Seat Ibiza! Giugiaro hatchback masterclass

Giorgetti Giugiaro refined his Volkswagen Golf thinking with the Seat Ibiza, allowing the newly independent Spanish car manufacturer to gain an important foothold in new markets.
System Porsche engines also helped but what are these Spanish hatchbacks like to drive? I was delighted to finally find out. #testdrive #carreview #spanish
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[@waynekerrgoodstyle]

I still have a rear windscreen for one of these for free if anyone is interested, Collection in Scotland.

[@davyturner9187]

I've got a rear bumper for the Face-lift model in the shed too

[@waynekerrgoodstyle]

@@davyturner9187 Hey, if we get more people commenting saying they have parts we might just be able to build a "new" one 🤣

[@clasicoscarreteras]

In Spain we have a magnificent climate where many of these Ibiza continue on our roads with good results without being the perfect car. 👍

[@marcelhandsome6042]

There's a timeless elegant styling beauty to Giorgetto Giugiaro's designs a lesson to be learnt from modern manufacturers. I love his other designs of that era: the 1983 Fiat Uno, 1979 Lancia Delta, 1981 Isuzu Piazza etc...

[@daviestewart2510]

I've always liked the styling of the first Ibiza, especially the wheels, they are gorgeous!

[@jimmyj1969]

Yes, these wheels are timeless classics!

[@CauliflowerMcPugg]

They used to catch my eye back in the 80s. I used to walk past a dealership on the way from school and always had time to stop and look.

[@taunuslunatic404]

As a Spaniard I'm glad you liked it.

[@matthewsewell6234]

My neighbours son had one in bright orange it never fired up in its first try but by god it was gorgeous! I love how the back end looks taller than the front.

[@nickhewitt2950]

I’m the proud new owner of a 1989 Ibiza Special. Very nippy of a 903cc! I’ve lusted over these and the Malaga’s for years so very happy to finally get my hands on one!

[@markotango54]

Still looking sharp almost 40 years later, love those Alloys too

[@EyesWideOpen61]

Thanks Ian, hugely educational. I always thought this was on Volkswagen platform, probably just because it looks like it. I didn’t realize they developed some thing on their own between the Fiat and Volkswagen years, never realized there was a gap there

[@HubNut]

Turns out there's more Fiat in it than I really realised!

[@EyesWideOpen61]

@@HubNut There’s a bit of Ritmo in there

[@staffordian]

The only thing I remember about the Mk1 Ibiza, when it first came out, was a complaint in a road test report that it didn't have roof gutters, so when the door was opened in the rain, you could get a shower of water off the roof. It was blamed on being designed for a warm sunny Spanish climate 🙂

[@glmm2001]

My first car was a 1987 GLX, posh model with electric windows, radio with 4 speakers and wide alloy wheels. The alloys made the unassisted steering terrible and my steering wheel was always off-center due to the real physical exertion it took to move the wheels lock to lock. The cheap versions had very narrow tires which made steering butter smooth. Mine had a fuel injected 1.2 engine and produced 63bhp, quite modest horsepower for the vehicle weight. It was revvy enough, but driving in a conventional road you had to plan ahead carefully any overtake as the car had no spare power once committed. The car was very spacious and heavy as it was based in the Ronda, the Spanish version of the Ritmo/Strada. SEAT needed a new car as soon as possible and using the Ronda saved a lot of time and allowed to better position the car in the market as way bigger than the Fiesta or the Polo and with a very competitive price. After SEAT broke off from FIAT, the Italians sued SEAT and asked to stop the production of the Ronda (Ritmo/Strada based) and the Marbella (based on the Panda).However, SEAT used a Ronda were all the new parts were painted in bright yellow and won as the judges deemed the Ronda different enough from the Italian original. The worst part of the car was interior furnishings. At 7 years old, the cheap interior plastics were crumbling away. The control satellites failed one after another and the door seals fell off. The radio was a “Punto Azul” (Blaupunk) included with the car and also failed, as the internal fan. I kept it until the engine (only 53.000km) started to overheat for no discernible reason and I traded it for a brand new Peugeot 206 which, at the time (2000), looked like a spaceship with CD, aircon and power steering! A few months later I saw my Ibiza on the road, apparently repaired and kept running for a few more years. It was, by the way, the only car I ever owned with a rust spot in one of the rear doors

[@timyoung7788]

I owned 2 examples. 1.2 Designer - base model - and a 1.2 GLX with the Polo dashboard. Both examples had auto chokes from new, but there was a kit to change it to manual choke as with this example. Very poor running from cold, ages to warn up and the indicator switch kept on sticking. Next car was a ZX Aura diesel. But returned to Seat in 2014, owning a Leon and Ibiza.

[@villejussila1599]

These things were so overlooked when I was a kiddo in the 90's. It's pure sadness they all rusted away and weren't loved. The same can be said about the Fiat Uno. I had personally no idea the mk1 Seat Ibiza was this cool!

[@HowToSaveMoneyOnCarRepairs]

I didn't think there were any left on the roads. I had one of these Seat Ibizas, and i had a Malaga as well..! Both were Black..!👍👍

[@Invisibleman7]

I’ve always wanted a mk1 Ibiza. Lovely cars. I ended up with a M plate mk2 1,4i, which was was a cracking little car. Excellent video as always Ian and Carly

[@stuartmcdonald5772]

Had one of these. The 1.5, an absolute hoot to drive. Rev counter never went past 2k mark regardless of speed. The interior was just like this one, I remember the indicator stalk burned out and it cost the princely sum of £15 to have a new bought and fitted at a local garage. Great vid and brought back some great memories for me.

[@davidminns9799]

Had one as a hire car in Greece in 1990. I wish I could find one now as a classic 👍 another excellent informative review from Mr Hubnut 👍

[@NickSmith-gu8vy]

I actually had a Malaga back in the ‘90s. It was the top of the range 1.5SX in a vibrant metallic green with electric windows and lots of other goodies, some of which worked. It was a good car but eventually contributed to the extinction of the species when it ate its Porsche designed gearbox. I wish I still had it. I’d love to see another.

[@H4lminator]

I think it is a very beautiful car. Also, the wheels fit the car perfectly. This is what I like about 80's styling.

[@James-ld2jc]

Love the controls, heading into Citroën style bonkers ideas. Stylish design too. I had forgotten all about these cars. Thank you for the review Ian

[@alastairwilson457]

Deliciously understated styling

[@Grimwriggler]

lovely cars Ian. I use as a daily a mk 1 Cordoba Estate, quite rara now here in Spain, probably non existant in the UK by now. mine is now on 400,000k

[@alanradford2618]

My first Seat experience was the Marbella followed by a 1.2 Malaga, which was a superb car and never let me down over 4 years of ownership and probably around 40,000 miles of motoring. Two ibizas followed before my love for Seat faded as they became VW's in all but name. Excellent video, brought back some happy motoring memories.

[@j-medsystems7142]

Back in Finland these came with headlamp wipers (some form of headlamp washing equipment was mandatory at the time). I always loved the styling but as far as I remember owners complained of winter driving issues, poor heating/demisting, starting problems etc.

[@Vectrexman]

This certainly brought back memories! I had the facelifted '93 last-of-the-line MK1 1.2i as a first car. It was a bit rudimentary and it was indeed very noisy, especially with a cheap aftermarket exhaust - at 2000rpm it sounded like I was redlining it! Great little car though!

[@Strike86]

I love the way it scuttles down the road with its bum up in the air. The grey and red stripe looks ace too.

[@richardbraithwaite4865]

My old car. It had a terrible Pierburg carb with auto choke when I bought it, I got the last Weber carb conversion kit in the UK at some expense and it greatly improved things. It's 35 years old, it was a fun and individual little thing but my initial issues kinda put me off it. Got a great home now though.

[@smhorse]

Pierburg carbs were terrible. We had the same problem with the one in a 1989 VW Jetta. Conversion to Weber carb was like the difference between night and day.

[@stevenpaterson9383]

I owned a 1989 1.2 petrol back in the late 90's. Paid £250 for it, great little car

[@davidclayton4396]

I had a black 1989 2door with the Fiat engine, it threw a main bearing and I remember getting a second hand Yugo 45engine straight swap,although the distributor was in a different position -when cars were simple to swap,out an engine.

[@anthonygregg862]

A fabulous review. Lovely example there Ian. My friend in college had one back in the day and she used to take us on blasts and equal blasts in my 1.1 AX. Both Basic spec cars but lots of fun back then. Memories come flooding back when you havent seen one in years. Good Times indeed !

[@chunkybeats79]

I love this car beautiful and underrated. Always wanted one

[@scalecrawlnl]

Fun review of a great car, looking smart in black paint. Appreciate the styling very much. Cool straight lines. Thank you HubNut and beautiful backdrop to film. Cheers 👍😊

[@jetblack6953]

Thanks Ian quite a classy, very attractive little car.

[@gg_vard]

Oh ❤ love the mk1 Ibiza. Excellent Giugaro boxy design, Porsche System engine, and I even more liked as my mother owned a black facelift

[@TrevorBuick]

Excellent, loved these, especially the 1.5SXI mark 1, can't be many left

[@stuhollyhead4294]

My brother in law got an immaculate 1.5 sxi in white, 38k rare as rocking horse poo

[@Spankfrencer]

Wow I had a white H registration Ibiza Sxi, that I bought as a demonstrator, perhaps this was the same car :-) @@stuhollyhead4294

[@alfsmith4936]

​@@stuhollyhead4294I had a white one. I stupidly got rid of it for a Golf. I haven't seen a MK1 sxi for sale in the u.k, for over a decade.

[@stuhollyhead4294]

@@alfsmith4936 Mals is white, H126DFD

[@Farney-gy1qo]

This takes me back to 1993, my friend's first car was a Graphite colour Ibiza. I was so envious of his "Engineered by Porsche" sticker on the tailgate. My first car was a £200 1977 Geranium red 2cv6 not even a Club.

[@simonhodgetts6530]

Very nice - I always liked the mk1 Ibiza. Agree with you on the styling - one of Giugiaro’s best small car designs imho.

[@ben_jam]

Love those wheels !!

[@jamesb3700]

I learnt to drive in the Mk1 1.5 Sxi, it was a nice car.

[@alfsmith4936]

Me too. From what I remember, they were great cars. Faster than a Golf GTI but the seats were too slippery for the grip. I used to worry about sliding over to the passenger side on a hard right. 😂

[@Bongo4611]

Absolutely love these.

[@daniellee9015]

Absaloutly brilliant video ian miss hubnut ❤❤️👍👍what an amazing little car absaloutly brilliant

[@plym1969]

Another brilliant review Ian. Thanks.

[@alastairward2774]

I can't think that I've ever seen one in N Ireland, I think I'd remember something that looked like a mini Golf.

[@iainmacleod4007]

I remember road testing the SXI version of these in 1990 as a replacement for my XR2. It was rough and ready for a new car and the system Porsche engine was disappointing, more of a marketing ploy rather than advanced engineering. After I opened the bonnet and found missing bolts and loose bolts scattered round the engine bay I did not buy. Subsequently I worked on several in the 1990’s. They were rusty and very troublesome. The dealer tried to describe them as being of VW quality, in my opinion most of the running gear was FIAT at the time.

[@alfsmith4936]

They were quicker and handled better than a Golf but I agree, they were a bit rough and ready.

[@scottishcarenthusiastsandtrain]

Excellent review Ian and Carly, i remember my Primary 7 teacher having a J Plate facelift one of these with System Porsche graphics on the side back in 1994/1995, i never realised Porsche were responsible for the Zafira seats that fold down.

[@rjft7003]

For a split second, I thought it was my ex-neighbour Seat Ibiza SXI 😂 Two years ago, I visited the block where I lived for so many years in Portugal. My neighbour's Ibiza SXI was still there in the garage, abandoned for almost 20 years, exactly like the one Ian's is now testing. The Ibiza was an interesting alternative to the popular Uno, Fiesta, Polo, AX, 205, Corsa, and R5 or Supercinque. Was roomier and with excellent visibility. The steering and suspension system derived from the Fiat 128/Ritmo/Strada was heavy, and the suspension was bouncy, uncomfortable. The "System Porsche" was interesting for the show off but only for that purpose. MK2 Ibiza was an improvement in comparison.

[@redlineste4283]

Remember the System Porsche stripes on the sides when they where new.

[@siwynjones]

Before I passed my test in the early 90s, I’d pegged one of these as top of my list for a first car: cheap to buy/run/insure, but looked cool in a way other small cars didn’t, apart from maybe a Y10/Uno. I’d underestimated the cost, so used to look enviously at drivers of them as I chugged along in my battered orange Skoda Rapid.

[@twobob8585]

Its strange how things change, I would not have been seen dead in a Rapid in the day but would love have one now.

[@stiglnsborgsaxbjrn3392]

@@twobob8585Even then model names could be somehow inflated. Skoda “Rapid”? Well, ok, it was rapid to rust. But, to be honest, I have been told there was a Skoda Rapid in the early ages before World War II, but that was quite another matter. Later in the eighties Daewoo was sold in Europe as Chevrolet. Some promotion one must say.

[@petroldrinker]

Great video, I loved that. In the mid 1990s when I was shopping for my first car I used to wait for the newsagents to open at 6am on Autotrader day. I'd then do to the cafe and trawl the ads earmarking what was worth a phone call. The local car dealers would be doing the same thing. I really wanted an Ibiza. They were so pretty. I never got one. Loved watching this though, took me back to the cafe with my Autotrader. Thanks guys.

[@MajorKlanga]

I would have thought that Spain joining the European single market was the primary reason for Seat producing its own cars. The Ibiza carried over the floorpan and suspension from the Ritmo/Ronda I think, including the transverse rear leaf spring.

[@chrisford4009]

What a lovely car I like very much and a very enjoyable video cheers Ian and carly

[@MaximilianvonPinneberg]

A stunning looking car.

[@MOSSFEEN]

Its MAD to think of a Spare Wheel being stored in the engine bay when nowadays you cant even get one as standard on most cars

[@10rGreenninja]

I remember these being launched and always loved the look, never owned one though

[@stevencampbell1150]

My brother had a metallic blue 5 door one of these. It had front fogs built into the grill which I suspect were aftermarket which my brother called "Bertie Fisher mode"! I should explain Bertie Fisher was a Northern Irish rally driver. He loved it and sold it in the end for £100 as it had seen considerably days at that point. It was a 1.2 that he had.

[@AllTorque]

This was one of Dicky Braithwaites old cars ... remember photographing this on the way back from Washington. Have to admit I had a real fondness for these and this was a lovely thing!

[@StevensPaul]

Ah, I just picked up a 1990 Seat(🪑💺) Ibiza Cronos four door. The fellow I bought it from had shipped it in from Portugal in 2/19 just in time for the for the "Chi-Com-Sniffle" which meant he wasn't able to get hold the car until nearly October of '19. I forked over $4400 for it💰. Mine's a LHD car. Love the Wiper👀😜!

[@Spankfrencer]

I wish I still had my F registration 1.2 Seat Ibiza Perla Blanca Del Sol (White Pearl of the Sun) Special Edition or the H registration Seat Ibiza 1.5 Sxi Hot Hatch that followed it. Beautiful cars and just a little bit different :-) Thank you for reminding me how beautiful these cars were and appreciating them too.

[@davyturner9187]

I had the H reg SXi, too. Mine was H539AVL, a great little car

[@Trinet-TA]

That’s a blast from the past! I was working for the company that did the vinyl graphic logos on these for SEAT UK, no idea why they didn’t have them from the factory?

[@robertsmelt6638]

Avery Aquila?

[@Trinet-TA]

No, just a small specialist graphics company that made vinyl cutting machines down in Bournemouth. We made the side stripes and ghosted Ibiza logo on the rear quarter.

[@Zeem4]

@@Trinet-TA Did they do the tailgate graphics too? My poverty-spec Ibiza Special had vinyl graphics instead of plastic badges on the tailgate, presumably because they were cheaper.

[@Trinet-TA]

@@Zeem4 quite possibly, yes… it was a long time ago though so can’t 100% remember.

[@Lewis_Treff97]

My dad had one like this. One car I've never seen in person before but would love too

[@35dononeill]

Porsche also designed a cab for a CASE International tractor. One of the differences with a modern car from an older onnis the wiperwssh. On a newish car, working the washer automatically turns on the wiper. Older cars, you have to turn the wipers on manually.

[@andyb3666]

Was pleased to see quite a few mk1 Ibizas on my last holiday in Spain, an earlier one like this & one of the last from ‘92.

[@TheOmegastoopreme]

I knew a girl at college in the 90s who had a ibeza. Nice car but the thing I will never forget was the totally mismatched drivers door which came from a breakers but whoever did it hadn't bothered to swap the door card, or lock for the original ones.. Red car with a blue door (with a stripe!) and brown door card but grey for the rest of the interior.....

[@drd6416]

Oh my gawd! Was on about these a bit back...used to lust after the racier models of these when I was a young un...this one's a beauty! Would like one for bezzin about in nowadays! Great vid Ian

[@frglee]

In a way it's quite amusing how VAG can produce so many different VW/Skoda/SEAT and even Audi models using the same engines, switchgear, platforms and similar bodyshells (but not identical designs). Whilst looking at modern Škoda Rapids a few years back to buy, I was surprised to be offered a similar but slightly different bodyshell SEAT Toledo alongside on a forecourt, being told by the salesman that they were basically the same car, and were built alongside each other at the Škoda factory in Mladá Boleslav in the Czech Republic.

[@hughliddle5233]

I had one exactly like that. My mates called it a Spanish Lada but I loved it. Great handling car. It would lift an inside rear wheel when cornering hard.

[@Mrmatteo08]

My dad had one till I was 7 years old. Bought used in 1986, somehow managed to resist till 1997, between engine problems and low quality interior that deteriorates only by watching them. But surely it was a good looking car, with a clean design e a great interior space/dimensions ratio

[@andypreston1524]

Holiday in Jersey, 1995.....I had a red 1993 1.2 SLXi as a hire car for a week.....I have never known a petrol car to consume as little fuel as this did. Incredible !!!!

[@tony-yp6qk]

another great video has always Ian and miss hubnut and hublets and hubmutts 👍

[@jonp5641]

My brother had a very distinctive metallic green one of these in the eighties. I always liked the wheels.

[@adamlee3772]

Never been in one but I always liked the look of these and the Malaga. Nice video mate.

[@mattw8332]

The parents of a friend of mine had an E reg 1.2 L in white. I think they owned it from new and then traded it in for a facelifted J reg 1.2 CLX 5 door in metallic blue. That one had a dodgy automatic choke. I was a passenger in it when said friend passed his driving test and was insured on it. They had a few more SEATs after that. I owned a mark 2 Ibiza 1.4 S (1999 T reg) during the 2000s and it was excellent. Very reliable and passed each MOT 1st time bar one time - down to a messed up number plate. The second best car I have owned. Coincidentally my aforementioned friend owned a facelifted mark 2 Ibiza (2000 W reg) around this time.

[@noeldown1952]

Loved the old SEAT and especially the Ibiza. Such a great looking car, the dash was different from anything else but so easy to use. And it drove so incredibly well.

[@phillipevans9414]

Very cool little car...I love me some "80's clean (boxy?) styling - there are certainly hints of VW and Fiat from the era, but also to my eyes, with those "turbine" style wheels, a very faint whiff of Lancia Delta. Thanks Ian and Carly for enlightening me on a car that I'm pretty sure we never got here in Australia. Keep up the great work, love your video's. Cheers!

[@1Haloninja]

Always loved the mk1s. Then again, when i was in my first year of college and they were bringing out the cupras i always wanted either an ibiza or cordoba with the cool swivelling badge tailgate release

[@alansmith1770]

A thoroughly nice little car. Sounded nice too.

[@kevinwhelan8126]

That slider switch for the wipers looks pretty naughty!

[@HM.Hatchet205]

I had the limited edition 1.7 sportline in red :)

[@marciocarvalho8975]

My first car!.... The sistem porsche Seat Ibiza 1st generation. Very económic in fuel and maintence! And very fun to drive. A very good car that i miss very much

[@660einzylinder]

In the late 80's I worked in a small garage with a Practical Used Car Rental franchise. We bought a pair of 1.2 Ibizas and a pair of 1.5 Malagas, all new because they were so cheap. Most renters returned them with nothing but praise, even for the switch layout. They didn't stay on our fleet long, the idea being, if you liked the rental car, you bought it. We also had Seat Terra van which was a Marbella (Panda) with a huge cube on the back, that was popular because most van hirers didn't go smaller than a Transit.

[@clivet3252]

I remember the top of the range Malagas had seats like sofas.

[@grrfy]

I have always liked the design of these.

[@pizzalover3]

Lovely camera work and editing guys 🙂

[@Ramcharger85]

❤. Beautiful car.

[@FourIntoOne]

Always had a soft spot for the early Ibizas. I had a mk 11 and it was so much better than the polo on which it was largely based - went way better, handled better, sounded better, was cheaper faster etc etc. Wish I still had it as IMHO it was a perfect blend of size/performance/equipment in its era.

[@mmareks9865]

Hi from SEAT Ibiza FR 2017 owner:) always want to try this model.. thanks👍

[@pmikey666]

I had a G reg 1.5GLX in five door trim. Switch gear was revised on mine with Normal Stalks ect and it was way faster than my mates Golf’s. Wish I kept it.

[@maciaml]

My father had one of those Seat Ibiza Mk1 when I was a child. It was white with a red stripe on the sides. It had no rear seatbelts, so i traveled free or over the lap of my mother during my first 4 years of life. He has a fairly good memory of that car. But in 1994 he sold it and got a Citroën ZX (which became a great family car for 25 years), much safer and comfortable.

[@Grimwriggler]

just had a quick look around and there are quite a few for sale here including 2 diesels for reasonable money. The diesel produces 55bph , i could be tempted I have a soft spot for Saet

[@chiel01237]

Where abouts are they for sale? Can’t find any

[@mikefadian6129]

I had a 1.5GLX 5 door for my 1st car in 1995. D642VRG.

[@lazer5582]

I had a 1.2 model,did many miles up n down motorways it never had an easy life always driven to the max but it never ever went wrong,they were good cars.

[@Stephenb033]

I’d love one of these.

[@klutchcustoms2428]

Memories of holidays in Spain! Usual hire car fodder!

[@S己G]

This has just made me notice that the Seat logo started with even more lines in between the top and bottom half of the S. This has 4, it later got reduced to two, and is currently just one if I recall. I suggest that a mk2 Toledo is reviewed sometime if you manage to find one!

[@rafaelrsc9640]

Mk2 Toledos are everywhere in Spain specially the TDI versions, mk1 Toledos aren't quite as common, in fact it's starting to get difficult to see one, specially pre-facelift ones.

[@davidking9707]

I haven't seen one of those in 30 odd years. I love the system Porsche engines. Very rare now, even more rare are the FIAT Regatta and Strada based Malagas. I hope to see you again at the NEC.

[@frostwise87]

Great Video. My granny had one when i was very young, same colour too. From memory I was sure the rear wheels were larger than the front

[@user-uy8xl4ey4m]

What a great video, you're lucky nothing broke during your drive 😅...brings back memories for me. I had an 1986 Ibiza for a year back in 1995! It was hands down the worst built car I have ever owned. Once the MOT ran out I scrapped it and replaced it with an Austin Metro which I kid not, felt like a Rolls Royce compared to the Ibiza! In one year I had: Alternator failure Handbrake failure (ratchet teeth all broke off one day) Drivers internal door handle failed Drivers window winder failed (spline teeth all rounded) Bolt that attaches clutch cable to pedal sheared Heater fan switch failed Headlight switch intermittent (all lights would turn off, usually at 60 mph ish on a dark B road) Speedometer failed Wiper failed A leak that filled the rear footwells with water in heavy rain On the plus side it was definitely character building 😂, and the 1.2 engine didn't miss a beat and always started first time (as long as the battery wasn't flat).

[@Jay-B1750]

What a gorgeous little car, a guys mum I used to go to school with had one in a lovely light blue with the black stripes along the bottom of the door and the diamond cut multi spoke wheels like this one, such a shame there's not many left

[@PhilMakesThings]

It was the sudden depressurisation of the hydraulics on my BX which lead me to own a hastily purchased Mk1 Ibiza bought locally on the criteria of nearest, cheapest, and had MOT. I paid a full £80 with a years MOT and 3 months tax (back when it was transferable). It would cut out entirely (total electrical loss) if you went over a big bump in the road, the speedo worked when it felt like it and would pull a fair bit under breaking. Knowing that it absolutely wouldn't pass a real MOT, I took it in for a test anyway. Garage called saying they were abandoning the test. The only calliper with any measurable function was the front nearside, it was so rusty underneath it was only the underseal holding it together in some places. The seatbelt anchors were pulled off by hand as a demonstartion of how rotten it was. Scrapped it for £100. It was a dicey but fun drive. Engine loved to be thrashed.

[@philtaylor9038]

I liked my AX which had what I called I called switches on a bean can design . Simple system now I have a Japanese car and get wipers instead of indicators wrong way round great vid Ian have a good weekend Hubbies.