HSR2.6 rappa firefly in moc

[@ihyouka]

Well, Rappa’s performance is going to drop once the MoC goes back to non-hp shared enemies and less enemies per wave

[@grial0102]

Btw, pure fiction still remains

[@Cadmun]

Fraudfly stans hyperventilating right now 😂

[@ihyouka]

@@grial0102 Yeah but I think pure fiction is doable with just herta + himeko

[@ihyouka]

@@Cadmun I don’t think so, although I still haven’t decided what superbreak dps I’m going to pull for, I think Firefly is the best option

[@Lupper0205]

The same goes to Firefly

[@yofukashidayo]

so my take on the three break units we have boothill > firefly > rappa for 1-3 targets rappa > firefly > boothill 5 targets ff looks like a good all rounder since she works everywhere

[@lurkera7351]

Its bh > ff > rappa at 1-2 targets ff > bh > rappa at 3 targets rappa > ff > bh at 4 - 5 targets

[@yofukashidayo]

@@lurkera7351 is it? seeing boothill feats against ff on puppet trio he's either equal or better than ff 3 targets

[@lurkera7351]

@@yofukashidayo then do u believe that bh will clear puppet faster than ff if its the only boss with no trash mobs first wave? U seem to forgot that he needs 3 stacks first to deal his potent dmage thus making him slower in clearing 3 targets.

[@lurkera7351]

@@yofukashidayo i bet the builds must be the eagle set + ddd hyperspeed bronya + bh which is designed for 0 cycling but im talking about the average built bh versus an average built ff on moc.

[@yofukashidayo]

@@lurkera7351 well yeah, he did in MoC. don't use hypothetical that haven't happened yet. there are 1 cost 0 cycles on KZbin. before you say they're unrelateable, xolze tried 1 cost with firefly and couldn't do it. she needed E1 to do it without ruan mei, so 2 cost is her limit

[@TerraTheWise]

FF missing three speed for that extra turn in the first cycle

[@ihyouka]

Ruan Mei gives her that speed thanks to one of her traces

[@TerraTheWise]

@@ihyouka No you still want 155 speed on the character page. 155 speed lets her move 4 times in the first cycle. Here she only moved 3 times.

[@noval720]

​@@ihyoukano bro 😀

[@ihyouka]

@@TerraTheWise Wait fr? So where does ruan mei’s extra speed go? Great game hoyoverse!!!

[@Daverf1f]

​@@noval720 it's 154 not 155 but still true

[@vachytronx9647]

Rappa You are coming with me!

[@butterfly-f6c]

Well unrelated to topic but firefly's looks more of a imaginary character while rappa looks like a fire element character

[@yudhaaditiaekaputra6249]

all you need is E2 firefly

[@elijah1931]

Done

[@asrar_b]

FF speed was less than the needed speed for extra action per cycle, not activating HMC ult at the start before breaking the enemy, not using lingsha skill to help break the enemy. Effectively they ended at the same cycle with all these misplaying. And mov was aoe favored so still FF is better.

[@Secret123890]

Same same, skipping Rappa

[@unknownorganism69]

seems like she does great dmg in moc and insane dmg in pf with break buff

[@27Ganon]

she seems pretty bad for MoC if she's barely outperforming ff in a cycle catered so heavily to her, and she seems worse than argenti/jade in PF Jade seems significantly better all around, she performs better than Rappa (and everyone else) in this MoC too

[@isaacavila6094]

The biggest issue I have with this showcase is firefly is using the super break set while rappa is using the thief set, the super break set has defense ignore while thief doesn’t. So she’s barely outperforming firefly without being optimal

[@Daverf1f]

​@@isaacavila6094 Firefly is missing the 154 SPD mark here, it lets her go one more time on the first cycle and it's a 5 enemies MoC which is happening for the first time in a long while

[@isaacavila6094]

They have ruan Mei so she’ll be above 154 in actual combat so she’s fine there, but my point still stands firefly is using the Calvary set so she has defense ignore while rappa just has thief so the dmg comparison isn’t gonna be as accurate they should have given rappa Calvary as well to show the comparisons with them both having defense ignore not just firefly

[@Daverf1f]

​@@isaacavila6094 By 154 spd i mean 154 spd out of battle, in battle it's going to be 164 spd with a few decimels behind, then firefly can move 4 times on the first cycle And thief is much better on Rappa then you'd think because most of her damage is from the ult and it has a 160 cost. In 5 targets fightsblike this the energy it gives is incredibly valuable Also my point still stands, it's a MoC catered to Rappa with 5 enemies with all imaginary weakness, this is the first time in almost a year and also remember that Rappa does not have imaginary weakness implant so she's significantly weaker in non-imaginary weak contents since her weakness break efficiency is halved

[@GreenScreen_41]

I'm getting both feixiao and lingsha, so I'll pass and if lucky sunday might be on patch 2.7

[@bishalbarman1160]

Well we will see after the nerfs ._.

[@mrJones-ii7sh]

OK I don't really care who's better but you could atleast give them the same speed and break stats

[@haikalhafiy2431]

Why need to choose when you can just use both.

[@SwieczkaNiweaniewierzeDarek]

As in the same team? Can't do. Firefly is a hypercarry and needs every one of these support units.

[@tazyjump5377]

What was that firefly gameplay...

[@unendingvoid]

Firefly doesn't have enough speed, and a few misplays not using skill with Lingsha. Would've cleared faster. If this was E1S0 FF, this MoC would've been cleared even faster even when it's catered to rappa

[@noval720]

why spd firefly no 154 😃

[@solubeasts]

I still skip rappa

[@Cadmun]

Firefraud about to fall out of the meta so hard. Tier 1, here she comes 👎

[@blid2352]

As always Midfly showing that she don"t deserve to be in T0 tier

[@samimsardar4058]

they sucked by making her erudition