slight disadvantage against deinocherus, spino, and maybe even sucho (if they are similarly sized) simply due to one thing; height. All three dinos have their heads up above the ground, while deino literally drags its head around. This means deinosuchus might find it hard to get headshots on these dinos, while they can use their claws to hit the crocs head. This is made null in deep enough water, of course, which is probably where most fights take place, but it is an interesting detail on how I think the matchup would go.

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

a great point

[@UnknownPersononGoogle]

Except crocs don’t always go for heads they’ll grab onto anything and start barrel rolling. If that’s your leg then RIP leg.

[@elizilla12]

valid

[@fishyfishyfishy500akabs8]

@@UnknownPersononGoogle in the The Isle Deinosuchus is a comparatively severely nerfed version of the real thing, lacking a death roll or any ability to thrash prey in its grasp.

[@riley_028]

I think the deinosuchus fills a much needed niche. since this is meant to be a horror game, having that anxiety of needing to drink soon and fearing what may come of that is a good thing. my problem is that nothing can stop them. the only way to stop a deinosuchus is another deinosuchus, and thats a problem. they become so common and sometimes it feels like instead of being unlucky to be killed by one when drinking, you're lucky to not be killed by one

[@leechrot]

This is the first video of yours I've watched and that ending was so wholesome, I definitely need that today, thank you. Subbed!

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

❤️

[@frbrbrgrblgrr7777]

My opinion how to cope with Deino. It's the Rex of the waters, make them slower to grow compared to everything else in the water (and in general). The juvies would be easy targets for the semi aquatics, the adults would be horrible for everyone but with the time and skill it would take (plus patience) it may help over population / power balances.

[@SebastiannaitsabaS]

Agreed also with all the other semi-aquatics being added if they are smart they would hunt deinos to keep their population down

[@Heheheheheeeeeeeeeeha]

I love this video style and just this channel, you just got yourself a new subscriber.

[@namelessnavnls8060]

Deinosuchus players already got something consistent to worry about honestly. Cannibals. Cannibals are always a threat.

[@lectroeel6290]

Petition to add Halszkaraptor as the main predator for beipi. I had this idea of it being able to run on water for a short amount of time if it builds up enough speed first like modern-day basilisks and being just as good a swimmer as beipi.

[@TheDinoNerd]

This sounds great in theory, but then you realize halszkaraptor are smaller than the compie AI that spawns by corpses.

[@thesauceguy1809]

The Ceratosaurus had some concept art pointing to it being fast in the water and easily hunting crocs (at least smaller ones). I haven't gotten into Evrima much yet since I'm waiting to upgrade my GPU, so maybe it's already like this.

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

its a decent swimmer

[@LunkOP]

As an avid croc hater, all these new semi aquatics putting them in their place sounds like the most beautiful symphony.

[@willybingusthealien]

I'll still eat you. 😉

[@Narsku8833]

My god I always have to make sure I can just sit down and focus on your content. It's always so freaking well made! Brilliant.

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

you 💎

[@samvoolivredev9021]

Another great video from my buddy. Always doing the great work, love u bud!

[@PennyLarousse]

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[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

what a gem you're x

[@SuprememeCeratosaurus]

I’m honestly glad we got the inaccurate, muscular and monsterous jp3 spino. I can’t imagine the accurate skinny, twig legged spino being able to remotely put up a fight against a deinosuchus

[@SpindominusRex]

That hurts me as a Accurate spino fan

[@a_mgold403]

Also helps that Deinosuchus is 8 tonnes and not 15, the other apexes wouldn't stand a chance

[@raccon1007]

Just started watching ur channel a few days ago watched quite a few videos so far underrated youtuber also when you made that video about simplyamazing i couldn't believe it i used to watch that guy all the time i cant believe all that was happening behind the scenes

[@handofpringels62]

Spino looks like its scheeming a bank robery. like why the fuck does he looks so devious.

[@DocumentarianWeady]

I'll always have it where most of the Semi-Aquatics can actually see through water like some species of birds such as Osprey's, their eyes specialized with blocking out the sun. The only one I wouldn't give this is Spinosaurus because its too OP at this point lmfao Also, where have you got those size charts which you showed for Sucho and Deinocheirus? Just curious.

[@lukasart3951]

That’s actually a great balance idea.

[@pokemon05100]

Isn't that austro's unique gimmick?

[@DocumentarianWeady]

@@pokemon05100 Technically yes, but it would work for all of the others as well.

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

one of the qa members made unofficial size charts close to what we will get in game,look up "size chart" in there and youll find it.

[@gagechatham7838]

this vidoes low key got me majorly pumped for Spoon... and I'm a rex main

[@opacity7303]

i just stumbled upon your channel and im really enjoying your content good job dude

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

what a gem you're

[@The_RedpillCrusader]

Broo the fact KZbin community noted this video for saying "This thing looks like it started Covid-19" is wiiiiiillllllldddd.

[@phantomsrage6523]

also to be fair about minmis speed, remember a softshell turtle can run at up to 15 mph in short bursts on land, the average human male runs about 13 km/h any faster than that is considered fast for a human. and a hippo which you wouldnt expect to be fast could outrun usain bolt relatively easily being able to run at about 30 km/h

[@galactic9737]

Spinosaurus VS. Deinocheirus VS. Deinosuchus competition is gonna be so entertaining.

[@pn5705]

Sadly I feel that Deinocherius will suffer since more players will play the other two more. For every one Cherry, there’ll be two Deimos and Spinos.

[@FirstLieutenantOli]

Dude always comes up with the best vids. keep up the good work dude.

[@teagan5494]

I’m gonna be such a hard Spino main when it comes out, will take business days to grow but man once it’s here it will be one of the strongest Dino’s for sure

[@lycantrique3570]

so happy to know their still a the isle KZbinr that doesn't hate the game just to keep playing and loving almost everywhere I heard this bad or this should not be but my brother in christ most of the game is still in preparation

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

we dont do that round here dont worry. the isle had its second highest player count ever yesterday,for a game in preparation,its doing well.

[@HyrulelinkDK]

Love your videos man. Your excitement and eagerness is contagious. You keep me hyped for the Isle's future even if I might be an old man by the time it's done xD. For real though awesome content! Can't wait to see more!

[@crabhater9373]

The isle waters are going to be so cool! I feel like eventually afterthought will give in and add a mosasaur or other fully aquatic animals. I'm curious how that would change the water meta.

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

yeah they will. hopefully further down the line tho

[@stickempires2608]

didnt they say something about a more water based map? Would probably see them all shine more there.

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

@@stickempires2608 yeah they did

[@Mikalos]

​@@stickempires2608lookup "gateway" map

[@AppalachianMotors]

I don't mind th spino model, but it isn't up to date with what paleontologists think spino looked like, but that's still just what they think it look like because we can't be sure. At this point, the spinosaurus has changed its appearance so many times throughout the years that it's open to enterpritation.

[@LewiBEREKET-y5v]

OMG your video was so good! It explained everything perfectly like with Spinosaurus, deinosuchus having competition with our big duck friend and such, baby and Austro and the other dinos u mentioned were awesome! Might I add that this video today actually made me realise that such had a concept art and I didn't even know lol. When I saw its it looks amazing. It basically showed its play style but not its fighting style. To me, it should use it'd claws a lot like bare but with less efficiency and more brawler capabilities. Not sure how that will happen but we can just think of it like this. It will have 3 main mid tier rivals. They should be either bary, allo or Alberto. How ever out of all the dinos it will have as rivals, Mary is its main one since they will likely come into contact with each other more often. It will obviously have the upper hand but will have three aquatic rivals it will stay away from no matter how skilled in combat they really are. Deinosuchus, deinocheirus and Spinosaurus. These three behemoths will not stand any of the such or bars near their territory and will scare them off. That's all for my idea's, if I will be honest I didn't have much idea's for sucho since he is the only mid their with an almost identical family member being wary. You never disappoint with your video's and Im so happy you sent this video. THANKS BRO! :D

[@Nordxo304]

i think that bary should have a back lunge where the bary jumps on the back of the deino and run or swim away

[@Dinosaur_Davis]

I was so exited and still am for Baryonyx. Baryonyx has allways been my one of my favorite dinosaurs. I was worried on how Baryonyx would face Deinosuchus as well. I hope The Isle developers are able to work thing out with them. It will be sad to see if Baryonyx sucks because Deinosuchus kills them without a fight. This video is amazing and your content is awesome! You're one of the best Isle Discussion Channels out there! You're super underrated.

[@cicada0007]

Any upcoming semi aquatic predators better have like super sensory and be able to detect motion as long as their snout is in the water. It would be realistic as well.

[@zadas1132]

For the Spinosaurus, I don't think the base design is bad. It has a menacing body in it's own rights. But I think the reason why it's so hated (coming from someone who also hates the design, me) is because of the head. It looks like an elongated puppy dog that got placed onto a JP3 Spino/Indominus Rex hybrid body. It just looks awkward.

[@truecoulorgecko401]

I dont think this is a problem now that gateway is out, crocs tend to stay at lakes a lot more often, and there are mini waterfalls ALL OVER THE PLACE so it would be hard for a croc to get through the rivers undetected, plus in the concept art barry is shown living in streams and rivers instead of lakes, so I feel like that wouldnt be too much of a problem since its mostly baby deinos that go through the streams and rivers now

[@Koryyd]

Deinoshucus: hah nothing can stop me! Suchomimus: what did you sai'd?

[@leyenisdiaz2371]

It would be cool if smaller semi-aquatics could dodge a lunge, it would be like Dryo's dodge bars just that these come into play only when a lunge connects with you. This would make drinking for semi-aquatics a little bit easier and something to keep in mind as a Deinosuchus player.

[@-spaceraptor26-94]

Hello again lmao

[@Mars1sv]

Nice work little man

[@moderanger443]

Also i'd just like to say... I freakin called it with the sucho being like a Pelican !

[@WHOOOOOOOME]

Bro the spino model looks so menacing, best spino model imo I hope they don’t change it

[@THEGAMELEGEND2002]

OrniMegaLong back at it again

[@Luna-ej4mi]

The diet anky here reminds of hippos irl. So heavy that they sink, but that might rarely be an issue, as hippos IRL can literally run underwater

[@valhalla5805]

Personally i never like the old spino so when i saw the new one i felt in love he is just perfect looking can't wait to see all the different color people will do with this beautifull monster

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

the skins will look really nice.

[@lavendercrow_n]

I think it would be so cool if to have a genuine ecosystem built with the players

[@Kssav]

Can’t wait for people to make some lore icebergs when we get more lore drops

[@Kota0507]

What I want is dinos like spinos and baryonix to be a threat to deinos simply because it can literally imo one of the most op on the roster right now, also they’re annoying when they can almost insta kill me as an adult cerato

[@hugomas5207]

Bueno que le vamos hacer, así e la vida Julio si no cuidas donde bebes te partirán el hocico bien feo.

[@fandomfanboy3743]

Deinosuchus is actually a prehistoric alligator, it doesn’t have the crocodile belly crawl and it’s able to gallop in short distances. The snout is also ‘U’ shaped........ sorry if I’m criticizing I just like to state facts

[@Ormais]

Gonna be honest, got this video in my recommended and expected a X Zaguer ripoff. I think you've done enough to separate yourself and I loved the bit about Austroraptor. It's already my favorite of the Legacy roster, but that video of the heron swimming underwater was new to me and I really can't wait for it to be similar to that. I personally like the shoulder feathers, and I think people will grow to like them after customizing them a bit. Just thought I'd leave a comment that I found your channel in my recommended, and I'm glad I watched. New sub :) Keep up the work man.

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

ahh what a gem you're💎i do think the shoulder feathers willl grow on me.

[@feyytime5571]

"Beipis and Deinos seem to have made an alliance and can co-exist with eathother peacefully" Me, a beipi player whose deaths have been 3 out of 5 times by deinos: yeah besties, truly.

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

may your soul rest🕊

[@TheMygoran]

As mostly Deino-Player, eating Beipis is simply not worth it. King-Fish provides the same Nutrient and is much less of a hassle to get. Also, having Beipies around you lures other Predators in, which make for much better Meals. I think it's the starting phase, where Deinos are curious about something new to hunt, jut to realize it's not worth it.

[@BigDdude]

@@TheMygoran Yep same here , and if im not wrong beipis dont even get u bones after the meat got eaten so really not worth it

[@MinecrafWolf]

I'm a deino main and I never kill beipis. They are the perfect lure for deinos. They make herbs and Carnis think the water is safe. I love when a whole group of beipis flock around me while I sit on a riverbed

[@feyytime5571]

@MinecrafWolf Yeah that's the kind of gameplay I'm always hoping for when playing Beipi because the amount of other dinos we lure towards the water is insane. But all the deinos I've met seemed to have had funky looking chicken on their dinner plans.

[@ceramic1287]

I’m not gonna play a dinosaur game and just play as a crocodile man idk how people don’t get bored with it

[@shinigami1357]

Bold of you to assume the devs have a plan

[@Excusatores]

I see it as this basically: Minmi: burrow or be super deep underwater with foliage covering it to escape a deino Austro: use its eyebrows to see an incomming deino (like shown in the concept) Bary: is really tricky to say but probably really agile in the water, alot of oxygen and good speed to escape on land Sucho: wont engage with deino because its a wadder thats mostly in shallow waters where deinos most likely arent Spino and cherry: fuck up deino

[@yeetusdeletus1827]

Honestly, I'd love if the Spino had a "Fuck around and Find out" Lifestyle when dealing with either Deino or just other Carnivores in general. Like, it wouldn't need to be the beefiest, because one hit from those claws could fuck up most things that decided to find out. Besides, the Idea of a Deino realizing its mistake when it fucks up a Lunge and a Spino just turns to look at it is hilarious in my opinion.

[@dasharkmasta678]

honestly if deinosuchus saw a good amount of rebalancing as more semi-aquatics came to the game, that would not be surprising to me. rn it doesnt need to leave breathing room for other creatures, but later on it obviously will

[@Wicky-it6ig]

Bro the spino looks FIRE. The people who hate on it are the ones who think it needs to look more like Path Of Titans or something like that design. Which it doesnt matter at all. It looks so good and scary.

[@yeetthatmolotov]

Great Video Bud, love to see a beacon of creativity and positivity in this community. Hope you have a good day too!

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

aww how nice of you💎

[@ToXio456]

what if the Baryonix could see through water pretty easily, as that would make it easier to spot crocs in waters

[@jaciannguyen-lozano6148]

it would be cool if bary and sucho could dip their noses in the water to sense any movement like crocs or fish in the area

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

I can see them doing something like that with sucho

[@nerdoutreachprogram5358]

Deino even stronger now. Able to grab full grown stegos when they’re swimming.

[@JamesGRaptor]

5:19 ayyy glad my idea was used

[@nopenopenopepikachu5206]

As a Beipi main I am baby Deino's worst nightmare. The gators also can't catch me so I'm trolling them half the time

[@idekwhoami8808]

I feel like once deinocheirus comes around with deinosuchus it would be like a hippo and crocodile relationship where both could pretty much f each other up, and may not even try and fight at all.

[@ItsEnderDiego]

"mother of all geese" that a befitting name for dienocherius! and a funny idea i had was if juvi bary and juvi suchos looked identical and they can group up with eachother untill auto disbanding when they neared sub-adult. it would give a extra layer of safety in numbers and would lead to funny moments where either species realise their not the same species

[@TheSauropodSquad]

Very interesting discussion. Deino is always going to be a terrifying threat - but I agree with you about Sucho, I think a full grown Sucho should be able to scare off a full grown deino - or at least make each creature really think twice about getting into that fight.

[@jasonberryman1035]

I think it’d make sense for it to depend on water depth, like in deep water it shouldn’t really be that much of a hassle for the trex sized monster to kill a singular sucho but in shallower areas the sucho could take advantage of its height and agility to make the odds a bit more even.

[@Excusatores]

Suchos concept id say is one of tje best, actually portraying it like an animal and not a killing machine and its mechanic being more for survival than straight pvp i love it. Its now my new fav spinosaurid out of the three

[@FantikSalmakii]

I remember Theri concept art showing it splitting a dilo in half with it's claws. Kinda wish Cheirus did the same but instead it could break jaws of deinosuchus by opening themreally far,or even grab smaller dinos n crocs and twist their spine

[@spacebear1130]

i think the only way we could have barys and suchos in evrima, is to change how deino water sense work. Make it more directional to emphasize a ambush mind set for deinos. and have other semi-aquatic ability to stand at waters edge and snatch fish. Any deino player with some brain activity would never let his stamina fully deplet.

[@Agrexxium]

this thought has always been in the back of my mind about how tf bary gon survive with deinos in the water

[@Harase-n9n]

I believe spino should be able to fair quite good against deinosuchus since the isle's deino is based on rugosus the smaller one, instead of hatcheri.

[@randominternetman-kb7vr]

Love all the ideas i hope the ilses impliments some of these

[@titanj7221]

Spinosuarus being serious threat for deinos would be good, only so many large semi aquatics can be at the top and that is a nice back and forth, especially when you think of elder deinos having a better chance

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

elder deino and elder spinos would be insane.

[@tbogeyman]

Yeah on the server i play on regularly there's one law of physics. If there's a hotspot of dinosaur activity, there's a pack of Deinosuchus guaranteed. ( They used to be 5 crocs strong but the admins scaled it down to 2 adult and 1 baby.) But whenever i make a stop and drink on any freshwater body, i carefully overlook the surrounding edge of the water and keep my eyes on them until i can run away close to a heart attack. XD

[@Bir2008]

bro if there would be any changes to spino it would be the tail cuz it could be longer but the amount of bites someone can get would be ridiculous and a longer snout

[@sarico7827]

Agreed not overpowered it's just we don't have much that can stand up to it. I am hopeful for the next couple of added dudes. I don't what it will be like for more water dudes that is a great thing to think about.

[@finnmehlstaubler7888]

Its so sick to hear someone is thinkin THE EXACT SAME i love it. I hope they implement the ideara from all ur vids

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

for mega they did,so who knows

[@dallasjonpaulgrove547]

Deinosuchus is a tanky Heavy tier dinosaur that benefits from two methods. Ambush and Scavenging. While they do tend to get bodied by a Good Stego player they are practically invulnerable to anything smaller than a Stego or another Deino which is why it's gonna be cool to see some Dinosaurs that can throw their weight around and fight back against Deinosuchus. Spinosaurus and Deinochierus are currently the two contenders for Deino hunters, however Deinochierus still needs to be cautious I believe because a few solid headshots will put the Goosemother down for the count, and Deino no longer needs to actively worry about the flanks of the giant Murder Goose like it does with Stego. Spinosaurus is a completely different beast to tackle entirely, and if it gets to weaponize every aspect of itself I do Believe that unless Deinosuchus gets a new growth stage to become heavier, it is entirely screwed. Last I remember, Spinosaurus is going to be 9 tons and have a gruesome 450-500 newton biteforce. Which essentially means that it will be able to match Deinosuchus's damage and tank more. For right now, I'm excited for Update 7 to see the drop of Dilo, Herrara, and Diablo as well and I'm glad mid tiers are getting some much-needed love. Although I can't wait to see some more big boys.

[@hugomas5207]

Mientras se puedan partir las caras los tres sana mente estaremos bien.

[@MrGuy125]

I like the idea of Bary having a dodge ability. It works similar to the lunge but using it in the water grants you Invincibility frames meaning if you time your dodges against a deino you can weave out of the way and escape.

[@neco-5870]

I had the idea that since the Deino isn't a dinosaur and therefore not warm-blooded, it's the killer machine during the day, but is significantly slower and weaker at night when it's colder and should avoid confrontations with suchos. This would mean that the hunter-prey ratio would shift during the day, with the deinos ruling during the day but giving way to the warm-blooded dinosaurs at night.

[@stride3051]

Baryonyx probably shouldn't be in large bodys of water but more near outlets to the ocean or small shallow rivers as shown in the trailer with Suchomimus. I don't find it realistic that it would challenge such a large Deinosuchus.

[@userequaltoNull]

Many real-world fishing and wading birds have polarized vision, and are able to see under the surface of the water better than humans. It could give semi-aquatics a defense against Deinosuchus that is not only realistic, but easy to balance and based on skill, too.

[@brandonshumway5292]

if the baryonix was able to swim through the water faster and drain dienos stam when its grabbed i think that would significantly help it, with most other dinos the dieno just has to grab them and take them to the middle then let go and bite while they try to swim to shore, you dont even need to drown most things

[@Enemy6896]

It would be hilarious if there was quick time events for the mid tier semi-aquatics when they get grabbed by Deinos

[@terminalvelocity3132]

I don't know how that "live and let live" thing got started between Deino and Bei's, but it's a thing on every server I've played. Mind you, there are limits to the shared hospitality...

[@Leon-mk1wn]

4:41 that bary pose reminds me of my fave PS1 game *JPWarpath's Suchomimus*

[@Ejdjcjendnnxjw]

It’s so cool that Minmi is being added to the game since my dad worked on a fossil that was originally labeled Minmi but was actually Kunbarrasaurus

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

oh wow really? thats actually so cool

[@realdaggerman105]

Minmi actually has very long legs for an ankylosaur. This suggests it could run, at least much better than its larger cousins.

[@Jonklestein]

the spino looks like its constantly smirking

[@DARKTIME_FREDDY-1964]

YAY MY FAV DINO IS IN THE VIDEO (baryonix) "suscribes" also im with you with the shoulder feathers they look super ugly XD for the bary vs deino it would be cool that he has a lot of oxihen and also him to be able to slap small deinos (the ones that nearly cant grab him) in the face so it cancells their grab thing and they get stunned also my fav the isle dinos(evrima) are herrera deino spino sucho and bary.

[@timo-2046]

Great video once again! Most of your predictions seem pretty plausible, so good on that👍 Ngl as an Austroraptor fan, I will have to agree too that the shoulder feathering is off-putting/goofy, but hey maybe the point of Austro to be a graciful yet goofy boi? XD

[@Herculesbiggercousin]

I think the Deino either needs to be slower than it is to compensate for it’s raw power, or do something to make its stamina drop faster or have a trade off, like “sprinting” and biting at the same time dings your stam a bit harder than otherwise

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

its stam on land is pretty bad as adult tbh

[@NLance]

I just wish medium to large sizes semi-aquatic animals would have more weight in their walk/run animation to show some struggle, since they evolved to stay in water. Smol spinos could be faster and lighter when walking/running but the larger the spino, the more weight should be added to their walk/run to simulate the effort. Legacy did it well by giving spino a bit of a stop between each step and a weighing down a bit to show its struggle.

[@eyes5204]

you can also see its sail moving from side to side

[@Zhaque]

i think a decent way to balance the deino may be (and please give criticism if this idea needs tweaks) is increase the stamina usage for lunges - perhaps 60%. additionally, make stam regeneration in the water very slow. to regen quickly, the deino has to get out of the water to sun itself, opening an opportunity for other carnivores to ambush it, or just warn smaller dinos that a deino is in the area. additionally, reduce the underwater dash speed, so the deino is not as mobile underwater, as well as showing ripples/bubbles on the surface when one is moving

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

i like the stam usage being huge.

[@royalwiz]

My Dumb Brain thought this was gonna be one of those talks with paleontologists talking about the Life of Spinosaurids dealing with Crocodiles