How Wolverine and the X-Men Died: The True Story

[@PillarofGarbage]

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[@Sid271]

Make a video on the DC animated universe aka the Timmverse

[@Grizabeebles]

If you want to keep going down this video's rabbit hole, look into a fellow named Isaac Perlmutter. Old Ike is the brains behind "Thor, The Dark World", the escalation of the dispute with Fox, and he even tried to fire Kevin Feige.

[@trealsteve]

@@Grizabeebles💯

[@brianwhite9339]

I had a great idea for a second season premiere!

[@juliiju0484]

I think the best way to define this show is to say that it was bold. It took risks, told an overarching story, and tried new things. Sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't, but it definitely didn't deserve to be cancelled.

[@FearlesSLaughteR1]

Batman beyond is just as timeless.

[@doriancoreyscloset421]

What didn't work? This series was top notch

[@juliiju0484]

@@doriancoreyscloset421 This is personal opinion and obviously subjective, but I really don't feel like Iceman, Storm, and Shadowcat were well developed here. They do cool stuff and all, but I never felt like they were there for anything other than to make this story feel more X-Men.

[@doriancoreyscloset421]

@@juliiju0484 I can see that. But the show introduced characters who've never been depicted before like Dust. It was vibrant & had a serious tone. I liked that

[@thomasraines1396]

@@juliiju0484 yeah they just felt there to be there at least Storm had some significance on occasion.

[@rexlumontad5644]

It sucks that great shows like Wolverine and The X-Men, Spectacular Spider-Man and Avengers Earth's Mightiest Heroes get cancelled despite having awesome animation and compelling storytelling. They need to return!

[@Draliseth]

I never really got the Avengers cartoon. Was there some like, mega huge episode that got everyone into it that I missed? I tried it, just never got into it like X-Men Evolution or Justice League.

[@REYTRACER]

​@@Draliseth I thought EMH was the best the Avengers were ever shown on TV

[@theliato3809]

@@Draliseth Overall EMH felt like a very solid avengers show bringing in multiple elements of Marvel canon and its character over 2 seasons of long running arcs and episodic adventures in a similar way to the JL and later JLU animated shows did.

[@vullord666]

@@Draliseth All of them? I mean if you don’t like it you don’t like it. But the show overall did a fantastic job of storytelling, character writing, and adapting comics while making improvements.

[@vullord666]

Unfortunately none of them probably will. EMH is now directly counter to Disney’s MCU and everything has to bow down and cater to that. Spectacular Spiderman is caught up in rights and licensing issues which could be resolved now (Sony and Disney have a better relationship), but I don’t think Sony or Disney would go to the effort and I’m not sure the cast and creators are even able to come back. And Wolverines and the Xmen is a problem twice over. Again its counter to the MCU plans and it had the Fox problem but now that’s bought by Disney but I still wouldn’t expect Disney to bring it back.

[@galvatrontimewars]

They were about to do the only Age of Apocalypse animated storyline to date. We were robbed!

[@bshays21]

I think Fox's The Gifted was about to do something along those lines too towards the end of their 2nd and last season. I did enjoy the show 😊.

[@Koraxus]

Do you think it's possible the new X Men 97 does it? They included that scene of Magneto ripping the adamantium of Wolverine, which I thought would never see adapted. This opens up the possibility of adapting the Onslaught saga, which has only been included in Marvel vs. Capcom

[@user-wy1et9dk9w]

@@Koraxusbased on the ending it is possible. However how likely it is is still up in the air

[@aimeerobidoux7635]

Didn't X-men Evolution do the Age of Apocalypse in its final season? But yeah, WATXM season 2 would've probably been way better than XME's version of the Apocalypse story. (I know I'm a year late replying to this comment).

[@Koraxus]

@@aimeerobidoux7635 They did not. They had an Apocalypse plot but it had nothing to do with the Age of Apocalypse story arc itself, which is based on a dystopic future. Sinister is a very crucial element in Age of Apocalypse, and Sinister was never in X men evolution.

[@X21XXI]

Emma Frost was phenomenal in this show, she was easily my favorite character.

[@christopherbennett5858]

She and Dust are the reason why I finally checked out the comics.

[@RF-tg2eh]

Had this gotten a second season to do The Age of Apocalypse story, I think it would be viewed on the level of Spectacular Spider-Man and EMH. Shame it wasn’t given a chance

[@grapeshot]

I actually like this cartoon quite a bit and it showed that Wolverine had leadership skills and he wasn't just a berserk fighter.

[@dannybowey]

That was my one problem with the show. They wanted to make Wolverine the leader so they gave him Cyclops' personality and vice versa. The characters seemed a little bit off because it it. Wolverine is a great leader but he leads in a Wolverine way. Not a Cyclops way

[@kpftpbq7253]

​@@dannybowey I think that's an oversimplification. I don't think they took on each other's personalities, but they definitely did swap roles in the team dynamic. I think the writers justified that role swap really well (e.g. Cyclops losing Xavier and Jean) and I could see how both characters organically changed to adopt those roles. It was refreshing to see new things tried with these characters, instead of restricting them to the same box that every other adaptation keeps them strictly inside of.

[@thomasraines1396]

@@kpftpbq7253 I didn’t mind Scott being the stand-offish loner in this version honestly.

[@tobishades]

@@dannybowey yeah cos I feel like Wolverine was the face of 2000s X-Men movies and they wanted to capitalize on that

[@zemox2534]

​@@tobishades And they threw Scott under the bus just to make Logan look cool.

[@robdeakin1166]

Wow that's amazing to speak to someone who actually worked on the show. Top quality info!

[@bryanfine986]

That's my cousin. He's done a lot of great work on Marvel cartoons. Such a trip to see him in this video 👍

[@SantiBarrios]

To this day this is still my favorite X-Men cartoon, maybe even my favorite adaptation of them outside the comics if I'm being honest with myself lol. Such a great show!

[@michonnewalker4246]

Same, I consider this better Evoultion

[@richshmula7334]

Better than the original animated series your buggin,this show doesn’t even come close,we so no character growth on any other x men and most episodes were focused mainly on wolverine

[@michonnewalker4246]

@@richshmula7334 So? Still love it

[@richshmula7334]

@@michonnewalker4246 too bad no better else did or it would of gotten other seasons like X-men evolution did,the people wanna see X-men not wolverine and the x men that 1 hit wonder show!!!

[@michonnewalker4246]

@@richshmula7334 Both shows have ended so who cares? Which was more popular

[@scarletspider5850]

Why is every animated X-Men show so good?

[@yara-nd5ky]

The x-men is like a long soap opera they almost always benefit from the format of a series. Imo its one of the reasons the films never truly worked

[@marocat4749]

@@yara-nd5ky Hey most thinks work, bcaus they hav th same vibrant character while having the built in commentary to make it relevant (why i dont trust mcu, they will try ,make them unpolitical whn thats th point why people like them. They feel real) with superpowered soap opera.

[@trevturp6891]

yara What’s are you talking about? Most of the X-Men movies do not work.

[@bashengatheblackmanta7003]

​@@trevturp6891 that's what he said, the x-men movies doesn't work because x-men franchise is something that work better as a high budget tv series. The x-men is a ensemble proprety that benefit from the long serialise(and sometimes soap opera) format.

[@bashengatheblackmanta7003]

​@@yara-nd5ky agreed

[@hyewonderfull]

I loveeed Wolverine and the X-men. I think this series had the best animated version of Wanda the Scarlet Witch. i loved her look and I loved how she actually had a bigger role in the show compared to her other appearances in animation.

[@crazypeopleonsunday7864]

Ya know, it's kind of funny how Scarlet Witch is more closely associated with the Avengers (at least now), but her biggest animated roles are in X-Men cartoons.

[@ShadowSonic2]

She was a pretty important character in X Men Evolution

[@mrx-od3ji]

@@ShadowSonic2 wolverine and the x-men deserved to be cancelled. it failed but x-men the animated series did not fail and the way they did wolverine and the x-men ruined jean grey they ruined wolverine and they destroyed characters and storyline they even destroyed the phoenix thats a slap in the face to x-men fans. Reply

[@marocat4749]

And nighcrawler gets th credit he deserves, and the fun. in the same story arc.

[@Retro_Red]

Just watched this recently and I have to agree. I think it goes: Wolverine and the X-men Evolution The Animated Series I don't think I've seen any of the Man of Action iteration in their shows so I can't really place her on this ranking.

[@thomasraines1396]

I actually have the entire series on DVD and I’m honestly shocked at how short it is but I still really like the show.

[@marlonclark1896]

same

[@bryanfine986]

Hey Josh, it's your cousin Bryan! So cool seeing you here! For what it's worth, I would love to see this show come back. Cheers for the great work, it's always cool seeing your name on these older cartoons.

[@mr.mystere4999]

It's a shame these three shows were cancelled before they could get their proper conclusions. Spectacular Spider-Man ended on two cliffhangers: 1. Norman got away scot-free by faking his own death and making Harry think that Spidey killed him. 2. The drama with Harry, Gwen, and Peter that would have inevitably resulted in something major happening. Avengers EMH had at least one major cliffhanger: THAT WHOLE ENTIRE THING with Surtur and the Enslaved Enchantress who got her boobs censored when she got the red outfit. I'm sure there were other cliffhangers, but this was the biggest one going strictly by memory. And of course we get to the elephant in the room, Wolverine and the X-Men's cliffhanger ending: Surprise, surprise! The good guys stopped an omnicidal machine from destroying everything only for it to pave the way for Apocalypse to take over and reshape the world in his image. Oh, and they were building this up throughout the 26-episode season to further rub salt in the wound.

[@marocat4749]

They went in production o season 2, it just wenr out o money, and disney o course, didnt help.

[@mandalorianhunter1]

It's been a while since you made one of these videos and I know you love this universe so much I miss this show as well as EMH and especially Spectacular Spider-Man

[@crazypeopleonsunday7864]

Awesome video. I love the amount of research you put into it. That was some top notch P.I. investigating. I really like the other videos you've done on the specific characters of EMH, and would be interested in similar videos about the characters from this show, if you feel so inclined to make such videos.

[@kpftpbq7253]

I second this comment extremely strongly.

[@JimmyMacram]

That's some solid investigative journalism. Not the most important topic in the world, but us nerds appreciate it lol.

[@TSDTalks22]

god it's my fucking dream to acquire an interview simply but making a video about something someone worked on and them seeing it

[@PillarofGarbage]

Very surreal experience!

[@_fendiman97]

I loved this show as a kid, kinda sucks it was cancelled

[@mrx-od3ji]

wolverine and the x-men deserved to be cancelled. it failed but x-men the animated series did not fail and the way they did wolverine and the x-men ruined jean grey they ruined wolverine and they destroyed characters and storyline they even destroyed the phoenix thats a slap in the face to x-men fans. Reply

[@jarvisdunbar1932]

@@mrx-od3ji H

[@tecpaocelotl]

The best way to edit Wikipedia is to have a blog entry on it, give it some time, and then source the entry on Wikipedia. KZbin video gets debated.

[@Apexthebeast]

Not only did it had amazing animation and a compelling and daring storyline it took risks that most stories these days don't take. Loved the whole idea of how a society views a certain marginalized group, and how said group fights back against it. I want this show back, if any show deserves a renewal or even a reboot with a more fleshed out story, and engaging concepts, it could be consider a masterpiece 🙏🏻⚔️

[@Mando44646]

I really disliked that this title centered Wolverine, as if he wasn't *also* the X-Men

[@parkerboy795]

Looking back, that was a mistake.

[@bshays21]

I never liked that either. Even with him being a fav. If anything it'd be Prof X. And the X-Men lol 😅. But no it's X-Men imho and that's it.

[@SamM6599]

You're complaining about a show focusing on wolverine...... when it's called Wolverine AND the X-Men? I bet you hated The Wolverine because it didn't focus on Viper. Or Logan because it didn't focus on Caliban. 🤦‍♂️

[@MatthewCobalt]

I still hate how Wikipedia works. Any new piece of information only gets veted when it's released in a book or publication. A source where the research is done already wouldn't be added because their rating of proof is so obnoxious.

[@MannysMillennialMouth]

All i know is X-Men deserves better representation on an animation & cinema scale The X-Men are booming hard in the current comics; it's so much substance that can easily translate well on screen (especially in this current climate)

[@zemox2534]

The current X men comics sucks.

[@bshays21]

Yes I wish Marvel would have multiple X-Men animations going on. One off movie's, the current 97, long format anime types, ect.

[@TevyaSmolka]

I love wolverine and the X-Men it was such a great show and did the X-Men justice and to see this show get cancelled was just sad and depressing and it still breaks my heart we never ever got a continuation of this amazing show and let the show have a proper conclusion especially with them setting up age of apocalypse which could've been amazing and badass at least in my opinion.

[@jacobrivera1721]

Same here so much potential wasted

[@TevyaSmolka]

@@jacobrivera1721 indeed

[@OpticalSorcerer]

While I hate this show for making the rest of the cast feel largely underutilized (Storm, Forge, Beast, Angel--even Kurt and Rogue after they rejoined), the main plot of preventing future catastrophies was amazing.

[@jalontillmon2807]

🙄

[@Deathstroke4200]

After that Apocalypse appearance in the end just got me hyped for season 2. Looked for it and I found out that was it. Completely devastating

[@DanielPaderanga-x9q]

Now that Disney plus owns Marvel does that mean the potential shows like Wolverine and the X-Men might get a comeback or even the second series that we've always wanted what do all of you think🤔❓️

[@CitanulsPumpkin]

When in doubt, blame Ike Perlmutter.

[@damenicionscott]

Definitely an underrated X-men Cartoon I know the original cartoon is still beloved today but I was a big fan of X-men evolution, but this cartoon is great If only it got more episodes, but I own it all on DVD. The theme and characters really well storytelling

[@MsSumoon]

From all the X-Men shows, this one and Evolution deserved more than the 1990s animated series to be honest to get revivals. The 90s one had a great run and didn't need more. But it's sad that this X-men show had to die thanks to executives mismanaging things, despite that, creative people managed to create a good product even with all the stress and mismanaging, and at least the Animation Studio is still up, it's nice to see that they didn't die and are proud of the show too, it's not something they want to hide. As someone who works in this creative field, it's always a gamble to have a project being green lit or not and when it gets not knowing how long the project is going to survive, will it get a second season? Will it get enough funding? And so on.

[@jkhachad]

Great video. Thanks for the details. I've been wondering for years. Such a strong show to go away so quickly.

[@dominicfuentes4070]

It's still a great show but it's a shame that they canceled it after one season.

[@CBright7831]

I’ve never actually watched this show just for the simple reason that I know it was canceled after one season when it was clearly meant to go on. At least the severely under rated X-Men: Evolution got to end on a good note (although they had more plans for that show as well before it got axed.)

[@chillabrew_glycolinstall]

This was the best ERA of marvel animation. Between this and avengers Earth's mightiest heroes we were spoiled!!

[@MSUHitman]

It was also weird because at first the only way to buy the entire season was to import the steelbook DVD set from Canada, and then meanwhile randomly years later the entire season was put out on Blu-ray. My cousin bought me the Steelbook DVD for my birthday, and when I randomly saw the Blu-ray set I went ahead and got it and I have both because I couldn’t bring myself to sell the Steelbook DVD set since it was a gift.

[@marvinp90]

This is the show that made me realize how truly badass and awesome Emma Frost was

[@alanguages]

Wolverine and the X-Men could have at least five seasons, with these particular potential alternate future timeline stories. Season 1: Days of Future Past Season 2: Age of Apocalypse Possible stories as follows Season 3- Season 5: Season 3: House of M Season 4: Old Man Logan Season 5: X-Men 2099 List other alternative stories for consideration.

[@gatsuku2]

Wolverine should never be in a leadership role.

[@visionaerie]

I agree Wolverine. his character works best when he's always depicted as a well-meaning rogue ... with anger management issues . ..who is always struggling with teamwork despite his best intentions.

[@vincentfranklin17]

I loved this show! It was depressing news indeed, when I heard the show was cancelled!

[@caris5944]

There’s so much information in this video! I don’t know how you find this stuff. Another great Pillar of Garbage video!

[@theamericanshepherd5378]

I'm surprised it was ever made. I never saw Wolverine as much of a team player let alone a leader.

[@jalontillmon2807]

I totally get what you mean! You fans are so used to seeing Logan as the lone wolf that they can't picture him stepping up as a leader. But hey, sometimes those unexpected leaders end up being the most inspiring ones, right? Who knows, maybe Logan has some hidden leadership skills waiting to shine!

[@virgilsteve]

I really did love this X-Men series. Was one of my favorites if not my absolute favorites and even though a part of me doesn't trust Disney right now I still kind of want to see this animated X-Men series come back

[@Peregrine7567]

I rewatched WATXM recently, and was reminded why I liked it as a kid. The designs and characterizations are awesome, the plot is a nice mix of new and old storylines, and the writers gave time for other characters, not just Wolverine, to shine. Even though the show is named for him, and he’s one of the most popular X-Men characters, there’s plenty of Wolverine content already, and I loved the episodes where other characters got a chance to shine. The show ended with such a killer cliffhanger, and I always wondered what killed it, so I’m really glad to find your video explaining why it ended. Maybe it and the other Yost-verse shows will come back, someday. Here’s to hoping!

[@mariannedarrow7227]

Yes it was a great show. Interesting to know the truth about what happened.

[@PeachMilkPopp]

I would love to see a continuation of this series.

[@robertdeffenbaugh9004]

Sadly we never got a Season 5 of X-Men Evolution either.

[@ShadowSonic2]

At least the finale in S4 still worked as an ending

[@PrimateSoul]

Casting Steve Blum from the original 90s series was the best decision they made though

[@MarioSonicUniverse]

​@@sircaspeedy5972That was Cathal J. Dodd. Steve Blum didn't voice him until X-Men Legends

[@Garry_Combine]

​@@MarioSonicUniverseit's weird, I've seen a lot who seem to think Blum voiced him. Mandela effect maybe?

[@steveosborn7224]

Well tbh I hate the role of Wolverine as leader of focal point. He’s amazing as the side character and loner. I get wanting character growth but his has sucked for the last 20 years.

[@jalontillmon2807]

Wolverine has proven himself to be a strong and capable leader in many comic storylines. He has led teams like the X-Men and X-Force, showing his strategic skills and ability to guide others. Despite his rough exterior, he has a sense of loyalty and protects his team like a true leader. Wolverine has showcased his leadership skills in various ways. For example, he has led the X-Men during critical missions, making tough decisions and guiding the team through challenging situations. He's known for his tactical expertise, adaptability, and ability to inspire others. His experience and dedication make him a respected leader among his fellow mutants. I think some fans might view Wolverine as more of an anti-hero because of his rough and aggressive nature. He's not your typical "by-the-book" superhero, and that can sometimes cloud people's perception of his leadership qualities. But if you look beyond his gruff exterior, you'll see that he's a true leader who cares deeply about his team and will do whatever it takes to protect them.

[@misterelom]

Sad that this show ended prematurely because it was great. Don't know if it's true but I once heard that this show existed in the same universe as Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes? If that's true then that's pretty cool.

[@sahilhossain8204]

Lore of How Wolverine and the X-Men Died: The True Story momentum 100

[@karnage985]

We cannot rule out the financial collapse of 2008. Money tightened up for years to come and WATXM was a casualty.

[@Zap_Master99]

This was my first interaction with the X-men series, and since learning its cancellation, always hoped it would return someday, for Christopher Yost, Disney should at least finish this series if they will never renew EMH.

[@Joshua_Shadow_Manriguez]

The Disney deal had LITERALLY NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS SHOW GETTING CANCELLED. It has literally everything to do with the pissing contest of greed between Marvel Studios and Marvel Entertainment, a.k.a. it was literally just Marvel and Fox. The Disney deal is just a convenient scapegoat. The pissing contest it also why the X-Men are missing from Marvel vs. Capcom Infinite. To inject Disney as a reason at all is too simplistic, since they would only have bolstered funding if Marvel Studios and Marvel entertainment/Fox weren't being greedy and trying to spite each other.

[@juliiju0484]

Isn't that what the video is saying

[@Joshua_Shadow_Manriguez]

@Juliiju04 up until it tries to place some level on Disney and act like Marvel Entertainment/Fox and Marvel Studios aren't petty bitches who sank the future of a show and try to bury an entire brand because of greed. There are villains, but only in how stupid they were being. Funding wasn't the true culprit. Money yes, but with things that would have happened regardless of if the show had funding. That is not what the video was saying. It kept trying to place the blame on Disney. I had to post basically the same comment as the first one in the last video PoG did.

[@davidsykes6584]

I missed this show when it came out, and never saw much about it. But a show that seemed to have Mr Sinister as a focus and also featured Spiral, I'm sorry I missed it!

[@nikunjdixit1175]

This show did Cyclops so dirty that I was overall happy it got cancelled. They really made him the saddest and most pathetic version of the character possible.

[@Fenris30]

One of the Last OG X-Men to Show Up when Canonically He was the FIRST. Took away all of the Respect he had from others. The whole Jean thing. This is not the Way.

[@nikunjdixit1175]

@@Fenris30 Agreed. He's one of my favs of the X-Men and it was horrible to see how he was treated. At least in previous incarnation of X-Men animated series, like the 90's cartoon or X-Men: Evolution, which is the version I kind of grew up with, he was given some respect.

[@kpftpbq7253]

I thought he was written really sympathetically. My favourite character in the show.

[@nikunjdixit1175]

@@kpftpbq7253 He was awful. I don't know how anyone can like this version. He was such a needy, pathetic character, who couldn't do anything without Jean.

[@kpftpbq7253]

@@nikunjdixit1175 I think losing your mentor and the love of your life would result in some grieving. His flahback episode is probably the best X-Men episode across all of the X-Men shows.

[@anubis5244]

I loved this show. I still have the series on dvd 😂🤘🏾. I was ready for age of apocalypse season 2. These shows need to take proper surveys and listen to us fans.

[@level3xfactor]

This whole era of Marvel trying to push the X-Men under the rug in every other aspect really sucked. It affected the comics and even Marvel vs. Capcom Infinite. I can see why lumping the show’s cancellation in with all that would make sense.

[@otaking3582]

Compared to the 90's X-Men and X-Men: Evolution, Wolverine and the X-Men was not a very good show. It likely would've ended soon even without Disney's involvement.

[@corneliusfarrell8673]

I dont see how it's not a good animated show it was taking a different direction which I like bout it making Wolverine a leader and I ain't had no problem wit that

[@starbury64]

This was informative. Corruption and greed happens in every organization, but the show should not have suffered. Love to see it back on TV!

[@jazzi11xa]

Emma frost is the star of the show

[@Juicelee777ssj]

Much like spectacular Spider-Man I believe that if this show was allowed to continue it would have been far greater than it's '90s predecessor

[@user-po2yt1vs8d]

one of the best animated xmen shows!

[@MrOrcshaman]

I liked it, it was its own story separate from the comics (kind of how X-Men evolution was). I did think they made Wolverine/Logan more like Hugh Jackman then his comic book self (he was dam tall in this series) but they got the characters and design and setting down.

[@demetricsmith471]

Wolverine and the X-men was made by Nickelodeon. The series had no ties to Marvel or Disney as it was created by a direct competitor. The series aired on Nickelodeon alongside Iron-Man: Armored Adventures. The series wouldn't have generated much money for Marvel and probably would have made the Fox acquisition more difficult for Disney. X-men Evolution was a Warner Brothers made series that premiered for another direct competitor to Disney/Marvel. I can only assume that all parties were unwilling to relinquish ownership of their unique creations. Craig Kyle and Christopher Yost were writers for the animation arm of Marvel in the early 2000's. They were great comic writers who produced scripts for both shows. Those individuals have gone on to write for the big screen and probably would be too costly for an animated feature. I followed those gentlemen as comic writers. They aren't writing comics now. They moved on to better pay days. I wish they would come back for more but it is very doubtful.

[@AmaanHasanDilawar]

Sometimes we may never know what exactly happened but it should be associated with budget most of the time because remenber that 2d animation is never expensive as vfx movie or game development etc and their history is and running for the most part.

[@jordanthomas4379]

0:34 I’m a zoomer and I remember enjoying all three of these shows, along with: Generator Rex, Sym Bionic Titan, Avatar, & Young Justice

[@pyrosianheir]

I suspect that at this point, the only way this will ever come back is AFTER 97 wraps up again.

[@angrynerd4178]

Dude this show is one of many shows I grew up with and loved...then got cancelled. Young Justice, Thunder Cats 2011

[@lancefullmer9384]

I think a resurrection could still happen now that Disney owns fox theres almost no reason they couldnt like it seems like they are in a position now where the money problems/ corporate drama wouldnt be as much of a hurdle

[@CriticsCupofficial]

They’re bringing back the 1997 show so I don’t think they want clashing titles

[@CriticsCupofficial]

I hope they add this and evolution to Disney plus uk (I know it’s in other regions)

[@marlonclark1896]

same

[@mrx-od3ji]

@@marlonclark1896 no wolverine and the x-men and x-men evolution are the worst ones they stay off of tv.

[@mrx-od3ji]

@@marlonclark1896 wolverine and the x-men deserved to be cancelled. it failed but x-men the animated series did not fail and the way they did wolverine and the x-men ruined jean grey they ruined wolverine and they destroyed characters and storyline they even destroyed the phoenix thats a slap in the face to x-men fans. you should watch x-men the animated series that was the only good x-men cartoon.

[@marlonclark1896]

@@mrx-od3ji no you're wrong

[@mrx-od3ji]

@marlon clark I'm right after xmen the animated series they started failing and became worse.

[@abigfavor]

I'm on the younger millennial side, but this show started in 2009, I feel like there are just as many zoomers or more who watched it than millennials. It's not the 1992 series that I did watch

[@KrytoRift]

Marvel cuts off their nose to spite their face? Noooo...that would never happen 🙄

[@BladedBishop]

Wolverine and the Xmen was a bad ass series. Sad we didn't get to see the follow up.

[@HawkOfLight1]

They revived the show that had two endings and kept dead the show with a nail biting cliff hanger.

[@atnightmostly]

As a viewer I always felt the prob with this show was they couldn’t decide if it was for 5yr olds or 15yr olds.

[@kpftpbq7253]

I thought they did a good job appealing to both ages.

[@sophiawilson8696]

This is unfortunate ☹️ that this good show was cancelled.

[@valleyofthedawlz]

This show had a lot of potential. Disney+ should pick this up.

[@adrianuseduard2994]

One of my many dreams in life is creating a place like Genosha thanks to the animated series. At least the broad idea of it, a place where social outcast, orphans, etc, can learn, be themself, and have people to lean on. Will it ever happen? Idk 😂

[@kail4997]

Why bother building an island utopia if you’re not gonna let giant robot with death rays attack it?

[@morty105]

This was an excellent series that deserved a full run.

[@novabonk]

This was my favorite X-Men show as a kid. Really wished there was more.

[@theprophet9656]

One of the best marcel cartoons. Up there with Avengers Assemble imo

[@Blakk_Wolf7]

The Fox X-Men/FF were total trash. 90%was wrong or outright LIES. I'm so relieved Disney bought to properties, now they can be done properly

[@JKevz1]

X-men evolution got cancelled during apocalypse arc. Wolverine & the x-men got cancelled during apocalypse arc. Like, *BRUH!*

[@devinbrewer8956]

The only thing i didnt like was wolverine being the main character and always winning every fight and being out of character. Also cyclops just letting logan take lead and be in Charge didnt sit right with me, but at least they had cyclops kicking ass.

[@jalontillmon2807]

🙄

[@LadyAndreaRose1701]

I am an X-llennial and hearing this called old really makes my Greys stand out ...❤

[@blackphoenix77]

This show was the definition of "just OK." Wolverine never should have been the focal point of the show, for one.

[@PillarofGarbage]

idk pretty good I reckon

[@parkerboy795]

I liked it when I watched it, but since I'm trying to get into the comics now, I have to agree. The X-Men is more than just Wolverine.

[@anaalvarez1194]

Then came X-Men 97 and the fans are cheering 👏!!

[@DarthTingleBinks]

I'm 19 and I DID see it because I pretty much only watched superhero shit when I was younger (hell, that hasn't changed much) and I stumbled upon it once upon a time on Netflix. I was super bummed at how short it was.

[@ComedianBobFarrell]

I wish this show would get a revival

[@darthonyx2382]

Loved this show as a kid, but outside of a handful of characters it was such a disservice to long tenured members.

[@thomasraines1396]

Yeah quite a few characters are just kind of “there”.

[@gibbs615]

I don't care WHAT the problem or issue was! This Wolverine & the X-Men series still should NOT have been cancelled and something needs to be done to bring this back for a second season!

[@ziggyhogan7560]

long time x fan from the 80s this is up there with the 90s cartoon if not better it was a great show with an ending that had me keen as for season 2. I was a teen in the 90s xmen time so loved that but this show really was great. So was avenger earths mightest heros i think it was called before it was changed after 2 seasons

[@Me-wx1mt]

bruh I just started this show a couple days ago how did you know lmao

[@ChristoTitan]

Damn, my brothers and i rented the beat-up, crappy dvd bundles of this show from our local library and binged the crap out of it and EMH. Man, i miss those times

[@ked49]

This show and emh are the two cartoons I asked to rent when my family would go rent movies

[@GraveEnd]

Random but this show has my favorite design of cyclops

[@Nfshotpursuitking]

Betweem this and X-men evolution, Marvel really doesnt like giving us Xmen shows to completion. Evolution got cancelled during production for its 5th season and im forever sad about that and Earths Mightiest heroes getting cancelled for MCU promotion with that lazy Avengers Assemble show

[@mr.moviemafia]

This really makes me appreciate WATXM more because it’s amazing how good it came out considering all the bts drama. I always really liked this show as a kid and still did when I rewatched it recently, but it’s probably my least favorite X-Men animated series for one main reason. More than any other adaptation, it felt like it was trying to combine EVERY other version of the X-Men into one thing: the movies (Wolverine being the tall leader with a close connection to Rogue, Beast looking like Grammar, Scott not being as focused on), XTAS (some of the costumes and character inclusions from wackier elements), Evolution (same creators/designers returned for this show and it almost works as a rough narrative sequel), and the “Astonishing X-Men” comics. Many of these things were done well, and many characters are spectacularly done in it, but because it reminds me of so many other things, it feels like it has the least defined identity of all the animated adaptations to me. Still, I would’ve loved to see it continue for a couple more seasons like Evolution

[@alvinbgyt5143]

what annoyed me is the title wolverine and the x-men. i don't know why they had to place wolverines name there.