Huge Stellar Blade Censorship Controversy

[@InfernoOmni]

Hey, guys. After hearing most of your comments and talking with some friends behind the scenes I now understand how irresponsible it was to cover todays story by only addressing one side. It was not an attempt to show favoritism or pick a side. I should have either covered both sides or neither. I got this one wrong and I apologize.

[@bucktheguyy]

thank you, omni

[@marykateandnoashley]

TBYS completely lies in his post, too. not ONCE did Noah accuse him of doxxing Illy. Not. Once. Omitting Noah’s video allows this lie (and several others) to be promoted as the facts. That alone should also help undecided people understand where TBYS’s sense of personal responsibility and honesty is. (Nowhere in sight). It’s important to cover this fairly, considering someone and their family’s safety is involved, with the police, a legal battle and threats of violence. And guess what, it isn’t TBYS. The amount of bitching over his video being deleted… ILLY HAD TO BREAK HER LEASE AND MOVE STATES BECAUSE OF HIS FOLLOWERS SPURRED ON BY HIS VIDEO. This isn’t even a question of who has suffered more

[@frogglen6350]

Yeah. You're a no talent leech

[@liriodendronlasianthus]

Take the video down or cut the topic

[@InfernoOmni]

@@liriodendronlasianthus Already did the cut. KZbin take a while to process.

[@daenite2480]

How the heck is the Illymation situation still going???

[@cfiber_inc]

Magic

[@bleachsundae1368]

Because some lunatic decided to dox her and harass her family

[@Vuehiri]

That's what I said!? Like how : (

[@SketchHusk]

That is what I was thinking!

[@FokushiKitsune]

That’s what I’m wondering but ig some people just can’t let go of certain things

[@nathanaellazaro3347]

If you didn't watch Noah's video you should probably not have shown TBYS's community post in response either. His claim that Noah accused him of doxxing Illy is a complete lie. Noah merely showed that the doxxers directly cited TBYS's videos for why they doxxed her and how TBYS's videos on Illy were maliciously framed to make her video look bad.

[@aloris_]

Exactly. And it goes against their whole point of being on TBYS's side because Illy didn't watch his. Hypocritical tbh

[@joezilla101]

But Omni has already seen illys full video so what’s the point

[@joezilla101]

That stupid is he directing these people to dox her no he’s stated that multiple times.

[@pimkinn]

@@joezilla101 because its not the full story, Noah’s video has yet to be fully covered unlike the rest! edit: seeing omni get kinda pissed because hes tired probably made this a little bit coming off as forcing him to do it. I think to provide full info, including noah is alright, but i hope he can recover and rest, apologies omni 🙏

[@justSunny7]

I agree. Him updating on this and only showing TBYS response is very one-sided.

[@lordfreerealestate8302]

I oppose fat-shaming and don't like some parts of the fat acceptance movement either. Doxxing/threats/harassment is NEVER justified, no matter where you stand on this conflict or on those issues. We can disagree with people without trying to destroy them. Nobody deserves what Illy went through and because she has a history of mental health issues that leave her already vulnerable (include s-ideation), I hope she's in an okay place.

[@candace3493]

I really appreciate you commenting this. It seems like anything short of condoning fat shaming or other contempt/harassment towards fat people is conflated with absolute fat acceptance or denying harms people can face gaining weight. Illy didn't deserve that and her content always resonated with me as a fat, autistic woman, it feels especially tough to be visible online. As much as lifestyle factors (diet, exercise, etc.) could contribute to people's weight, I became overweight and fluctuated between overweight and obesity due to adverse side effects from multiple medications. I often feel forced in this position, no matter how many times I've dieted or been too restrictive with fasting. When I was smaller, people did not prescribe starvation. It's actually detrimental to the pain I suffer. There are some aspects as well, like my own risk of s-ideation from things my mental and other chronic illnesses that make it hard to engage, so I will probably have to actively take a step back from tuning into this for my own well being/bordering on safety on bad days. I hope discourse towards fat people can improve over time and we can stop politicizing and speculating on other people's bodies.

[@noahsamsen]

Props to you for hearing out the audience's criticism about covering Sean's thread without my video. That's rare to see, and I appreciate it.

[@jodumxd9781]

Thanks for sending support Illy's way. You're real for that.

[@idreadFell365]

Did you see his 3 hour video reacting to your video? He deleted it while I was listening to it.

[@CamSteady]

Omni realizing that art and politics exist hand and hand 😂

[@utopes]

We can scrap the s, cause you never miss a beat 😎

[@CamSteady]

@@utopeseven the Mr beast rap is a critique on capitalism😭

[@utopes]

@@CamSteady The two are ALWAYS intertwined, perhaps some specific experiences hit close to home LOL :v

[@kainzor100]

Yoooo camsteady i didnt expect to see you here bro

[@deltabeast8132]

did not expect to see my guy here! But hey ig we all get our news (and fun internet guy entertainment) from somewhere

[@chloedsmith]

I think the problem with a lot of the backlash against fat acceptance is that they start talking about facts around diet, exercise etc., which are all true, but in the context of why they should be allowed to unapologetically harass and insult fat people, and why those fat people should feel terrible about themselves every day until they're "fixed", which has *NEVER* been an effective strategy to actually get people to lose weight in a healthy manner and keep it off. If you're not their doctor, just shut the hell up. You don't know what they looked like or felt like last week, you don't know what they're doing, and even if you did, it's none of your business, and if your only motivation is to make sure this person knows that you think they're disgusting, *WHY?*

[@twistedsilver68]

Tbh with the Stellar Blade situation. Its also not a BIG deal to me? I am still playing and loving the game but I do understand where are people coming from. I do find it weird that there are games like BG3 and MK1 out there uncensored, gory, and sexual. And for some reason for Stellar Blade certain outfits are a no no? Its odd but I do hope the petition does make ShiftUp give us the option to turn off the censorship at least. If not then we will wait for it to go on PC🤷🏾‍♂️

[@NoName......]

Korea has different restrictions on what you can show.

[@wangless]

Yeah Omni you’re in his video, I watched it this morning and it really underlies how sinister TBYS edited his video to twist things and got people so riled up that they started a hate thread and she moved out of fear once she got doxxed. Most of the “commentary” is deceptive in his videos and clearly it’s very biased - he seems like a genuinely awful person who profits off anger.

[@flamedramon68]

Big red flag is he unironically uses the word "woke." That's usually how these kind of people operate

[@chocogamer5398]

Hope Omni sees your comment, people need to know how scummy TYS is.

[@pimkinn]

hot take why is everyone suddenly switching up on TBYS, like I kinda instantly didnt like him for using words like “woke” and having videos about “how woke propaganda is radicalizing” and stuff. Idk just very interesting

[@chocogamer5398]

@@pimkinn unfortunately a lot of people who do content like him tend to have a massive audience who are easily manipulated since he uses certain words or frames things in a way that makes others see things in a negative light so Noah’s video breaking down all the flaws in his argument must of made a lot of people realise how awful he is.

[@wangless]

@@pimkinn the only time I’ve ever heard about TBYS is against my will 😂 I don’t know man, his content has always been ragebait as long as I’ve known about him and he just seems genuinely bad

[@michaelcoleman9662]

I vote that Illy and TBYS resolve this once and for all with a diss track battle.

[@mzmessy3]

I second this

[@le8837]

I third this

[@BetweenTheLyons]

I fourth this

[@petergriffin1779]

I fith that

[@gugugaga8964]

I don’t think this issue is ever going to end until TBYS quits being full of himself, and actually see the harm he did, and make things right with illy. And instead of making another community post, I honestly believe he should privately DM her and apologize for the (Could be argued) unintentional mob mentality he created as shes the only one who deserves an apology from him.

[@shplorf1977]

I feel bad for Illymations at this point since this feels more like TBYS drama than hers. I didnt even agree with her but this going on is annoying as hell and shouldve been moved on from. Definetly couldve been patched up with an email.

[@Jcoleot]

Yeah, still an awful move to tell others to take his channel down but besides that it does suck for her. It should have ended but her friends can’t shut their mouth and now we enter this politic warfare so🫤

[@Ida608]

But I mean, why did she instruct her fanbase to mass flag his video on her without even watching, seems to me like these are the consequences of her actions 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@MoeMoon]

​@Jcoleot never told anyone to take his channel down. Just to flag his vid.

[@MoeMoon]

@@Ida608 sure that's an excuse for doxxing.

[@dimitri7615]

@@MoeMoon "She didn’t tell her fans to kill him. She told them to stab him a few times." Do you realize how stupid that argument is?

[@JD-iu6rv]

If the Kingdom Hearts movie is made by Disney animation and an actual anime studio then I’ll be excited. That’s exactly what Disney would need to get people interested in their movies again

[@00pium_kingvampstan]

but that would be so all over the place 😭😭 how would they even cover any of the lore, as it’s so confusing all of the time basically 💀

[@laylamorrison9596]

​@@00pium_kingvampstan It's best to just adapt the first game. It also happens to be the one with the most Disney character plot relevance, so it fits.

[@viktorayy]

It could be 3D in Square Enix style high quality cutscenes and I'd be fine with that too.

[@bluebucket703]

As long as Nomura is involved then I have hope for this. I wonder if the final fantasy characters are gonna be in the movie?

[@FenixFeniks]

Honestly, I dont want a KH movie especially if disney is the one to produce it. We saw what happened with their increased involvement in KH3 and I dont think disney will have the patience making the multiple movies it will need to properly cover any single game.

[@10Gpixels]

The thing about the Ilymations thing, is that TBYS was already a political commentator of sorts, so it was already political. The use of 'woke' didn't help their case either. Also Noah didn't accuse TBYS of the harder shit, just pinned some blame on them for causing the whole debacle under the false pretenses. Him getting this upset over Noah's video mirrors how Ily felt about TBYS's video, even having similar points. Noah proved he cut around parts of the videos to make Ily look bad in hindsight, including parts where she specified that people should pay attention to dietary restrictions, and parts where she mentioned and countered the claim of being pro-obesity at the end of the video. Messy situation all around, but Noah's vid is worth the watch in your free time.

[@frumtheground]

Yeah, if anyone knows anything about TBYS (and Brittany Venti because "the company you keep" and all that), he's always been political.

[@JamesP7]

I watched the Illy video before. None of the added context changed anything.

[@milkinobama]

@@JamesP7yes it did. It’s basically “eat what you want” vs “eat what you want if it won’t hurt you” 2 completely different things

[@JamesP7]

@@milkinobama That was an exception that did not change the point. Like if somebody said “All trans people are pedos” and then said “Except my trans sibling, they’re not”, the “new/added context” does nothing to alter the falsifiability of the original statement.

[@milkinobama]

@@JamesP7 literally not even that. The whole point of the video is not to count your carb and be extremely worried about what you eat. He purposely got rid of the context to make her look bad because all he knows how to do is farm outrage. Also, terrible comparison.

[@alexbdagger]

okay I saw noah's video and I can confirm that think before you sleep has lied in his statement.

[@HACSSuperbMiner]

My one gripe about the Stellar Blade drama is that the bunny outfit is one of the more conservative outfits in the game. If this was a deliberate censorship done by Sony, why would they pick that costume? There are WAY skimpier/sexier outfits in the game, even the default one. Just seems really odd. Also, some people are saying the gore censorship is actually for performance reasons, others are saying that particular shot was only done so demo had something neat to end on, idk.

[@HACSSuperbMiner]

All I know is that I like laughing at Grummz cuz he blocked Omni for giving him dating advice that was basically “bro just ask her and get consent”

[@isimioyekunlemarktaiwo3643]

​@@HACSSuperbMiner😂😂😂 the dude is weird, and this partition makes it worse for the dude.

[@JeskidoYT]

i want to say it's moreso the asian audience looking this game with a strange eye since bunny-girls stereotype is common there

[@LG555]

I could think, that these changes may have come from one of the different rating boards.(Esrb, Pegi, Cero, etc.)

[@Syllaren]

It seems to have been about the narrow pelvic area. Of the costumes I've seen, none of them had that. I think Sony apparently just didn't like that specifically.

[@sentientcereal]

I really don't understand why Nintendo is asking gmod to remove their Nintendo stuff now. Like man let it go things involving the ips has already happened 20 years ago, why are they worrying now? The biggest tragedy here is losing vanoss luigi, fly high king.

[@Greenhawk4]

no it wasn't nintendo someone is impersonating them and abusing the dmca system. you can look it up and stuff to find more info if you want.

[@RedisNotaFlavor]

Omni didn't realize his favorite games and anime are political? Come on man.

[@rosegiogio9255]

Fr I don’t even know how that is possible

[@marmaladelover1]

explains a lot of some of the shit hes been doing lmfao...

[@RJS2003]

It's almost like those games and anime are so good on their own that they don't ever need to tell you or constantly scream in your face that they're explicitly about political subjects and have far more engaging contents/substance other than those elements to stand on which normally aren't even the main focus anyway. Crazy how much good, well-made media doesn't make you notice these things. Edit: Hmm... I feel as if I really should have rephrased this comment. Yes, a lot of or even most games and shows do explicitly have political topics and themes but those are mostly never where the main focus is. They got other aspects about them that they can leverage instead, good characters, gameplay, stories, etc. That's why I can understand why Omni didn't notice this, there's so much other good things in our media that we'd rather focus on instead.

[@RedisNotaFlavor]

@RJS2003 Bruh, Even if they tricked you into thinking it wasn't political, it's still political. You being oblivious just mean you got scammed, lol

[@RJS2003]

@@RedisNotaFlavor Does any game/show having anything even slightly political in it somehow mean I've been "scammed"? Was just playing Pikmin earlier too, damn, I can't believe Nintendo would turn me into a radical extremist like this... 😔 Olimar, who could you?!

[@Professor_POVFH]

I watched Noah’s video and I don’t remember a single time he directly accused TBYS of doxxing or threatening illy just pointed out some editing shit he did. I guess you can bring up how TBYS said he holds no responsibility over his audience but again, Noah never said that he personally wanted her doxxed. This is not the first time Noah and TBYS clashed and it’s definitely not the last time Noah is going to release a very nice well thought out video while TBYS is going to lie himself outta a situation.

[@ZaxTax-h8t]

I noticed you claim he's lying yet not once gave a example. 🤔

[@idreadFell365]

Either tbys didn’t watch Noah’s video or he’s deliberately trying to misrepresent Noah so others can make their false conclusions and not watching the video.

[@ThatMecha]

Inferring and directly accusing aren't the same thing. Noah's video title definitely infers that TBYS is in some way responsible otherwise why name the video that if not to drum up and cause some sensationalism

[@moongirl-d9h]

@@ZaxTax-h8t when tbys says illymation calls a carrot the exact same as a chocolate bar. he's talking about nutritional content, while she's talking about moral equivocacy

[@ZaxTax-h8t]

@@moongirl-d9h I've seen parts of her vid. She's wrong on the topic of " fat " from what I've seen. Sooo......

[@SpiritUser]

People need to stop picking sides before everything is out.

[@groggygary]

It was pretty obvious to begin with who was in the right. The only people I saw who agreed are the type of people who like TBYS's content (ie. people who use the term 'woke' unironically)

[@dimitri7615]

@@groggygary "You use a word so you are immediately wrong." Clearly a very good argument.

[@theobell2002]

You strike me as the type of guy to "both sides" literal slavery. There's only 1 wrong side here and it's not the animation channel.

[@bobthegodofmemes2249]

@@groggygarySo the one that started a mass flagging campaign was in the right just because she doesn’t use buzzwords?

[@spacezeppeli7358]

@@theobell2002 honestly baffling that mass flagging channels isn't something that is universally agreed upon to be bad

[@chance5661]

Rip Vanoss Luigi

[@Blast1314]

The saddest thing that has happened

[@slikwolf]

at least they didnt have to worry about mario

[@welcometothefuneral]

omni realizing the anime about dodging the opps is political kinda wild

[@videogamesaremylife1332]

Using the word "woke" in a negative way gives me red flags.

[@idreadFell365]

Anti-woke people are anti-intellectuals. They will try and make wisdom and awareness out to be a bad thing.

[@lordfreerealestate8302]

I agree. TBYS also allegedly took aim at her appearance and that whole video was very politically motivated. Regardless of whether or not he should be considered responsible for the doxxing, or be deplatformed, he comes across as unlikeable at best.

[@frumtheground]

He's always been very political.

[@frumtheground]

​@lordfreerealestate8302 Exactly. Ignoring any sneaky editing and misrepresentation he did to affirm his and his audiences beliefs, the minute he started nit-picking at someone's physical appearance throws out any possible claim of good faith. He made it personal, so this is what he gets.

[@idreadFell365]

Damn, KZbin hid my comment once again

[@hughsilva5655]

Nintendo realizing the staggering amount of copyright infringing vermin in Italy:

[@6Catz]

there is a shop that just opened up here in orlando called hyrule kingdom and they have a bunch of cool zelda art all over the windows and a huge blow up mario outside the store. its a sick retro game store but im afraid nintendo is gonna hit there ass with a lawsuit lmao

[@Archrid]

KZbin appeals aren't processed in most cases, they're just auto-rejected. There are some blatant cases where a YTer will submit an appeal, refresh the page, and it'll already say it was manually reviewed and rejected. The only people who get the benefit of the doubt are people like sniperwolf, who probably couldn't get banned if they tried, because the rules don't apply to everyone.

[@KS-zt4nd]

Another huge isn't just the censorship with Stellar Blade, but the marketing. For months, even just days before the release they showed uncensored outfits, announce less than a week before the release that it would be uncensored in all regions, then they censor it with a day one patch after taking your money. Many people, rightfully, believe this should be considered fraud/false advertising. Especially since the director said the outfits were changed to "What they always intended." Which first, why would you waste your team's time making outfits that you supposedly never intended, and second that basically admits to fraud. They supposedly always intended for the censored version, but showed uncensored stuff in the marketing the whole time, the definition of false advertising.

[@kingkaiser95]

Crazy thing is how it's made by shift up... who made NIKKE... this is 100% a Sony thing

[@dreamer72]

Listen, call it false advertising whatever, I don't think it goes to that point, whatever again. I'm going to lay a bit of a truth bomb here, you might want to brace yourself. So you know the guy making the biggest deal out of all this? Grummz, Mark Kern? Yeah, "false advertising" better not cross his lips because bro is projecting in IMAX. He falsely advertised a Kickstarter game that he's been making for years gouging his own fans for Pre-order packs for a game that doesn't exist, in fact it's the same exact game he showed off years ago, he never developed it. THATS false advertising, theres just way more problems than skimpy outfits. We got microtransactions, forced obsolescence, employee mass layoffs and making less money, DRM, Live Services, etc. The fact that this is somehow more important than the ongoing Stop Killing Games campaign just shows the lack of actual care about anything for gamers. They are literally taking your games away from you and your drowning yourself in culture war bs that only empoyers the richest people on the planet. It would be hilarious if it weren't so dystopian.

[@KS-zt4nd]

@@dreamer72 The whataboutism is INSANE lmao. "THis other unrelated guy supposedly committed false advertising, that means Sony/Shift Up are completely exonerated." If you can't see how literally showing/saying one thing days before release even though you supposedly knew all along you were going to do something different is false advertising, you're a lost cause and part of the reason game companies feel confident in walking all over us.

[@kidicarusplays8684]

As much as I hate Coomers, false advertising is false advertising

[@KS-zt4nd]

@@kidicarusplays8684 Tbh I fail to see how this is a coomer thing either.

[@czms922]

Hey Omni, wanted to inform that think before you sleep and Noah have history with each other. They've made tons of videos replying to each other in the past

[@thefelicits]

He's deliberately avoiding doing any research before forming an opinion lol, just goes straight to boosting TBYS side

[@H1nted]

How does this change the evidence provided in noah stories ? Also clearly you haven t watched noah only through the lens of other commentary, noah does videos about reactionay "essay youtubers" in general. And tbys is one of the biggest channels in that...generally noah doen t respond, yet he said that back and forth with tbys (an argueably bigger channel then and now) is beneficial for ppl like noah to gain visibility, thus the back and forth. Noah always apologizes when he fucks up. But most ppl don t see that since they only know him from tbys, and tbys IS the one being in bad faith and never shows when someone admits anything and is only there to "attack", but when real and actual arguments are there he just "cries" about it while not adressing anything.

[@TiredMoonRabbit]

​@@H1ntedit doesn't change the evidence it just gives us more background between these two creators, from what it seems like Noah lost those arguments that happened before because of poor or improper research (thats just what I'm hearing in these comments at least), and having seen parts of his video on Destiny I can kinda see that, if so then this would be a big up for him in credibility which is good.

[@seraphsayshi7715]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@TiredMoonRabbitif nothing else, please actually practice some base-level critical thinking skills by not relying on random KZbin comments from strangers and “analysis”/ response videos from two other creators (one of which has already been shown to outright deceptively edit and misrepresent others’ actual meanings) and watching Noah’s entire, unedited or clipped, video (or videos) in question. I get that leaving one’s online comfort zone is, even just conceptually, a little intimidating, but it goes a long way. Also, sorry it any of this comes off as condescending, and if so, that wasn’t my intention in the slightest. Anyways, have a good one!

[@TiredMoonRabbit]

@@seraphsayshi7715 I watched his video, I just responded as to why it's important to know the history between the two, I've been on illy's side sense the beginning, don't misinterpreted my word.

[@Tucent]

Game said it was coming out uncensored. Game then censors. It's not unusual to see a game get censored, but this claimed to not be in its advertising.

[@Bondrewddy]

Don’t cover the illymation drama if you can’t watch the video but can be bothered to read TBYS’s response to it.

[@InfernoOmni]

Don't tell me what to do. I'll let people know that a 1 Hour Video exist that they can watch to get another side of the story.

[@mishioop1009]

@@InfernoOmniI love you Omni and this is coming from a fan and while I do believe people shouldn’t tell you what to do I also believe that you not watching the video but also reading his apology without really understanding why he needed to make this second apology (due to the evidence that came out in Noah’s video that shows tbys fabricated and twisted illy’s whole statement and edited it to make it seem like she said eating unhealthy is okay when she didn’t) just isn’t fair and still makes it seem like illy and tbys both did bad things and they’re both at fault when in reality it really isn’t like that at all and he’s lying.

[@trial_with_an_error9687]

​@@InfernoOmni "Don't tell me what to do" Motherfucker you call yourself a news channel, you are held to the exact same standard that everyone else is. You directly ignored any and all points in defense of Ily and Noah's vid but dedicated 9 fucking minutes to TBYS' little pity party? Fuck off, if you can't actually report on it then fucking don't.

[@originofsky]

​@@InfernoOmnisee, but this is the exact reason why so many people disliked your original coverage. the reddit post you went over was completely biased and full of false narratives, and if you had watched Illy's video without reading that post, you would have seen that she never says a lot of what people are alleging. I think we are even MORE upset because you are specifically clipped in Noah's video (multiple times actually), repeating lies that TBYS and his fans had spread. And you won't watch it to see why we all were so upset with your coverage the first time. I'm not trying to be an asshole, but it is a little disheartening when we have specific criticism about actual lies in your video, and you can't be bothered to even see what we're talking about, before reporting on it *again*. It doesn't really seem fair to us or to the situation. Especially because when viewers initially got mad about your initial coverage, all the comments on the next video made fun of everyone who had a real point, and you brushed the criticism off then, too.

[@ShardedandFarded]

​@mishioop1009 did Noah's video disprove the hate that was sent by illymation or disprove illymations claim about only taking outside advice about the video and not actually watching tbys' video. If not then they both did do bad

[@CaptainBeebi]

17:21 The annoying thing is it's absolutely not a matter of hypocrisy, but rather it's a matter of the game coming from a much more conservative part of the world when it comes to violent and risque imagery in media. Korea (Where Stellar Blade was developed) and Japan (Where their publisher is based) are both incredibly infamous within the games industry for requiring large amounts of censorship on games in order for them to be allowed on store shelves. This has caused issues in the past for Left 4 Dead, The Last of Us 2, Baldur's Gate 3, and a large amount of other western IPs that make their way onto store shelves in Asian countries. The censorship is so extreme that The Callisto Protocol outright cancelled their Japanese localization because of how many changes CERO (Japanese rating board) was demanding with regards to the amount of gore in the game. So it's basically a matter of "Yeah, no shit it got censored on release." If you look at the regional differences Western games have been their US/EU versions and their JP/KOR releases, you'd be able to piece together on your own that any changes that have occurred would be the result of CERO/GRAC (Korea's rating board), and not any sort of anti-Asian bias from the Western games industry. And before anyone asks "Why can't they increase the gore/risque content for Western releases?", there's three reasons: 1.) At best, adding more gore and revealing costumes does nothing to help sales. At worst, it creates a demand among their local playerbase for the extra content added into the overseas versions of the game, which would piss off CERO/GRAC. 2.) Assuming the translated guidelines I'm reading are accurate, making a "less censored" international version as a studio based in these countries seems to be in violation of CERO and GRAC's policies, which could result in the game being pulled from shelves in their home countries or 1.) Game studios in Japan and Korea make games for their Japanese and Korean audiences, not their overseas ones. We're the "other countries" in this case; as long as the game's allowed on store shelves, they don't really value our opinions.

[@theotherky]

But if that's the case, how did the demo get away with as much as it did?

[@esosaodiase4482]

@@theotherkyyeah I’m curious as to that question too.

[@CaptainBeebi]

@@theotherky The process of getting a game rated is an ongoing thing from before the initial trailers are released until after the physical game hits store shelves. That, and digital products are held to a different standard than physical releases, and you can release a digital demo for your game before its been properly rated. Case in point: Digital platforms like Steam aren't required to get the games they host rated by ESRB, PEGI, or CERO as the games are not being physically sold on store shelves. The rating boards primarily exist to ensure physical releases are properly categorized to ensure a parent doesn't accidentally get their kid an Eroge or a Binding of Isaac because they got the wrong vibe from the box art or title.

[@theotherky]

@@CaptainBeebi That's not what I mean. If you're in a country known for its strict censorship rules, why market a product that ignores those rules when you know it's not going to pass the content check, because if we're both talking about the same Korea, I'm not sure even the demo would have been allowed to release in the state it did.

[@CaptainBeebi]

@@theotherky Probably because ShiftUp wasn't marketing the game through boobies and heavy gore. The teasers were heavily focused on the story of the game, which is Eve being sent to earth in order to reclaim it from monsters that drove humanity to near-extinction. They had her in pretty normal (by anime sci-fi standards) outfits in the teasers, it was just people gooning over the unlockables without acknowledging that they're just meant to be a reward for the players, as opposed to the focus of the game. I can honestly believe that ShiftUp didn't expect anyone to notice or care about the changes, given they seemed to believe people were actually excited for the game because of the story and gameplay they were teasing.

[@It_mari70]

Our local news station is back!

[@GodChaos333]

I know how you feel Omni. To me. It was about seeing the cleavage. I still got the game and simply just didnt let it update past 1.0. It is annoying tho. Why censor a M rated game that isnt even showing nipples or anything. Like the dude did bring up. Other games had outright nudity and sex. I think sony does have favoritism.

[@mickus85]

These small changes could be the difference between 12+ to 18+ age restriction. It’s a smart and common move from a developer. These people are just losers. Play the game and enjoy the story and mechanics.

[@mrsphealtheseal]

Mind you TBYS made this entire thing about politics when Ily just wanted to be happy in her own skin and said eating certain food doesn't make you a bad person and he started hurling "woke" and "child murderer" at her but sure.

[@KhyannArts]

he called the "protect trans kids" flag in gwen stacy's room in the spidervers movie "involving child predators"

[@drbiohazmat]

I don't care about Stellar Blade, but if they advertised the game with heavy sex appeal and treated it like a major aspect of it, or said stuff that effectively promised it, then it's more so deceiving the customers by changing these things for the official release. Though, if they stated at some point that it might get changed before or for the full release, or never used it like a selling point, then there's no issue with them changing it.

[@esosaodiase4482]

@@DgSeznblud where did they say censorship

[@esosaodiase4482]

⁠@@DgSeznalso. It is very clearly a huge selling point of the game …….have you actually seen this game and it’s costumes? even the developers made other games like destiny child and NIKKE, It makes changing the outfits all the more confusing to a lot of people. It seems like they changed it due to appeasing some outside force instead of the change being something genuine. That’s why most people have an issue

[@tonylombardino8783]

As soon as I heard "kingdom hearts movie" and "Disney" in the same sentance i visibly shuddered and an audible "oh no" escaped my lips. Please dont screw this up. I know Disney will, but, please

[@RJS2003]

BREAKING NEWS: Kingdom Hearts movie features first gay Disney character (It's a random Heartless enemy who has 5 seconds of screentime).

[@tonylombardino8783]

Honestly it's not even that. There's just so much to try and cover. Even if it's a movie about the first game, there's a lot, and I mean a LOT of background to cover for it to even try and make sense. You cannot say you played KH1 and by the end, you fully understood what was going on. I played it as a kid and as a full ass adult and it still doesn't make sense. Disney will make it look pretty, sure, no doubt about it. Honestly a gay character wouldn't even bother me, who gives a shit, right? I guess all I'm asking is for quality. I want a good movie that gives a good summary of the ever confusing plot, not an Easter egg fest of "OH HE SAID X IN THE GAME I REMEMBER" or shitty 4th wall breaking jokes about scrolling through menus or something among those lines. I just want a good movie lol

[@HACSSuperbMiner]

@@RJS2003 Tbh I don’t really care if there’s a gay character. But a lot of people don’t so journalists would farm engagement off of it like with Onward.

[@Yamartim]

Omni I think you gotta watch think before you dox, dude called you out too in his video lmao, and as you yourself always say you gotta get every side of what people are saying and you only reading TBYS's point of view without actually seeing what he was even accused for feels pretty unfair to be honest

[@InfernoOmni]

Blud. I'm not going to sit here and cover hours and hours and hours over 5, 6, 7 videos of a situation that got me burnt while trying to cover it. I've given people context so that they can look into it further. I'm moving on. Not waiting for the next 5 videos Netflix special on this situation.

[@trial_with_an_error9687]

​@@InfernoOmni "I've given people context" -Bare bones summary of Ily's situation -Literal 30 second mention of Noah's video -9 minutes dedicated to TBYS' bullshit apology. Yeah right, definitely gave context my nigga.

[@originofsky]

​@@InfernoOmniif it got you burnt and you don't wanna cover it in detail, then why did you report on it again? you could have simply said you didn't wanna have to research it so you wouldn't cover it. that's totally cool. it's better to admit that you don't know or didn't research enough, than to give unfair coverage.

[@alphakowaclips]

My man, omni got raided with doxxrs the last time he covered this😅 it's better that he moves on 😅 if you wanna watch the drama, you're already watching other ytbers covering it already 😂

[@SparkJavelin]

Noah is QUITE LITERALLY a 3rd party leeching off this controversy, who cares about Noah, who cares about Noah's video. Omni watched THE ORIGINAL VIDEO AND THE COMMENTARY RESPONSE, that is ALL that is necessary for omni's opinion on the subject. watching noah's video is the equivalent of not being able to form your own opinion about this situation.

[@Savvoi]

whoa whoa whoa hol on.. is that EDITING i see? and it's CLEAN too?

[@donzen9749]

The Noah video was very good and IMO kind of smoked you as well. I think it is a good watch and provides a good perspective on the whole thing. His whole point is that there was a huge echo chamber around ILY and you not engaging with an outside opinion like his kind of proves his point that you are a part of that echo chamber.

[@jdudbdjxb7687]

How? He doesn't want to watch a long video about a petty drama. If you want to attribute that to an "echo chamber" then you must be the one stuck in one. There will always be some "new information" that people demand be covered.

[@wuzittooya]

@@jdudbdjxb7687Then maybe he should not talk about drama on his channel? Fact is his channel thrives off getting drama out to people as fast as possible, even when it’s incomplete info. 🙄🙄🙄

[@jeremyusreevu237]

Noah Samsen is a garbage KZbinr, and people are only simping for his video because they're desperate for any pro Ilymation narrative.

[@joezilla101]

That video was riddled with bad faith takes to make TBYS Look bad such as linking him to the reason she got dox

[@marcorodriguez8792]

yeah, i dont really trust this Noah guy. in fact, i no longer care about this petty drama so im glad Omni cut out that part in the video

[@maki55556]

politics?! in my art?! more likely than you think

[@TheCanineContrarian]

Ngl, the Stellar Blade drama is a legal issue they literally accepted preorders, sold people a promise that ended up being a lie and bait-switching right before it came out. Its false advertisement literally *RIGHT BEFORE IT RELEASED* massive changes were made to core and minimal game mechanics.

[@Tmac12X]

let me give you a cheat for making your days longer. 1) Wake up early 2) Go to sleep late The end 😂

[@KOOK_78]

As a huge fan, I have to say I'm disappointed in your coverage of the TBYS situation. Noah's video brings up so much that TBYS completely ignores and lies about in his videos and posts, and I feel you haven't been very careful with your coverage of this very serious situation, which is why you were shown in Noah's video. I will continue supporting the channel, your work is amazing, please work on how you cover certain things though!

[@ZaxTax-h8t]

No

[@dimitri7615]

It’s worth noting Noah does the exact same thing.

[@irem7651]

A yes Noah Samsen a really credible source of information

[@exilemorin04]

yenno it’s dunno how the ones always saying this stuff like “you missed things” yet you don’t even mention the “things” in question at all. If it was worth mentioning surely you would have said something about it in this comment but naw just make an ad about that Noah dudes video, not all of us wanna waste time watching an hour long video.

[@KOOK_78]

@@exilemorin04 never said he missed anything or told him to watch Noah's video, I said Omnis coverage wasn't very thorough, especially for such a serious situation dealing with Doxxing, and that Noah's video included Omni for a reason. Also, if you're a fan of Omnis, you know he makes over hour long videos quite often, so using the lack of time reasoning is just a lazy excuse to not hear someone out. Again, I'm a fan of Omnis, I don't want him to unintentionally come off a certain way because I love his work. I think that as a channel known for providing news to people, Omni should pay more attention to the situations he talks about. I mean, he brought up Noah's video and yet didn't discuss it at all, but immediately read TBYS' post against Noah's video. The video Omni DIDN'T watch. It's not great work. I was simply disappointed. Nothing more.

[@joshwinnnnnn]

While our boy has a cynical and defeatist attitude towards the US government taking action towards certain things (and understandably so), I hope the nintendo-gmod situation inspires people to act towards enacting change. People express their dismay over certain things, but they sometimes hesitate because they are too confortable and are afraid of the consequences of fighting for change. In my view, some things are worth fighting for, even if things don't go your way.

[@Greenhawk4]

its not nintendo its someone impersonating and abusing the dmca system. you can look it up if you want more info.

[@Blast1314]

This is something that people have forgotten about the Stellar Blade controversy is that Shift Up said it wouldn’t be censored in any region, that’s the biggest problem is that they broke there word, that’s the problem, not the Boobs and Gore but Shift Up going back on there word

[@trentrogers63]

This man Omni looks like Dr. Evil petting his cat

[@Hollowdude15]

People are right about the problem with the stellar blade game because they created a problem by changing something that did not need to be change at all and great video Omni :]

[@Africa893]

idk what you expected it's a ps5 exclusive. Sony has been aggressive about this shit for 6 years now, if you got burned by this idk what to tell you, you have the memory of a goldfish lol. Accept that your games are gonna get fucked with or stop buying sony's shit.

[@Slyslug]

God i hate grummz so much. I wish azmon would stop glazing him so he could pass in peace.

[@lifadysi9418]

Big L for Nintendo

[@jaidora]

What makes me upset about the Stellar Blade censorship is that we have it as a Sony exclusive first and the developer’s answer the censorship, I think it was something like “this is what we ultimately decided will be as the final uncensored version”, frames it so that any future releases or ports will also be the same as before. That’s also not going into the double standards that mods have been getting heat for, like the ones that make women look hotter in BG3 and whatnot so you can imagine how admins would react if Stellar Blade gets mods that make Eve look even more revealing.

[@thegreatpxmlord8342]

People often look at situations in a bubble and get upset when "politics" are brought into it. But almost everything we engage with is political, and it's almost impossible to separate it from the situations itself. So when content creators use words like "woke" or "leftist" it's impossible not to associate them with the right wing when those are terms are commonly used as dog-wistles to people with other conservative beliefs.

[@dingding2653]

Uhhh… last time I checked they’re not dog whistles… they’re just phrases used by right wingers 💀💀💀

[@electricion712]

People most likely wouldn’t that upset with Stellar Blade if Shift Up didn’t announce that the game was going to be uncensored in all regions 2 day before release. When first launched Sony tried to be sneaky and add a day one patch the censored the gore and Eve’s outfits. What worse is the game will automatically update even if you are playing the physical version so anyone doesn’t want the update are forced play the game with their PS5 offline.

[@justanidiotmk2749]

The actual useful part of Noah's video shows how much TBYS chop shopped the original videos by Illy. Shows how much of a rabid leafy clone content farm TBYS is.

[@SandwitchZebra]

TBYS’s defense on Twitter is that it “wasn’t important” and he “wanted to condense her argument” when he cut out a three-second piece of information specifically made to make her look worse. When she mentions “food is just food” he cut out a bit where she basically says “obviously if it’ll endanger your health then watch your diet” All those comments about “well guess she’s telling diabetics to fuck themselves” and “guess if you’re morbidly obese you can eat as much as you want” have aged amazingly because it shows none of them watched her video either. Same for every single drama channel who covered it.

[@joezilla101]

Which is

[@reshiee69]

and omni ignoring the video supporting Ily, and then spends 9 minutes reading tbys attempt at receiving pity is literally ☠️☠️☠️

[@justanidiotmk2749]

Edited to clarify ​@@joezilla101

[@trial_with_an_error9687]

​@@reshiee69 Very strange choice to ignore almost anything the defends Ily or any evidence Noah brings up but then to also dedicate 9 minutes to reading out TBYS' statement. Kinda an idea of whose side Omni is really on

[@egodeath2008]

If you said that you put the illymation situation behind you, why would you go on to talk about it and make it a mainpiece in the videos title?

[@InfernoOmni]

So people can go to Noah's video itself to get more context. Without the coverage, some people may not know that the video exist.

[@kyouzama]

At this point, Modders will be the saviors for Stellar blade.

[@SleepyMook]

Can’t wait to get the PC port on a sale.

[@kyouzama]

@@SleepyMook hopefully... unless it's another console exclusive game.

[@derpaderp8984]

I totally believe that it wasn’t shift up that did the censorship because if that was true they would’ve censored their most popular game, before stellar blade, nikke. Just look at half the character models for nikke and tell me that shift up decided to censor stellar blade. It was Sony 100% that did the censorship and you can’t change my mind

[@electricion712]

I also think Sony force Shift Up to censor the game but Shift Up has censored Nikke in the a few times in the past. Tencent own 20% percent of Shift Up and Tencent forced Shift up to censor a few characters.

[@Timidogbumplurker]

Basically think before you sleep was a grifter who made more videos when he got a reaction. But then illymation is stupid enough to give a reaction. Theres stuff cut out of think before you sleeps before you sleeps video. He says he didn’t insult her while calling her a homeless woman. … so he knew there was people harassing her and will use any excuse to do so.. but he went on with the video? I don’t care if you disagree i just think him saying he didn’t insult her is dumb.

[@jeremyleyland1047]

Sex sells. If it bleeds, it leads. If they aren’t willing to have the content in the game they need to not advertise via demo that it’s something you will get if you buy it. The studio looses trust with its audience. This may be a short term gain allowing it to appeal to a wider audience, but it will be a long term damage to the studio as people won’t trust what is being advertised

[@isimioyekunlemarktaiwo3643]

Lol sorry but changes of a game after a demo is common, this is laughable because the content that they are fighting for, if it is game mechanic or reduced items, area or stages i would understand but someone is less revealing? Then you need your priorities checked, and people got too much time on their hands..again, changes in videogames after a demo is not new and if they are complaining about this, better complain about the rest..but you know why they aren't complaining because they content that is "cut off" isnt their focus..so please it is what people are saying, these people need to touch grass.

[@lon8]

@@isimioyekunlemarktaiwo3643 It's not changed from the demo, but from the released game. The disk version of the game didn't have the changes, it's applied through a patch.

[@Syllaren]

​​@@isimioyekunlemarktaiwo3643 if this was about seeing a pelvic bone itself, these people have pron. It isn't about what was censored, it's it being censored at all. Stellar blade was all about the lack of censorship during their advertising push. Yet Sony still decided to poke it's nose in. They can say it was design, but the people who made nikke are never going to tone things down. This was Sony telling people to chill, and consumers are absolutely tired of publishers dictating what is one to consume. In my book a publisher should have absolutely zero influence in the creative process. You're there to advertise/fund, and make a disproportionately huge chunk of profits in return. You aren't a game developer.

[@esosaodiase4482]

It’s about the principal of the matter. Not the fact that people wanna see a sexy outfit. I don’t get why people reduce everyone’s opinion to that when people demonstrably say something else. It’s like people don’t pay attention to what people actually say -_-​@@isimioyekunlemarktaiwo3643

[@jeremyleyland1047]

@@isimioyekunlemarktaiwo3643 you don’t usually change what you are actually selling though? Like making it so you could only steal specific cars in GTA, like you still get to do the GTA thing but the demo let me take any car. If you are selling a product regardless of what the product is, and then don’t deliver what you are selling as advertised, you fall into potential legal issues as well as trust issues. There is the idea that they are going to sell you a mod or DLC that returns the game to the demo level of content for more money. (It hasn’t been announced, but knowing the industry… it’s probably going to happen)

[@sarahtelles1931]

Good for the net Neutrality thing. I hope one day we also get back a hefty fine for websites and social media who steal and sell.their users data.

[@napstatem8148]

idc if small stuff gets censored in a game as long as the story and gameplay is fun and cool ill play it

[@theSato]

On its own, the Stellar Blade thing is "minor", however, on principle, it's a big deal. It was censored to appease people who weren't even the target demographic, at the very final hour, with a day 1 patch. Kowtowing to this is basically saying "censorship of creative vision & changing what's promised in the trailer is just fine as long as it quietens any people yelling on twitter".

[@xenophacilus5895]

Didn't Shift Up advertise Stellar Blade as a game with no censorship?

[@jaidora]

They did and the response isn’t good; I think almost everyone unanimously believes that Sony had something to do with it but the developer’s response had people conflicted

[@GothamThotSlayer]

​@@jaidora it's fair to think Sony has a hand in this solely on the fact that the disc version is uncensored. If Shift Up intentionally did what they without Sony's involvement then the disc version would be censored as well. It just means that their original ideal of this game is uncensored. NDAs and clauses from contracts can also be the blame

[@StrawhatOrta]

While I don't mind the redesigns, I understand why some people are angry. If anything, give people the option for the costume variations and gore. One thought I had is if this is more about appeasing ratings boards of other countries? For example, CERO, Japan's game ratings group, goes harshly on violence. The Dead Space remake didn't release there and Mortal Kombat hasn't been officialy released there since MK Trilogy, and that was in 1996! All because of the gory nature of them. Sakurai had also said before that development on smash ultimate was tricky with female characters because of CERO. Hence the altered designs on Pyra and Mythra, among others. All to preserve their desired rating. It's possibly because of CERO that Mai from SNK didn't make it either. But it might be Sony being weird and selective with this. Some games are more censored than others. Omega Labyrinth, for example, is more censored on PS4 than other systems. And I think this is more frequent on non western games. Tl;dr: It might be Sony, the ratings boards from other countries might be stupidly strict, or both! I'm cool if they made the "censored" stuff options.

[@Myriad_Genesis]

For real. Even though it's up in the air about who is responsible for censoring Stellar Blade, it's understandable why people think Sony is behind it because they have a history of censoring games (specifically those from Asia). Hell, one of my favorite game series, Senran Kagura, died because of Sony's censorship.

[@StrawhatOrta]

@@DgSezn Thanks for that. I'll edit my comment. Can you point me to where you found that, too? I'd like to see that as well.

[@Myriad_Genesis]

@DgSezn I'm aware that Asia does censor as well. It still doesn't make it right, but since I live in America, I'm gonna voice my opinions about what's going on in my side of the pond. Plus, it doesn't really feel optional when the choices are a) never go online again, or b) get your game censored. If it were truly optional, we'd have toggles.

[@Myriad_Genesis]

@@DgSezn I mean, there was a Twitter/X post that literally said the game would be uncensored in every region. To put that out there and then censor the game seems very disingenuous.

[@Myriad_Genesis]

@StrawhatOrta There wasn't any video like that. The only video we got is him saying the changes in the day one patch for the costumes were the intended designs, even though there's evidence that proves otherwise. I.E the Holiday Bunny outfit being uncensored with an unpatched copy of the game, some in-game icons for the costumes not matching the altered versions, and a tutorial screen literally showing Eve's bare legs for her costume Moutan Peony. If I'm wrong, I'd like a link for the video.

[@onceuponamelody]

If Disney did KH like the old fashioned Disney movies where they mixed 2D and live action, they would finally dig themselves out of the whole that they dug with Wish.

[@xXxGR33NDR3AMSxXx]

It's not about how much is being censored or what is being censored. The fact that you and others don't particularly care shows that they're getting what they want. Soon it'll be be the norm for them to show you one thing and give you something else. You like jiggle physics? They'll temper that down until slowly but surely it doesn't exist. You like shooting games? They'll orange tip the guns next, and slowly make the games with nerf guns

[@DragonEdge10]

That is what we call a slippery slope fallacy. Regardless of your stance on this specific instance, to claim that this would somehow set a precedent of censorship is markedly in the territory of the slippery slope fallacy, because at the end of the day what matters is not in fact censorship or whether it exists, but rather what amount of perceived censorship there is (regardless of whether there is any objectively) and whether consumers care enough about it. Censorship of sexual content by nature is less cared about for the majority of casual gamers, especially in a case like SB where it's objectively speaking so minimal that people only really care on principle (or because culture war grifting). If it did get changed to the point where Eve was literally in the most modest outfit ever with no sex appeal, I'm willing to bet that would actually have tangible financial repercussions and affect their sales, which is why they would never do that. Similarly, there will literally never be an instance of a game getting censored from real guns to nerf guns, because that level of change marks a complete shift in perception for the game and by extension likely shifts the entire market demographic. The demographic that is interested in the mature shooters will also not just disappear, so even IF a company decides to completely obliterate their existing fanbase (which, without some extreme external factors would never happen) by eventually moving from bloody shooting to nerf guns, someone else will simply take up that vacuum and release their own game to fill that role. Gaming doesn't exist in a closed and planned market, the "they" that you're claiming will censor everything until it's fisher price can do it all they want but others will take up their old role so long as the market for it exists. People will vote with their wallets in regards to what they care about being censored/changed, so regardless of where you stand on the matter on principle, it's a foolish and fallacious argument to equate it to a slippery slope. Just the same as how a lack of censorship on gun violence in games doesn't lead to a slippery slope of IRL gun violence, it's regarded as a fallacy in almost every situation for the very reason. Should it ever be the case that such levels of censorship do become the norm, that's not an inherent issue that's to do with censorship, that's simply the state of the gaming market and what consumers by and large want, or at the very least they don't care about the things that are being censored/changed. To be clear, I am NOT weighing in on whether the censorship should exist, nor do I even want to remotely engage in that conversation. But if you're gonna engage in this discussion, don't use fallacious arguments to fearmonger and pretend as if your stance is some noble must-have stance against the tyranny of some boogyman oppressor that will have a vice grip on the media we consume if we don't fight back. This is the games market, a generally free market with little to no real regulation outside of age guidelines, not a totalitarian government.

[@xXxGR33NDR3AMSxXx]

@@DragonEdge10 I view it as incremental coercion. Then when people finally are feed up with the current situation, the game distributers will point to the several instances of games that were altered and sold well based off of hype or a dedicated fan base as validity. I personally don't have a dog in the fight, but I am willing to state my opinion on a topic. A developer promising one thing and delivering another is a slippery slope, even if it was the publisher who forced the changes (though we'll most likely never know because of a non-disparagement clause). I'm not here to fear monger anything. I just know most people will say "eh, it's not that bad", until it is that bad. The free market isn't as free as you'd believe. We're constantly being coerced by marketing tactics

[@Cerderius]

The issue is the censorship is inconsistent between Western and Eastern games.

[@jamertheramer240]

From what I can gather after watching your video on TBYS and Noah's on the situation. I have a feeling that NEITHER TBYS nor illy watch videos lmao Not being an annoying centrist here, but Noah didn't accuse TBYS of doxxing NOR said it was his intention to dox. Tl;dr: His video was saying that TBYS' video left out important parts of her video and his audience has sent hate her way AFTER his vid. Also, websites targeting her for her race and her weight. Tbh, it really doesn't matter in the end because people just want to feel like Internet warriors instead of touching grass.

[@darzinth]

Sony does actually hate on sex in games. They shutter studios year by year.

[@OlaAremu]

I miss when goon meant underling...

[@trust3474]

Omni is 100% right on kingdom hearts. Putting all of the games on different platforms and then making the moblie games be lore relevant was one of the worst decisions they could have made. I tried watching all of the story moments in the mobile game(s) and couldn't get through them because it's simply that boring.

[@Bootleg7GrandDad]

HEY tbh I from seeing this thru I am not taking pity on TBYS with this one mate and watching Noah Samson's video: Think before you DOX, Wow, this guy cannot take accountability for anything even after I see that tweet damn lol

[@Roze_aye]

The thing that really sucks about the nintendo thing is that, like you said, the stuff we make with ips strengthens them just as much as nintendo's own stuff. LOOK AT SONIC!! Sonic is my favorite franchise of all time, always has been, always will be. And not everything that I remember fondly about this franchise is official. Sonic fan animations from the 2000s, sonic generations mods, youtubers playing things and making dumb content about it. Fan games. all of it. Strengthens the community. and if theres no community behind it, we are eventually going to stop playing your stuff. a big portion of the fun we have with your brand is expressing it and having our own fun with it amoungst ourselves

[@splitsee2526]

when you realise that some drama are stupid as hell from the ilymations tbys and noah situation, and that you should probably dedicate more of your life to actually living your life instead of butting in at other peoples useless dramas that devolve into a complete ramble fest from both sides

[@promisinger15]

Kinda weird to dismiss Noah's words but then read an entire response to them. Omni if you wanna do news/commentary, you need to be more thorough. I highly doubt this was intentional, but you've done way more to boost the words of a charlatan than you have the person who's actually being victimized here.

[@H1nted]

The fact that omni says "I have a video on illy hope I dont get striked for that 😅" shows how biased the whole situation is. Literally TBYS mocked her, on how she dresses, how she eats, and how she wears her hair. You can qualify it as "criticize" but the thing is, illy video is an animation. If you sant to criticize the video, cool. But going out of your way and trying to find pictures of the creator to give "criticisms" is just plain bullying...so if omni did that yeah maybe he will get striked...again "hahah I might get striked as well 😅😅😅😅" is such a low hanging fruit.

[@BarbiTheCat]

Your take on the first story is severely flawed since you refuse to actually watch Noah's video on the topic you are covering

[@apexknight9356]

I watched Noah video and it actually made me realize how scumy TBYS was in depicting Illy as a danger to children. I mean, I already found him to be a weirdo since he’s part of the anti woke crowd. But the fact that he’s trying to downplay his influence on the people doxxing her is pretty shitty. He knows his viewer base and he purposely portrayed her as a “unhinged triggered woke commie trying to silence criticism” to get clicks from the anti woke crowd. All Illy did was talk about her personal experience with her body and TBYS spun it as woke propaganda.

[@chaserseven2886]

30:44 that image slaps hard

[@dedennebroz3567]

TBYS shouldn’t attack a smaller channel than his. His channel is 2x larger than Noah’s

[@ZaxTax-h8t]

Thus is ironic right?

[@dimitri7615]

Because everyone knows if you have less fans then someone you are immune to criticism.

[@dedennebroz3567]

@@ZaxTax-h8tyeah it’s ironic lol. TBYS made this argument in his video about Illy. No one is immune to criticism on the internet

[@ventispore]

Thanks Omni, Merry twinkle stars

[@Salvatorez1980]

Last time I was this early they put me in the incubation chamber

[@semplybalanced3210]

TBYS is gaslighting tf out of all of you. How sick.

[@jeremyusreevu237]

Bruh. Did you not watch the video?

[@honeyswann]

I’m so TIRED of the Ily v TBYS drama. It’s so dragged out and unnecessary. Why do sides always have to be taken? Grey areas can NEVER appear for some reason and politics appear randomly. It’s so annoying and unnecessary. I’d rather see petty fun drama than this.

[@ZaxTax-h8t]

This IS petty drama.

[@chaserseven2886]

because one side is always more right then the other

[@Archrid]

​@@ZaxTax-h8t I think the inclusion of the word "fun" with the drama is pretty relevant here. The drama might be petty, but it definitely isn't fun.

[@honeyswann]

@@ZaxTax-h8t emphasis on the fun part

[@honeyswann]

@@chaserseven2886 in some occasions yea but a lot of the times , it’s all about perspective and certain facts present . In this case I can see both sides and so have a bias for Ily but at the same time, there’s never any adult nuanced convo you know?

[@michelletran8242]

in regards to the dude talking bout the stellar blade situation: tbh I could've gone without that super long awkward sex scene with abby in the last of us 2 so i don't think its the best example of showing what people are okay with LOL

[@arrowpaw1847]

2:10 I can't stress this enough, this didn't "become" a political debate, TBYS is a political channel that called Illymation is a political term in his videos, it started political and was made political by TBYS, thinking otherwise is just wrong. Not to dissolve any blame from Noah who as another political channel getting involved in this definitely escalated the political issues. Although I don't think what Illymation said in her video was inherently political it also just has roots in politics, people on the left are typically with the fat acceptance while people on the right typically aren't.

[@ThatDrowKid]

Im very anti censorship. Because of stuff like this i cant make short characters in games i play because of this (pso2 global and soon blue protocol) they removed whole character body types basically denying the existence of short people like myself which is something im very proud of it is incredibly unnecessary.

[@HowardSkub]

The illymation drama is wild, literally just one person saying “I’m fine being overweight“ and the other person saying “you should lose weight” like wtf lmao? Nobody asked you fr fr

[@nickalso813]

31:50 rare footage of Omni correcting himself

[@brandonwhite562]

Im anti censorship on a lot of things. This Stellar Blade drama is kinda crazy though. For the past few months we've seen gooners praise the game for having an attractive main character and how it was the rebellion against main stream trends in gaming. Shift Up gave there word that they wouldn't censor themselves, and unfortunately they broke their promise. ItS hard to take all the guys seriously when they say "its about the principle" when one of their main points is the removal of a slur, some blood, and making a sexy outfit 5% less sexy. They're outrage was so big that Sony gave refunds, which almost never happens. The last time I remember that happening was Cyberpunk's launch when the game was almost not playable on consoles. The coomers win once again. I wonder if this change was made by Shift Up without Sony's input, would devs or creators patching games be seen as them censoring themselves. If an artist creates a piece, but the reception of the first draft causes them to tweak the final draft, would that be them censoring themselves cause its against the original vision? In al honesty seems like the best way to solve this is enabling a mode switch for the original and patched versions for players to pick. That way they can appeal to both parties. Im sure all this will be made pointless once the game hits PC in a year or two. All the mods for nudes, slurs, and extra gore will be a few clicks away.

[@isimioyekunlemarktaiwo3643]

In the end, these people have too mcuh time in their hands to make this a bigger deal than it is..games changing after a demo is a norms, not new. The "censoring" is of little relevance..people going on a tantrum because the character 5% less sexy? Lol i cant really take them seriously if this is what they are fighting for.. things like this is reason why they say gamers are unserious.

[@GothamThotSlayer]

The game is still fantastic and very fun to play. I'm against censorship as well but I do believe Sony is involved with the decision. Otherwise the disc version wouldn't be uncensored

[@esosaodiase4482]

I still believe it’s about the principal, regardless of whether you like staring at ass/porn in your free time or not. It’s still just a not okay thing to do in general. And the many people acting like it is is crazy to me tbh. Also can we really stop calling it a “slur” it was a piece of graffiti with the word “hard” that is plastered in multiple areas of the game. And it was unfortunately placed next to a sign with the letter r. I highly doubt they intended for it to just mean the actual “hard r” and it’s completely possible they meant for it to say “harder” or some shit. Why would anyone in their right mind do it intentionally. And the reason why people even know about it isn’t just people “complaining” about it it’s because there were multiple articles taking this ultimately minuscule thing and making it look like the company was the hellspawn of satan for it…which idk….sounds wack to me ngl -_-

[@esosaodiase4482]

Also can we stop acting like people who like porn or lewd content are freaks all of a sudden…especially when the game was literally made to appeal to that crowd……why wouldn’t they care about something that’s marketed towards them?

[@brandonwhite562]

@@esosaodiase4482 I don't have a problem with sexy games or characters. I think the reason know one can take them seriously is everytime they spoke about the game and Eve's design it was them saying "This is what real gamers want. We want me sexy games that are anti-woke." Its cool to have the genre/style of game, but its a bad look when they want the majority of games to like that.

[@ZeroKhaoTiKz]

The Stellar Blade controversy makes no sense to me. Yeah, the "Hard R" should probably go. The outfit that was modified is one of the tamest outfits in the game (by far). And yeah, the blood sucks, but i don't care.

[@SumThingFawful]

Omni, you wonder why it "became" politcal. But you didnt cover her response where she called him a Far Right extremists, or the person feeding her information calling him a far Right extremists. Or you know, reading your original summation from r/KZbinDrama might have have tipped you off there was a politcal bent to it. Maybe the comments on that thread? As for Noah. TBYS and Noah have been beefing for years. They respond to each other every other month.

[@InfernoOmni]

I did. I did an entire streaming covering the entire event. It's since been privated.

[@alphakowaclips]

Guess you haven't seen the "cursed" omni stream about the topic 😅 he has a reason to not cover it

[@SumThingFawful]

@@InfernoOmni Nope, to late for that. But if thats that case why are you "wondering" how it got political? That was the first turn this all took.

[@SumThingFawful]

@@alphakowaclips With all do respect, what you said has nothing to do with what I said.

[@junoantaresofficial]

They, for real, just said "Free the nip" for that signature petition.

[@typonumber8939]

Of course it's the anti woke grifter

[@chloedsmith]

At least you realised it. There are people still moving through this world hating Star Trek Discovery for bringing politics into their precious childhood memories, when they didn't have a damn clue what they were watching. It's very difficult to tell a story worth telling that doesn't touch on anything political, or can't be interpreted in terms of politics, because politics *is peoples' lives.* If you don't think politics involves or affects you, you're just in a group currently privileged. And I do very specifically say *currently* privileged, because as white women in the US are starting to find out, if you don't stay awake, informed and energised to defend your rights, they can be taken right out from under you.

[@ZaraKimori]

Idk this Think Before You Sleep person seems sus. The fact that he made so many videos about illy feels like he’s trying to get his 15 minutes of fame. Now that Noah responded dude is probably hype 😂

[@joezilla101]

By you mean so many you mean 3 in total one criticizing her video, the second one calling her out for mass reporting his channel and the third one for revealing who is responsible for giving illy false information thus leading her to mass report his channel. I think he’s in the right.

[@aloris_]

​@@joezilla101How was it mass reporting when her tumbler only got 97 notes out of her 2 million plus followers? That's less than 0.1% of her subscriber base.

[@joezilla101]

@@aloris_ that’s still an audience there for it’s still mass flagging

[@0zymandias_666]

​@@joezilla101stop slobbering over tbys's dick in every reply.

[@ZaraKimori]

@@joezilla101 feels like he made 3 too many imo. That and this new video coming up which will likely do numbers. He’s got more to gain from this than ily, but that’s just a theory…..

[@2DI0pictures]

Noah & TBYS are like ex lovers at this point. 😂 (Also artistic expression & politics go hand & hand. Ever heard of rap music?)

[@Tertix13]

lol Omni said “Oops all politics 😮”

[@InfernoOmni]

😭

[@peachymiku6432]

Censorship used to bother me, but these days, I could care less most of the time. I see the argument. But when it comes down to it, people are going to complain one way or the other. You can't please everyone. These days, I get more confused than mad. And when it comes to Stellar Blade, I wasn't interested even with the censorship. The game isn't my cup of tea. But if I had to say how I would have felt if it was me... The first is understandable considering how some people get with that word and even then, seems they have a similar issue. The second is confusing to me, but it wouldn't have stopped me from playing it if this was something I was interested in.

[@zorquil]

I feel like the only reason why censorship is starting to get a lot more alarming for people is due to... politics. Again. From my understanding, more US laws are trying to pass bans on restricting NSFW sites, and more sites have been banning NSFW material which leaves those type of artists deplatformed and having to find another site. So now more pushback is starting to appear against NSFW censorship, even if it's more minute than others. Of course, I might be looking too far on the outward, but I usually find that things like these usually domino into other situations and events. It is intriguing that an M-rated game is getting these small bits of censorship though.

[@Welpidk]

There’s no way he can say it’s about censorship and not the nudity when games that are bigger if not equal get banned but then they won’t argue for that game. Balatro was banned from multiple countries for gambling even tho it’s not for money and plenty of bootlegs got passed, not even soft censoring completely removed and banned but no one argued for it. But suddenly when there’s nudity it’s all about the censorship? And who the hypocrite? The company for making the design choice to change up their game they design? Or publishers for showing an already censored section scenes but not allowing cleavage that isn’t censored? The only part I do agree with is with false advertising, they portrayed the game leading up to release with the uncensored outfits and showing off the nudity but if they suddenly switched up then it’s foul play.

[@esosaodiase4482]

Multiple different people who talk about sexual censorship in games also talk about censorship in other things. I imagine the reason some people didn’t talk about balatro wasn’t about the nudity but because it’s an indie game that wasn’t really on their radar? I literally haven’t heard of the game until recently myself and most people I see always talk about how wrong that shit was. Please don’t use one singular example of people not talking about something and make assumptions on that….there’s a lot of other situations you could’ve referenced from the mid 2010’s to now but balatro is the one you chose? 🤦‍♂️

[@esosaodiase4482]

I literally remember when that one horror game with the Winnie the Pooh figure got censored, everyone and their mother talked about it. Even people who are talking about stellar blade rn.

[@minayandere2677]

I mean from my perspective the whole petition thing is what should be done since the developers were selling a narrative that they wouldn't censor the game at all this of course enraged people because it's like going to a burger restaurant ordering a burger that clearly on the picture have cheese and its called a cheese burger and when they bring it out its just a beef patty on a bun because they decided that eating cheese was bad thanks to the constant barking of people that hate cheese. Now that creates a problem doesn't? And the biggest theory is that it got censored because of xenophobic people (don't know about this one chief) but so many people pointed out that Sony haves strict rules about censorship. This censorship also applies to Japanese devs and it mainly for their games. If you want more info look up Sony censorship policy on Japan. And that's mainly the base of that claim

[@minayandere2677]

@DgSezn it's on the devs Twitter they said to the public that they will not censor the game once it came out but they did

[@minayandere2677]

@DgSezn if you want the exact text it's was posted on April 21

[@minayandere2677]

@DgSezn that's the thing if we go by the definition of censorship they turning down the gore is a type of censorship. To "censor" is to review something and to choose to remove or hide parts of it that are considered unacceptable in their way.

[@minayandere2677]

@@DgSezn also it doesn't have to do with marketing since they are only pleasing the bad side of Twitter that will most likely never buy the game. People on Twitter love to boycott stuff that they aren't even a part of.

[@minayandere2677]

@DgSezn I can see your point. Now counter point if it was really a performance issue they would have turn down the graphics and ai behavior as well. Want another example? Just look at the demo that they put out. It runs smoothly and I doubt that blood would be the thing causing performance issues. Another example look at doom, fallout, darksouls.

[@Saint_Kaiser]

You should watch Noah Sampson’s video, or at least some of the more incriminating parts. It really shows how sinister TBYS made his video