HUGE One Piece TCG Banlist Update! This Changes EVERYTHING! Whitebeard & Nami BANNED!

[@legendofphil]

Let's ban OP-01 Nami the day that ST-10 is released, it's not like it's included in that deck. /s

[@yaden16]

That bugs me the most

[@owenmckenna1281]

I hate that I was like oh no rush zoros next then you remind me

[@MethodFigures]

Doesn’t it come out on the 10th

[@legendofphil]

@@MethodFigures Yep, which is the same day the Ban/Restricted List is being updated, these cards aren't banned yet.

[@StrawHatGamingg]

Who cares. Play another deck. This is what happens when people abuse the meta. No restrictions for East cause they don’t cry and play with more diversity I don’t recall the announcement stating the cards are banned forever.

[@AllDayML]

Bandai just listening to the loudest/most vocal minority

[@afly5017]

I don't get why they would put out such a wide ranging banwave just 1 month shy of the next set, which was bound to shake up the meta anyway. If they keep this up it will hurt the playerbase as well as card economy quite a bit. Especially if you think about asia getting by with little to no restrictions in cards :/

[@jean-michelmichaud2584]

simple: Very LOUD MINORITY of babies. Always is. Same reason we havea different banlist.

[@jacobmorin5835]

We have a lot of ygo player also and check the ygo card game différents it is because they cannot learn new deck 🥲

[@seanngd3534]

Well they have the Moby Dick and the one blue card ban, while we have those cards plus more red cards and a leader.

[@richardshiflett5181]

Cuz Zoro is cheap to build. They want players to invest in expensive decks. This banlist is born out of greed.

[@jacobmorin5835]

@@richardshiflett5181 doffy js good and it didn t cost a lot to make the deck ... Sur if you waited the deck to came out to buy the nami and all the stuff sad for you but if you had invested in those card like that it would have been i paid my nami film 5$ and less back and check thier price now 😐 the game is cheaper that the other game come on 😁

[@alexanderpappas7950]

as someone who played this game since the start, decks exist that beat red at a high % but people just do not want to play them. possibly cause they have bad match up vs other top decks. To ban stuff because people refuse to use decks that beat red is a bad thing for the game in my opinion.

[@merccc1]

Yup. The biggest issue is probably yellow. From what I have experienced and gathered from others + youtubers and so on. It seems many decks can compete against red, but the issue we run into is that yellow alone absolutely crushes them so they aren't really viable. Red was solid, but it had yellow to gatekeep all the decks that counter play against it. Made it even more dominant... I can understand the rest, but nami may be a bit much. Sigh...

[@richardshiflett5181]

Those decks are harder to build due to card scarcity. They did these red bans cuz Zoro is cheap to build and that hurts their bottom line.

[@rodrigozapata4783]

it´s so weird to think that a new player cannot use the new structure deck properly because of nami being banned, as a new player i expect to be able to use all the cards in there

[@franciswu6101]

It's not the ST1 nami it's the OP1 Nami

[@TheMrBadGuy101]

They can use it just not in a competition. How often do people bring a stdeck?! Out of the box structure deck?!

[@chic7489]

@@franciswu6101 He is talking about starter deck 10, that is coming on Nov 10th, together with banlist. It contains 4x 1c Nami searcher and 4x 3c Zoro rush

[@merccc1]

@@chic7489 Was looking forward to the new art too... Ok to get rid of dadan as her search is fairly strong in multiple ways, but her too? ... ugh.

[@kamikaze.33]

​@@franciswu6101 there's a reprint of the OP-01 Nami in the upcoming new starter deck dude.

[@jcjvcjc98]

I can understand WB because it's used to much, but Nami???? That's crazy

[@Odysseus25]

And where is the return of previously banned cards . Red is basically crippled as an Ace main this is already a struggle, which made it even worse to play

[@kamikaze.33]

The prices of Katakuri is making it impossible for new players to even play yellow. He's almost a $100 card now! Thank God I already own 2 copies, but if I'm going to compete against 90% Katakuri players at the upcoming tournaments this month, I'm going to need at LEAST 1 more copy, which is financially impossible now... You know what, I almost wonder if there's some insider trading BS going on.. whoever issued these bans at Bandai MUST have known that this would cause yellow card prices to skyrocket to ridiculous levels! Maybe they were hoarding a bunch to sell now and turn a profit... Honestly, that's the ONLY way any of this makes any sense to me...

[@Nephalem2002]

It’s the same case with Yugioh. They ban cheaper decks cause they either wanna sell the new shit or sell boxes that contain more expensive cards that will take over where the cheaper use to be.

[@DesnestheDwarf]

For me as a Red/Green Luffy Player... it is a sad day...

[@jean-michelmichaud2584]

They banned WB..could have banned law and solve more problem then by banning nami..but no...

[@giancarloabreu2523]

I’m a red green luffy main, nami doesn’t hurt much, just switch to the event card and you’re good 👍

[@DesnestheDwarf]

@@giancarloabreu2523 im already using it but have nothing to get events now

[@chic7489]

I feel like red wasn't as strong as it appear to be. There were so many red tops because it is the most played decks and there are very few rebecca players. In the OCG there are tons of rebeccas, hence, less red topping tournaments. It feel like playing rock(red), paper(black/blue), scissors(yellow), but as no one played paper, u need to ban rock. Which means, yellow will probably be the best deck for the rest of op4, maybe Dofy and Nami will show up a bit more. In addition to that, I dont know why would you ban WB, given that it is pretty much dead in op5. The 5c marco restriction and nami ban would be enough to decrease the play rate.

[@jean-michelmichaud2584]

Because we have a VERY LOUD minority that want everything banned

[@benzskyeshxc96]

Asia and japanese not even go this extreme.

[@jean-michelmichaud2584]

we just a a very LOUD MINORITY of people. Big babies but they are loud. Bandai is just listening.

[@kingfallen]

Agreed. Background In Dota. Letting the players figure it out is best. These cards didnt loop in a way that broke the game. Asia meta is perf example of letting the players find an answer. @@jean-michelmichaud2584

[@benzskyeshxc96]

@@jean-michelmichaud2584 Real shame.

[@benjamintodd5637]

I really, really hate this ban list. Apart from Nami being insult to injury, bandai has directly weakened the current meta by restricting it to a single deck, one that 's very annoying to deal with and expensive to build (Katakuri if you're wondering), and now those deck users have no real threats anymore. Secondarily, this also tells me Bandai has no confidence in their upcoming OP5 set. By banning this prior to the set coming out, they're basically giving up in trying to do any kind of natural power-creeping because they aren't power-creeping at all, so their gut reaction is to play whack-a-mole with good decks, and I guarantee you Big Mom is going to be next because of this. Compare this to something like Yugioh. They have a comically long ban list, but with 1000 times the number of cards. The difference is that Konami does their homework when they ban or limit cards. On top of this, Konami tends ti let the next sets release before looking into problem decks because they have confidence that the decks that come from the next set can power-creep on their own. This is just bad across the board.

[@legit_black182]

Side note in all this is that none of these leaders are a threat in OP5 so they are literally banning cards for like a month. Well Yellow will top more % in events than red did now for this month lol

[@kamikaze.33]

I'm sorry, I do NOT understand banning Nami! LMAO you can't even play a Strawhat themed deck in the ONE PIECE card game! What kind of joke is that?!?! Nami wasn't even a problem card at all! Like, i can seriously understand banning Curly Dadan, even if I don't necessarily agree with it, I at least understand it. But Nami?!?!?! That made absolutely ZERO sense! And what about purple Luffy and Enel in OP-05??? Are we even going to get to play them?!?! Or will they get banned on the day they release?!?! Who at English Bandai gets to even decide these things??? It seriously does not seem like it's any sort of council but rather 1 or 2 people who get to wield way too much power. They could have at least consulted the community first! Maybe put out a poll or something. Or AT LEAST warned everybody that they were thinking about doing this before actually pulling the trigger! In fact, they told us at the release of OP-04 that there was not going to be any changes to the restricted/ban list, which left a false sense of security for people to go ahead and invest time and money into decks just to have Bandai casually just change their minds on a whim I guess and ban everything anyway... I feel like nothing's safe anymore! I just ordered all the cards I needed to finally try out a Whitebeard deck for myself that I wanted to play before OP-05 got here, (since red is pretty much dead on arrival once OP-05 drops anyway). I'm literally afraid to even order anymore cards in preparation for OP-05/OP-06 like I've been doing, because Bandai could just quietly ban the cards in the middle of the night after I've already spent nearly $200 on various cards! This is just SO unhealthy... And to give only 2 weeks for players to practice a brand new deck/meta before the Pasadena regionals is insane to me!

[@Nocoldah]

Banlist timing was so dumb. Rip all the testing for pasadena. Rip the nami reprint in st10 since it'll be banned when it comes out. New set comes out in a month. In Japan it basically put red in the background with the rise of sakasuki, enel, and pluffy. Why not wait and see if the new set does the same here? Japan had none of this and they did just fine. Why ban just the nami searcher? It was unnecessary. I understand the Dadan ban, I was thinking of more just restricting it, but it's generic n can search any red 1c. But why ban an archetype specific searcher? Dumb move tbh just the Dadan hit would've been fine coz then they can't search nami, otama, magra, makino, buggy. Ban the generic searcher if you have to. Leave the archetype searcher alone.

[@D_Mo94]

Absolutely. They also just printed her in the gift set as well. People hunting for 4of in that are probably crying right now

[@Nocoldah]

@@D_Mo94fax and paying $20+ a copy

[@codycenters3391]

With these bans and restrictions Bandai has effectively killed Zoro, Law, Whitebeard, and Rebecca. Whitebeard deserved the ban, but Zoro and Law could of just hit been hit with the Curly ban and that's it. You also kill Rebecca, because her best matchups are red decks, and she has a terrible time vs yellow. Katakuri will undoubtedly because Tier 0, and I hope instead of restricting/banning 10c Mom they will go the opposite direction and unrestrict some of the red cards (Nami, Rad Beam, Both Marcos) and see what happens.

[@Nashjes]

Dont forget Ace, well actually all red leaders.

[@Nephalem2002]

So that’s why I couldn’t find Big Mom’s Starter Deck fuck all anywhere

[@JTwoXX]

Straight up Bans is too heavy handed. They should have limited Nami & Marco to 2 and banned Dadan. I get why Nami was targeted being that she can search the widest archetype of characters in the game, but it feels like the decision was made ONLY because of tournament results. This ironically hurts Ace more than anything, and making ST10 unplayable on release doesn’t come across as smart.

[@shadow5273]

as far as i know bandi doesnt limit things to 2 ... its 4 1 or 0

[@JTwoXX]

@@shadow5273 Such weird decision making considering they typically only include 2 copies of certain cards in their Starter Decks. 🤷🏽‍♂

[@shadow5273]

@@JTwoXX tbh i said today on my way to locals i think any search should auto be limited to two copies to stop that zoro searcher spam they did a while back

[@jean-michelmichaud2584]

it'S because here we let our VERY LOUD monirty make the decision. They just do what they hear.

[@kamikaze.33]

​@@shadow5273 I really wish it was 2 copies too. 1 copy feels like it may as well not even be in the deck. Limiting something to 2 seems fair to me. The whole restricted to 1 copy thing just always felt like a pseudo ban. I just don't get the decision making behind it.

[@juniorthethird08]

If I learned anything from YGO, Restricting is just as powerful as Banning, but receives less negative feedback. The more upsetting part is the timing. Right before a major and the release of a new starter deck that features a banned card.

[@Fuzziez10709]

Rebecca over here is doing almost nothing though... Also non-directly hitting every other red deck or /red deck is wild.

[@lolthisgame2550]

It wouldn't be one piece if newgate wasn't removed from the narrative.

[@kangaroosmoistpouch3027]

Just versed a Newgate in the sim. He raged quit 3 times. After taking out his high cards with Rebecca he gave in

[@alejandrobuentello1546]

So that's why my 6 katakuri's jumped up in value lol

[@WossyPlays]

Oh yes! Katakuri SEC just jumped in value!

[@joseurbina3530]

Ironic that they say they're doing this in order to have more diversity in the game when every single yellow leader in the game only plays Big Mom Pirates even if they don't have the archetype themselves. Even Yamato and Enel have lists that are 90% made up of Big Mom Pirates, and it will stay like this because the triggers in yellow are honestly broken, they're the most annoying decks to play against in the whole game

[@thehuskydrummer]

The reason Yamato and Enel still run Big Mom Pirates is more so a lack of engine support for their own Archetypes. Yamato's Yellow Wano cards are basically all garbage except for a couple and features 0 searchers for Yellow Wano cards (Wano searcher is Green). As a Yamato player, I'd love nothing more than proper support for mono Yellow Yamato, but it appears that their answer to Yellow Yamato needing proper support is to release G/Y Yamato instead. Enel, however, technically receives 3 searchers in the next set, but the rest of the Sky Island set doesn't quite get up to the same power level as many other decks would, granted I appreciate them trying to get it on its own legs. I'm excited to try a mostly Sky Island version of Enel, but either way, the biggest issue I see is other Yellow leaders not getting enough Archetype support and NEEDING to use the Big Mom engine to function.

[@WenSon84]

i dont think big mom needs a restriction or ban. and i think this will push doflamingo decks more than katakuri decks

[@cow4094]

Yellow cards stonks just went UP. Well, specific ones

[@Squallfyr707]

My One Piece group chats last night at 10pm was insane watching this go down 😂😂😂😂😂

[@Vespyyy24]

I play red Luffy and the Nami ban is brutal. They should honestly just errata or ban/remake Zoro and Law leaders because Luffy, Ace and Vivi decks are being hit for absolutely no reason. I’ll probably just play Luffy in casuals for now and switch to Kaido as his crew is my second favourite in one piece.

[@Mayberrymojo]

I wish they would have just banned/restricted Nami for certain leaders. Basically Law and Zoro, but still let her be used with leaders like Vivi and RG Luffy.

[@jean-michelmichaud2584]

You speak logic. our VERY LOUD minority wants everything red gone because they want to play their decks. We don'T wantto counter a deck, we just want to kill it. Question is: who's next then?

[@merccc1]

Dadan is sad to see go, but I understand because of her chain reaction ability to get other searchers and then have those search as well. Nami though, doesn't seem that big a problem. Sure she has a wide card selection, but she doesn't do nearly as much potentially like dadan did. She cannot even search out the other nami that law was incorporating.

[@starbound100]

​@@jean-michelmichaud2584I'm fine with the bans IF from now on a deck that tops too much=bans. You don't get to cry when It suits you and then flip when your deck becomes strong.

[@jean-michelmichaud2584]

@@starbound100 this would mean ban th leader, not ban cards that are used also by other decks.

[@geozvision_hiking4views]

Why print cards then ban them . Feel sorry for anyone who just bought them .

[@MichaelNguyenn]

Just banning a leader character is gonna just be a bad precedent for the game in my opinon. Even if that leader character is whitebeard, It just opens the floodgate of having the potential of banning Enel, P. Luffy, Katakuri, and more if the meta dominates with any leader.

[@jacobmorin5835]

No wb was a problem people where playing way to much also as the game only last like 7-8 wb ability with his power was a huge hand advantage and board advantage... Like you drop a 10c nice but you leader won t atk... Yeah r/p luffy is 6k but only has 3 life and do not litterally draw 1 in end of turn

[@kamikaze.33]

​@@jacobmorin5835if you look at the winners from all the regionals from last month, red decks were in the minority. And come OP-05, red isn't even very viable! But now, I don't even want to invest in upcoming decks like purple Luffy or Enel because at any moment all that time and money put into them could just be taken away when Bandai quietly bans these leaders in the middle of the night too! Nothing feels safe anymore and Bandai has shown they obviously don't want to communicate with the player base before making these types of decisions.

[@MichaelNguyenn]

@@jacobmorin5835 he was definitely a problem but im saying removing leader is just bad in general. Players in general will now always have the threat of just straight up being removed if they’re meta . It hasn’t even been a full year so this always gonna be on a bunch of players mind. It’ just makes the game’s future very rocky in the long run. I’m definitely not gonna invest my time in this game if this how they treat balancing in the game.

[@jacobmorin5835]

@@MichaelNguyenn well in asia they did not had this issue so i think it is the player base the probleme it was the same issue in ygo and a lot of player came to this from ygo

[@Fullmetal719]

Game is too young for a 6k Leader, too game-breaking with such a small card pool.

[@LocalJanitor6]

I think the real mindset behind these bans was to stop the effectiveness of OP01 leaders + whitebeard since they've taken such a high percentage of results and participation. Bandai is telling us to play other decks lol

[@Kingofcardboard229]

Nooo, they are telling u to buy the new product for the new colors becuz they are upset u can basically run a red deck with just cards from the first 2 sets for a year and not have to buy any new product

[@Mooinator3000]

I pretty much just started the game, built whitebeard because he's up there as my favourite character in the manga.. and now my deck is dead, and don't know what to do now

[@burnsblunts]

I am an ace player an we start to get something brewing n they pull the rug out from us . Marco should have been left alone n nami bc every color has 1 of her type of cards

[@Mayberrymojo]

The first set of restrictions felt a little bad, but at least they were trying. This set of bans really feels bad and a little unnecessary IMO. I wish they would just ban/restrict cards for certain leaders instead. Like ban Nami for Law and Zoro, but let leaders like Vivi and RG Luffy still play her.

[@seanngd3534]

At that point better off just restricting it to 1.

[@richardshiflett5181]

Banning Nami from Zoro is dumb. Just restrict her to just Strawhat leaders.

[@Revoa_]

The nami ban seems very unreasonable. I was expecting a 1-2 restrict but now red has lost a lot of consistency. Also other decks like Katakuri will rise to the top so they should balance those in anticipation too. I wasn't fond of red supremacy as much as the next guy but they literally just ban/restrict red cards

[@vernonasian]

nami has access to the absolute strongest red defensive cards too guys. Rad beam, guard point, bad manners, etc

[@lucky7lol]

I just started playing in the sim, was buying cards to play in irl, i love law in the anime so wanted to try green/red law... i just invested in an engine that is banned before i even get to play it. With all the yellow triggers, them clearing most of my board made it hard for me to use my law ability. I was using it 2-3 times if lucky, in the later stages of the game. Now with Nami and Dadan gone is just harder for me to get my board ready before it gets cleared out by the yellow triggers.. so basically i am never using my ability. NGL today, atleast 5 times, ive though about just selling most of the cards i have and keep some full arts..

[@meno4187]

people who are complaining about big mom 1st dont have to worry long enel is the top yellow next phase and it cant run mom and 2nd mom aint that good as people are complaining about every week at my locals and store champs people never complain about mom but every time a WB or law player sits infront of them its a collective "ugh gg" and thats always been a problem since op-02 i say about time these get banned it will finally be nice to have to not build decks around WB or law all the time. Even kata players only put 6 drop pero due to WB players so most decks cant even function with WB and law in the meta so if you ask me finally will be nice to see other colors then just red.

[@jugde6844]

Idk I'd wish that they just ban the leaders, if they are played to often. That way other decks from the same color wont be unplayable

[@GavinNishiki-gs1bd]

White beard is still banned omg!

[@lpkchang808]

I was about to get the new ultra deck and finally get to play the game, but now a card from that deck is banned???? 😫😫😫

[@DokkanValkyrie]

This feels way too much sure I dont like facing red decks but this is so much

[@imtrippedout]

They should ban leaders instead they know which leaders are the problem why dont they ban them instead. Now all leaders that dont cause problems are being nerfed to the point they cant even exeist in meta. The only leader that exists in meta that isnt the top 3 red is ace and he barely makes it to top 17. Monkey d luffy hasnt been in a while nor garp. Vivi wont stand a chance now. And nobody uses uta.

[@crozshadow397]

Announcing a new banlist with a purpose of nerfing decks that currently META just before a new set released so people stop using their current deck and "force" them to change their deck with a new one from the new set. Means, they will buy cards from the newest set. I get it. It is business, but do they really have to be this dirty?

[@JulianPfisterer-jz3dy]

They really destroy the tcg just because people know how to play the game ... and now this 🤬🤬🤬 stop banding cards bandai you will lose gamers..

[@Nephalem2002]

Fuck I am pissed. They banned 4 Cards for a Structure Deck that JUST CAME THE FUCK OUT! Just ban that version of Whitebeard and Zoro!!!

[@ericv5435]

Yellow is going to be everywhere now

[@Nocoldah]

Agreed red was rly the only the only check excluding g/p doffy. Not looking forward to a yellow dominant meta with a $50 4 of lmao. At least with red they were different leaders. Just don't wanna see kata everywhere

[@shadow5273]

@@Nocoldah if you hate kata wait till you see enel

[@Nocoldah]

@@shadow5273 oh yeah I've seen it lmao I'm not saying I hate it rly yk it's just part of the game. I don't mind playing against it. I'm more saying i wouldn't enjoy it if it became a sort of tier 0 kata meta for the next month before opo5

[@markeynon513]

What I don’t get is why can they not just ban nami with particular leaders ?

[@DavidBearCoto]

I would have preferred the cards get restricted or errata’s that maybe only looked at the top 2 or 3 cards. Slowing down the deck some

[@funkychunk1343]

Ive never collected these cards so im wondering what is the best set to collect for use purposes AND coolness factor? I wanna get atleast 1 box of 05 but idk if i should get a 2nd or some other box

[@WossyPlays]

OP-05 and OP-01 are the ones to go for :)

[@kingfallen]

agreed@@WossyPlays

[@theguy0727]

seeing as yellow is probably the best competitive deck after this ban, 03 is probably the best bet in my opinion until 05 comes out. but it really depends on what leader youd like to play.

[@funkychunk1343]

Well currently I can get a bkx of the jp 05 for £55 in a store in my country so I'm assuming I should go for that. I can just translate the cards if I play with them, or maybe ill buy 1 Jp box as idk how fast the eng set will sell out@@theguy0727

[@funkychunk1343]

Also, ik whitebeard has been banned but would the earlier sets like 02 and 01 be cool to collect from a collection standpoint? 02 is also available from the site im looking on but 03 isnt as im assuming everyone had the same idea you gave me with yellow decks

[@richardshiflett5181]

Banning Nami has caused me to quit. I'll come back when she isn't banned.

[@YTCurtisPlaysGames]

They funked up in my opinion, zoro isn't strong against Katakuri in Katakuri goes first. Every time I play against zero I go first.

[@llshadowghostll]

They gonna ban a card that they about to release a starter deck with what a scam!!

[@Xodreev]

How could this work if they instead adopted something similar to Living Legend in Flesh and Blood? Leaders top cutting would accrue so many points per placing and when they reach X threshold, they are moved to a banlist to give room for other decks to thrive.

[@damedus]

I don't use dadan and just ordered 2 days ago on tcg to try it now I bought worthless cardboard

[@JudeRoger]

ISNT IT CRAZY!?? right after they release product of promo alternate arts of WB and marco??

[@travisramballie5967]

Im new to the game and just finished building a Zoro and a R/G Law deck 😭

[@Kingofcardboard229]

They should be restricted. Banning a card is only used for something that causes a broken loop or something. Nami and dan have been playable for almost a year. Nothing new has come out to make them any better than wat they were 6 months ago

[@RyanOSullivan]

Just starting out in the game and I just bought all these cards to start with a zoro deck :(

[@andresgenshinclips4229]

The last time they tried to hit WB, they actually buffed it. So now they did what needed to be done and banned WB leader. Not happy with the searcher bans tho. Also, yellow needs to be hit.

[@DoctorPace007]

As a yellow player, I agree, 10 cost should be restricted. Still playable but not as broken

[@shadow5273]

if yellow actually needed a hit it would be winning more events ..... atm ..... whitebeard is 30.43% of the meta red/green law was 22.24% and zoro was 12.80% roughly 65.5% was just red ... with green blue yellow purple and black making the other 34.5% ..... now that red has been dealt it it might win more events leading to big mom being limited but since kata isn't tier 1 in op05 i doubt it

[@andresgenshinclips4229]

@@shadow5273 I guess you didn’t get the memo but after the banlist Yellow will dominate. There’s nothing to keep it in check. It’ll be as dominant as WB was if not worse

[@shadow5273]

@@andresgenshinclips4229 theres heaps to keep it in check it wont be as rampant as people think it will ... red was so oppressive that every single deck was built around it

[@merccc1]

@@shadow5273 Oh please, red was the big one keeping yellow in check considering the main strat is to rush it down before big moms start dropping which is reds forte. Most decks that countered red were oppressively countered by yellow so red just stayed oppressive even more than it needed. Yellow itself makes sooo many decks unplayable that usually would be decent and/or even capable of countering out red decks. It has been an annoying gatekeeper for so many. Without it's main counter color being as prominent anymore, it is likely to rise oppressively unless the red decks can still maintain their tier to some degree. This will likely keep most of the oppressed decks even more unplayable. I know I am by far not the only one to notice this, even watching tier lists you can see it get pointed out a ton. The amount of times I have watched a tier list and heard 'this is a pretty good deck, but because of katakuri/big mom it just isn't very viable' then they place it in lower tiers, or "This counters newgate and red in general, but because of katakuri it isn't very viable.". I have heard soo many times. xD

[@PlebasaurusWrex]

Welcome to the even worse Yellow Katakuri Meta Bandai made some big mistakes here! Absolutely absurd whoever made these decisions needs to be fired in my opinion!

[@shadow5273]

nah theres many decks that can deal with kata .... and not set kata isn't even tier 1 its tier 2

[@PlebasaurusWrex]

@@shadow5273 I guess we will see results from Pasadena!

[@jean-michelmichaud2584]

it's not a problem, the same LOUD MINORITY will just scream again when that happens and ask this to be the next ban target. IT.WILL.NEVER.STOP.

[@Tegamone310]

​​@@PlebasaurusWrex Litterally doffy gurple destroy Yellow, and with Crocodile Is a 50/50. Plus there Will be a new Red leader with 6k in 1 week so no Need to Cry for Wb, only Nami is brutal unnecessary ban

[@davidsalcido3494]

The hits were specifically for Whitebeard, Law and Zoro

[@ace_sweethell292]

Banning 1 month from op05 that will redraw the whole meta is kinda dumb, unless, as i think, it's a ban that will be lifted in 60-90ish days. Also, the reason why red wins so much isn't because it's op, or better, it is really strong, but the number of players playin it is also important. If regionals are swarmed by 80% red decks, the odds of one of them winning it's pretty high!

[@Nocturne989]

But you seem to neglect that them being so strong and meta defining Is the reason there's 80% red decks at tournaments. The fact that 80% of tournaments entrants are on one color that we all know is overpowered is proof positive of the issue.

[@ace_sweethell292]

@@Nocturne989 Coming 4 days later to say: I was right, ban lifted in 30 days. Lol

[@Nocturne989]

@@ace_sweethell292 Ok? the main thing I responded to was the second part of you comment, not the part about OP05 shifting the meta.

[@snecboy]

1:00 where can I find this statistics?

[@giancarloabreu2523]

And don’t forget it’s not just the consistency. With zoro both of those cards also become swinging bodies easily, and with law they both recycle like crazy. Both of those bans are beyond reasonable

[@richardshiflett5181]

Restrict Nami to only Vivi and Strawhat leaders. Ban Dadan. Fixed the issue

[@samedi7470]

Oh well I was about to join the competitive circus with a RP Luffy leader and some straw hats. Thats the way to make consumer friendly and trust building decisions for future products 😂

[@DaDevid]

Now we wanna see 65% katakuri in every tournament 😂

[@g4tviscool]

Why not just say nami cant be played while this card is your leader. I think that would make more sense then outright banning the cards... would make more sense but its bandai they don't make sense lol

[@Dbern16]

How come its not updated on official website?

[@kazanyemmi]

Nami shouldnt have been banned. Everything else is fine. I had been looking forward to playing mono luffy again and they just ruined it for me.

[@markscheuerman7962]

Welp my vivi is gonna struggle now :(

[@thaoeverytime]

Nami doesn't deserve this!! Guess I'll go Izo and watch they will band him.

[@bryanpadilla8826]

Way too harsh!!! Now 10 drop Big Mom every game 😢😢😢

[@AruPG]

sadge, i was looking foward to start playing this game with the st10, unless bandai adresses the nami playset on st10 idk if im still picking it up to start playing the game

[@kingfallen]

No! hang in there! we must not lose anyone to the list! play the deck you like in a local setting. Casual play groups may be willing to overlook these restrictions/ bans. My brother plays WB, Bandi can tell him "no", But I wont. It's very rewarding to beat over tuned lists

[@AruPG]

@@kingfallen nah man, im more of competitive player, casual play where you overlook stuff or you change "rules" or formats to fit the casual players dont feel rewarding to me, also in most tcgs you can play a more fun or not so meta deck and still top cuz skill is a thing, is just that OP is not cheap to get a optimal deck

[@YO-Finny]

why are they killing this game so early???????!!!!!

[@VinegarAndSaltedFries]

I’m sure we’ll have some red cards coming soon that are fairly strong.

[@chrono9267]

I’m just gonna be honest they fucked up on this one

[@chrono9267]

If you’re going to put a dent in reds door, or you might as well put a dent in all the other colors too. Definitely does not make sense especially with the new starter deck coming out to. Don’t get me wrong I’m a red player Red is good but it’s nowhere near as good as it seems on paper especially against a good queen or even a lucci player it’s all in the luck on the draw man shit has me upset a bit lol.

[@unknown_end5659]

They could have limited nami to 1 per deck 😞

[@FearlessGuts]

Newgate should've been banned forever ago tbh

[@MEEPERS.33]

NAMI was too much The rest was okay

[@StrawHatGamingg]

Stop crying and adapt! West are the only players that cry over stupid stuff

[@emberpowertcg7692]

As someone about to build a whitebeard deck.. Oof

[@TheGoodColonel]

At least you didnt build WB the day before

[@emberpowertcg7692]

aha true@@TheGoodColonel

[@KingRobRool]

I think they should make a rule where you can only run 1 10c, maybe 2 9c and 3 8c. Will balance out all decks so big plays are more meaningful. Banning curly is understandable but banning a card that searches STRAW HAT cards in the freakin ONE PIECE TCG is just incomprehensible to me.

[@virolance]

its def a mistake to not put 10c big mom to 1 in this list. if they did that i think everything stabalizes but now we gonna get momed in the face for a while. kinda looking forward to seeing the hellscape that regional will be. just 1000 people doing rebecca and kat mirrors

[@kazanyemmi]

Boo hoobplay against queen then tell me its big mom that you hate

[@shadow5273]

rebecca dies to yellow and the main match up was against red so idk how many will main rebecca now and i disagree with the big mom nerf since it already has a restriction being it needs to be big mom pirates to work doubt they will get anymore support any time soon

[@codycenters3391]

STOP REQUESTING MORE RESTRICTIONS AND BANS. Also that fact that you think Rebecca will be played into a Katakuri meta shows you have zero idea what you are talking about. Rebecca vs Katakuri is probably 75/25 for the Katakuri player, so if Katakuri is tier 0, no one will play Rebecca.

[@shadow5273]

@@codycenters3391 kata isn’t tier zero though

[@shannonwilliams2739]

You can’t and shouldn’t use the banlist to ban your way to diversity it’s a terrible precedent. Cards should be banned to promote fairness. Let’s assume law and zoro survive this, banning a third of competitive users deck isn’t fair Sincerely, Yellow player.

[@TheRabbit86]

Everyone can use ACE. Thats the best next leader in Red.

[@kamikaze.33]

Wrong! Without Marco or Dadan, he's hit just as hard, if not harder!

[@idontwantahandlewhymustidothis]

As a Smoker player, this is my time

[@WossyPlays]

You and me both buddy! I love Smoker and Lucci. Maybe now it's time :D

[@idontwantahandlewhymustidothis]

@@WossyPlays It's just such a fun playstyle, happy hunting in the new meta! Great video as always :)

[@chuevang4091]

Not a good time for smoker actually, nami were the best things for smoker to minus for 7k. Now smoker will get swept by yellow.

[@Senseslol]

Everyone in the comments who doesn’t play in tournaments THIS DOES NOT EFFECT YOU! and the people who DO play red in tournaments you are just mad your 30% deck got nerfed BOOOOOOWHOOOOO

[@MM-ry9mo]

English optcg player such a baby

[@TheGoodColonel]

Another TCG learning the hard way not to give too much card advantage to the aggro decks. 😅

[@jean-michelmichaud2584]

not at all. It was true some months ago. Now we banning things that disapear in a month. This is UTTERLY USELESS and just listen to a loud minority.

[@njtpro]

bad move banning nami!!!

[@Bear-bx7yo]

Idk if it's fair to compare nami and izo. She can grab way more cards from the best engine in the game. Izo is good but with both marcos restricted he's a lot worse

[@WossyPlays]

I compared them because they are (literally) mechanically identical. I also explained that Nami sees a lot more play and that's the reason. But the comparison is very adpt because they have the same power, cost and skill :)

[@spgoonsquadbizair]

The Nami nerf was simply because she has no restriction other then strawhat could be event even another colour so law would just run the film package if you took curly

[@topherbrown1857]

Most of the searchers are just type restrictions if I remember correctly. She’s getting hit because she grabs rushers and everyone uses all of those. There’s no real reason for this ban other than the loud whiners complaining about red. I don’t even play red but this ban pisses me off

[@kamikaze.33]

Yeah, imagine banning any Strawhats themed deck in a card game based on One Piece... So stupid.

[@moreiraandre2393]

I dont think nami is inoffensif. Nami is going to be a power card in every red deck imo because strawhat pirates will always continue to be tge most present type card and she has no color restriction. So every strawhat leader that will cone out in the future which is red or double color with red will see nami in the deck. Dadan in comparaison is inoffensive yes .

[@dangirdler5066]

I think 5drop law can also be look at

[@Senseslol]

STAY MAD RED PLAYERS! HAHAHA