Replacing iPhone Battery Now Requires A Spot Welder? - Didn't Go To Plan

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Hugh Jeffreys

Hugh Jeffreys

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@wesandeth
@wesandeth Жыл бұрын
Yes, unfortunately the BMS will have been blown - usually happens when a battery is completely dead (like cut or too badly expanded) great job though - would’ve worked perfectly on a still working but poor battery health phone! Still a ridiculous process for what should be a simple battery replacement
@JustARegularNerd
@JustARegularNerd Жыл бұрын
It’s mind boggling to think less than a decade prior, it was the norm to have user replaceable batteries. I even had a 2012 tablet, a Google Nexus 7, with a back that just simply clipped off and the battery was right there with a modular connector, and it was easy for tween me to swap out, not too different from working on a laptop.
@thebyzocker
@thebyzocker Жыл бұрын
@@JustARegularNerd i mean you just have to look at most thinkpads, the batteries are as replaceable as a usb stick
@orieraymond1263
@orieraymond1263 Жыл бұрын
Why are people still using iPhone? I don't understand
@miku6921
@miku6921 Жыл бұрын
@@orieraymond1263 I used iPhone for about 5 years and fully understand why some people use it, it has a simple OS! Some people like that. Personally just swapped back to samsung recently due to some MAJOR issues with my old 13 Pro
@um8440
@um8440 Жыл бұрын
@@miku6921 I have never own an iphone, only samsung s5 is my best phone, now im on motorolla.
@MiisterShane
@MiisterShane Жыл бұрын
"Replacing a battery is dangerous. So we'll make it even more dangerous" - Apple
@SlartiMarvinbartfast
@SlartiMarvinbartfast Жыл бұрын
And even more environmentally unfriendly.
@cosminandreimatei756
@cosminandreimatei756 Жыл бұрын
@@SlartiMarvinbartfast And basically making a little bomb as phone
@GurkenbauerTim
@GurkenbauerTim Жыл бұрын
Isn’t it more like "Let us do the dangerous battery replacement while you file for a credit to pay us!"
Жыл бұрын
Apple didn’t create this method of replacing a battery
@tbqhwyf
@tbqhwyf Жыл бұрын
@ but they used it in a product didn't they? They could've made it easy and less dangerous, and I can't think of a reason to not do that
@ljessecusterl
@ljessecusterl Жыл бұрын
Apple's "self repair" is a hilarious joke meant simply to appear like they give a damn about Right to Repair. Even as a certified Apple tech with WISE certification and seven years in the biz, I was still shocked at just how ridiculous the process was to simply replace a battery as an authorized third-party repair center. Just doing the required process for paperwork took 8x-10x what the actual repair took. It's maddening that people still buy these devices.
@thedawner6311
@thedawner6311 Жыл бұрын
If you bite an apple, and leave it in the air for how long apple has been standing on top, it'd be rotten to the core, so ofc they'd do such things.
@blakegriplingph
@blakegriplingph Жыл бұрын
'Tis more a publicity stunt than a sincere move to open up repairs for their devices. You're still beholden to them with their official "repair" program.
@romevang
@romevang Жыл бұрын
You say its maddening that people buy these devices but that dismisses the fact that Apple devices (when not needing repairs) work really well. If these devices weren't any good... no one would buy them. The anti-repair mantra would just be the icing on the cake.
@ljessecusterl
@ljessecusterl Жыл бұрын
The walled garden isn't a selling point.
@TheLongDon
@TheLongDon Жыл бұрын
@@romevang Lol, they're well polished shit. It attracts those that think shiny is pretty
@NITRO_PRO
@NITRO_PRO Жыл бұрын
Another quality video by Hugh Jeffrey’s. A man who actually cares about devices.
@mudchute4dlr
@mudchute4dlr Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@Qwerty-uiop
@Qwerty-uiop Жыл бұрын
@@mudchute4dlr Agreed
@olimpather
@olimpather Жыл бұрын
I genuinely hate Apple at this point in time.
@JonathanGameHD
@JonathanGameHD Жыл бұрын
@@olimpather i've always hated apple and their stupid "security measures" which literally feel like some helicopter parents.
@SingTodayi
@SingTodayi Жыл бұрын
Spot welder for this!!?? Oh man! You are clearing out of knowing how to solder and far from electronics. You could have easilly used the solder station tip with flux and detach it in seconds. Also it was same procedure to solder it back to a new accumulator. What a mess dude! OMG.
@markmurphy3578
@markmurphy3578 Жыл бұрын
I would like to see you attempt this again but with a battery that is just worn out. At least it would prove that the technique works and that volatile memory isn’t the problem. But to be honest I’m amazed at the tools that are available now! Excellent work
@roguewave1060
@roguewave1060 Жыл бұрын
"You will own nothing (not even the right to repair your *own* phone) and will be happy," love, Klaus and Tim.
@vincere_
@vincere_ Жыл бұрын
*Germany FTFY
@МелашРо
@МелашРо Жыл бұрын
and they do it. haha Klaus, nice programming
@digm0repaka
@digm0repaka Жыл бұрын
We do these cell swaps at work in a large volume, the method you performed is for older models(Xs, Xr, SE2020, etc). On 11 and up you need a tag on cable in line in addition to the original BMS to fool it.
@mudchute4dlr
@mudchute4dlr Жыл бұрын
Compare this to what used to be around 7 second repair, its insane. I understand why they might have used some more adhesive, but this- do i need to go further, you already know
@RickOchet12345
@RickOchet12345 Жыл бұрын
Hi Hugh, I've tried repairing a couple of phones (screens/battery) feeling empowered by your channel. I'd love to see you try this again with a different BMS. It's a shame it's become this difficult; but when there's a will there is a way!
@sabretoothau
@sabretoothau Жыл бұрын
Bummer that it didn't work but it was still interesting to see the procedure. Do you have plans to do a follow-up BMS swap attempt with another battery?
@HughJeffreys
@HughJeffreys Жыл бұрын
Hopefully. I didn't have any more phones or batteries to test with which is why i only did the one in this video.
@joemodified3649
@joemodified3649 Жыл бұрын
Hi Hugh, You need an intact battery to do this repair, “service” but has a working BMS and cell, you have to copy the data first ung J7000 then remove the BMS, then spot weld it to the new cell, then write the copied data to the new welded cell.
@drcyb3r
@drcyb3r Жыл бұрын
To prevent people from changing battery BMS boards in the future, they might store the encrypted key in a RAM chip so if you remove the cell, they key is gone forever. Would sound like something Apple could do.
@francisco.amorim
@francisco.amorim Жыл бұрын
You’re a serious candidate to be hired as a chief engineer for Apple products.
@_Viking
@_Viking Жыл бұрын
Don't give them any new ideas
@jonathanoxlade4252
@jonathanoxlade4252 Жыл бұрын
Apple will self destruct there phone before long meaning if you change the battery the phone just won't turn on even with a new battery or anything replaced will brick the phone
@Piipperi800
@Piipperi800 Жыл бұрын
The thing is that you should not weld on a pre-calibrated BMS onto a battery anyways. It can lead to the battery getting overcharged or discharged to a point where it damages the battery, because not all batteries are 100% equal so the BMS has to be calibrated for the specific cell(s).
@平和-v1z
@平和-v1z Жыл бұрын
I love how people still buy from a company who is doing everything in their power to be anti consumer... Exceptional content, keep it up!
@robinsattahip2376
@robinsattahip2376 Жыл бұрын
Pure stupidity, people buy them to be seen with them. They're as useless as an overpriced Rolex watch.
@Kilohercas
@Kilohercas Жыл бұрын
usually BMS needs to have power while swamping cells. if power is gone, BMS controller will disable itself. This is same for notebook cell replacement, when you install new batteries, it gives same errors. But if you do so BMS can't detect battery is swapped ( like supplying 4.2 to correct location while changing, it will work as it should.
@JoshuaG
@JoshuaG Жыл бұрын
At this point , i just wish the development on 'Graphene Solid-State' batteries can become available as soon as possible, that way, even if some of us mess up, it wont have the same destructive thermal runaway like 6:21 🤣 just saw ChargerLAB's video on the battery cell they got recently, its impressive, even when stabbed multiple times, there was no smoke..
@Xw3dn3sd4yX
@Xw3dn3sd4yX Жыл бұрын
Granted, this replacement may not have gone correctly, but I've learned WHY it didn't work and I think that's a success. High quality content here :D
@hedw1gP
@hedw1gP Жыл бұрын
Be aware that iPhone 11 and up, the BMS data is encrypted, you can’t reset cycle counts. BMS will force decrease battery health. Typically 500 cycles decrease 5%, which means you cannot restore full capacity (if you replaced the cell with a small original one). This limit does affect hardware. However, if “Not genuine” message appears, you actually get full capacity. The phone won’t limit its charge to a certain amount. Usually this method is used with a bigger capacity cell than the original cell, in order to compensate that 500 5% limit. After replacing the cell, BMS still has old health percentage, but BMS will recalibrate itself eventually. Sadly, if you replace with the original capacity cell paired with a 80% health BMS, you only get 90% available for you to use.
@kikihun9726
@kikihun9726 Жыл бұрын
That welder is pretty ehh. No warning time before welding? Just straight power pulse when you short the wires?
@asmobile9587
@asmobile9587 Жыл бұрын
I think the new battery that you soldered to the old bms is faulty because a normal iPhone battery should be at least 3.7v, there's a special device called Sunshine SS-915 to charge and activate the battery instead of jumping it from another battery.
@garrettlison4992
@garrettlison4992 Жыл бұрын
As much as I'm not surprised by this outcome or the need to do such a thing to try to trick this phone into working 100%, I find myself laughing a bit that a company made a tiny spot welding machine for such a repair. I've seen that QianLi logo before on many of the other diagnostic stuff at the shop and it's pretty decent, all things considered. Gotta love it when a company takes it upon themselves to try to solve Apple's problems.
@kam70111
@kam70111 Жыл бұрын
Problems or mischief?
@anthonyhutton9174
@anthonyhutton9174 Жыл бұрын
I had a phone repair shop from 2010 to 2016 and personally fixed over 16K devices. I saw this coming when Apple mated the fingerprint ID to their phones - I could replace the home button but the fingerprint ID lost its functionality. I knew it was just a matter of time before they made the iPhones non-repairable by 3rd party shops like mine. It was great while it lasted and I'm glad I no longer have to deal with Apple's under-handedness. (By the way, I must've had at least 30 batteries explode on me. I recommend wearing protective eyewear if you mess with phone batteries.)
@josephcsible
@josephcsible Жыл бұрын
This also points out Apple's dishonesty in a really nice way. They claim their battery anti-repair "features" are for safety, but they actually make replacing your battery more dangerous than before.
@flamingkillermc2806
@flamingkillermc2806 Жыл бұрын
You should look at REWA videos, they do a good job showing the iphone 12 screen replacement that removes those messages, and bms batteries transfer.
@MyAviation540
@MyAviation540 Жыл бұрын
I had to do this with my 13 pro after Apple refused to service my phone due to the screen being non genuine on their side, even though it was pulled from a functioning device it’s really annoying that apple goes to this length when there moto is reusing as much as they can to help out the planet if they wanted to help out the planet the should make there phones user fixable instead of making people buy new phones great video Hugh
@tioswift3676
@tioswift3676 Жыл бұрын
Yeah their motto is “We’re fake AF”. It’s 100% about the bottom line, not the environment
@wysiwygscomputerrepository4905
@wysiwygscomputerrepository4905 Жыл бұрын
As an employee of Best Buy Geek Squad and an "Apple certified technician" (lol) here in the states, I can say that even 7:30 is not a viable option for restoring the battery functionality. Apple's repairs operate on a hierarchy, and Apple will only fix a single fault with the device. If you have any other problem (say, a bad battery and a cracked screen), Apple will classify that as a "Multiple part failure" device and opt for a full phone replacement. Same goes if other faults are found, even if the customer does not want those repaired (IE cracked rear glass on an iPhone 11 and older). Apple will not let you just get one issue fixed. They must fix everything, which means that unless you JUST have a cracked screen or JUST a bad battery, you're going to be looking at a full phone replacement every single time. Additionally, any tampering with the phone (at least if Apple can tell during their repair or if you disclose that information to them) will immediately result in a requote for a full phone replacement, as well as a nullifying of Applecare coverage, meaning they will charge you the FULL PRICE of the device in question, regardless of your condition. For this particular phone, since it's been repaired by someone that isn't Apple or one of its "certified repair centers" (IE places like Geek Squad here in the US), and is displaying warning messages, Apple's diagnostics will immediately kick it to a full phone replacement due to multiple failures, and if 3rd party repairs are discovered, at full price instead of the $99 they charge if you have Applecare+. That's the world we live in now
@will1am905
@will1am905 Жыл бұрын
Any chance the bms needs continuous current flowing to prevent locking up? Preventing exactly what you are trying to accomplish here? I'd like for you to try with a functioning battery beforehand if you are up for it.
@Druid_Plow
@Druid_Plow Жыл бұрын
BMS might also work like an old eprom exposed to light when it is disconnected from power. Data wipes never to be recovered.
@calvinficenec7538
@calvinficenec7538 Жыл бұрын
Whenever a company complains that repair could cause safety hazards, they should just look at what they’ve created.
@stephaniethebatter7975
@stephaniethebatter7975 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, someone should dump some spicy pillows encased in difficult-to-open iPhones on Apple's doorstep and tell them that if they simply made the batteries more accessible, the spicy pillows would not be as much of a danger.
@Luscious3174
@Luscious3174 Жыл бұрын
Hey Hugh! Sony Xperia Pro 512 smartphone - have you had a chance to look at this one and what is your opinion as far as repairability goes for Sony's smartphones??? I own both Apple and Samsung currently and really don't like either, yet these are older devices easier to tinker with then what they are selling today. I would gladly get the Sony if they are better for long term ownership and don't become throwaways when the battery dies. Keep up the awesome job mate 👍👍
@toms.1417
@toms.1417 Жыл бұрын
Good try mate!! I hope in the future you'll get another opportunity to try this out on a phone that doesn't have such a badly damaged original battery. This looks like an interesting technique to explore further.
@waldemarma8239
@waldemarma8239 Жыл бұрын
You must activate the battery before first use. Apply voltage from the power supply to the connector. Then, before inserting the battery, you must connect the service power supply to the motherboard and start and turn off the phone (so that there is a message about a non-original battery). From model 12 you need a special TAG - after programming it stays in the phone.
@Qogicx
@Qogicx Жыл бұрын
from iphone 11 you need the tag on flex
@shuggiemcg1
@shuggiemcg1 Жыл бұрын
How do Apple and other companies legally get away with this? Can you imagine if you bought a car and could only go to a dealership to change the battery with them as its paired to the car!
@curlyhairdudeify
@curlyhairdudeify Жыл бұрын
Whet you said.... I'm pretty sure car companies are willing on it. Never mind, it happening. I think the Volkswagen Group EV already have such feature.
@danteerskine7678
@danteerskine7678 Жыл бұрын
Dude, are you slow?? Only apple does this. Android manufacturers make it easy to replace their batteries, since there's no battery health, no need for calibration
@PWingert1966
@PWingert1966 Жыл бұрын
Here is a scary scenario for the iPhone 15 that I have heard being discussed in certain dark places. It is proposed that once Apple moves to solid state buttons and a titanium case, they will then weld the whole thing shut so it cannot be opened and is a complete solid sealed unit by replacing the Penta lobe screws with welds. If you crack the glass or damage it, it will be a full phone replacement because you will no longer be able to get into the phone. They are also supposedly adding a tattle tale sensor / microswitch that activates and scrambles all the encryption keys as a failsafe if you do manage to get into the phone. Once that key is changed the phone is bricked. to power this they will have a capacitor to provide just enough power for the scrambler to activate and failsafe signal the encryption chips.
@-sargntclashroyaleandmore-491
@-sargntclashroyaleandmore-491 Жыл бұрын
That sounds like hell
@lapislazz1551
@lapislazz1551 Жыл бұрын
Yet another reason to go android
@chench1lla
@chench1lla Жыл бұрын
AASP and apple care services still have to make money off of field repairs, completely locking the device will cut off this lucrative revenue stream. As we know the world richest company is good at making more money.
@DarkGT
@DarkGT Жыл бұрын
In the laptops if you disconnect the power from the chip, the chip bricks the battery unit.
@allanbarr5186
@allanbarr5186 Жыл бұрын
You need the battery flex adapter to go with the jcv1se programmer to make the aftermarket battery work.
@ufsans481
@ufsans481 Жыл бұрын
Apple: no you can't change the battery you have to over pay for it hugh: haha spot welder go brrrrrrrr
@DZARO
@DZARO Жыл бұрын
Just keep in mind that the BMS may not work because you removed power completely or the previous battery was 100% dead and the voltage dropped to zero. The reason I am saying this is because it could be that some infromation on the battery is stored like RAM, as soon as you remove power, the information used by the iPhone to identify the battery as its own is lost.
@mareksawana356
@mareksawana356 Жыл бұрын
Not true on this baterry
@DZARO
@DZARO Жыл бұрын
@@mareksawana356 battery*
@SesjaZen
@SesjaZen Жыл бұрын
It's same thing in laptops, you can swap cells but once disconnected bms knows to not to communicate againg with motherboard
@RestoreTechnique
@RestoreTechnique Жыл бұрын
Great video Hugh. I've got the same spot welder, haven't used it yet. Shame you were set up from the beginning with a dud BMS board. Next time 👍
@SMRNBIR
@SMRNBIR Жыл бұрын
i agree, just replaced my XR's screen and battery yesterday and this process is so dumb.
@helifynoe9930
@helifynoe9930 Жыл бұрын
Thank goodness I don't have a mobile phone. But I do still have my Palm 505 PDA from way back in 2001. I use it everyday. But I did once have to replace the battery. I had to take out 4 screws, and so it took almost a massive massive 4 minutes to replace the battery.
@divergentus
@divergentus Жыл бұрын
Frustrating - but I'm sure you'll try this again Hugh, you're not one to give up a good challenge! Nice spot welder too. I had a similar experience recently. Canon's original EOS batteries are expensive, so I recently rebuilt my 2016 LP-E6 battery pack that was no longer holding a good charge, and I had to desolder the BMS board once I had taken the pack apart. Cost me a fraction of an original new Canon battery pack (just 2 x 18500 Lithium Batteries at $6 each), and unlike the cheap 3rd party clone packs that have no BMS or protection circuitry, I now have a 'fresh' original pack that charges in a Canon charger, and even reports full health in the camera - I guess removing the old cells somehow reset the health status on the BMS. My only caution about this is the risk of doing a bad job, and having the battery short and catch fire inside my R6, so very much a 'do at your own risk' repair.
@rubenpoort4242
@rubenpoort4242 Жыл бұрын
I de soulderd the battery terminals from the pcb and soulderd the new battery on the pcb. And it worked amazingly!
@VladislavBaglai
@VladislavBaglai Жыл бұрын
Hi Hugh, copying TrueTone data (to a genuine screen) is possible now for iPhone 12/12 Pro and 13 (not 13 Pro) with the latest J1VS programmer.
@cheythompson740
@cheythompson740 Жыл бұрын
There also a possibility that the bms knows once a battery is unsolderd and locks out when reconnecting power to it, honestly by this point I wouldn't be surprised its apple thank God they don't make other day to day items
@StrielokPLsz
@StrielokPLsz Жыл бұрын
i designed a few BMS boards, some IC have protection system that disable cell swap, in ICs with i was working on, there was threshold voltage usually set around cell chemistry breakdown*, so when cell voltage drops under that voltage IC trigger total shutdown for safety, becouse you are cutting board from any voltage source you are trigering "cell death" signal, and when you connect it in to new cell it doesnt allow to use it becouse for IC its marvelously alive and its hazard...or in apple case repair attempt, in my work to get around this i was making this procedure: 1)measure old cell voltage 2)solder to BMS 2 wires connected to power supply 3)apply to BMS --->SAME
@AbdAbdAbdAbd
@AbdAbdAbdAbd Жыл бұрын
as if it couldn't get any harder.
@edstar83
@edstar83 Жыл бұрын
That's what she said.
@joceliz1993
@joceliz1993 Жыл бұрын
youre missing the jc flex for i11 you need to plug the battery to this jc flex for the battery to work
@chebhou
@chebhou Жыл бұрын
I found out the same thing on Siemens laptop battery, the bms is intentionally designed to go bad/wiped when you cut off the battery, Probably they have the firmware on a volatile ram so as soon you cut the power the firmware get lost and the bms microcontroller will have no firmware to work with. The suggested solution is to hook up a temporary voltage source to the bms while doing the transplant.
@ceebee23
@ceebee23 Жыл бұрын
time for a law requiring replacement batteries to be user installable...simply inexcuseable gibberish from Apple and Samsung and co.
@mattb9343
@mattb9343 Жыл бұрын
It is much safer to handle battery repairs\shipping when the battery is in a low charge state. With a near 0 charge the battery will not explode when punctured. You still need to charge back up but that will give you the chance to observe the battery for any sign of failure as it charges and disconnect just in case. If a battery is damaged, this method won't unleash the fury of a full charge when compromised. Just watch for any unusual heating or smoke as your signal to stop charging.
@corktail7900
@corktail7900 Жыл бұрын
that is a pretty ingenious idea. i would like to see a video where all the issues from swapping a logic board are fixed by also switching the controllers and chips responsible for software locks
@mdridyo5391
@mdridyo5391 Жыл бұрын
Ninth
@Hardcrafter
@Hardcrafter Жыл бұрын
Hi. I'm replacing batterys using spot wielder every day. It would've worked for you in it was ipxs/m-ipxr models, for ip11 and above you need additional false flex that you will programme and leave inside with battery.
@drcyb3r
@drcyb3r Жыл бұрын
Somehow here in Germany there are no warning messages. I just fixed an iPhone 12 and it didn't show any message after I replaced the screen. True Tone was missing, but no message. After programming True Tone came back. Maybe they remove the messages due to some laws.
@MichaelVx
@MichaelVx Жыл бұрын
im running my old iPhone 5 using Samsung battery with the BMS of the iPhone for years and it still works until now but the iPhone itself has charging problems even with an original iPhone battery
@ecchioni
@ecchioni Жыл бұрын
Hugh, what is a reliable source for a battery replacement for a Samsung S9+?
@dj_noxxie
@dj_noxxie Жыл бұрын
Ifixit
@devenshrestha5323
@devenshrestha5323 Жыл бұрын
Actually it started from xs series that you need to weld an old bms flex to not get a genuine battery message. After 11 though you need extra I2c flex that you connect in the battery flex and clear all the old data and thats how you get 100% battery health. But like you said, you can damage the bms flex in the process.
@kasuraga
@kasuraga Жыл бұрын
This reminds me of something I ran into at work recently. USB C is getting more common on laptops, and we always joke that one day a manufacturer is gonna lock out 3rd party chargers. We use lenovo usbc chargers cause that's typically what we have the most of for our test benches. I can't remember the specific model, but one of the dell units we got in REFUSED to charge on anything BUT a dell usb c charger. In fact, I couldn't even get the damn thing to BOOT without using a dell charger.
@justinholding02
@justinholding02 Жыл бұрын
Yes Dell is just like Apple. Third party batteries don't work either.
@ByeTech
@ByeTech Жыл бұрын
Dell has been doing that before Apple. The charger sends a signal down one of the three connectors on the charger's cable. There is the outside barrel, inside barrel and inside pin. If you can generate the signal and send it down the line then it will activate the charge circuit. As usual Dell claims it's a protection circuit that third party chargers do not overcharge the battery causing a fire or explosion.
@IntegraDIY
@IntegraDIY Жыл бұрын
I honestly don’t mind the error message for the battery.. only down side is reselling it is more difficult, and generic batteries are usually very bad with fake advertised copacity.
@PCJesus0
@PCJesus0 Жыл бұрын
I've started seeing reprogramers that say they can reprogram the 12 and 13, maybe you could try one of those newer ones?
@mysticlyweird6474
@mysticlyweird6474 Жыл бұрын
Wasnt this originally on the XS? I recall the XS having the same issue but i could be wrong
@8bitnation419
@8bitnation419 Жыл бұрын
Guess we need a way to jailbreak these batteries.
@rastlach
@rastlach Жыл бұрын
could it be that the BMS had to stay charged? when losing change maybe it losses the key?
@ninogen2119
@ninogen2119 Жыл бұрын
Hello hugh, the battery in order to work properly should be 3.7V and more. You shouldn’t jump start it with another battery. Try supplying the battery with 4.2V (charging voltage) from an external power supply. When the battery exceeds 3.7V it should start working properly
@lilPopper
@lilPopper Жыл бұрын
I remember seeing this process on phone repair guru's channel
@d0sk3y
@d0sk3y Жыл бұрын
Love your work! Especially now, when hardware is becoming more and more capable, I am looking at my S23 Ultra (the 12GB RAM variant), and hoping that the battery will last as long as the phone is no longer viable to perform lag-free mundane tasks, which is the specific reason I bought it for. That will never happen, so I am sure I will either lose the IP rating, or I will need to stick to the degraded battery life...
@imadkali
@imadkali Жыл бұрын
I did this with my old sony z5c without spot wilder it works
@theEskalaator
@theEskalaator Жыл бұрын
Technican here. 1. No the BMS does not need to power all the time, it has its data stored and this is legit repair technique. 2. This happens when battery can not communitace with the phone - usually one pin in battery connector is bent, so it does not make a contact. (This is not the case, since the other battery works fine) 3. I think he just broke the BMS by harsh manipulation. They break very easily. Then you need to transplant the chips onto other BMS, but that's obviously even harder.
@tioswift3676
@tioswift3676 Жыл бұрын
So with my iPhone 13 I should be able to replace the battery without any special software or anything?
@andrasszabo7386
@andrasszabo7386 Жыл бұрын
I do this with older laptop and phone battery. Some of them are working after the surgery, some of them fail to work.
@livebrain
@livebrain Жыл бұрын
the link for that tool ? i h8 it when youtubers use tools that dont link to.
@KaliKali216
@KaliKali216 Жыл бұрын
Jeff I think they say it’s better to use a ceramic scissors.
@Windows-Archive
@Windows-Archive 16 күн бұрын
Why did the modified battery fail to work properly in the iPhone 11?
@jurijk.8297
@jurijk.8297 7 ай бұрын
Do you need spot welder or you can solder them together ?
@edstar83
@edstar83 Жыл бұрын
Watching this on my Samsung Galaxy s5.
@kevinnsevinn799
@kevinnsevinn799 Жыл бұрын
Great now my adhd mind will get me going into the wide world of mini spot welding…for about 2 weeks😂
@jonathanjohnson9255
@jonathanjohnson9255 Жыл бұрын
Corret me if I'm wrong, Instead of cutting, why not try to release the metal pad on the bms using soldering iron? It's way cheaper and easier imo
@adibik9809
@adibik9809 Жыл бұрын
Mising the good old days, where we can just remove the battery and put a new one 😂, we just evolved backwards
@srowlands248
@srowlands248 Жыл бұрын
Does it stop all the phone’s hardware/software working as it should if you have an NON genuine Apple battery or is it just the battery health and True Tone function that stop working as it should please??
@robertmarkham6558
@robertmarkham6558 Жыл бұрын
On a Lenovo I tried to replace the batterys, apparently they have clocks on the bms in the battery and if they ever turn off or get disconnected they never show up again.
@DavBotsArcade
@DavBotsArcade Жыл бұрын
Phone Batteries, the forbidden puff pastry.
@iovimaledico
@iovimaledico Жыл бұрын
How far they need to go for people to understand ?
@aleksandersats9577
@aleksandersats9577 Жыл бұрын
this BMS issue isn't only on apple. It's even on laptops. If the battery is too worn or get's too empty the BMS outright refuses to work. And the only way to make it work is to replace it entirely despite the battery itself being okay. Why must this even be a feature?
@isavv_
@isavv_ Жыл бұрын
It's possible that Apple is doing what DJI is doing.. (when you remove power from the BMS, the software in BMS erases.. rendering it useless) and the only way to replace cells is by constantly applying power to the BMS.
@jayringo77
@jayringo77 Жыл бұрын
Interesting that China continues to supply some of the best tools to due true phone repairs. Appreciate the continued attention you're giving this issue in your videos while still focusing on easy to follow instructions for anyone willing to take on the risk of this repair.
@csPinKie
@csPinKie Жыл бұрын
Why interesting? They simple show how innovative the entire world could be if we would abolish intellectual „property“
@vincere_
@vincere_ Жыл бұрын
@@csPinKie Spot-welding devices are not governed by IP laws lmao.
@csPinKie
@csPinKie Жыл бұрын
@@vincere_ sad that you have such a limited thought process. Yes, spot welding devices are not governed by IP laws, but they are neccessary because IP laws exist. Apple hiding behind their propriatary software / encoded hardware and them suing even open source projects into oblivion ( i mean just look at the lawsuits from jailbreak cases) make easy public solutions to the problems they create hard in the western world and require people to take extra steps (like transfering the bms instead of just doing a software swap) instead of easy software solutions
@vincere_
@vincere_ Жыл бұрын
@@csPinKie Cherry-picking Apple as the reason why 'IP laws need to be abolished globally' seems to be a thought process much more inhibited by tunnel vision.
@csPinKie
@csPinKie Жыл бұрын
@@vincere_ excuse me, iam not cherry picking apple. It was just an example which can be transfered to any industry. Just because someone trademarketed an idea earlier doesnt mean that the should have an monopoly on it. The entire internet based industry showed during the last 30 years how well innovation and growth are possible without governmental restrictions
@rev3489
@rev3489 Жыл бұрын
I actually solder them and dont spotweld em. Since the original Battery Tabs are Just soldered to the PCB aswell. This als works If u solder wires to the BMS and Hook the wires Up to a Bench Power Supply. Great for doing Data Recovery in not charging phones.
@jacobkomnath7961
@jacobkomnath7961 Жыл бұрын
Do I have to worry about getting this issue with my iPhone 8. I should Updated to the latest ios
@EVN96
@EVN96 5 ай бұрын
Hey Jeff, what do you think about the new macaron max?
@ShaifulSykes
@ShaifulSykes Жыл бұрын
I’ve been in this issue before . It might be the battery connector issue . When i put a little bit of pressure using my finger after install the battery , the battery health show up
@tristanskylark
@tristanskylark Жыл бұрын
0:05 since XS/XR*
@themadatheist1976
@themadatheist1976 Жыл бұрын
Link to the spot welder? Please.
@robd1365
@robd1365 Жыл бұрын
I did similar on my old 6s plus, using a similar sized cell from an old android phone. It worked, but wasn’t a tidy solution, be it only temporary.
@stevenrisnyovszky1120
@stevenrisnyovszky1120 Жыл бұрын
Whats about the iPhone SE 2020, does this one got the same Problem with a battery swap?
@tjsim001
@tjsim001 Жыл бұрын
Have been looking for a cheap and easy to use spot welder. Where did you get it?
@se7enity648
@se7enity648 Жыл бұрын
Can anybody recommend a reliable spot welder that you would have confidence in using?
@luxury_bahrain3909
@luxury_bahrain3909 Жыл бұрын
I literally did this with a iPhone 4s battery to my iPhone 6 just 2 days ago. But I soldered it instead of using a spot welder
@travelalone3401
@travelalone3401 Жыл бұрын
You have to put a Batter Flex to Detect the Battery
@seanlow2033
@seanlow2033 Жыл бұрын
Don’t ask me how I know, but the resell rates for stolen iPhones from the 11 and up are way down, some shops won’t even accept any iPhone 11s or up - Androids are still open season though.
@crec11254
@crec11254 Жыл бұрын
i also have the problem with my iphone xs after the old battery fried inside and i have no explanation for it the connector of the battery was welded to the one on the board i managed to separate them i ve put a new battery and it wont charge and theres no battery percentage however if i press on the connector it will work or if i put something between the screen and connector when i close it
@clubinhodetecnologiadomate4554
@clubinhodetecnologiadomate4554 Жыл бұрын
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