HP Reverb G2 VR - One Week Later Review - An Honest Opinion

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Stellar Continuum Gaming

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@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
For those who are having issues with the G2 sweet spot and poor FOV (and have obviously already adjusted the IPD), consider looking at MRTV's video for a fix. kzbin.info/www/bejne/f4bQoIh7j7V2mZY BREAKING Our suspicions of variances might be correct, follow MRTV here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e5zJlJdsabtkpNk
@alteredworks
@alteredworks 3 жыл бұрын
There's too many people reporting bad sweet spots or poor eyebox. I'm definitely one of them and it has nothing to do with the facial interface or distance from the lens. There's so many reports that Sebastian is having people send him their G2s to see if there is an actual problem from headset to headset or if it's just personal fit. We'll know soon enough if this is as good as it gets or if there's going to be a bunch or RMAs.
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
@@alteredworks I don't know if you can, as a person, say that it doesn't have anything to do with face shape or eye distance (IPD or lens). I strongly suspect there will be some related to that and a bunch more related to QC issues and variances. For me, it's great with an IPD at closest inward. I can comfortably shift with will little to no distortion. I linked to Sebastian's video in the pinned comment and urge everyone to follow the investigation.
@alteredworks
@alteredworks 3 жыл бұрын
@@StellarContinuumGaming I absolutely agree that face geometry plays a large role in our perception of VR, however it's not a complicated endeavor to rule out certain aspects that may impact the perception of the sweet spot. Removal of the facial interface and finding the dead center of the sweet spot for a single eye is straight forward. In spite of this, it is easy to see how the focus of the lenses drops off rather quickly. I find the sweet spot about on par with other headsets, but the field of view that's in focus isn't very optimal. At least this is what me and a significant portion of users are experiencing. I think what Sebastian at MRTV is doing is fantastic by trying as bunch of them to find out. We will have a definitive answer about any unit to unit varience or anecdotal experience. Given that there's also issues with DSE banding (I have it) it's not a stretch to be worried about other manufacturing issue. BTW, I really appreciate your video.
@AdityaPrasad007
@AdityaPrasad007 3 жыл бұрын
Where is the link to the battery buddy?
@stevenrachal8517
@stevenrachal8517 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for an actual review! I am patiently impatiently waiting for my g2 to arrive.
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome! I hope you have a wonderful time with it.
@EwanMusic
@EwanMusic 3 жыл бұрын
idk what everyone is complaining about, i find the tracking fine
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
It's not as bad as people on the Internet say and is certainly serviceable in the right environment for 99% of things you want to do.
@dreadnaught7995
@dreadnaught7995 3 жыл бұрын
@@StellarContinuumGaming agree its not that bad. It seems bad for people in brightly lit rooms im told. I have a dark room and haven't had any major issues.
@JokerM7895
@JokerM7895 3 жыл бұрын
@Stellar Continuum Gaming sadly it is not! It depends on what sort of games you want to play. "People in the internet" just tell their experiences, and this are mine: I tried every possible lighting setup, and in some games it works fine, but in some others it works bad and in some games it is just unplayable. Examples: In Alyx it works fine, in Asgard's wrath i.e. when you throw axes you hit maybe with one of three, while hitting everything with for example the Oculus cv1 tracking, and knockout league is unplayable because you hardly hit anything because of controllers working like attached to the hands with rubber bands.
@EwanMusic
@EwanMusic 3 жыл бұрын
i can full combo normal/hard beat saber levels with this tracking on 1.2v batteries. ngl, i expected the tracking to be sooooooo bad but i honestly find it quite good, although it is my first VR, and it does have its slip-ups.
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
@@EwanMusic That sounds very normal. The tracking is absolutely serviceable. I can't get full on Expert Beat Saber, but mainly because I am just not very good at it.
@jordirapper
@jordirapper 3 жыл бұрын
I am still on my OG Vive with Index controllers, audio strap and lens mod and I am still quite happy with it.
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed mine hugely and used it almost daily until it died.
@Bongwater33
@Bongwater33 Жыл бұрын
I use a black zip tie to replace that little cord holder that snaps for everyone (and me) works fine!
@BaseRealityVR
@BaseRealityVR 3 жыл бұрын
Love HMD, Hate WMR Tracking. this with lighthouse would be what Im looking for.
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty much my feelings too.
@StrikeAa0
@StrikeAa0 3 жыл бұрын
Nah I want them to work on the WMR tracking. I want a headset that you can plug in and head straight into a game, no stupid light house setups for anything.
@jordirapper
@jordirapper 3 жыл бұрын
Well if you have the money you can use the g2 with the index controllers and lighthouse tracking.
@AceFondu
@AceFondu 3 жыл бұрын
I got my G2 a few days ago. Another thing to mention is many games do not support WMR controls out of the gate. You have to do a ton of tweaking to get things working right in a number of games, and some like Borderlands 2 VR, I've found anyway are simply unplayable due to the crosshair being off center and a multitude of other control incompatibilities.
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that. I really should have mentioned it. For the most part, SteamVR titles are handled pretty well through the driver. But you're right, there are some problematic titles for WMR. I hope the platform will be better supported in the future! Thanks for the comment.
3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure this is changing, much thanks to the G2 even. MSFS 2020 really put the G2 in the spotlight. I think the future looks great for WMR headsets from now on. Of course, I agree with everyone else that they constantly need to improve hand tracking. Head tracking is perfectly fine, alot better than the odyssey+ even which is very sensitive to light levels.
@Cameron_the_Robot
@Cameron_the_Robot 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to comment that in G2 V2 they made the clip for cable less rigid and more flexible. Con to this is that cable slack generally knocks it out of play.
@vovilagutin1229
@vovilagutin1229 3 жыл бұрын
Good review. I find the g2 to be horrible for my situation. Everything is wrong except the outstanding visuals. Controllers and tracking are horrible, comfort and audio aren’t as great as the youtubers say, I mostly play FPS in VR and most of the games I play don’t even support the reverb g2 controllers. I actually miss my cv1 after using the g2. I hate to say this but I don’t recommend in the slightest
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
I think a lot of people will be in that position. Tracking is "serviceable", but not great. You're right that the visuals are outstanding and are great for sims using HOTAS/gamepad. For FPS, I'll pair it with my legacy Vive controllers. Now I just need to be able to find a good video card. :)
@bliglum
@bliglum 3 жыл бұрын
So the controllers are not only garbage, they're not even widely supported eh? Nice...
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
@@bliglum Actually they run fine in all SteamVR games with correct models and tracking.
@bliglum
@bliglum 3 жыл бұрын
@@StellarContinuumGaming Okay, so they do mostly work, like 80% of the time you said though eh? I'm still not sold.. Tracking is important to me. But so is resolution! Argh!! I just wish Valve would release a 4K Index.
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
@@bliglum 80% of the time, meaning it doesn't track behind your back, aligned above/on your eyes or in your lap. Basically if you made a sphere around yourself, there would be around 80% sphere coverage. For common usage, it would be around 98% in all SteamVR apps. The bigger problem is that it feels "laggy" sometimes. I've been using lighthouse tracking for the past four years and the difference is noticable. The tracking is "serviceable", not amazing.
@the0nlytrueprophet942
@the0nlytrueprophet942 3 жыл бұрын
It seems a good shout to buy this, then sell and upgrade the controllers after 6 months or so? would be best of both worlds then
@MartinSchmuckVR
@MartinSchmuckVR 3 жыл бұрын
I don't have much problems with controller tracking except one bix exception. I loose totally tracking beneath the headset when I hold the controller in front of my chest or my belly. Did you make a similar experience?
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, indeed. I'm afraid that's a limitation of the four-camera inside-out tracking. Especially with the suboptimal placement of the cameras. :( It's generally very usable, but not quite perfect. Here's hoping.
@ethancknight
@ethancknight 3 жыл бұрын
If WMR doesn’t fix the occlusion and constant tracking issues it’s going to die off. Oculus’s insight tracking is flawless when it comes to shooters, you can hold the controller up to the headset as close as you want and it still tracks without fail, not to mention one controller can’t occlude the other.
@guillermopawlowsky9916
@guillermopawlowsky9916 3 жыл бұрын
The review is fine except for one thing: the lenses are terrible and have the smallest sweet spot of any headsets I've tried. It is one thing to focus on the positive aspects (like having low levels of glare), but to say that the lenses have a large sweet spot is outright lying.
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
I can't speak to your experience, only to my own.
@ritchski1
@ritchski1 3 жыл бұрын
Bit concerned about the FOV complaints. It would be giving up one thing for another....
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
I can just suggest you give it a try. Opinion varies from person to person. It registers at 95 for me and 115 for Engadget.
@user9999-z
@user9999-z 2 жыл бұрын
@@StellarContinuumGaming hey 2 questions, do you use this headset more than your vive since you bought it? And also is the tracking that bad? Like can i not play games thwt arent sim games
@EZ8E
@EZ8E 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. I agree with all. However, I am unable to get my G2 controllers to work at all when running Elite Dangerous. Any insight or tips to get it working? I also have the Rift S installed and have no issues when using that unit. Thanks in advanced.
@davidhorobin1060
@davidhorobin1060 3 жыл бұрын
Great review - thanks. My G2 arrived yesterday. Initial impressions - incredible experience (I’ve never used a VR before) but it’s only in focus in a very small central area - the rest of the visual area becomes increasingly blurred as you move your eyes. I had expected that the whole visual field would be clear but it isn’t, just the central bit. In order to look at something clearly, you have to move your head and have it in the central area of your vision. Is this normal I wonder?
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I hope you have fun.
@-........
@-........ 3 жыл бұрын
not quite as you describe. a lot of it has to do with how you wear it.
@socks2441
@socks2441 3 жыл бұрын
8:20 i have had bad experiences using bluetooth headphones with my lenovo explorer wmr. works fine in games where you only need one controller and leave the other off, like pistol whip or beatsaber with single gun/ saber. also works great in games like sim racing or flying where you dont need any controllers. but it does not appear to have the bandwidth to support all three bluetooth devices at once. you get massive issues. such a shame they didnt add a headphone jack. not like they saved that many pennies. oh well. just a long aux cable will suffice. i often do that anyway with my current headset as its more reliable than when plugged in directly. as good as those headphones are, and i have no heard a bad thing about them. i would still prefer headphones that isolate me from outside noises. i dont want to hear the neighbours arguing while im in vr for example. nor do i want my mic picking up my audio from my loud headphones/ speakers. i also like having headphones touching my ears/ head so i can feel the vibration when there is bass. but im sure those off ear headphones are still cool and i guess i would sometimes use them.
@DK-ty5ue
@DK-ty5ue 3 жыл бұрын
Is someone else having issues with the controllers not responding and just doing their own thing? Like I get pulled to the right or start spinning my view without touching any controls until I get frustrated and turn it off. Using a 2080 super. Had the headset for 2 day and it is not fun. Sweet spot feels like 5%. Kind of depressing might have to just return and wait a few more years for better tech.
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty certain you're not the only one with those issues. The main problems have been either hardware based (faulty device), software based (misconfigured USB, etc.) or, most likely, not using 1.5v batteries in an area that is neither too bright nor too dark. This is a limitation of WMR - something they really need to look at. Someone else also commented that their controller sticks also didn't work and signaled the "wrong direction". I'd suggest different lighting, different USB port, re-installing drivers, etc. If not, I'd go straight back to HP.
@DK-ty5ue
@DK-ty5ue 3 жыл бұрын
@@StellarContinuumGaming Hey, Wiped my whole computer, my room is optimally lit, and using 1.5V batteries. 1.2V don't even work when I try. Also tried every single USB port on the PC. Using a few months old PC more than capable of handling any VR. I dont think the controller buttons are sticking. After about 20 min of Alyx the controllers just get triggered by themselves. Unplayable
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
@@DK-ty5ue Then I'm fresh out of ideas. Those are the common cures I've read and seen so far. I'd guess a call to HP wouldn't be out of order. :)
@Obiter3
@Obiter3 3 жыл бұрын
When you run the Reverb G2 on a sub-required GPU as you have here, you'll have issues. You should really review it with a 2080 minimum, as HP says you should. You'll have a much better experience.
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
No doubt. I went into it with lessened expectations. Sadly, the 3080 I've been wanting has avoided me since announcement. The headset quality and view is amazing for me. At half res, it's still excellent.
@danielkaaska54
@danielkaaska54 3 жыл бұрын
I just opened it yesterday for the first time. This is my first headset, but i can tell you that people with wider IPD(I am guessing this is the reason) will have problems with this device. I guess i have this, because i found the problem a lot of people reports - in the middle of the screen when your eyes are focused you will see sharp image but once you roll your eyes without any head movement everything becomes really blurry... and forget about this super high clear image. And believe me I tried every possible way and position to put this thing on my head. I use native high resolution but it has got nothing to do with lenses, IPD and clarity. I expected something better. Since this is my first VR toy i am still super excited, but for me, after all this "YT influancers" hype train, than HP preorders tale of endless f..up... i really think press and media for this device are overrated and misleading. Another thing is that Windows mixed reality is a total garbage software(like almost everything microsoft does), tracking is exactly what other people says...NOT GOOD! Overall decent piece of hardware but nothing exceptional or ground breaking as they claim. Recomended for people with monster(3080!) hardware who likes to play sim games. I think i will still enjoy it, but i am waiting for another generation of valve products. Than i will probably switch it and never look back.
@daathgnosis2098
@daathgnosis2098 3 жыл бұрын
How much better is it than the quest 2, for me it was unplayable as a virtual desktop monitor playing rdr2 in virtual desktop, it had horrible resolution compared to my 2k monitor and was generally very uncomfortable including eye strain, etc.
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
As far as resolution, color fidelity and the monitor side of things go, it will be significantly better than the Quest 2. Virtual Desktop on Quest 2 will run at the same 90Hz as this but will suffer from artifacts due to compression needed to run over the link and an overall lower res display. For a seated session, this would be great. And if you have a good enough video card, you could run VorpX too... :) Thanks for watching!
@daathgnosis2098
@daathgnosis2098 3 жыл бұрын
@@StellarContinuumGaming ty
@jlepage36
@jlepage36 3 жыл бұрын
I've had my G2 for a week - running with 3700x and RTX 3080. So far I would say Quest 2 is very similar in visuals when you enable high bitrate of 350 Mbps or more, set to 90Hz and texture mapping to max. uploadvr.com/oculus-link-set-bitrate-update/. Out of the box, G2 display definitely blows away the Q2... when it works. My G2 is constantly crashing to desktop, controls are not mapped correctly in some games, and some games are just completely unplayable on my system due to crashing. It may be a USB issue or WMR, not sure what the problem is. G2 > for virtual desktop or VorpX, audio, comfort, movies, and slightly higher framerate. Q2 > for value, portability, tracking, native VR and SteamVR, and stability.
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
@@jlepage36 More importantly, how did you manage to find a 3080?
@daathgnosis2098
@daathgnosis2098 3 жыл бұрын
@@jlepage36 I don't understand you say similar then you say blows out of the water. Anyways all the issues seem like a bad thing..
@AlexanderXtcSlayin
@AlexanderXtcSlayin 2 жыл бұрын
lol You sound almost exactly like the warcraft youtuber "madseasonshow"
@mysticchicken5352
@mysticchicken5352 3 жыл бұрын
To bad if you have and X570 Mobo and a 5700 XT no reverb for you. =(
@Mark__smith
@Mark__smith 3 жыл бұрын
Gtx1070 good luck with that, I'm sure it would be good for some games but better using the rift s for project cars 2 or dcs. Your not going to get the best use guys. By the time you can the head sets will be available for £200 know what you want from the head sets before paying full price.
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
I'd be happy being able to find a reasonably priced RTX 3xxx-series card. As it is, setting WMR to use half-resolution rendering works fine.
@Mark__smith
@Mark__smith 3 жыл бұрын
@@StellarContinuumGaming GTX1080 or the GTX1080ti minimum for a oculus rift s. I have GTX1080 and Ryan 5 cpu. Running great. I also have a GTX1070 ti. I tried it and it worked but not so good frame dropped to much even with tray app Running. Anyway the cheaper option GTX1080 is ok for project cars 2, assetto corsa LA canyons with 2 way traffic, DCS, I couldn't get a new gpu so upgraded the cpu it made all the difference. Hope this helps.
3 жыл бұрын
This headset is so bad I had to pay HP $54 to take it back.
@Sedokun
@Sedokun 3 жыл бұрын
4:26 MS fixing Steam...yep, sure.
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Literally the exact opposite of what I said.
@Pierluigi_Di_Lorenzo
@Pierluigi_Di_Lorenzo 3 жыл бұрын
Generous sweet spot? Not here.
@dwaynebaker8733
@dwaynebaker8733 3 жыл бұрын
It's pure garbage, hard to believe Oculus quest 2 is actually better, way better tracking as well
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
For its price, Quest 2 is not bad. The low resolution, artifacts over "link", etc (not to mention the Facebook accounts) keep it from greatness. But again, for the price, it's fine. The Insight tracking is very good though and agree that MS would do well to emulate it in a non-patent-infringing way.
@shape6093
@shape6093 3 жыл бұрын
For pc vr, I doubt the Quest 2 is as comfortable or clear + facebook will spy on everything you do in there.
@dtz1000
@dtz1000 3 жыл бұрын
@@StellarContinuumGaming Quest 2 low resolution? Not sure about that.
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
@@dtz1000 1832×1920 vs 2160x2160
@dtz1000
@dtz1000 3 жыл бұрын
@@StellarContinuumGaming Exactly. Neither of those are low resolutions.
@mishafran
@mishafran 3 жыл бұрын
Just got my G2 delivered, and it's amazing my baterries lasted for 4 days.
@gladiatormechs5574
@gladiatormechs5574 3 жыл бұрын
i keep hearing that the tracking is horrible.. what is your opinion on tracking and controllers
@tf22raptor
@tf22raptor 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I have the same opinion as Vincent S regarding the sweet spot on this unit, it is very small and very noticeable compared to a Rift-s/CV1, many people are reporting/complaining about it. Stellar that is a good idea about contacting HP I might have to just to get some clarification or whether perhaps my lenses are faulty, if the sweet spot which I estimate is around 10-15% of the screen was twice that size there wouldn’t be a problem and id be happy but anytime I think about moving my eyes anywhere but straight I will notice a slight blur which is leading to an uncomfortable experience, its a bit like having a spotlight on the top of my head and have to move my full head and not my eyes to see continuous clarity
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
I'd definitely contact them! Even in the prototype units people were happy with the sweet spot size. Another channel you might want to check out is the MRTV one. I wonder if his FrankenFOV mod would be useful to you. I'm strongly suspecting there might be a QC issue as I'm hearing vastly different experiences. If you get hold of them, please let me know what you find out! p.s., make sure your top strap is adjusted correctly. That was key to getting my view centered. Again, thanks for writing, and please let me know what you find out as it sounds like we may be onto something. Your experience I believe, but I also believe the person who commented that his/her experience was pretty much exactly like mine (see below). There seem to be some inconsistencies and based on the bits that broke out of the box, I'm not ruling out quality control problems.
@annenouk5272
@annenouk5272 3 жыл бұрын
I have the same problem. The sweet spot is not even 5% but less. Tried to use it without gasket to see if a thinner one would help but even with my eyes that close only like 2% is clear, looking straight ahead. The rest is blurry.
@tf22raptor
@tf22raptor 3 жыл бұрын
@@annenouk5272 in my first session when in the Windows Mixed Reality I really noticed the sweet spot then changed the WMR setting 720 to 1080 and changed the other couple of settings in the dropdown from performance to quality, then in my next session where I didn’t play with the settings or go into WMR home and tried iracing and DCS flight slim I actually didn’t notice the issue with the sweet spot as much, was like my brain adapted or else it was because I didn’t use a program or game where the sweet spot is obvious, Ive seen other people say this headset is great for sims but not some great for casual gaming etc, hopefully some settings can help
@annenouk5272
@annenouk5272 3 жыл бұрын
@@tf22raptor thanks for the tips but I already did that. I will give it a few more days to see if my brain adjust to it. It did for you so who knows.
@midnightrocker7
@midnightrocker7 3 жыл бұрын
the visuals on this headset is the best I have seen in a VR Headset, the clarity is phenomenal, I just wish the Windows Mixed Reality software on it was better( wish I could turn off the vignette feature while snap turning and moving forward in the Windows Mixed Reality Portal) and issues with some of the Steam VR games need to be fixed also, the controllers are fine, but Oculus controllers are better, the audio from the earphones is very good, the tracking on some games need to be improved, the Headset itself is comfortable to wear for longer periods of time, FOV is about the same as the Rift S, but better screen resolution, Hopefully future updates will fix alot of issues with the G2
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
That was an excellent summary. Have you tried the FrankenFOV mod yet?
@midnightrocker7
@midnightrocker7 3 жыл бұрын
@@StellarContinuumGaming no I haven't, would like to eventually though, that's if I don't end up unhooking the HP Reverb G2 from my PC and put it aside and setting back up the Rift S, because I don't like the Windows Mixed Reality Portal software at all, the controllers are alright, the tracking can be better too, the Oculus software is so much better, hands down, Oculus Touch controllers are better also, I just can't believe there is no option to turn that annoying comfort vignette setting off when you move forward and snap turn in the Windows Mixed Reality Portal, I just prefer Oculus Home in the Rift S and the Quest 2, Oculus does everything right when it comes to stability in VR, the Windows Mixed Reality software is my biggest gripe with the HP Reverb G2, the software sucks
@MrShadowpanther3
@MrShadowpanther3 3 жыл бұрын
@@midnightrocker7 I would second your opinion of the MS Home. Although Oculus has been doing this for several years now and has time to polish and add things. One can only hope the MS Home will get some attention to detail, smoothing, options, and customizability as time goes on. The Quest got numerous updates that made things better. It would be cool if HP tweaked their display algorithms to possibly allow some customization that enhances sweet spot, although I suspect that would come at the expense of processing power. I remain hopeful.
@garrettbigelow
@garrettbigelow 3 жыл бұрын
This is exactly the review I was looking for; I also have a GTX 1070 and should be getting my Reverb G2 this week. Thanks for the well-put together video!
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching! I'm sure you're going to have a blast. :)
@funny_man8779
@funny_man8779 3 жыл бұрын
Stellar Continuum Gaming is the rtx 2060 with i5 10400f good
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
@@funny_man8779 I think you should be good for nearly all but the most intensive applications.
@tHoM0r
@tHoM0r 3 жыл бұрын
The lenses are bad and they can't even do a barrel distortion correction properly. I returned mine
@Garfie1d73
@Garfie1d73 3 жыл бұрын
The FOV is shite (less than 90 degrees), the controllers are shite, too.
@YCorey
@YCorey 3 жыл бұрын
depends on your face shape and there are very easy mods to fix it if you are one of the people effected by this
@arobyte
@arobyte 3 жыл бұрын
Found this review relevant to me as I'm still on a 1070 and my G2 will be here soon. Glad to see you can run it and still look good at half res. What CPU were you running this on by the way?
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Arobyte. I'm sure you're going to have a great time. The system I'm running it on has an older i7-6700K @ 4.00GHz. So far that hasn't been a determining factor. The 1070 has been a greater hurdle. :)
@SpaceDust_97
@SpaceDust_97 3 жыл бұрын
@@StellarContinuumGaming 1070 is my hurdle right now too. Glad it's been as good as it has been though, now for 4 years. Looking to get me maybe a 3080 or go the route of AMD for the 6800xt and all that extra RAM. Problem now though is...where to find one. Ugh 🤔😏
@KiwiClawDHA
@KiwiClawDHA 2 жыл бұрын
@@SpaceDust_97 what did you upgrade too? I got a 1070 and VRchat can eat up the last 1.5-2 gigs of VRAM im left with after WMR portal.
@RainbowAquarium8
@RainbowAquarium8 3 жыл бұрын
This has been the closest review to my experience with the G2. Thanks!
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Richard. I hope you're having a blast with it, despite the issues!
@RainbowAquarium8
@RainbowAquarium8 3 жыл бұрын
@@StellarContinuumGaming So far it has been great!
@killaonmoco
@killaonmoco 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone that does these never say how comfortable they are wearing glasses in them, so I'd say find one of your friends that wear glasses and do a co-host thing, cause I don't have enough to get contacts yet.
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 2 жыл бұрын
I wear glasses and have no difficulty wearing them with the HMD. As a matter of fact, the G2 tends to keep my glasses from sliding around. A plus! - Glenn
@gamesushi
@gamesushi 3 жыл бұрын
If you think about how Tom Cruise is crazy and how good he is at being crazy that he's essentially in a league of his own, that's how good Stellar Continuum Gaming is at reviewing games!!! A league of their own. Yes Sir, the Tom Cruise of reviewers right here. I can't think of anyone else who makes their reviews so interesting while breaking down all the technical aspects so that a simpleton like me can understand. Thanks for another amazing review Stellar! Also can you introduce me to Cameron Diaz?
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks GameSushi! And your channel is the best at chill "sitting down with a buddy" playtime videos. I often listen to them while working. I appreciate the compliment!
@Matthewv1998
@Matthewv1998 3 жыл бұрын
Tracking has been completely solid for me, it hasn’t failed in any games ive played. Only thing that broke it was playing infront of a Christmas tree. However i did a little modding and using red film over the cameras improved tracking in front of the tree heavily, to a useable degree. (Ive called it the Red Eye mod)
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating! Out of curiosity, were they flashing or steady lights? Incandescent or LED?
@Matthewv1998
@Matthewv1998 3 жыл бұрын
@@StellarContinuumGaming Christmas tree were LED, mostly flicker free, white LEDS. www.reddit.com/r/HPReverb/comments/knktjk/been_experimenting_with_tracking_on_the_g2_and/? even made some testing with it here with a Mod.
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
@@Matthewv1998 Got it. Thanks! I guess it's easy for the cameras to get confused by other white LEDs. :)
@DaveMcRee
@DaveMcRee 3 жыл бұрын
Great review! very solid unit in all areas, if you don't have an AMD mainboard USB chipset.
@haydenjonesmusic
@haydenjonesmusic Жыл бұрын
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@juvenil6969
@juvenil6969 3 жыл бұрын
Do you get the full 90fps with a GTX 1070? I have a GTX 1070 too and am wondering if I'll be able to do a VR headset justice
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
You can in less demanding games, but I'd recommend setting it at "half resolution" or dynamically adjusted resolution in Windows just to be safe.
@ZXspectrum..
@ZXspectrum.. 3 жыл бұрын
Does your 1070 have enough power for the headset, did you notice any limitations with fps etc ? I have a 1070ti but didn't think that would be enough for the G2 ??
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
It works fine if you go into the Windows Mixed Reality settings and have it prioritize frame rate. This, as I understand, makes it run a half res. I haven't had issues worse than I did with the Vive and the same card. It's just that the quality of the image is vastly superior. Some day I'll get my hands on a 3080 and 3090 and run it at full res. :)
@danielkaaska54
@danielkaaska54 3 жыл бұрын
Be careful if you want to play this with sim games or any other performance taxing monsters. There are numerous rapports that if you can achieve full native, high G2 resoultion, going down(and these are 1080Ti cards) will make the game look worst than on much cheaper headsets because of poor down scaling. Mine G2 just arrived yesterday and i am plan to test it myself.
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
@@danielkaaska54 Yep. You need a beefy card for full res. For us who cannot find a 30xx or 6800/6900, it's best to run it at half res. It still has an amazing image, but with "bigger" pixels.
@pedroferrr1412
@pedroferrr1412 3 жыл бұрын
@@danielkaaska54 I´m playing almost only sim games, and in RR, Rfactor2 and AC, I have in WMR all the max settings, and in Steam VR 170%. But i don´t use 90hz, for me 60hz, is good enough, other friends tried it, without knowing it was at 60hz, and the response: Man, what an amazing image. One friend, that tested VR with my old headset (lenovo 1440) could not play at 60hz, in minutes he became sick. But with the reverb, he said that he could play for hours. I have an 8 core intel and 1080ti, all overclocked. Pcars2 and AM2, steamVR at 100%. PS: settings from high to medium with some at low, cars, always at ultra. Alyx at 100% also, at high, don´t play VR games like Alyx often, because the tracking is bad.
@SpaceDust_97
@SpaceDust_97 3 жыл бұрын
Great review. Great info! I loved the Samsung Odyssey Plus HMD, but I do struggle with liking those big WMR rings and all those LEDs on the controllers, but wasn't terrible (overall as good or better ...probably better...than the Vive Wands, as there is the thumbstick PLUS the touchpad on the O+ controllers). The major thing though is: I just DO NOT like the WMR Cliff House. I wish it could go away and strictly use Steam. Cheers!
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, SpaceDust. I couldn't agree with you more on every point. The whole WMR user experience needs to be revisited. Just buy Steam and let Gabe run the division. :)
3 жыл бұрын
@@StellarContinuumGaming I think this is still a bad way. The way Microsoft did with MSFS is really the best way. There is no dependencies on a launcher at all. I don't need steam as it uses openxr. Wish all games were like that. After this sure support launchers as well. But they should all be standalone also.
@KiwiClawDHA
@KiwiClawDHA 2 жыл бұрын
Or a light option version. Its annoying on how much VRAM it uses.
@jamessusbilla
@jamessusbilla 3 жыл бұрын
thank *YOU*
@mhuebner1000
@mhuebner1000 3 жыл бұрын
And Christmas is right around the corner. Great review! Do you think it would be useful to set a gaming room with visual targets to improve tracking, something like scattered black dots on white wall for a bright room or small LED lights for a dark environment?
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
It seems that the lighting in the room being of moderate brightness is more important than having dedicated tracking features. This should work in a regular office for example (its alleged target). I hope you get one for Christmas! Thanks for watching.
@NicoSeymore
@NicoSeymore 3 жыл бұрын
Nice review, ive been trying to get lighthouses for months now. Its like they stopped producing totally
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Even the Indexes are way backed up. Steam has been falling down.
@NicoSeymore
@NicoSeymore 3 жыл бұрын
@@StellarContinuumGaming its sad VR feels kinda dropped like 3d right now. I love it and dont want casual Facebook Tier games at all. Really hope it gets better soon. At least we have VorpX and some great titles like Alyx and Skyrim (modded) or classics like Doom and Quake. Cant wait to replace my Quest with the G2 in a few days
@nachtraumom
@nachtraumom 3 жыл бұрын
Microsoft buying Steam would be the last thing on earth to hope for
@MrShadowpanther3
@MrShadowpanther3 3 жыл бұрын
After seeing what FB did to Oculus... I couldn't agree more.
@gladiatormechs5574
@gladiatormechs5574 3 жыл бұрын
Can you play the STEAM GAMES on this hp reverb g2
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. Absolutely. It's demoed in the video.
@johnny9048
@johnny9048 3 жыл бұрын
Good review, I owned one and returned it. I was not blown away by the hp g2, even the headset is a bit sluggish compared to base station tracking. LED blacks don’t do well compared to OLED. The lenses are a step up, but godrays and glare still present. It’s redeeming quality is it’s no SDE. But it lacks in many others, notably controller tracking and even minor headset sluggish ness. WMR still needs to mature more and something is up between WMR and steam client that add micro lag. But agreed, this unit is fine for simmers. On a personal note, I wish for a headset that supports both fresnel lenses and regular cheap lenses like what is found in a lens mod. I had done that to my vive pro and I struggle to back to fresnel.
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
All valid. I like the lenses and panel quality, but the tracking is not great. If you are a simmer, it's great with a HOTAS, but yeah, the tracking feels slow and sluggish at times.
@StrikeAa0
@StrikeAa0 3 жыл бұрын
7:40 where the quest 2 has 1 battery and lasts nearly for ever. I have no idea how they did that. I've been playing with my quest 2 for 100's of hours and haven't dropped below 100% on both controllers. MAGIC tech that they are hiding
@tasiji1520
@tasiji1520 3 жыл бұрын
oh man can we get some gameplay (i also bought this headset and same batteries) i will be mainly using this for blade and sorcery & boneworks etc what concerns should i have
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
I'm working on the gameplay footage and had gathered a lot of "through the lens" footage but the quality (of the recording) was so bad due to sync issues, it wouldn't have been a good representation of how amazing it looks. I'm working on getting a better camera for it now. I tried sims and action titled, the sims to see how big of a difference it makes (a lot when reading gauges) and quick reflex games (Beat Saber, Until You Fall) to test the tracking accuracy and responsiveness (generally fine). The biggest impact came from keeping a moderate amount of lighting in the room. Switching off the room lights caused a lot of issues with both headset and controller tracking - things that didn't happen with lighthouse tracking. I've been working on pairing the Vive wands with this HMD. What have been your initial impressions?
@KiwiClawDHA
@KiwiClawDHA 2 жыл бұрын
Every nlw and then I got to repair my controllers. Sometimes in game my controllers are far off center, but not in WMR. Love the headset. Also using a 1070. Cant wait to upgrade my gpu for full resolution. Though does your headset lenses get warm. And they finally updated WMR home. Now it just needs an off switch so I can save on VRAM.
@GoldSrc_
@GoldSrc_ 2 жыл бұрын
Are there really tracking "issues"? Seems to me that working within its limitations cannot be called an "issue". If it was something like tracking breaking while the controllers are in full view of the cameras, then _that_ would really be an issue. Calling it an "issue" seems somewhat dishonest to me, it's more like a limitation instead of an issue. If a truck can't beat an F1 car in an F1 race, that's not an "issue", the truck can only do so much and it's not meant to race in F1. Just like the cameras on the G2, they're meant to work like that. I see their limitations but that's not an issue.
@emesar5233
@emesar5233 3 жыл бұрын
Nice review. Mentioning both pro's & con's. A friend of mine bought the G2. After dealing with the hazardous software and tacky controllers he ended up buying the quest 2. He still has the G2, but he doesn't talk about it much.
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
it's a fantastic headset for the simmer or one who needs the sharper graphics (office environments). For game centric use, I'd go either consumer grade like the Quest (when they get rid of the Facebook requirement) or Index for the controllers and visuals. For me MS Flight Sim looks astonishing and I just need a better card to drive it at full res. Thanks for watching and the comment!
@darkfox2401
@darkfox2401 2 жыл бұрын
for the price he could have just fixed the controller issues
@darkfox2401
@darkfox2401 2 жыл бұрын
If you were serious about Microsoft buying steam That actually sounds terrible. Every time Microsoft busy something, they don't know how to take care of the programing of things they buy.(Gates bought 86-DOS for 50k in 1981 and turned it into Windows.) That is why Windows has had so many issues over the years, and that is why skype also died. I really would not like the minimal issues with steam to become a unusable mess sometimes like everything else they bought but did not fully develop themselves.
@fritzcapet2101
@fritzcapet2101 2 жыл бұрын
I owned 2 of them. A used one and a new one. Both were completly disappointing. Both Not Working on a nee PC. And what a List of Errors all over the Web! Impossible TO Check that all. It Seems TO Mr being a game. Some work others not.
@GregWoodsLancs
@GregWoodsLancs 3 жыл бұрын
5 degree sweetspot, godrays, and chromatic aberration. Very disappointed in the optics of the G2, but until we get tiny displays and real glass multi-element, multicoated lenses, I'm not convinced VR will improve
@martinrv570
@martinrv570 2 жыл бұрын
mine sits at home without running . . . piece of shit 9900k msi z390 gaming carbon pro usb 3.1 and shitty install process says i don´t have usb 3 everithyng other works ... don´t buy
@dave-j-k
@dave-j-k Жыл бұрын
I got the G2v2 a week ago - i only flight sim in it, you say reading gauges is the same as a high end monitor - care to explain how as I am really struggling in FS2020 to read gauges etc unless i move the head right in or use the zoom function, tracking is great and sound perfect though
@ameliabuns4058
@ameliabuns4058 3 жыл бұрын
put quest 2's tracking and controllers there and i'd be running to the nearest store to get one
@fraggsta
@fraggsta 3 жыл бұрын
I don't recognise the WMR environment it seems to have put you into on the first run. I got the Cliff House instead..I don't really care about it since I just immediately run a game once VR starts and I see it. I don't really see the same issues with headset tracking that you do, haven't felt it be sluggish at all. Controller tracking honestly seems "good enough" for me. Yeah you can get it to freak out, but in normal usage it's fine. I didn't find the sweet spot and image clarity quite as impressive as other people have said, although it really hits you how sharp the headset is when you do things like trying to read text. Since I have a Vive and have the lighthouses, I might well get some Knuckles controllers. I'm mostly playing sims and it's pretty much fine though. HP is now giving customers like me who preordered £50 cashback, which makes me feel a bit less angry about having to wait for FIVE MONTHS to get it and the completely bungled launch.
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
There is a "Change Environment" option that let's you switch between the two.
@mrelisard
@mrelisard 3 жыл бұрын
great review! Only an architect or interior designer would make the connection of the controllers being some 60ties futuristic design, that's so spot on. Using the index controllers with this headset is shockingly good. the reverb is all about the headset, g2 controllers are only good in a pinch. Oh, by the way, watch this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bnmTqnebm9Okg6M
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Hehe! Or a software architect who grew up in the 70's surrounded by "au courant" burnt orange and avacado green shag carpet. :) Once I finish repainting my VR space and get the lighthouses back up, I'm going to use the Vive controllers with this headset, following your lead. For simming or with better controllers, the headset is the star. I couldn't agree more with you! Thanks for writing!
@PHaas-rc6sx
@PHaas-rc6sx 3 жыл бұрын
I have this set but connection issues are frustrating me soooo much. One day it works fine, the next day it won’t connect and keeps asking me to connect the Vr glasses. 🤯 yesterday I gave up finding the solution and left it for dead. I think I need to call for RMA.
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
I'd ask for a new cable. From what I've read here and other places, that's their common answer for those problems. Sorry you're having issues!
@skoda10
@skoda10 3 жыл бұрын
G2 is my first vr headset so i don't know if this is normal but when i have it on the background is kind of flickering a bit. not much but a bit and all the time. is that normal? if i keep my head still some things in the background will still allways move a bit in games. or should it look as if you are playing on a normal pc monitor?
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
No. That doesn't seem normal at all. I've not experienced any flickering.
3 жыл бұрын
They have to let people use STEAMVR as vanilla :P
@paintballperson4402
@paintballperson4402 3 жыл бұрын
i feel like im the only one who has so many issues with my g2, my sensors constantly think my hmd is sideways. also when i got the headset some of my games just stopped working, blade and sorcery doesnt respond to my left thumbstick at all, and i think the game thinks im using htc controllers. even though steam vr knows im using the mr standard controllers. its very confusing that im the only one who has so many software issues aswell, my headset gives me error codes that dont mean anything. id really like some help if anyone knows how to fix these issues
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry to hear about the issues you're having. I'd first make sure there were no conflicting configurations left around and it's not a USB issue (mis-reporting, erroring out, etc.) Maybe you have a friend that has one you can try on your machine?
@paintballperson4402
@paintballperson4402 3 жыл бұрын
@@StellarContinuumGaming I uninstalled and reinstalled the software, I think I just got a bad headset because I still have all my same issues, I’ll see if I get a refund. Thx for the help
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
@@paintballperson4402 Sorry to hear that! The weirdness with the controllers being not recognized correctly and the hitching seems pretty awful. I don't think you're alone in having problems. I'm starting to suspect that in their panicky haste, QC might not be what it should. Which headset are you going to try next?
@paintballperson4402
@paintballperson4402 3 жыл бұрын
@@StellarContinuumGaming sorry to respond so late, but I fixed it! for some reason you cannot use a usb 3.1, you have to use a usb 3 for it to work correctly. (even though they should be compatible) I'd say, after all the stuff that I had to do to get the G2 to work, its totally worth it, the G2 is the best vr headset I've ever used (including the index because of motion sickness) the only part part is the tracking, and the windows software is kind of useless.
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
@@paintballperson4402 Awesome! Thanks for checking back in. I'm relieved that you're all sorted away and having a great experience. Yeah, the controllers aren't that great, but the visuals are amazing! It's weird that switching to USB 3 fixed it, but you're over the hump. :)
@blave549
@blave549 3 жыл бұрын
Good video. The cable clip is worthless, broken or not. I use a velcro strap to secure the cable to the back of the headset.
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what I ended up doing too. One of those velcro cable wrap thjngies. Thanks for watching!
@hoangdbui
@hoangdbui 3 жыл бұрын
This could just be valve index revision after a year that valve could release instead but I doubt it. I love my index but need a bump in resolution with my 3090. Mine hopefully comes Jan
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
It could be, but I suspect their next Index will still use lighthouse tracking. I want to be able to find a 3080 eventually. :)
@MrBeerlove
@MrBeerlove 3 жыл бұрын
I went from Index to G2 and back again. FOV and Audio quality were both inferior on the G2 such that immersion was significantly reduced when compared to the Index. The bump in resolution was nice but not enough of an impact to offset the FOV and audio reduction. Also, despite the weight being noticeably lighter on the G2, the Index was marginally more comfortable. If Valve could produce an Index 2 keeping current FOV, Audio but with same high res panels as the G2 and a weight reduction that would be one epic HMD.
3 жыл бұрын
@@MrBeerlove What's wrong with the audio? Perhaps you got a defect unit? It uses the same audio solution as the Index.
@MrBeerlove
@MrBeerlove 3 жыл бұрын
@ it might look similar but it certainly sounded inferior and its likely that, although cosmetically similar, they have different components
3 жыл бұрын
@@MrBeerlove I don't believe you.
@boukmandutty5044
@boukmandutty5044 3 жыл бұрын
Were the problems with the controllers losing tracking enough to break immersion or are they glitches one could just play through?
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
It really depends on the game. In a sufficiently lit environment, it really didn't break immersion. I tried slow motion games, ones that used "behind the back/backpack gestures", and quick motion games that needed accuracy and responsiveness (e.g., "Beat Sabre"). The controllers worked fine in most every case, with only a few annoyances. The most notable one was that momentary "hop" when aiming down sights on two-handed weapons. Shifting the down-sight controller generally fixed the problem, but that's one I'd call immersion-breaking. :) Thanks for watching.
@dathyr1
@dathyr1 3 жыл бұрын
This VR headset is not sounding very good if the sweet spot and FOV is narrower than my Rift S I have. Plus others say here it is also blurry- probably talking about looking at the sides outside of the sweet spot. You didnt mention FPS yet in this video which in your future gameplay videos you may mention it when using your GTX-1070. I have the GTX-1080 so wondering how full Hi RES works with these type of GPU cards. Thanks for your video. I do not have this VR headset and watching reviews like yours to see what people think of this product. Getting mixed opinions right now in how well it is. I have mixed reality and steam VR software already installed cause I also have the Odyssey + which I didnt like cause of the narrow sweet spot and was hard to keep both eyes in focus while doing Racing games- so it sits in a box collecting dust. The Rift S is much better even thought the blacks are not the greatest. i am happy with my Rift S, but somewhat interested in the Hi RES and clarity of the G2. I only do SIM Racing games so controllers are a dont care. Question: that clip you talk about. it is just to hold the cable to the side of the headset for support. Why dont you use a "cable tie/Tie Wrap" like I do with my Rift S to clamp/support the VR cable to the side of the headset itself? Thanks again for your video.
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
It's the clip the holds the cable to the top/back of the headband. FPS, like you mentioned, will be different based on your card and the title you're playing. I find the sweet spot fine and the FOV a touch narrower than I like. For simmers, racers, etc. (Especially ones that use external controllers instead of the included ones), it's beautiful. I do a lot of Elite Dangerous and can't wait to try FSX on it. MRTV has a lot of through the lens comparisons showing, specifically, racing titles. I think he compared Rift S, Index and G2 (pre-prod). I'd really suggest looking at those before making a purchase decision. It's much better than my dying OG Vive (with worse controllers). Best of luck!
@dathyr1
@dathyr1 3 жыл бұрын
@@StellarContinuumGaming Thanks allot for your reply and information. I saw the information video on the Visor cover mod to improve FOV. I already have an Odyssey" and that visor cover. Like I mentioned I use my Rift S till the G2 becomes readily available in the US. take care.
@Nugget2on1
@Nugget2on1 3 жыл бұрын
What is lighthouse tracking?
@ashtongrist
@ashtongrist 3 жыл бұрын
where is the mixed in the mixed reality?
@petervoll
@petervoll 3 жыл бұрын
so many bugs.. i truly regret buying it
@roberty21
@roberty21 3 жыл бұрын
I got mine, used it a few days starting stuttering and switching itself off, faulty cable and they said they can’t replace it till late February or March so sent it back. Worst after sales ever
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I've heard more than once about poor support and aftermarket sales. Of course that could also be that those who are happy with it don't say anything. I strongly suspect that QC is not optimal...
@roberty21
@roberty21 3 жыл бұрын
@@StellarContinuumGaming it’s a shame because when it worked it was brilliant
@thebitplanes8188
@thebitplanes8188 3 жыл бұрын
I got this to replace my dying Rift CV1. I jog on a treadmill in VR and I can safely say the Reverb G2 cannot handle that application. The jogging motion causes lag that (I'm guessing) the inside-out cameras cannot compensate for making for a nauseating experience. Good news, mine goes back tomorrow so it'll be a nice refurb bargain for somebody. And I 3D printed a better clip for the one that came out of the package pre-broken.
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Cool. I haven't tried it for jogging, but used it for BoxVR and it worked fine. I'm guessing the tracking doesn't work well for bobbing quickly. I'd suggest something with lighthouse tracking as on the Vive I've managed it. Index maybe? Wish I could say I was surprised the clip came to you broken. :)
@thebitplanes8188
@thebitplanes8188 3 жыл бұрын
@@StellarContinuumGaming Thanks for the advice! I've actually gotten a nearly new Rift CV1 for 150 off craigslist to replace my 4-year old failing unit. As a bonus, the GTX1080 I have doesn't need to be upgraded for a while longer.
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
@@thebitplanes8188 Nice! Congratulations!
@Finnovation_Create
@Finnovation_Create 3 жыл бұрын
I play beat saber very competitively, is the tracking ok for that?
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
I've read conflicting reports, and I'm not great at it. I'd go for lighthouse-based tracking of you're seriously info it, but I suspect you might be disappointed. Check out MRTV's channel, he has a few videos of himself playing it to help you decide.
@Finnovation_Create
@Finnovation_Create 3 жыл бұрын
@@StellarContinuumGaming thanks, right now I use an oculus quest with link cable. I might buy the g2 then also buy lighthouses and knuckles thanks for the suggestion!
@zx2kain
@zx2kain 3 жыл бұрын
My FOV in the G2 is 78
@thesunchaser.
@thesunchaser. 3 жыл бұрын
So conclusion is: Reverb G2 headset/Valve Index Controllers/Valve Index Base Stations! And u have a great set!!
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty much. If you want to sim and use a HOTAS/gamepad, you'll be sitting pretty. Best of class. But if the controllers are your mainstay, I'd pair them with lighthouse tracked ones. Definitely the best of both worlds!
@thesunchaser.
@thesunchaser. 3 жыл бұрын
@@StellarContinuumGaming Great thnx!!! ;)
@imaginariumkey
@imaginariumkey 3 жыл бұрын
"very generous sweet spot" ? For lots of people its very small - What percent is razer sharp before it starts going blurry for you, as you look away from centre? - For me it's about 20% really sharp, then starts fuzzing
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
I've heard extremes on both ends. I've heard "there is no sweet spot at all" and "I can move it freely around without any blurriness" to "I only see god rays". I'm pretty sure there are factors going beyond the basics that lead to differing experiences. I also strongly suspect QC issues too now... For me, I say 40% stays razor sharp.
@imaginariumkey
@imaginariumkey 3 жыл бұрын
@@StellarContinuumGaming - Yes it could be a production issue - When I remove gasket and get almost eyelashes touching it improves a bit - Is yours just a regular consumer purchase, and not handed out by HP for review?
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
@@imaginariumkey It's a regular production unit I bought myself, but worrisome things are popping up with people having controllers malfunctioning, variation in lenses, etc. It's really odd. MRTV for example, seems to have even better sweet spots and lenses than I do. Maybe my odd-shaped head factors in. ;)
@jxhnmurphy9953
@jxhnmurphy9953 3 жыл бұрын
going to purchase my first vr headset in a few months, im on a gtx 1650 super, will that card be enough for this headset?
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
If you run it at half resolution, it shouldn't be an issue at all.
@jxhnmurphy9953
@jxhnmurphy9953 3 жыл бұрын
@@StellarContinuumGaming awesome, thank you so much for the response
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Best of luck!
@deegeeooh
@deegeeooh 3 жыл бұрын
OK let me please stop watching the video @4:30 for a bit to proces the horror image of MS buying Steam. Please never ever even mention this devil idea ever again, it provides a mental image of the actual apocalypse of my gaming universe. That would be so awful everything. I certainly do agree on the WMR portal. Garbage. Felt like way to many Gb's of bloatware around a driver you need to get to Steam VR. Also, the whole stacked driver idea is just.. terrible. Press the wrong button? byebye Steam VR, lets kill this aaaaand back to WMR where you certainly dont want to be.. Restarting SteamVR is something you do A LOT. Anger Management course included. Ok let's continue. Good review. I agree on the clarity; although I found the sweetspot somewhat small at first. Also the comfort with it being so lightweight, good headstrap for a tight fit and the abilty to swing up just the visor make it a great headset for longer sessions (I used mine for racing and multiple hour sessions were no problem). Unfortunately I had to return mine because of the power problem with the right screen turning off when volume over 85% (I wasnt the only one, does yours have this as well?) and crackling of the speakers due to bad connecting pins. ) Waiting for the next revision.
@supersprit5733
@supersprit5733 3 жыл бұрын
do we need a 4k monitor for pc to run 4k content, i assume G2 does not do any upscaling.
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
You do not need a 4K monitor to see 4K+ (2160x2160x2) in the G2. It's hooked up to a DisplayPort where it has its own device profile. Think of it like being another monitor. However, you will need a powerful video card to drive it at full resolution. If you're on a GTX-level card, configure it for half res. The only interplay with the monitor will be if you choose to mirror the G2's content onto it, then there will be downscaling before copy, most likely.
@supersprit5733
@supersprit5733 3 жыл бұрын
@@StellarContinuumGaming Thanks for response, coming from Standalone headset my assumption was CPU will run 4k content send same data to two ports 1) monitor 2) headset display port. you are correct there is no point in mirroring onto PC monitor bcos it simply adds to cpu+gpu load.
@archibaldikowski3646
@archibaldikowski3646 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, i have an issue with the thumbsticks, they don't work in the right direction and obviously i'm to stupid to change that in the controllersettings. Could someone explain how that works, please?
@RainmakerAnton
@RainmakerAnton 3 жыл бұрын
Too bad you don't mention that the increased resolution means you now have a tack sharp image in a very small spot in the center, and looking around with your eyes becomes a very unpleasant experience due to the extreme sharpness falloff.
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Other people have a different experience. The sweet spot is good for some and not others. Please check with MRTVs interesting analysis of this phenomenon in the pinned comment.
@RainmakerAnton
@RainmakerAnton 3 жыл бұрын
@@StellarContinuumGaming That analysis has nothing to do with the issue I described.
@cuttheloop
@cuttheloop 3 жыл бұрын
I must have gotten a dud...Mine has HORRIBLE ghost rays and chromatic aberration
@richunixunix3313
@richunixunix3313 3 жыл бұрын
My failed after 51 days, now waiting for HP to send a new cable ...as it's outside the 45 days store return policy.....sigh
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, their after sales support hasn't been great. Interesting that it was your cable as well. Thanks for the update!
@bliglum
@bliglum 3 жыл бұрын
I was seriously considering a Reverb G2... But I've heard numerous complaints about cable failure with these. Add to that the lousy, cheap controllers with questionable tracking, and the fact that it's linked to the lousy WMR platform..... Not so sure any more. Damn I wish the Index had better resolution.
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
@@bliglumAll fair points. If you're a simmer, and play seated with gamepad/HOTAS, you couldn't beat it. Using lighthouse tracking for controllers fixes the other cars. Also bypassing WMR and launching Steam directly helps, but those are the only times I could whole-heartedly recommend it. Otherwise, the Index 2 (when it comes) might be your best bet.
@richunixunix3313
@richunixunix3313 3 жыл бұрын
@@StellarContinuumGaming Thank you for your comment however HP and there troubleshooting has much to be desired we’re not sure if it’s the lens or the cable but since they are taking a path of least resistance they are sending me a new cable and that is even back ordered. Not much I can say at this point just wait. Since I own a G1 and I’ve played with the G2 I can say for flight sims the G2 wins bar none
@pedroferrr1412
@pedroferrr1412 3 жыл бұрын
@@richunixunix3313 I have an g1 pro, and tried a g2 from a friend, he tried also, and we could not perceive any difference , maybe the bright scenes ?! Anyway, last month I had to replace the cable also, and by luck, they replaced my headset, another g1 pro, but from the jul 2020.
@michaelngfinance
@michaelngfinance 3 жыл бұрын
Would you recommend it for watching movies in the VR home theatre?
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
That's a good question. I don't typically watch movies on there, so haven't checked. I assume it would be also be of great quality and clarity, but can't say. I will try some tomorrow and let you know what I find out.
@PimBJJ
@PimBJJ 3 жыл бұрын
I tried yesterday but I find the sweet spot to be a little small as when watching films you tend to keep your head still but your eyes move to view areas of the picture. The resolution is more than enough to be immersed. Hope that helps
@moncimoov
@moncimoov 3 жыл бұрын
@@PimBJJ u mean is fov
@martineidloth9577
@martineidloth9577 3 жыл бұрын
My tracking World just fine. But like your work. Go on!
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it I hope you have a blast!
@martineidloth9577
@martineidloth9577 3 жыл бұрын
@@StellarContinuumGaming I Do. Man this headset is a Dream. I Love my G2. I subscribed to your Channel today. Like your style!
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
@@martineidloth9577 Thanks, Martin!
@steeltribe3967
@steeltribe3967 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Great to the point review.
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@wildwilco
@wildwilco 3 жыл бұрын
still waiting for that link to the rechargeable 1.5v aa batteires...
@klipsch80
@klipsch80 3 жыл бұрын
A very nice review, thank you :) I got my set yesterday and have had little time to play with it, but anyone have any experience with using it with 1080ti and what resolution I should have? (full or half) in Elite Dangerous with this card? Thank you :)
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
In a huge Elite Dangerous fan too. I'd recommend 50% resolution. Hope you have fun! Thanks for watching.
@UkDave3856
@UkDave3856 3 жыл бұрын
I love mine. It's a big improvement over my previous Rifts S, withthe exception of the hand tracking which can be bad at times. Flying on DCS is now hugely immersive and I can wear it for hours
@Cazanu417
@Cazanu417 3 жыл бұрын
So is it worth it to upgrade from rift s?im more interested in the visuals i dont mind worse tracking as i dont play multiplayer
3 жыл бұрын
which was game 5:10
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
That was "Star Wars: Squadrons".
3 жыл бұрын
@@StellarContinuumGaming wtf :D No. it is not :)) ?? WTF. is magic , bow game star wars squadrons? :D "5:10"
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
@Berkan Motuğan Ah, sorry. I looked at 0:51. That is "In Death". It's a rogue like VR title. I was playing it on Steam VR. There's a review of it on this channel if you're interested.
3 жыл бұрын
@@StellarContinuumGaming + thx
@Gregoses
@Gregoses 3 жыл бұрын
have you ever tried oculus rift s or any of the quests? the lenses on those are muuuch better
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. At friend's house. Was not impressed.
@Holographic_Meatloaf252
@Holographic_Meatloaf252 3 жыл бұрын
I'm just waiting for a 3rd party face cover that improves the fov
@user9999-z
@user9999-z 2 жыл бұрын
How is it?
@regwatson2017
@regwatson2017 3 жыл бұрын
Can someone please make a wireless headset to compete with Oculus Quest. Wired headsets are just yesterday's tech. And those controllers are ridiculously large. Tracking issues like these with a 2020 headset are inexcusable.
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
HTC has a wireless adapter for the Vive and, I think, the Vive Pro. I have it myself and it works with lighthouse tracking. Sadly the HMD is finally giving up the ghost after four years of service...
@dtz1000
@dtz1000 3 жыл бұрын
Decagear does wireless PCVR. It will cost less than the G2 if it's ever released.
@regwatson2017
@regwatson2017 3 жыл бұрын
@@dtz1000 I am happy to pay extra if it can stream Steam games direct from my PC by wifi, doesn't have the tracking issues or the elephant feet handsets of the HP or the intrusive data mining locked-in control of Facebook.
@jpvanderhaegen
@jpvanderhaegen 3 жыл бұрын
It's exactly like CPU's. You need to be lucky. Some lens are good, other very bad ... You can test two and just have luck two times. And the price is absolutly too high for a very little difference with the quest 2.
@franshartman4378
@franshartman4378 3 жыл бұрын
The quality of this review is great! If I was just a simmer, I would absolutely buy the G2. But my son wants to use the headset for other gaming as well, so the controller tracking is not good enough.
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
You're probably making a wise choice. WMR tracking isn't where it should be yet. Hope your son has fun with whichever one you choose! Thanks for the kind words. :)
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
@Travis Clark Thanks for the thoughtful words and the sub. I hope you have a blast when you settle on an HMD. :)
@marcinfrostymroz
@marcinfrostymroz 3 жыл бұрын
g2 is my first ever dive into VR world and i got to say: i'm impressed. Audio is superb, tracking is accurate (in HL-Alyx an least - most other games i play are flight sims). Visuals are also good, but that FOV is very slightly disappointing - we'll see if the mods will help here. Overall a great piece of hardware
@StellarContinuumGaming
@StellarContinuumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. It's very solid. I linked to a video regarding the mod in the pinned comment. Have fun and congratulations!
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