[HQ] Fifth Gear - Escort RS Turbo vs. Kadett GSi

Prueba de Fifth Gear en la que se enfrentan el Escort RS Turbo y el Vauxhall Astra GTE (Opel Kadett GSi)
All copyright belongs to "North One Television"

[@burns985]

Kadett E GSi 16v has won awards for its time. -Aerodynamics 0.30 -SUPERIOR engine for its time (c20xe) -Design -Performance -Reliability Astra mk2 GTE is A LEGEND

[@creativecat2763]

Ill take the RS Turbo anyday of the week

[@orion1983uk]

Even by modern standards, that mk4 Escort RS Turbo looks pretty damn tidy round the track.

[@RatchetRalphOfficial]

please call it a series 1 PLEASE

[@mrxr2]

@@RatchetRalphOfficial it's a series 2 though...

[@RatchetRalphOfficial]

@@mrxr2 no its not edit: im deffinate

[@mrxr2]

@@RatchetRalphOfficial ok buddy, just do a google image search of "S1 RS Turbo" and compare the pics to the car in the vid, then try a search for "S2 RS Turbo".

[@RatchetRalphOfficial]

@@mrxr2 my dad has an rs turbo s2 in black basically im dumb

[@djmhyde]

RS all the time, lightier, independent rear suspension, and a lot of other qualities, not a surprise, the escort was a best selling car for a decade or more... RS, The true legend, proud to own one

[@krawcuk-rawcu3363]

Kadett GSI 💪👍

[@AS4DA]

I've driven a white MK4 RS. I loved it. It smoked a barrel of oil trough the exaust when i was on full throttle but i was always ahead of gti, vtec and gse. The 80 and early 90ties was a nice time. Cars with 900kg and nice power without computers to tell you how to drive. thx for this nice vid!

[@david111davies]

I still recall the days of RS Turbo`s going round and round town with dump valves trying to pull underage girls all day.

[@quickjack9140]

dave davies A gathering of 25 year old males congregates outside the local " Spar" to compare their RST with someone elses RS1600i with their fake Lacoste tshirt - spitting and smoking of course, whilst discussing who is hotter, Vicki or Natasha.

[@gavster023]

dave davies which sadly is still better days than kids sitting in mcdonalds on there phones wishing they could afford an Rs or even afford insure a 1.2

[@34A1A]

NONCE

[@Flewkey1337]

I've never seen before such a British conversation, have a nice day. :D

[@simonloveless1823]

Ford escort Rs turbo they are beautiful cars indeed i like them there is a lot of them about. Lots of them have been restored back to glory again.

[@richardtattersall647]

plus these car's didn't weigh anything either which helps acceleration

[@RAVETOR]

the gsi sound love it

[@haendel2004]

Tiff oversteered the Kadett clearly more often than the Escort. Enough to "fabricate" a 0,5 second lead.

[@mykincadult-store1219]

Or the astra just couldn't cope over that crest as well as the rst did.

[@mortenfrosthansen84]

It brings me a little comfort, that my Mk IV S2 isn't the only Escort where the interior rattles like mad

[@AetiusPraetorian]

I remember these hot hatches back in the late 80's to 91. The Germans reviewed them a bit differantly though. They had the Golf GTI16v, Escort RSturbo and the Kadett E GSi16v. GTI 129hp, RSturbo 132hp, and the GSi 150hp. The GSi beat the Golf and the Escort in speed and performance. Also the Escort was disqualified due to the lack of a catalic converter which the other 2 had. The GTI did the worst due to its lack of areo dynamics. Heck the standard GSi (2.0i 115hp) ran faster than the GTI16v back then! The Escort was still sharp though.

[@allothernamesbutthis]

GSi was mk3 onwards

[@AetiusPraetorian]

Not in Germany. The Kadett GSi (in Britain the Astra GTE) came out in Germany in September 1984 until October 1991.

[@tomforrest7814]

so we found out that the RS turbo may have been a fraction quicker on a specifically winding short track? the Astra GTE would leave it for dead in a drag race

[@adrianog960]

i had a escort rs turbo. a friend had a kadett gsi 16v. the opel (vauxhall) has the better engine.

[@ltaper]

In a nova 👍

[@darringoodbrand6603]

I've drove both of these car's and they were both really good the Belmont Sri was quick back then to

[@StayPuft80]

Wish car programs were still like this instead of shit acting, shot story lines and just shit!

[@Ash-928]

Was that a cheeky dig at Top Gear? If so, I agree.

[@tonidmc]

no, the scs was a Ford mechanical brake system that was far less effective than abs, by now most of the RS Turbos had this system disconnected

[@fargogemini694]

Don’t know what RS you’ve got but i’ve had 4 all with ABS & PAS

[@RocketRaven]

@vrbanjacbosanac Which rusts more? i love both cars, i miss our old ford scorpio we had a while ago and i like the looks of the kadett gsi

[@gdfggggg]

Back in the day I had a chipped Scort and A mate had a chipped GTE. The Scort pissed all over it. Though the Scort kept doing gearboxes.

[@WvdV1984]

Escort wins :-) I've got one myslef, handling is a bit hard somtimes, but the car has outruns most of it's rivals of the time :) Golf GTI, Kadett GSI, BMW 325 enz. Plus, you never get bored in the car, driven many cars, fast cars, the escort stays interesting, even if it breaks down sometimes. And about the power... A chip, a bit more boost, bigger exhaust, and you've got around 170 bhp and proper torque from 2500 rpm... Beat that with your 16V :-p

[@sonoldmic]

@keidicko CVH is an ok engine, the bottleneck of the RS is the management system. ZVH is a zetec bottom used to get a bigger bore size, so you can use a bigger turbo and get less lag. My pistions did 150k km before i swapped them. So that ain't halfbad with the thougth of how it has been driven. But the Vauxhall is more reliable i'll agree to that :)!

[@ebddenby8439]

And that children is why they invented power steering and abs to make it heavier and less responsive not to mention lowered stopping ability

[@Sanyey]

I was about to leave the same comment :D The GSi was the fastest in its time.. everyone knows that.. it supposed to beat all GTI-s and everything!! GSi for life (As for me, Im the luck owner of the 44447-th Kadett GSi Cabrio by Bertone :P) GSi 4 LIFE!!!

[@myAWDgst]

I love those cars

[@tk0400]

Did i heard right, only 20000 miles driven Astra??

[@ThasoneR]

DOS BUENAS MAQUINAS MITICAS Y BUÉN PILOTO

[@djmhyde]

@pb8v well, i don't think so, watch the video again....

[@sonoldmic]

@Englandforever91 This man knows his Fords!

[@sparrowlt]

I would like to see a GSi 16V vs Golf mk2 GTI 16V duel...

[@searchingshropshire]

If any body hasnt noticed the the title says kedett GSI when its a GTE the GSI was mk3 and turbo'd but still would not beat a RST in a month of sundays

[@MarcusTDM]

No the Astra GTE was also badge as a Kadette GSI by Opel. The Mk3 was called Astra GSI by vauxhall because Opel had dropped the Kadette name. Vauxhall dropped the GTE badge in favor of the more fashionable at the time GSI badge.

[@gfagary]

MarcusTDM Here in South Africa our 8 valve GSI's had those 14 inch rims like on the Opel Tiff was driving. The 16V models had more stylish 15 inch rims. We also had a homologation version for a racing series here called "Group N" called a GSI 16V "Superboss" Only difference was the Cosworth cylinder head (170 BHP) , 15 inch Borbet rims and a LSD F20 gearbox. People want crazy prices for good examples these days as only 500 were made. You can probably find KZbin videos of these cars going against BMW's own homologation special called a 325iS which had a 2.7 liter straight six. Epic racing!!!!

[@Nothing-to-noone]

Would still take a SuperBoss over an iS though. :D

[@searchingshropshire]

That makes sense.

[@denkaz8]

opel kadett the best

[@Spierdalator126p]

I know :) but sadly he sold it before I was born :(

[@jonathandonne1432]

Both cool cars but do prefer the RS turbo. Tiff was wrong, the RS turbo had ABS as standard, along with a limited slip differential.

[@getin348]

yeah i had ABS on my 1990 - i had my car lowered which ment the back needed adjusting as the breaks would lock!

[@Spierdalator126p]

My dad had one. He made a rallye car out of this. Does that count? ._.

[@peter_dc2rx]

thx

[@Sanyey]

I dunno.. I had the oppurtunity to change cluch on the newer version of the Escort.. and on the testdrive, I found it quite uncomfortable.. the interior isnt friendly, nothing interesting in it, nothing works like it supposed to.. the sitting pos. is terribly hing (not adjustable), the stwheel is to small.. I happen to own an Opel Kadett 2.0 GSi cabrio.. its also isnt high quality.. but it feels much more friendly to sit in, not to mention drive it ;) Opel ALL the way!!

[@Gkiekas]

the rs turbo was a really nice car!!!!!Less power but faster than the astra!

[@LEIJONALEIJONA-ue3qm]

I WISHD ID HAD SOME DAY RS TURBO AND KADETT GSI BLACK AND RED

[@Nothing-to-noone]

I'm not sure that a 1.6i Kadette will be an match for say the Sierra RS Cosworth... I'm an Opel fan, but chill though...

[@MrKadettpower]

Yeahr Opel Kadett GSI 16V alis Vauxhall Astra II GTE 16V this is a good old german Car-Power

[@myszaa93]

20 16v gsi rules ofc !!

[@FirstOnRaceDayCapri2904]

RS Turbo is the best, First On Race Day

[@lucakrieger5674]

GSI en anner Dimensiuuun

[@stanczyk11111]

Kadett GSI cabrio "by Bertone" - that's the car ! .or Ascona..:)

[@xRxixcxhxtxexrx]

I remember having a race with an Astra gte on a straight road and i lost but against my boss in his fast vectra down a country lane he couldent keep up lol

[@bigbobbreakdance]

i would say that was a good pumpin anyday.. id have the escy.

[@tonidmc]

hahahahahah The European escort doesn't share any panel or part with an american Ford car and the cvh turbo engine was designed in Germany.... sooo nice comment dude

[@grantmail4112]

✌️😎

[@djmhyde]

the escort isn't chipped, he is just better =)

[@alistairscott137]

RS every time.

[@dilonalexander5981]

opel is the best

[@djmhyde]

GSI FOREVER..... forever behind of course....

[@markussauer3605]

Escort RS 👍

[@djmhyde]

FastFords FTW!!!!!

[@bfcricky]

The Ford is collectors item, the Astra is a piece of shit

[@alfisti93]

Hahaha. Why would anybody in his right mind spend money on a crappy escort Mk III? Stupid fanboy.

[@bfcricky]

Because they're cool looking classics...

[@alfisti93]

bfcricky Mk I definitely! Mk II to a high degree. Mk III not so much. (not yet!) and they're FWD. If you knew what the astra/kadett 16valve engine was capable of (especially at its time) you wouldn't call it "shit".

[@bfcricky]

What about the RS Cosworth, they're worth around £20,000, that's what you call a classic, The Vauxhall brand just isn't good enough, I'm not saying Ford is brilliant, but the RS brand is very desirable.

[@alfisti93]

bfcricky As you mentioned Cosworth: The GSi 16valve engine (dubbed c20xe) was codeveloped with cosworth. It was a dedicated racing engine, heavily detuned for legal road use. The Cosworth Ford's are very nice and interesting collectors items, no doubt about that. They were always special. But the Opel Ascona/Manta 400 (with a 2.4 inline 4, 16valve) very easily exceeds 50 000 Euros. Every company has got its special gems.

[@keidicko]

@Englandforever91 RS turbo on the test IS NOT STANDARD it is nearly 200bhp and still only just beats the STANDARD Astra !

[@peternufc1981]

Its not a gsi

[@Gkiekas]

i am sorry by the cadett

[@Sanyey]

@jimikestell1 lol? :D no one has a clue about the Brand Ford?:DD the european fords are developed in Germany.. jus as it is with Opel.. no matter who is the owner, both of them are German!

[@burns985]

@vrbanjacbosanac agreed mate :)

[@trajanaugustus8783]

BS review, in Germany the Kadett GSi16v stomped a hole in the Escort RS-turbo in top speed, 0-100k, and handling. Also the Opel had a catalytic converter ,ABS, power steering and other modern devices unlike the antique Escort. Stopped liking this non-driver after he threw the comparison between a RAV4 MkII vs the X-trail (2004 review) while doing a simple hill climb. Biased reviewer.

[@maxwillferris9731]

Put it against a Kadett Superboss

[@maka1022]

nice escort :D

[@boogie153]

Der Kadett war damals schon häßlich und er wird mit den Jahren nicht schöner. Der RS ist zeitlos schön.... :-)

[@Demolidor4ever]

0:19 woow O.O

[@swakke3232]

that's not an astra, that's a kadett

[@gtlee16vt]

at least the GTE dont break after giving it a thrashing all fords are soft and breakdown all the time! the RS that Tiff is using is chipped at the least, the GTE is standard. GTE RULE

[@GEXiK333]

ESCORT FOREVA!!!!

[@MrKrstaa]

GSI RULEZ :D

[@Leela0214]

OPEL POWER FOR EVER!!!!!!!!

[@peter_dc2rx]

is the ford rwd ??

[@murilo.d87]

kadett, is the car! scort is the market car! hhuhu

[@RocketRaven]

@vrbanjacbosanac i like it, its compact, cute ^^ and good for a student

[@Sanyey]

@Englandforever91 yepp.. but talking about handling.. do ya realise that the Rs had alloy-s on??? my GSi cabrio is turning like a fuckin gokart with 205/45 r16 tyres on Borbet A 16" rims.. put thoose on the GSi an it would win tha fuck!! OPEL Kadett GSi Cabrio by Bertone 4 evah!

[@Sanyey]

@haendel2004 Lol.. Put 205mm wide tyres on the GSi, and then it will turn like a fuckin Go-cart!! (like my GSi Cabrio does ;) ) OPEL 4 LIFE!!

[@LB83.]

U mean gm 4 life

[@stejohno]

@vrbanjacbosanac its got american owners

[@francskyline]

I have a gsi 8v.it most fast in the circuit than rs turbo. El 8v es mas rapido en aceleracion.el 16v es para velocidad punta.el 8v le gana al rs turbo en circuito.8v 130bhp 4ever

[@bobjones-hs5nc]

But are not cvh engines really shit?

[@tomholvey6910]

The Astra was always rubbish at handling the rs stuck to the tarmac like glue

[@marcnewman6632]

Gte pisses all over the rs, ive had both, id have the astra all day, my gte use to leave my mates rs i use to laugh at him

[@maka1022]

this Ford is German not American and i love it

[@mehmetaltinkaya]

İmmer GSi16V

[@BiGBoiiGrIbBeR]

front mate

[@95xXxdude]

what the fuck is he on about no abs rs turbo was first car to have abs brakes

[@lewis72]

Nope. No ABS. It had a lim. slip diff but no ABS.

[@ashleyjames7718]

@@lewis72 the series 2 rs turbo did have ABS it was belt driven from the drive shafts

[@GTIsoso]

escort rs turbo pooooooowwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa forever the best

[@opelkadettgsi1]

opel never die say bye to ford

[@lee2217]

Astra chassis wasnt up to the power Escort all the way

[@Sanyey]

@vrbanjacbosanac actually its German too :P but fuck Ford anyways XD

[@toastriton]

I live in Brazil and say: opel, chevrovet etc,: are the best! best engine, best gear, as the video proves it! On the other side, we have the escort, very dangerous suspension car, this one sucks!

[@MrRs1975]

rs the only way

[@hansonak]

GSi !!! Fuck the rest !

[@Mirage8v]

Calibra driver is calling bullshit here. The ford isn't chipped, Tiff can just handle it better.

[@djmhyde]

@30davidkim mecanica fragil??? no sabes de que estas hablando, ESTE ES UN ESCORT RS TURBO NO ES UNA MIERDA DE XR3 BRASILEÑO,

[@steventuning32]

gsi

[@keidicko]

@Englandforever91 Sorry i thought for a minute you said the the RS was more reliable ! The CVH is the worst engine ever made they are shit ! They have piston slap after about 30k where as the c20xe is just starting to free up after 150k how can you compare the two ? A CVH is that good that everybody does ZVH motors because they are so good !

[@terry85t81]

My uncle had a rs turbo for many years. With 90k on the clock never had any issues

[@danny04666]

fords rule

[@sparrowlt]

...... riiighhhtttttttt

[@ASTROKADETT95]

KADETT E RULEZ hehehe

[@Zeroes81]

Escort :-D W i turbo :-D