Howard Zinn at MIT 2005 - The Myth of American Exceptionalism

[@jonathanlax734]

I was a student of Howard Zinn at BU in the early 1980s and even served him as an informal intern (informal since BU President "Herr Docktor" Sibler refused to fund student interns for him). He was an inspiring teacher and a straight wonderful guy to be around, very friendly, with a wicked sense of humor. You could always count on Prof Zinn to support any just cause, from anti-war protests to labor strikes. Long live his memory.

[@carolechetwynd-bryant534]

In the 1960’s, Viet Nam, and all that , there was an ad on tv “ you can’t have a war if nobody shows up”

[@moesiatestecles1975]

6:30 Intro skip service

[@koboldgeorge2140]

o7

[@uberNerdStatus]

The hero we need.

[@rudmanpaul2812]

Good good good double good

[@maheshhordagoda8212]

The real MVP right here

[@violent_bebop9687]

Is that why Billions of people want to come here? Because it's not exceptional? Apple is not an American company? Ok Zinn dude, whatever

[@codybanks1942]

One of my favorite Zinn quotes; "Patriotism isn't believing in your government. Patriotism is believing in the principles that your government is supposed to uphold"

[@ionutbalta6607]

@PostHawk They conquered Spain just like any Nation did like USA when it "manifested destiny."

[@colonelfrogs]

@PostHawk the fraud is you playing scholar over the internet

[@patriciadanon6191]

Zinni was a communist and a liar his book on his fake book on history was debunked by other historians this man was evil and he misled many and his book is still misleading many I never knew about him but they I know how the schools are misleading many students and others to take America down the road to communism

[@colonelfrogs]

@PostHawk being labeled a historian lol, and who the hell is Howard Zin

[@colonelfrogs]

@PostHawk question, why are you hell bent on commenting on KZbin threads about this? And what are some examples of things he lied about?

[@ToddWright2]

Man, the throwback to the Bush doctrine. I forgot about those discussions I had with EVERYONE concerning the illegal re-invasion of Iraq. Thanks, Dr. Zinn! May you be resting in peace.

[@daytonabeachUSA]

Resting in power for sure.

[@chrisflanagan4495]

May he be rotting in hell!!! And he most surely is!!!

[@FAMIZ26]

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[@cheri238]

Social movements. Cornel West 2024 ❤

[@lasagnajohn]

It isn't illegal or immoral to attack bad guys and save millions if not billions of lives. It's ALWAYS a tough call, but POTUS has rights, responsibilities, and is ELECTED to the office. POTUS can't be guilty of crimes other than U.S. Law; only WE THE PEOPLE can be. Sadam made binding agreements to stay in power after Gulf War. Then he broke them a dozen times. He had been bragging about having WMD. He was also a devout pan-Arabist. China is hard to deal with but at least they don't hate us. A pan-Arab entity would HATE us, and would definitely prefer to deal with either China and Russia. If we were too hippie to nip that in the bud early, you could say good-bye to Ukraine, Taiwan, and Israel just for starters. How was it illegal? The U.S. President is only subject to U.S. Law. POTUS can break treaty agreements and commitments as he sees fit unless they are made U.S. Law by Congress. Some are, some aren't. Not that it was legally necessary but U.S. Congress did pre-approve the war. unanamously except for Obama if memory serves. I was against Iraq 2 but I was young and dumb. I've lived a LOT, seen thing, far more educated, far wiser now. Zinn, Chomsky, etc are GREAT Americans. We would be totally screwed without them. That said, they are only a part of the puzzle that is understanding the Worlds' realities. U.S. power and willingness to use it keeps a whole lot of badness in check. It's OUR job, yours and mine, to keep it honest.

[@baldwintheanchorite]

Bish Sanyal, thanks for welcoming me personally for being here x what a wonderful man to reach through 15 years and a whole cosmic web to this moment for me. What a privelege to be in the audience.

[@baldwintheanchorite]

The jijivisha is strong

[@williamwhitten7820]

You will be gnashing your teeth in the new dystopia brought to you by traitors like Zinn in the very near future. All you Commie freaks should burn in hell.

[@matthewmaguire1716]

@@baldwintheanchorite According to an article, 15 Hindi Words You Can’t Translate Into English, Ever, “Jijivisha means the intense desire to live and to continue living to the fullest in the highest sense of being” (Mukherjee, 2017). Another way to look at this is this word describes someone who loves their life and has a strong ambition to prosper.

[@31acruz]

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[@JamesChan1983]

That disaster took place on November 6, 2024. The myth of American exceptionalism vanished overnight.

[@booblebopple3455]

America is as good as dead because of the right wing here. It’s so sad

[@paulgibby6932]

1:32:42 "We have a long way to go". RIP Howard Zinn. A long way to go to solidify social consciousness in the US. It's tough that labor unions have (apparently) lost their strength. Workers should be united no matter what trade, no matter what country they live in.

[@freenational]

The elites know the power of unions. That is why the leaders are corrupted as soon as they are elected.

[@godssara6758]

Zinn is a liar.

[@williamwhitten7820]

We don't have that far to go Gibby, now that the Neo-Marxist Biden regime is in power, the United States is the closest it has come to loosing it's sovereignty and freedom since the Civil War, all due to the vile anti-American teachings of this Communist traitor Howard Zinn, that prepped the younger generations of his time for the vile Woke Critical Race nonsense of the current era. *Enjoy your new poverty that is due to a neighborhood near you very very soon.*

[@josef2012]

Amen 🙏💗

[@josef2012]

@@godssara6758 Derrrrrp

[@Ronniezim]

Thanks so much for uploading this!

[@clgraff76]

Us Americans are exceptional at denial.

[@charlescook5542]

Nah we know it’s bs, the US has some of the worst voter turnouts for its elections compared to other countries. It’s obvious the revolving door politician-lobbyist-businessman, I just wished they would pave the damn roads more than the occasional decade.

[@cosmicHalArizona]

No we're not. 😁

[@harsimarbhatia2927]

@@charlescook5542 tell that to all the right wing cryptofascist morons in the comment sections

[@91dodgespiritrt]

"Us Americans are exceptional at denying" that we are exceptional thanks to the exceptionalism of "superior" people like Christopher Columbus, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson.

[@91dodgespiritrt]

@Bok Choy holding dual citizenship with Is-fake Israel, no doubt.

[@ronaldelliott4373]

“I support my country always. I support my government when they deserve it.” ... Twain... Thank you Howard for reminding us, like Twain, to be reasoned critical thinkers. Peace.

[@wnklee6878]

When was the last time my government deserved it? Watch the 3 minute clip "You have no choice" by George Carlin. If I send the link youtube deletes this comment.

[@roselawson277]

So you support criminals? Nice

[@91dodgespiritrt]

So an author of one stupid book should determine citizens view of their "government". That's SO stupid. . Go back to your video games, WUS and hiding in your mommy's closet.

[@wnklee6878]

@@91dodgespiritrt It is not ONE author, there are millions. American exceptionalism consists of arrogance and ignorance. And 800 military bases in 120 countries kzbin.info/www/bejne/h4mpgaWlf6hofLs Go back to your exceptionalism

[@wnklee6878]

@@91dodgespiritrt kzbin.info/www/bejne/bIuQdIKLapl2d8U

[@Pomoriee]

My high school teacher put us onto Zinn. And now, decade or so later, I’m happy to hear him speak. He is truly a gem. And American exceptionalism is a plague.

[@jimluebke3869]

Why does this audience assume that countries that see each other as equals, don't fight? That ignores most of the history of humanity.

[@MrSp0iler]

Why is everyone silent that constitution of USA was written only for white people and that it is constitutional republic not democracy

[@titanwarrior4886]

@@MrSp0iler Say that again for the slow and sleepy!

[@comentario-ur8rd]

Maybe it's referring to the nuclear era

[@SherwinChow-cg3nw]

It has more to do with perceived adversaries from each countries defense & national security apparatuses. They’ll always seeking a ‘boogie man.’ They can’t seek any one country as it’s equivalent & even if that was possible they would exaggerate as in the case of the former Soviet Union where US did so to exert more pressure on Congress for its military industrial complex even when relative peace & stability was present.

[@MrSp0iler]

@@SherwinChow-cg3nw As 1 speaker said, aboriginal roots.

[@tonyedward6909]

When you are convinced you are "chosen people" or exceptional whether by a god or a nation state, you'll have no problem abusing others.

[@aisaxonawiat6484]

Too bad for you Zin was a communist liar and fabricated most everything he said.

[@aisaxonawiat6484]

@Dodd Rougeau ..... Try doing some actual research before the real history is completely re written or removed. If you don't think America is exceptional, you haven't lived outside the United States.

[@elliegonzales8212]

​@@aisaxonawiat6484 Why is outside the United States the way it is? Much of it has to do with United States foreign policy....you're the one who needs to research friend. By American's standard of exceptionalism Sweeden, Canada, the Netherlands, etc. are far,far, beyond exceptional.

[@aisaxonawiat6484]

@@elliegonzales8212 ...... Go live in these places if you think they are better....common sense would dictate that. I know you have never lived in a Communist country and you do not understand Communist ideology, what life is like there, or their plans.... past, present, or future. You do not see people fighting to gain entry into any other country on Earth, there is a reason people around the world are willing to risk everything to come to America and there is no more loyal citizen of the United States than those who have lived in a communist country and understand the difference and they are grateful for what it means to live in America. Communists have almost completely destroyed everything America was intended to be, but God will not be mocked. Judgment and correction is happening and these communists will not be in power for long. America has been declared by God to be a land choice above all other lands and whosoever will possess the land will possess it in righteousness or they will be swept off and this is according to the Abrahamic Covenant God made with Abraham and those under the said covenant...... When George Washington took the oath of office, he understood and swore to uphold this covenant on behalf of all people who would possess this land going forward. What you are witnessing now is a retraction of those blessings of that covenant. When there is a retraction of blessings, it happens in reverse order in which the blessings were given; the overwhelming majority of people living in America today are completely unaware of this covenant and the consequences for breaking that covenant. Communism has been in the United States now for over 100 years and their infrastructure is strong and deep and permeates all levels of government, all parties, and all factions of society ….. Especially within the media. These same people who have commandeered the government are in control of all governments around the world now and they are in the process of establishing a global communist centralized one world government as we speak. America is ripening for destruction, but that destruction will be poured out upon all nations prior to the return of Christ. There is much more to it than what I have mentioned here, but it is not reasonable to be able to cover all details in a KZbin post.

[@aisaxonawiat6484]

@Dodd Rougeau..... I am in agreement with what you say here, that was a good post.

[@shiblysadiq8680]

Wonderful initiative aimed at crossfertization of many different ideas about America prevailing among intellectuals across the world. The discussions are exceedingly illuminating.

[@31acruz]

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[@Elisa-mg3rc]

It warms the heart to hear such a kind and gentle view.

[@thetruthaboutscienceandgod6921]

America is exceptional because it was founded on the belief in individual freedom. No other country has ever been founded on that unique principle. Take care.

[@molliestanton2869]

@@thetruthaboutscienceandgod6921 Too bad that idea of " individual freedom," didn't apply to the native residents.

[@thetruthaboutscienceandgod6921]

@@tombash4329 Hey, tom: You must learn to think critically: 1) The African captives were sold into slavery by other black Africans. No, that does not absolve the U.S. of taking part in slavery. The Civil War did that. 2) The Native Americans were constantly at war with one another. The expansion eventually brought peace throughout the land. Native Americans received reservation land and today many tribes rolling in cash and are laughing all the way to the bank as a result of their right to have casinos on their reservations. 3) It's unfair of you to judge people who lived a hundred or two hundred or three hundred years ago by today's moral standards. In fact, it's quite possible that 50 or 100 years from now, your moral beliefs will be questioned and ridiculed. 4) America is the greatest country on Earth. Just ask the millions of aliens who have been migrating to the U.S. just during the past 19 months. They aren't risking their lives to get to Russia or China or any other country are they? Think, tom, think. Then, watch my two brief videos to learn more about Science and God. Take care.

[@thetruthaboutscienceandgod6921]

@@tombash4329 Hey, tom: You must learn to think critically: 1) The African captives were sold into slavery by other black Africans. No, that does not absolve the U.S. of taking part in slavery. The Civil War did that. 2) The Native Americans were constantly at war with one another. The expansion eventually brought peace throughout the land. Native Americans received reservation land and today many tribes rolling in cash and are laughing all the way to the bank as a result of their right to have casinos on their reservations. 3) It's unfair of you to judge people who lived a hundred or two hundred or three hundred years ago by today's moral standards. In fact, it's quite possible that 50 or 100 years from now, your moral beliefs will be questioned and ridiculed. 4) America is the greatest country on Earth. Just ask the millions of aliens who have been migrating to the U.S. just during the past 19 months. They aren't risking their lives to get to Russia or China or any other country are they? Think, tom, think. Then, watch my two brief videos to learn more about Science and God. Take care.

[@thetruthaboutscienceandgod6921]

@@molliestanton2869 Hey, Mollie You must learn to think critically: 1) The African captives were sold into slavery by other black Africans. No, that does not absolve the U.S. of taking part in slavery. The Civil War did that. 2) The Native Americans were constantly at war with one another. The expansion eventually brought peace throughout the land. Native Americans received reservation land and today many tribes rolling in cash and are laughing all the way to the bank as a result of their right to have casinos on their reservations. 3) It's unfair of you to judge people who lived a hundred or two hundred or three hundred years ago by today's moral standards. In fact, it's quite possible that 50 or 100 years from now, your moral beliefs will be questioned and ridiculed. 4) America is the greatest country on Earth. Just ask the millions of aliens who have been migrating to the U.S. just during the past 19 months. They aren't risking their lives to get to Russia or China or any other country are they? Think, tom, think. Then, watch my two brief videos to learn more about Science and God. Take care.

[@jkstewartcreative]

As I prepare to surrender a book I have held on to for a long long time because its a library book, I do so glad to have read it and glad that it provides me with an understanding of what Mr. Zinn continues to touch upon. That book is GUNFIGHTER NATION. Its rather lengthy it by a man named R. SLOTKIN.

[@TranscendianIntendor]

Dick Gregory's "No More Lies" is not to be missed either.

[@cheri238]

​@@TranscendianIntendor 🙏❤️🌎🕊🎶🎵📚

[@31acruz]

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[@goranbalen8222]

My country is the world, my religion is to do good, all mankid are my bretheren. Thomas Paine

[@graterdeddly9527]

Thomas Paine was a wacko -- he was so pleased to see the French Revolution until they threw him in prison, and he missed being guillotined by dumb luck, as the crazy radical left always eats its own. The American Revolution was conservative at heart, and intended to preserve natural liberties against tyrannical government. Howard Zinn is one of those that is blind to the that fact is only too happy to tear down the exact institutions that are protecting his liberty to spout off his nonsense.

[@randyg2803]

@@graterdeddly9527 you understand in the american revolution we fought against the tories right The Conservative Party, officially the Conservative and Unionist Party, and also known colloquially as the Tories, Tory Party, or simply the Conservatives, is a political party in the United Kingdom. Ideologically, the Conservatives sit on the centre-right of the political spectrum.

[@graterdeddly9527]

@@randyg2803 I'm talking about "small c" conservative -- they were fighting for long standing rights associated with the Common Law, ones that they felt had been violated by a tyrannical King. That would be somewhat like Hobbes v. Locke -- once where the monarch can do as he likes as long as he does not threaten one's life (Hobbes) versus the monarch violating basic "endowed by our creator" rights. That's an essentially conservative idea, not revolution for the sake of overturning the existing establishment -- one can have a conservative revolution, it just depends on whether what is being overturned (such as an radical leftist regime), and what is being put in its place, like one that observes long held and established rights (American Republic). The Whigs were out of power during most of the Revolution, but they were in a coalition by the time of the Peace of Paris at the end (1783), and the PM was a former Whig -- but 1770s British domestic politics is not what I'm talking about.

[@dougyoung221]

Gotta love it.

[@MrArdytube]

“Some day if a country so gifted will suddenly experience a disaster that no one can explain...”. Like Covid perhaps

[@barrywhite9114]

@LowEnergyBoomer Right! kzbin.info/www/bejne/aqLal3tthrujjq8

[@barrywhite9114]

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[@joefoley1480]

that "Covid" is affecting the whole world if you haven't noticed

[@TheMyssT]

Like January 6, 2021

[@mindmesh7566]

COVID isn’t even close. True shared suffering.

[@mukesh_bombay]

if only Professor Zinn could see how far we've fallen

[@harsimarbhatia2927]

It makes me so sad. Right wing grifters and BlueAnon liberals will be the death of this country.

[@philgwellington6036]

It was a troubled time then! How long ago? What would he think nowadays? Cheech!

[@surreal6643]

"if only Professor Zinn could see how far we've fallen" Well, considering Zinn has been debunked hundreds of times from actual historians... good.

[@oldishandwoke-ish1181]

@@surreal6643 Actual historians such as?

[@surreal6643]

@@oldishandwoke-ish1181 Arthur Schlesinger , Michael Kammen, Michael Kazin, Sam Wineburg, Oscar Handlin, etc. etc.

[@dalic.zargham1240]

this man is another reason why, I as an Iranian love the american people. - Never, ever is too late to CHANGE: with kind regards to MIT from the good Ol' Vienna,.-)

[@wnklee6878]

This man is one in a million. That will never do.

[@dalic.zargham1240]

my pleasure. god bless america

[@91dodgespiritrt]

@@wnklee6878 That's ONE too many. Hopefully, Satan claims him back very soon.

[@raeliera]

Zinn is cancer to our nation.

[@kimyoung2748]

@@raeliera why would you say that?

[@franciscomunoz2222]

As a young man, I believed the bit about weapons of mass destruction. They even paraded "proof" at the UN-- by none other than Colin Powell. We need people like Mr. Zinn.

[@cheri238]

Mr. Zinn has been loved by millions, and we have other examples such as writers of history and independent journalists. ❤

[@31acruz]

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[@goranborjesson5593]

History has taught us that in time all empires fall

[@trumpetflowerII]

True, but the USA didn't last as long as the Greeks or Romans.

[@Lea-rb9nc]

Absolutely. This one is young but it's falling hard and fast. It was sold out by those who were supposed to "serve and protect."

[@Lea-rb9nc]

History also continues tto repeat itself.

[@millabasset1710]

@@Lea-rb9nc China won't have a reign, humans will be dead before 2100 even happens

[@goranborjesson5593]

@Thomas Tomei II in what way is USA great?

[@samcoffeen4762]

At 40:55 when Professor Zinn was talking about how Bush was being viewed as a departure from the system it immediately brought to mind the media discourse around trump

[@rickrosstheboss899]

Except Trump is a grifter bum

[@HunterX78]

Zinn books are the best to understand why USA thinks its owner of the world, first example was the war that stole half of Mexico. texas, Arizona, New Mexico, California

[@pitchforkpeasant6219]

Typical human arrogance that transcends all time. It will never end. The known, the unknown, and the unknowable

[@91dodgespiritrt]

Moron, please understand American History. The Mexicans wanted the US to help it fight for its independence against Spain. Many of them wanted to join the US. In fact, the Mexican government actually paid Americans to settle in the territory now known as Texas - south of the Rio Grande. .THE LAND WASN'T STOLEN AT ALL.

[@91dodgespiritrt]

Zinn is a "fake news" spreading lying bastard - just like the rest of his traitorous tribe of greedy perverts.

[@tanniknar]

You’re right. We should give it back to the Conquistadors to whom it rightfully belongs.

[@spinningorb]

@@91dodgespiritrt Your comment is ridiculous and ahistorical.

[@kimyoung2748]

What's the difference between God and a politician? God knows he is not a politician.

[@dickvarga6908]

it worries me that so many well educated, well connected people can be so ready to use violence and follow such an erratic leader. Not the first time in world history but i did not expect to see it in USA.

[@healthmiracles6379]

it just goes to show you that anything is possible even the overthrow of democracy

[@h.Freeman]

👋🏿 i did, the country was founded by psychopaths and enslaved millions of people for 400 years not to have been

[@2121beastmode]

@@h.Freeman that's a lie.

[@h.Freeman]

@@2121beastmode what's a lie? Slavery? Only a psychopath would enslave another human and all of the early presidents enslaved people. And not only did it hey enslave people but they brutalized them.

[@Badmanxl5]

@@2121beastmode it's not a lie he's telling the truth you just don't want to hear it.

[@duncescotus2342]

The Dresden bombing produced at least two shellshocked GI thinkers--Vonnegut and Zinn, and they demonstrate that there are two ways to deal with grotesque insanity that war makes apparent, further insanity, albeit cartoonishly softened for bestseller consumption a la Vonnegut, or a bitter sifting through rubble for something less ugly.

[@kzinful]

Dunce Scotus + Much better than the tripe you've spewed here.

[@haroldfloyd5518]

I didn’t find Vonnegut (and especially S5) to be softened in anyway. Vonnegut showed how empty and meaningless concepts like patriotism and justice really are.

[@duncescotus2342]

@@haroldfloyd5518 Fair enough, but sublimated by dark atheistic humor a la Mark Twain. Hopeless humor. Zinn, as a Jew, at least tried to find some ethical conclusions, and did a darn good job with "The People's History of the United States" in tracing the untold history of the losers. I'm a vet too, so I'm sympathetic. But I've seen the faithfulness of Jesus Christ, so I'm coming from what I think is a far superior perspective, the Christian one. But that's how I see it. It's not as though all of this war and stuff isn't foretold. Patriotism, not meaningless, only idolatrous. Justice, not meaningless, only hypocritical. Meaningless? Nothing that I can think of.

[@philgwellington6036]

Thankyou scoutus, for the information. Very worthwhile.

[@duncescotus2342]

@@philgwellington6036 Thank YOU for that thank you.

[@wallistag8888]

God protect children, drunkards and Americans, Bismarck once said.

[@maxheadrom3088]

It seems God got tired ... or his spent after taking care of Brazilians.

[@GlobalDrifter1000]

Only once?

[@MrSp0iler]

They dont even understand they are constitutional republic not democracy

[@Fugazinome]

Walli Stag He should have been more worried about Germany.

[@MrSp0iler]

@@Fugazinome He did, germans prospered and were strong. Until banks were forced to finance production instead of leeching off money in Germany and then ww1 and ww2 was started. Even today national socialists are demonized by animals that call themselves humans.

[@patrickcope6258]

"A beLIEf is not knowledge, Only truth is the way to gain knowledge" Plato

[@markanthony3275]

A person must believe the truth...there is no other way for anything to enter the human consciousness except they first BELIEVE that it's true. This btw is the foundation of Christianity ...Jesus said " I Am the way , The TRUTH and the Life", and those who have experienced his presence believe that he is THE TRUTH. All Truth is God's Truth .

[@Redactedlllllllllllll]

@@markanthony3275 damn, how are you a theist in 2021?

[@markanthony3275]

@@Redactedlllllllllllll Because I have an advantage over anyone who does not believe that Jesus was exactly who the Bible said he was...and that advantage is called prophecy . One aspect of the Bible's prophetic predictions describes how Israel will once again become a nation after it's total destruction in 70A.D. ...have you looked at a map of the middle east and seen a tiny nation called Israel ? Well it wasn't there before April 1948. Another description of what takes place has to do with the rise of "Global Consciousness" , this is the idea that people will have in their minds that they don't need God because they can all join together, solve their own problems and create their own reality ...and this is exactly what Zinn and others like him are trying to do right now .They are in rebellion against God's design for sexuality , God's design for family, God's design for a just and merciful society, and they will replace it with a counterfeit that will deceive everybody . The end result , the Bible says , is that God will judge the world for it's evil in turning against his designs , and over a half of the world's people will die through the judgements God sends upon them in a seven year period . Some of those judgements are , burning of a third of all trees , poisoning of drinking water , strange creatures that sting like scorpions , the sun darkened and not giving it's full light, the cessation of all wind , famine , economic collapse , people butchering each other in the streets...others eaten by wild animals as they try to flee the cities and hide in the countryside...100 pound hailstones falling . The Bible says that a slick , smooth talking world leader will arise , and will have miraculous powers so that people will actually worship him because he appears to have the answer to the world's problems . This world leader will be arrogant , and will force everyone to take his mark of ownership on their right hand or forehead, without which they will be prevented from participating in the economic system ( not allowed to buy or sell anything)...the Bible calls that world leader "the man of lawlessness" and " the man of sin" or " the anti-christ ". No doubt you've heard of this , but through pop-culture which doesn't explain who this person really is and how they will all be deceived by him. I call him "the final Hitler " because in many ways he will do exactly what Hitler did...including signing a peace treaty with Israel, and then attacking them and slaughtering half of them right in Israel. Now is the time that God is preparing America and the world for judgement. He allowed Donald Trump to be elected so that the enemies of God would become enraged and start putting in place the evil that they will be judged for. Joe Biden is preparing America and the world for that judgement by continually supporting everything that is ungodly , abortion, LGBT sexuality , giving the "weeds" in society the power to accuse "the vegetables" of corrupting the garden. Judgement is coming, the signs are all there.

[@mathman43]

@@Redactedlllllllllllll Being an atheist requires more faith than being a theist. St. Anselm and others gave several proofs for the existence of God. Where is your proof that there isn't a God?

[@mathman43]

@Michael Hayes I can prove that the square root of 2 isn't a rational number. Show me a proof that God doesn't exist. The burden of proof can work this. Did you have a strong or weak father?

[@sufficientlyoldskool]

The guy at the beginning may be going bald but he's going to make DAMN sure the hair he has left is _luscious_

[@Juan-ud3if]

The Best and Greatest Humans are those that Look at Themselves Honestly in the Mirror and Know Who and What they Really are. Their Faults, their Past and Present, and Strive to be Good.

[@chucklattanzio2857]

Wonderful lecture. tThank you Howard Zinn. You are missed.

[@alexandrepereira3902]

I wish I had been smart enough to have attended such a prestigious institutions... where men like this one speak... thank God for internet...

[@91dodgespiritrt]

It's interesting to note that those criticizing "The United States" are those pieces of trash who are "inferior" to - and who do not look like - the patriotic "exceptional" Anglo Christian founding fathers that founded built and created "The United States".

[@patbranigan6501]

If you understand this you were smart enough but just did not have the opportunity. And that is why so many who are brilliant are wasted by our society.

[@kirstinstrand6292]

Most students who graduated "prestigious" schools are those Brain Washed by Narcissistic parents. Just Cognitive Dissonance that their offspring are not bright enough to figure out.

[@boazklachkin4177]

learn some grammar

[@91dodgespiritrt]

@Titus Tiger The world according to my view. please call them and let them know about my posts. HA, HA

[@Hollis_has_questions]

When a deity is the source of governmental power, then anything can be both justified and justifiable. This is, to paraphrase Jane Austen, a truth universally acknowledged, and acted upon.

[@mrscavayeah7453]

Deity is not the source of governmental power. Deity is the source of the rights that the gov has no business in. The gov caused the problems we face by taking over and obliterating community and family.

[@Hollis_has_questions]

@@mrscavayeah7453 Not true. The First Amendment delineates the rights, held by citizens, in which the government has no business - the “THEY shalt nots” of the Bill of Rights, “they” being the government. Popular myth would have it that ours is a government founded upon the myth of judeochristian values - the “judeo” part being there as a token nod - whereas in reality the American government was set up to be secular in nature. Community and family have both got in the condition they’re in because of the control that the strictures of religion - the “THOU shalt nots” - place upon relationships between and among people in those communities and families. The process of “Othering” is totally within the sphere of commands supposedly issued by deity through “holy” writ - of dubious supernatural construct - not the rights, instituted among Men, actually delineated by our founding instruction manual - an actual document.

[@surreal6643]

@@Hollis_has_questions "Not true. The First Amendment delineates the rights, held by citizens, in which the government has no business - the “THEY shalt nots” of the Bill of Rights, “they” being the government." True. "Popular myth would have it that ours is a government founded upon the myth of judeochristian values - the “judeo” part being there as a token nod - whereas in reality the American government was set up to be secular in nature." Still with you. "Community and family have both got in the condition they’re in because of the control that the strictures of religion - the “THOU shalt nots” - place upon relationships between and among people in those communities and families." Here is where you lost me. The control and structures of religion have no bearing on family values. The entire structure of almost all religion is a church. A church is part of a community... not a family. So now you have to prove that Judeo-Christian values caused the problem of the community... which you did NOT do. You just generalized that it happened without stating a reason of why you believe that. "The process of “Othering” is totally within the sphere of commands supposedly issued by deity through “holy” writ - of dubious supernatural construct - not the rights, instituted among Men, actually delineated by our founding instruction manual - an actual document."" Othering is again a community thing which has nothing to do with family... which also has nothing to do with the post of which you are replying. It's just static sounds to confuse the argument that the government did indeed cause the problems by obliterating community and family by trying to state that "othering" is a thing of holy writ... which it was a human condition... not a religious condition.

[@mikimeadows]

If the state is the sorce of your rights then the state can take them away. People who emphasize your rights come from God emphasize that they are yours and cannot be taken away.

[@Hollis_has_questions]

@@mikimeadows … Except by gods, through the mouths of those who claim to speak for the deities.

[@scbamboo204]

His history of this country should be required reading before graduation into society.

[@elizdonovan5650]

Another great American myth: That the U.S. can’t afford healthcare similar to Canada. 🌲🌝☘️

[@mc-lb9dk]

not a myth, they proof it day after day. Not only Canada but ALL civilized countries

[@andrewtanczyk4009]

@@mc-lb9dk yep

[@chaserofthelight484]

There’s like 33 developed countries and all but the US and maybe one more who doesn’t have medical for their citizens. Israel has medical, and college, plus state funded abortion (no one says anything about that). We gave them over $9 billion from January of last year to January of this year. We can give 100’s of billions to corporations, some failing because of bad business practices, and a tax cut down to 21% for the wealthy and corporations. There was almost 100 companies who had a 0% tax rate or below in 2020. They’re cutting all the social programs and would love to cut Social Security or do away with it all together. Next we have a military budget as much as the next 10 countries, we’re also $21 trillion in debt and our Federal Reserve is printing trillions. So with all this, it’s not a myth.

[@Cookie-ri9pz]

Healthcare in the US is for profit not a human right. Greed in my country is on steroids. It will be our downfall. Brought down by 1% of some greedy elites.

[@mc-lb9dk]

@@Cookie-ri9pz US = human greed. not only healthcare. the latter is just internal greed. The global greed of the usa is way bigger.

[@larrysmith2636]

Whatever the religious, economic, social ism, the human condition remains the same. Have a nice day.

[@chairde]

American exceptionalism is a European-born critique of the United States of America that the country sees its history as inherently different from that of other nations,[2] stemming from its emergence from the American Revolution, becoming what the political scientist Seymour Martin Lipset called "the first new nation"[3] and developing a uniquely American ideology, "Americanism", based on liberty, equality before the law, individual responsibility, republicanism, representative democracy, and laissez-faire economics. This ideology itself is often referred to as "American exceptionalism."[4] Second is the idea that America has a unique mission to transform the world[according to whom?]. President Abraham Lincoln stated in the Gettysburg address (1863) during the American Civil War, in reference to the preservation of the United States itself, Americans have a duty to ensure, "government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth." Third is the sense that America's history and its mission give it a superiority over other nations.[citation needed] The theory of the exceptionalism of the U.S. has developed over time and can be traced to many sources. French political scientist and historian Alexis de Tocqueville was the first writer to describe the country as "exceptional" in 1831 and 1840.[5] The actual phrase "American exceptionalism" was originally coined by the Soviet leader Joseph Stalin in 1929 as a critique of a revisionist faction of American communists that argued that the American political climate was unique and made it an 'exception' to certain elements of Marxist theory.[6] U.S. president Ronald Reagan is often credited with having crystallized that ideology in recent decades.[6] Political scientist Eldon Eisenach argues that American exceptionalism in the 21st century has come under attack from the postmodern left as a reactionary myth: "The absence of shared purpose is ratified in the larger sphere of liberal-progressive public philosophy. [...] Beginning with the assumption of American exceptionalism as a reactionary myth".[7]

[@robertnewell4054]

Is the lack of citation of Manifest Destiny an accidental oversight or it’s not factored in the equation?

[@averagecitizen8491]

American Exceptionalism is alive and well. Unless you believe in the sickening ideologies of marxism progressivism socialism and communism. All have proven not to work. Individual liberties and responsibility not the collective

[@Hollis_has_questions]

How To Distinguish a Warning Shot From a Shot? - the warning shot is the one that misses; there may or may not be some pause thereafter.

[@craigp497]

nobody owns anything in life, including land. we only use things, so long as we can protect it from others.

[@sasjahuntelaar5755]

That's sir is the thinking of a thief.

[@pietroaretino6390]

It's a pity we can't just all get along and help one another. I feel like that would actually be easier than killing each other and being assholes.

[@91dodgespiritrt]

@@sasjahuntelaar5755 And yours is the brainwashed thinking of a leftist victim who can't think for herself.

[@craigp497]

@Bok Choy so what your saying is that the "police" give you the right of ownership???....hahaha

[@craigp497]

@Bok Choy maybe you should read what i said again then 🧐

[@bijipop]

This lecture is timeless - given how prescient it is today with the Ukraine/Russian proxy war. Zinn is brilliant!

[@carlosdelatorre5498]

Yes, he is.

[@leftyshawenuph4026]

He said the US refuses to give up landmines. The US refuses to give up landmines only in the Korean DMZ. The only thing keeping North Korean soldiers from walking into South Korea are about 37,000 troops and about a million landmines. I wonder what else he gets wrong...

[@hitreset0291]

Government: "God help us we can achieve this" Everyone: "oh boy we are about to be screwed over again".

[@molliestanton2869]

I believe the US has had landmines in other countries. There is an international organization dedicated to providing prosthetic limbs for current victims, as the landmines still blow up little childrens' legs. I just looked it up, very unfortunately, the US was not a signatory on the mine ban treaty of 1997. That says something about its probable continued use by the US.

[@leftyshawenuph4026]

@@molliestanton2869 Korean DMZ is where the US refuses to give up landmines, regardless of what you "believe". "The US said that it will abide by the terms of the [Ottawa] Treaty, except for landmines on the Korean Peninsula."(Quoted from Wikipedia).

[@bleachdemon7321]

A lot more than his sycophants would admit.

[@jimluebke3869]

You're right about teaching the real history of the US and Mexico. We should probably teach about the colonial and Napoleonic times, when Mexico was considerably richer and more militarily powerful than the US.

[@MelaninMagdalene]

Animator&Fidd1er Europe taught the world racism and civilization.

[@jimluebke3869]

@@MelaninMagdalene The world knew about racism before. Civilization too, in many places, although Western civilization has distinct advantages over other civilizations, as they demonstrated very effectively through the 19th century.

[@MelaninMagdalene]

Jim Luebke Racism is written in to early European philosophy and science.

[@jimluebke3869]

@@MelaninMagdalene Show me a society that *didn't* have racism. Or slavery. You can't. Then show me a society -- aside from Europeans -- that tried (and succeeded) to get rid of slavery, and is working to get rid of racism. You can't.

[@jimluebke3869]

@@MelaninMagdalene Also, racism is explicitly condemned by St. Paul. When Western Civilization pays close enough attention to its Christian foundations, there's no better moral and humane system.

[@Kid_Ikaris]

Powerful words, especially when he gave this speech. We should try our best to never forget the travesties of the war on terror.

[@pitchforkpeasant6219]

Which will never end

[@91dodgespiritrt]

@@pitchforkpeasant6219 For as long as Is-fake Israel exists.

[@surreal6643]

@@91dodgespiritrt "For as long as Is-fake Israel exists." Israel existed thousands of years before Palestine was even a thought. If you believe Indians should be the only population of America, then you should believe in Israel.

[@liegesaboya8265]

@@surreal6643 Indians should be the only populations of both north and south America . As for Israel ,Muslins and Jews were living side by side very well for hundreds of years until the creation of the sionism movement , in the wave of the European colonization of Africa and the Middle East , that brought huge suffering till now for all the native population .

[@surreal6643]

@@liegesaboya8265 "Muslins and Jews were living side by side very well for hundreds of years until the creation of the sionism movement , in the wave of the European colonization of Africa and the Middle East , that brought huge suffering till now for all the native population ." False. Islam was founded in 610 AD. In 624, Mohammed started attacking and by 632 in which they have conquered the bulk of western Arabia and Palestine. Jews could not own weapons, they could not ride on horseback, they couldn't build buildings, and had to bow to their muslim masters when they paid their taxes. The entire thing you wrote was false. 100% verifiably false. Which means you lied. Willingly. If you believe "Indians should be the only populations of both north and south America ." Then that means Muslims should never attack Israel and should leave Israel as it was called Israel 10,000 years before Muslim was a religion.

[@chucklattanzio2857]

Truth finally arrives

[@exjazzer]

Thank you!

[@geofromnj7377]

When Winthrop used the phrase "city on a hill", he was telling his followers that they must behave morally at all times and live up to their moral standards because the world was watching and could see the colony as clearly as if it were a city on a hill. He did not say that it was a shining city on a hill. He merely said that everyone in England was watching.

[@HarrySmith-hr2iv]

General Winthrop led a group of Puritans and Pilgrim Fathers who wished to escape persecution in the UK. In the UK. The Anglican Church ruled and it insisted Gods representative on Planet Earth was the King or Queen of England. The Church was debauched and immoral and excessively taxed everybody to pay for their lifestyle. General Winthrop rejected this. Equally objectionable was The Catholic Church which taught Papal Infallibility and the final and absolute authority of the Pope in Rome. Greetings from UK.

[@rockinray6197]

What was Cotton Mathers about? The gospel of divine enlightenment? Something like it ..found in wikipedia 'secularism is the realization, of the Kingdom of God on Earth' .. Whoa ...

[@scotthullinger9955]

The idiots who mention "bone spurs" are also the same idiots who supposedly abhor war. They can't can't have it both ways. But at least they can always try. HA!

[@Patriot11111]

this globalist cares nothing about truth

[@moesiatestecles1975]

@@Patriot11111 Your state is ruled by corporate globalists. Or do you call them "job creators"?

[@victormonreale9217]

History is the examination of sorrows.

[@patriceortovent6451]

Well said. As far as l am concerned having fought all my life as a Marxist left from Europe, l came to the conclusion that history is the detailing of the dirty washing of mankind. No detergent can clean the blood stain on every page on the history of mankind.

[@palmpalm5131]

True, history is full of sorrow.. if only we can learn from history to prevent further sorrow.

[@ruthpurkey5682]

@@patriceortovent6451 The hundreds of millions killed by marxist regimes would find your reference to history's "dirty washing" ironic.

[@ruthpurkey5682]

@henk Marx's bull schiff "philosophy" has inspired regimes responsible for the murder of millions.

[@devondevon4366]

22:24 "not all historians will admit the things they tell you may not be true

[@boazklachkin4177]

including the sounds spouted by this prolific atonal composer of Operas containing disharmonious contrapuntal dissonance and tasteless staging.

[@jamiebrown8435]

@@boazklachkin4177 Cap'n Turbot vibes,..

[@surreal6643]

He said that because he knows he was lying.

[@williamoverton7775]

Everyone knows if God tells you to fight someone they are always bigger than you.

[@Redactedlllllllllllll]

News flash, "God" doesn't talk to anyone.

[@LukeMcGuireoides]

Given the power that has been attained by the Christian Right in the US they would be hard pressed to find anyone bigger to fight

[@ThaTurdBurglar]

History, we are in it now!!!

[@ShahidKhan-ke8fe]

The thing that foreigners (especially from Western countries) to America notice immediately is the size of its supermarkets. It's impressive. But I'm pretty sure none of them would trade it for their universal health care.

[@breadfan1071]

As if it is totally impossible to have both? or more for that matter.

[@ShahidKhan-ke8fe]

@@breadfan1071 we don't need supermarkets that big in England. It would be a waste of space; there just aren't enough people in the country.

[@lizgichora6472]

Thank you for a compelling lecture, " My country men are mankind", the BEST of HUMANITY.

[@31acruz]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/mJncipR8q6p_l7c

[@exjazzer]

This just begins a journey down the rabbit hole.

[@gloriaalexander3448]

This is major important information and should be taught in all schools from junior high through college. I know I was not impressed with missing information in college. This should be requried reading. i believe this entire series should be offfered in junior high and high schools as well a teaching civics from first grade up!

[@oldspammer]

I just google searched Howard Zinn leftist Articles come up explaining the HUGE failures of socialism of the 1900s that saw many tens of millions of innocent souls eliminated. The terror and carnage of this entire saga for the USSR was outlined variously by aleksandr solzhenitsyn gulag archipelago, then later explaining who was the root cause of such horrors.

[@martinko4086]

Gloria Alexander, ..... ** All this bullshit was taught in schools cross the socialist countries ***. Meanwhile many of these socialist countries realized BIG MISTAKE , finished with socialism , installed capitalism and many of these countries are members of NATO now .

[@GalacticNovaOverlord]

@@oldspammer ahh found the state department bot here

[@oldspammer]

@@GalacticNovaOverlord You have found NOTHING of titanic interest. I am from Canada. About 15 years ago I was a lefty. I wanted to learn who invented and imposed income taxes among other things. I watched a series of informative videos that explained all kinds of the multiple reasons requiring taxation. The key reasons were that the country leaders who authorized the colonization of so called heathen lands treated the entire situation as a huge profit making investment scheme upon which they imposed a loans and interest charging as the structure for it all. After the late 1700s US revolutionary war, the UK king in the Paris peace treaty set forth all of the terms where he would not be as hands on with the leadership, but the return on investment the king still expected it as usual to keep rolling into his coffers. I think that the outstanding debt may have been sold a couple of times since that time, but the compounded interest on that investment still remains ongoing for whoever last made the debt purchase. It turns out that the debt grows exponentially fast and without bound not only due to deficits where collected taxes are insufficient to pay for government services plus debt servicing interest payments, even more debt is issued by way of government bonds and Treasury Notes lumped into the total debt principal. The objective to have central banking imposed originates from international bankers based out of Europe who also sponsored leftism including more recently Marxism as explained in their manifesto, starting several centuries ago or perhaps even before that. These guys endorse the philosopher Hegel's method of building up then burning down society via periodic or iterative revolutions and the making of laws that criminals do not obey, and after many cycles Utopia shall result. Trouble is that Utopia literally means No Where. And that the outcome is a delusional pipe dream. The entire thing is a money making scam for royalty of various kinds. This can be proven with a mental exercise involving the entire economy starting out as only $1 borrowed into existence centuries ago. While the economy remains only $1 in circulation, the debt principal owing has grown hugely. The entire economy of currency in circulation of $1 cannot repay the owing debt principal similar to how all Western nations have been similarly tricked. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jZ3Oe6t8Z7iAb9k Dean Stockwell hosts Phenomenon - The Lost Archives - Monopoly Men - The Federal Reserve System When I looked this up, Wikipedia said that Dean Stockwell died November 2021 or so at age 85 of natural causes in New Zealand.

[@FardtilUshid]

The school day starts with worshipping the flag and then conditions you to the work week.

[@plantman5126]

"I read some Howard Zinn now I'm always depressed" - NOFX

[@Hanfgurkenhasser]

Don't watch any of Chris Hedges' speeches then. He is on a whole other level of Doomsaying.

[@plantman5126]

@@Hanfgurkenhasser iI's a song quotation from the band NOFX

[@adrijan6510]

@PostHawk we believe it cuz our brains are opened. Unlike you that have been brainwashed by the same thing we criticize

[@nunyabidnis3815]

@PostHawk ...and then we did the same shit. The idea of, 'X deserved bad things to happen by us, because they did bad things, too...' is the same justification anyone could use to do bad things to us, then. Right? Yet, even a critique of the bad we do is what, beyond the pale? How... just how.

[@nunyabidnis3815]

@PostHawk While the west came to end it's slavery, it was also a massive national industry. Characterizing it's role in slavery as irrelevant, forgivable, understandable is every bit as wrong. I think maybe some wires are getting crossed.. because calling the west out on it's practices of slavery and later apartheid, or even how that impacts the national infrastructure today, is not saying they 'started it' or were the only ones at fault.

[@GETJUSTICE4U]

Why do tyrannical rulers invoke God to justify their tyranny? Clue: Simple* people won't argue with God. *Simple does not mean stupid.

[@Patriot11111]

what "tyrannical ruler" are you talking

[@GETJUSTICE4U]

@@Patriot11111 All those running plutocratic regimes that use their wealth and military power to subjugate foreign peoples and pillage the wealth of their nations and surreptitiously push their own ordinary peoples into survitude. However, the question (if its not rhetorical) suggests you *may* not have the background and knowledge to understand the succinct answer.

[@Patriot11111]

@@GETJUSTICE4U what are you babbling about?

[@GETJUSTICE4U]

@@Patriot11111 I thought so. Hopefully you will not know for a long time because, as they say "ignorance is bliss". Educate yourself.

[@Patriot11111]

@@GETJUSTICE4U amusing

[@jasonwilson9212]

I have utmost respect for Zinn-Religion is not the problem. False religion that worships an imaginary deity that adores exploitation is the problem and it’s what the historical figure Christ took the most firm stand against.

[@luisa.melendezalbizu4459]

Howard Zinn was one of the greatest intellectuals of the US of the last Century. He is missed.

[@muzakaz]

You need to actually go and study history. This human is intellectual fraud.

[@luisa.melendezalbizu4459]

@@muzakaz From your dumb comment it is obvious that you are either super ignorant, or you depend or work for the Establishment, the Ind/Military Complex, or the Intelligence Services. Which one is it?

[@deborahdean8867]

Ha! This guy is deluded and acts like he hasnt read much history. He's sick. He's like an abusive husband always putting down the wife. You listen to him telling how pathetic you are and drink it in, you need counseling for your self esteem

[@chadebrownnyc]

FYI, Zinn talk begins at 6:25 minute mark

[@unggrabb]

Brilliant Man. His website has a lot of excellent documents from which to learn. Religion poisons everything. Hitchins was so spot on

[@ronaldelliott4373]

Yes he was, wasn’t he!

[@zabrak999]

*tips fedora*

[@vikaspanchal8015]

Whats his web site domain i want learn more 🙏

[@nickburak7518]

I have to respectfully disagree with you on your point of religion. While there are over 30,000 legal 'religions' in the US, from the questionable Spaghetti Hats to the sublime Hare Krishnas, few can be considered as authentic. Of those perhaps there is but a sliver of genuine participants that actually follow the precepts sincerely as set out by its founder. They do not make their religion look bad. But it does not mean that the religion is poisonous - its those who are ignorant of the precepts the religion holds. We live in dark and confusing timez. Yet we choose to be blind, deaf and dumb to the coldness in our hearts. Religion is not to be blamed, it is the fool who cares not to take an honest look at himself and try to purify his existence, preferring to cast stone on others. Jesus understands this as does any saintly soul - of which there are many more than anyone can ever imagine. Remember that God is the founder of actual religion, and he is all-perfect. But if one doesn't believe in God, Krishna, then what purity can that person ever bring to this world? And if one wants to challenge the reality of God, then speculation that He doesn't exist is all they have. So what such non believer is unwittingly saying is that man is the poison, not religion. KZbin and indeed the world is full of such characters who fail to see the truth for want of their own opinion. Why is it a surprise to anyone that it has always been mankind that is full of poison and confusion, despite being so capable of love and truthfulness?

[@unggrabb]

@@nickburak7518 no proof of any nagic man in the skye, none. Religion encourages genocide, slavery, supression of women and gay people and sexual mutilation of children. Pure evil shit.

[@kylegellner8687]

Was Dr. Zinn chair of the history and social sciences department at Superman College, or Spellman College...?

[@dwarfsid]

6:35 Program begins.

[@seanvassar1117]

"You can't be neutral on a moving train" Howard Zinn One of my favorite quotes

[@SubvertTheState]

So that's where System of a Down got that line...

[@laniefeleski7288]

I was expecting him to be much more knowledgeable. E.G., the founding fathers believe in natural law, which states that men were imbued by God with unalienable rights. How did Howard Zinn, an American Historian, not know this basic fact?

[@williamwhitten7820]

@@laniefeleski7288 Because Howard Zinn was a Communist propagandist who indoctrinated a large portion of American youth during his era of disinformation. A precursor to the 1619 Project insanity, and the Woke Critical Race Theory blather and the people who don't even know what a woman is anymore. Like the new Supreme Court Justice... *God save America from these insane traitors!*

[@laniefeleski7288]

@@tombash4329 many of them did believe it. They wrote about the moral conflict in their journals. Slavery was tradition since mankind's beginning. They were the first ones to end it. So ill informed.

[@laniefeleski7288]

@@tombash4329 All of those are factual statements. lol. Are you okay?

[@rillikinmcspliffelkinney3811]

How do you distinguish a warning shot from a shot? Let me guess one of them hits you and the other one misses.

[@CandysFavorites]

You need manners.

[@rillikinmcspliffelkinney3811]

@@CandysFavorites Elaborate pls. Are you Ms. Manners 2.0 , the new and improved patriarchy slayer?

[@davidauerbach2626]

If you can only point the bad ,how do we know the good ?

[@fromthepeanutgallery1084]

Yes we are No.1. No. 1 in Coronavirus. No.1. in Coronavirus deaths.

[@MiroslawHorbal]

And you're also responsible for getting a vaccine out in 9 months while the rest of the world twiddles their thumbs. Coming from someone who lives in Europe and is super greatful for the efforts put in by your government to rapidly develop a vaccine with the private sector.

[@fromthepeanutgallery1084]

@@MiroslawHorbal I would rather wait for a real vaccine from Europe than a fake one here in the U.S.

[@MiroslawHorbal]

@@fromthepeanutgallery1084 you've been watching too much propaganda bud. Lighten up. We love America and all the innovation they foster here in Europe.

[@fromthepeanutgallery1084]

​@@MiroslawHorbal Innovation at great cost, yes!

[@MiroslawHorbal]

​@@fromthepeanutgallery1084 You're only looking at one metric: deaths from covid, while ignoring all other metrics on human quality of life. Take the blinders off and take a wholistic perspective. The US has saved the rest of the world due to their focus on innovation. Rather than distributing the pie equally, you grow a bigger pie, via innovation. Without exceptional innovation in America, we wouldn't have computers to have this virtual argument over the internet, which was also invented in America. You wouldn't have the hundreds of thousands of jobs that innovation has created around the world. You wouldn't have easy access to FREE EDUCATION due to the innovation that came from american institutions that created online learning platforms. You wouldn't have youtube to watch videos on. You wouldn't have google search to discover information quickly. You wouldn't have deep knowledge of the inner workings of atoms. You wouldn't have technology that will one day send us to explore the stars.

[@shelleylabar6310]

Who in our world could actually "Replace" Howard Zinn? So Sad.

[@devondevon4366]

19:32 He said, 'A lot of Americans don't know that Texas was part of Mexico that California was part of Mexico that why they have these Spanish name'. I didn't know that 10 US states (either all of or part of those states) were once part of Mexico. Also, the area of Mexico today (1,972,550 sq km) is less than half of what it was in 1821 (4,925,282 sq km) or just 40% of what the area of Mexico used to be. In other words, the area of the land in the US of what used to be part of Mexico is greater than the area of Mexico is right now. These states are California, Nevada, Arizona, Utah, Texas, Colorado, New Mexico, Wyoming, Kansas, and Oklahoma.

[@4everu984]

Remember the Alamo!

[@BadDogHats]

texas was also an independent republic before it became a part of the USA...

[@dragonfly1929]

A LOT??GOOD TO KNOW..MOST AMERICANS DO NOT WANT TO KNOW.

[@Etatdesiege1979]

It’s hard for me to believe that the average American doesn’t know this. But then I think about how many of them think that the US took Berlin or that that defeated the Nazis by themselves, I definitely believe is not only possible but that is most likely probable.

[@rhonda6791]

@@dragonfly1929 Most Americans don’t want to know just about everything which is why they’re in the physically economically and morally disasterous state they’re in.

[@rustyyb8450]

Concerning American Indian Empires. A good read is: The Comanche Empire, by Pekka Hämäläinen Lots of parallels to The Mongol Empire.

[@GmdElectric]

Finally, we meet Christopher Walken's father!

[@dreadpirateroberts6337]

Genius 🤣

[@danielmaggs1048]

Severely underrated comment

[@Tommah1000]

😂 LOL,Bravo!

[@CandysFavorites]

Grow up.

[@followerofjulian1652]

I want to see "The Myth of *MIT* Exceptionalism"! 🤣🤣🤣

[@rayjr62]

Look no further than Silicon Valley.

[@martinarreguy7789]

Indeed the truth about its connection to Jeffery Epstein's island, and all of it's staffs connections to it. Well done and good form.

[@jamesdigiorgio9907]

@@martinarreguy7789 No gfalAPP pop Tv No puedo hacer la vida al Me

[@jamesdigiorgio9907]

@@martinarreguy7789 BM. Go to do go do full DJ FL cm FB go go JD DJ go DJ JD No no Si quieres te lo puedo No. Z

[@martinarreguy7789]

Hermano, no le intiendo? What are you saying?

[@williamhbonney1328]

These people that speak of 911 like we dont all know what it was about, cui bono?

[@ellenbates5110]

Good to know!

[@phillipphil1615]

A lot of baseless attacks in the comments. Zinn's point in underlining the danger in invoking God as the source of governmental power is very relevant. In the USA or elsewhere.

[@elaine1034]

They do that to sucker in Christians, and can put the blame God for instructing them to do evil.

[@elaine1034]

@@HarryF-tz5fo Four years? Both sides are psychopathic. The right did 911.

[@jasondelvaux3036]

As I'm listening to this, I also happen to be in the middle of "A People's History of the United States." It's so weird to hear him talking about stuff I just read. His book should be required reading for every citizen of this country.

[@cattycorner8]

It is Communist and anti-American.

[@rillikinmcspliffelkinney3811]

If you want a one sided approach to history you're in luck.

[@The_Burning_Sensation]

It's a fraud. He filled it with fabricated bullshit designed to make people hate this country, because he was a communist.

[@cattycorner8]

@@The_Burning_Sensation You got that right, bro

[@molliestanton2869]

@@rillikinmcspliffelkinney3811 it's a necessary side--and missing in too many places.

[@brianwheeldon4643]

It sounds as though Howard is talking about New Zealand. I've found the lack of honesty of the population of a place is primarily caused by a great insecurity and inferiority complex. This was Aotearoa New Zealand and to a large extent is still present but morphing to something else. I would go further in that the morphing process involves much of Aotearoa's population burying their heads (deep) in the sand. It's now preventing the country from taking practical steps to address the climate chaos and ecosystem collapse in New Zealand. btw check out "How to Hide An Empire" by Daniel Immerwahr for background reading on all Howard talks about. Thank you Howard Zinn a valuable talk

[@Patriot11111]

global cooling? global warming? climate change? now climate chaos? what hoax is next?

[@Patriot11111]

@@SEAQUEST-R good hope it stays there

[@ranter7100]

Right on the money about New Zealanders they have about as much idea as alot of Trump / Biden supporters or half the population of America. I am one by the way been one for 60 years. "I've found the lack of honesty of the population of a place is primarily caused by a great insecurity and inferiority complex." We may separate here i feel. You could just as easily say "I've found the lack of honesty of the population of a place is primarily caused by............ ignorant blind flag waving patriotism.

[@cynthiaennis3107]

@MIT Video Productions SPELMAN COLLEGE! Not Superman College! I hope that’s an autocorrect mistake! 😂

[@oaktowndaddyg]

I served as a medical corpsman un Vietnam (31 May 1967 - 31 May 1968), so though I wasn't a grunt, that is, actually fight, I did witness the harsh and brutal realities of war on the wounded grunts and unforeseen consequences of this messianic mission to stop the communists. Of course, the war was a humiliating defeat for the American elites and war hawks, and a tectonic shift in world history, Noam Chomsky compared the defeat of American forces in Vietnam to the battle for Stalingrad in the Second World War when the Russians reversed the invasion of the German Army and turned the tide in the war. We have never recovered from our defeat in the Vietnam, though we should have seen the writing on the wall, and again after the 9/11 attacks the elites made the same mistakes in the war on terror. Now we live in an Orwellian era of meaningless and endless wars which just confirms how much the elites are still trapped within this illusion of American exceptionalism.

[@oaktowndaddyg]

@James Registe Actually, there were nationalists who joined the National Liberation Front along with the communists. Just pick up and read Halbertam's "The Best and the Brightest," or Karnow's "Vietnam: A History" or even Chomsky's "American Power and the New Mandarin." All are acknowledged classics on the war and written from various ideological points of view. You're entitled to your opinion, James, but you aren't entitled to overlook historical facts. Which makes this reply even more partisan and specious since you don't even know basic historical facts about the war, and then which is even sadder, your reply was highlighted and that person doesn't know some basic facts about the war. As John Adams once observed, "Facts are stubborn things." And cool it with the all caps reply and exclamation point at the end of the sentence. You look even more foolish, uninformed and pretentious.

[@buzifalus]

When will you Americans ever learn that the real communists/enemies reside at home ? you never dare to deal with things on time and on place and just dragging along. With great power comes great responsibility. Which you have none

[@FardtilUshid]

My dad was a chopper gunner, FO, around the same time. I appreciate your comment. What do you think is next for the US? I haven't read the end of 1984 yet, so idk how it ends for the Party.

[@oaktowndaddyg]

@@FardtilUshid Your dad had it a lot worse than I did being at a base hospital. I was in the rear with the gear. Sadly at the end of 1984, Winston Smith is a broken man after being tortured by Big Brother and after his release he sits listless at a table on the terrace at a cafe.

[@jimluebke3869]

Resistance didn't end the British Empire. Bankruptcy did.

[@gfarrell80]

Just like it will for the US Empire.

[@jimluebke3869]

@@gfarrell80 It took a couple of world wars and complete domestic economic devastation to get the British down. If the wars get that bad these days, I'm not hopeful that the rest of the world will be in any shape to react, either to celebrate or mourn.

[@abovethefog1016]

Ridicule ends all leaders, and all empires. The moment that pinpoints the fall of the British Empire can be pinpointed to the Suez Canal Crisis in 1956. London assumed Washington would back them for the sake of their Israeli alliance and to expose the muslim brotherhood nationalisation of the main strategic asset of the Empire (The Suez Canal). This islamic "attack" was a sort of English 9/11, and it was at the height of the Cold War with the Soviets. From this point forward, The Empire went into military and economic decline, eagerly assisted at every opportunity by a cohort of marxist infiltraitors in The House Of Commons and elsewhere through the Empire itself. The playbook was so successful marxists in the USA made similar infiltration over the following decades and this peaked in 2008 with the election of Obama...

[@gfarrell80]

@@abovethefog1016 British Empire falls in 1956? That is pretty optimistic. The torch of empire IMHO was handed off from the British to the Americans in 1918. Cracks were showing in the British Empire well before 1956. Heck, India went independent in 1947.

[@jimluebke3869]

@@abovethefog1016 There was a Roman senator, whose name escapes me at the moment, who made a name for himself making sarcastic speeches at one or other of the Julian line of emperors, after it became illegal to directly criticize the Princeps. He was executed. For the life of me, I can't remember his name.

[@joecaner]

Howard Zinn was a global treasure. It is good that we still have his books and lectures.

[@jdenmark1287]

Why is he a global treasure? I am glad we still have his books as evidence of his poor scholarship, and his propaganda approach to history.

[@joecaner]

@@jdenmark1287 "History is a set of lies that people have agreed upon," Napoleon

[@jdenmark1287]

@@joecaner post modern relativism is so yesterday.

[@joecaner]

@@jdenmark1287 And "propaganda" is a pejorative often employed by sycophants of an existing order to dismiss and minimize opponents who do not support their particular narrative.

[@borisbadenov651]

@@joecaner kzbin.info/www/bejne/mJncipR8q6p_l7c

[@adrienpartier7207]

For an expanded and more thorough discussion on the history of US imperialism and a deconstruction of such concepts as terrorism, American exceptionalism or the Cold War, see Robert Buzzanco's lecture series "war, globalization and terror"

[@felixrabe]

I really liked the questions at the end, especially starting 1:17:12.

[@TrggrWarning]

Brits were “forced” to? They modernized the world not once did he mention US being Israel’s proxy attack dog used and abused.

[@swetasingh8235]

I think it’s about selling the idea of exceptionalism. When there is no rational ....

[@emhu2594]

The US is exceptional...in military spending, medical bankruptcies, obesity, and COVID deaths.

[@otto3619]

@Em Hu in worldwide surveillance, in covertly orchestrating coups (see Latin America, including Bolivia 2019), in imprisoning it's own population etc.

[@davidpaz9389]

@@otto3619 But now the corrupt system has a conscience. It wants to make sure everyone gets a Covid-19 injection. By mandate, if necessary. The corrupt system may have orchestrated coups, assassinations, etc but it genuinely cares about your personal well being.

[@jasonfirewalker3595]

Grew up 60 miles from Boston. All news to me. I inferred from context in boy scouts.

[@thespartan8476]

There isn't really that many Americans that I could really admire or respect. But, I really enjoyed listening to Howard Zinn, indeed. I also really like his books. And I've noticed Americans call the American Empire. American foreign policy?! or American Exceptionalism?! I've also noticed how the Americans use the English words and than change the meaning of that word. Americans also make words up, as they go along. I need subtitles to understand American movies and TV. And people would need a psychiatrist to understand American and British culture. And no-way that's ever going to happen, period. Thank you, Mr Howard Zinn, indeed.

[@kevtherev8194]

Thanks from TAIWAN

[@kseniahoroshenkova2614]

Hearing that "we like to think that before Bush things were okay" in 2020...

[@TheBalterok]

Америка была совсем другой ещё при Рейгане.

[@kirstinstrand6292]

Yes, but we were unaware that a new plan had been formulated! They got an idiot to sell and implement. Carl Rove and Dick Cheney provided that administration with the Brains to make it occur.

[@BRKJNH1929238]

This is an awesome testimony as to the unrestrained and damaging influence of the principle of American Exceptionalism in the modern world. Thank you

[@aisaxonawiat6484]

Zin was a communist liar.

[@chrisbutterfield2739]

As a bald man, I cannot help but notice how the introducer is rocking that horseshoe. It's wild and out there. Gotta love that confidence

[@martinreid2352]

Prof. Zinn starts speaking at 6:40.

[@LisaHouserman]

Gosh thanks!

[@ACKZink]

He knows the truth

[@RobRock-qr3hp]

@@ACKZink A person can rebut this with 11 words. "Why do people from around the world want to come here?

[@ACKZink]

@@RobRock-qr3hp In honestly have no clue. They probably hear the same false American exceptionalism stories we were taught k-12

[@lowellphillips2470]

@@RobRock-qr3hp You need to look at that question through a lens of materialism and through a lens of propaganda. Materially the US still has the worlds most powerful consumer economy. Much of this has been accomplished through the exploitation of american and international workers alike. Still the fruits of that exploitation can offer many people a comfort, particularly if you're escaping a place of poverty and/or conflict. Through propaganda we can see that we often and intensively market the notion of the "american dream" and our own "exceptionalism." It's become somewhat of an international lore and many people who come here do actually find themselves in a better place materially. None of this excuses the atrocities America has committed at home and across the globe. Although we have much to offer, much of that has come at the expense of the world's "have-not's."

[@CandysFavorites]

A current good book that talks about his topic is How To Hide An Empire by Daniel Immerwahr 2019

[@luvslogistics1725]

Wow what a huge empire…a few islands in the pacific. Should have left them alone so Japanese could go bayonet their inbred indigenous populations soon as done rapid them…to include Hawaii.

[@necklix]

Zinn was amazing in his research in historical facts. I appreciate this lecture so much! Thank you Professor Zinn!

[@officeofpeaceinformation5094]

Yes, he copied Nazi anti-American war propaganda word for word, its down right plagiarism, there's no point that Zinn makes that the Nazis didn't accuse America of, there's nothing even original with Zinn. Luce's American century, the treatment of the indians, american exceptionalism, the founding fathers were evil aggressive war mongers wanting to take over the world, all to be found in anti-american nazi propaganda in the 1940s.

[@moestietabarnak]

@@officeofpeaceinformation5094 You know when propaganda is the most effective , when it's TRUE... The Nazi might have used the same TRUE History, just like Russia or Iran telling you WHO is the AGGRESSOR, the one having military base all around your country ? or the one protecting its territory and airspace ?

[@officeofpeaceinformation5094]

@@moestietabarnak If you dont think that Hitler was the aggressor in WWII you should learn history, read the 1920 NSDAP party program (Lebensraum in the east), Mein Kampf, Hitlers 1928 2nd book (Lebensraum in the east), They invaded the Sudentanland, Poland, France, started the battle of Britain by the first bomb attack on Coventry, attacked the Soviet Union 1941, declared war in the US. But the US was the aggressor according to you and all the anti-american nazi propaganda then and the neo-nazi propaganda now. If you dont self identify as a neo-nazi, you might just as well. I am not name calling, anti-americanism is a central part of the ideology.

[@officeofpeaceinformation5094]

@@moestietabarnak Propaganda is never true, if it were, it wouldn't be propaganda. "When a circle is a square" lol

[@moestietabarnak]

@@officeofpeaceinformation5094 prop•a•gan•da prŏp″ə-găn′də► n. The systematic propagation of a doctrine or cause or of information reflecting the views and interests of those advocating such a doctrine or cause. n. Material disseminated by the advocates or opponents of a doctrine or cause. n. A committee of cardinals (Congregation de Propaganda Fide, ‘for propagating the faith’) which has the supervision of foreign missions in the Roman Catholic Church. NOTHING in there suggest anything about TRUE or FALSE, RIGTH or WRONG... It's giving arguments for your cause, can be anything, true or false. But we all know it's easier to pass a LIE in the middle of many truth.

[@erpthompsonqueen9130]

Thank you.

[@glicmathan1771]

I really miss Howard Zinn. He was such an enlightened soul and incredible human being.

[@LukeMcGuireoides]

Incredible activist

[@91dodgespiritrt]

Glad, he's finally in hell with his creator, "Satan".

[@bullirish]

@@91dodgespiritrt Amen.

[@molliestanton2869]

As a more enlightened soul, he asked something very simple of us: to stop reaching for war as a response to the " just cause." War hurts everyone -especially the innocent ( 85-90% of casualties are civilians.) Are we still in the caveman mode? We need to find better ways to respond.

[@davidlenz9902]

It's funny how the critical perspective thought itself as subversive, but now it's the dominant view. Young people now are actually realizing that their country isn't the worse in the world.

[@cattycorner8]

I sincerely hope you are right!

[@HannaARTzink]

It is a bizarre way of welcoming distinquished guests while keeping one's hands in the pockets.

[@spiritualanarchist8162]

Good observation. It all seems a bit lukewarm. Sloppy introduction, few people in attendance, etc. But then I guess most MIT students intent to join the rich and powerful, not oppose them.

[@eseoraka]

Bizarre, and very unprofessional, to even address an audience that way. (They may be nervous)

[@91dodgespiritrt]

It's the way of a PERVERT.

[@franklinfalco9069]

A majority of americans believe that their country is in decline.

[@AbtinX]

What a beautiful voice he had. Funny thing, he sounds a lot like Christopher Walken

[@bagelbomber]

yes !!!

[@AbtinX]

@@bagelbomber same neighborhood or something? It sounds like an accent

[@MarvinRoman]

He reminds me of Alan Alda.

[@stephandrobot6546]

That's crazy how similar the speaking patterns are

[@plekkchand]

It's a very ordinary voice, actually.