Obsolete? Think Again - Keeping My Ageing Mac Pro Alive

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[@HughJeffreys]

The poor editing performance was a result of Final Cut Pro, the video files edit flawlessly in DaVinci Resolve. Oddly H.265 actually plays fine in quicktime and has less stuttering in Final Cut Pro. Using BlackMagic RAW Speed Test I get 110p @ 8K Metal and 30p @ 8K CPU rendering performance.

[@RemyShoots]

What's the premiere pro performance like?

[@jimpicins]

Bro gpus Dont like bdsm

[@damiendjohnson]

can i do all that with 2010 Tower?

[@user-gf9uz3vw7h]

How are you connecting the Apple Displays to your graphics cards? What cable/adapters?

[@CJManning86]

Bro... you might get some better performance (other than hardware limitations) if you deep clean that case, repaste the CPUs, upgrade your storage speed (go for 7200rpm drives if they arent' already and keep in mind the NVMe will be limited by the PCIe lanes which are very few and not direct to CPU like modern motherboards. Additionally, the lack of airflow is ridiculous... the NVMe drives are SUBSTANTIALLY cutting off your GPU airflow which most likely causes it to thermal throttle which is most definitely affecting your editing times.

[@MK-ls2jg]

Installs the new gpu Airflow* aight imma head out

[@Maximilian69]

Fr! Poor gpu :(

[@WillFuI]

Exactly

[@f7m001]

Rip

[@PRO_VE]

Lmao

[@pccoldwar9160]

there is pulse edition of sapphire that have better orientation on the aluminum on amd and also probably suggestively better build but yes poor design all for the look madness build lol should have probably gona whit reference design due to poor airflow

[@HughJeffreys]

First 4k video! With plenty more to come. Still have a few 1080p projects in progress so there will be a mix of 1080p and 4K videos over the next few months. For those concerned about my graphics card airflow, the fans actually don't even turn on until its under load. I can put my finger on the metal heatsink while its on and its only slightly warm. Even after spending 8hrs editing this video. So I am not concerned.

[@camman1159]

Do yo have any answers for my 2011 iMac I was wondering what I should do to it should I upgrade the components it has high Sierra and I’m stuck on it just like he is

[@ITAC85]

Alright.

[@crxxpslvyr7887]

can i buy your old gpu?

[@TheYoungestCollector]

You can upgrade anything Best Mac Pro 5,1

[@olivertabone6788]

why cant you just swap around youre 2 drives in the pcie slots and give that gpu some air

[@QuinchGaming]

Tip for dust cleaning - bike pump with ball inflation attachment. Does a pretty good job and its free air!

[@shivkokroo6180]

Normal air has a risk of static. Not advised.

[@QuinchGaming]

@@shivkokroo6180 The static resistances of modern electronics is far greater now, if you're using air to just blast fans, heatsinks etc there's virtually no risk. Having not done the maths, I would imagine its more likely for you to be struck by lightning than to have a component fail from static induced failure from using an air pump to blow dust away.

[@QuinchGaming]

@@shivkokroo6180 for example In a recent test on Linus Tech Tips for example they literally had to put several amps of electric through DDR4 RAM before it failed in any way.

[@meowcula]

@@QuinchGaming it's the voltage that kills it. Static is on over-voltage condition. cmos junctions are still as susceptible to static as they were 20, 30 years ago.

[@QuinchGaming]

@@meowcula please watch the video Linus Tech if you can. Yes, I mixed up voltage & ampage, I'm not an electrician but the miniscule chance of a miniscule voltage discharge from natural air is not enough to kill modern PC components. If you are working in a clean room environment on sensitive technical/medical/scientific electronic components... sure...but in a PC, that's already earthed (plugged in, but not powered) there is virtually no risk.

[@the_wired_fox0217]

5:58 *Me looking at the airflow clearance for the graphics card* *Internally screams*

[@SimonBauer7]

once i looked at this i started choking internaly

[@ps5hasnogames55]

do you expect an apple fan to know how to build a computer? dont be fooled, hes gaga for apple and only pretends to be pro-repair or whatever because ifixit gives him $$$$ to advertize there products.

[@toxicityuser]

@@ps5hasnogames55 just cause he repairs apple products it doesn’t mean he’s an apple fan also, he probably does know how to build a pc

[@vaderarmour]

@@ps5hasnogames55 coming from somebody who still participates in the 'console wars' bullshit

[@namelesske]

@@ps5hasnogames55 That was crude an unnecessary.

[@YeOldeGeezer]

You really NEED to deep clean that and repaste the CPU!

[@jugotocks]

Yeah i bet the thermal paste has long since dried up and the fans inside the heatsinks are probably completely full of dust.

[@saucejuice8968]

That dry and crusty paste is begging to be reapplied

[@markusgotz1237]

@@jugotocks Yeah the thermal paste is probably dryed out but. There are no fans inside the heatsinks. They are passiv xD

[@IdiotRace]

It's got 2 CPU's also he mentioned he upgraded them, which would mean that the thermal paste can't be that old.

[@matthewmcb1089]

@@markusgotz1237 No it uses the case fans to blow air straight into the heatsinks so it's not at all passive, just the fans are mounted to the heatsink

[@mjc0961]

3:06 - That's exceptionally bad. That's one of the screws that keeps the heatsink pressed against the GPU die. That screw being loose means the heatsink isn't seated properly, which means the GPU isn't being cooled as well as it should be.

[@likethewind5088]

Im really surprised you don't own an electric air compressor/duster.

[@Itsoof478]

Also apparently you shouldn't vacuum a PC since it causes a build-up of static electricity

[@googleuseraxel9893]

@@Itsoof478 I guess we can’t *succ* a computer

[@martin_green]

Best investment you will ever make. I have been using one for years on clients computers - used properly, they do an incredible job without issue.

[@AndreySavin]

@@martin_green Can vouch for that. It's even useful in household scenarios, not just computer-related

[@martin_green]

@@AndreySavin I couldn't agree more. I use it to clean out everything ... radiators, electronics, the car and all those places you can't reach. Water-free (unlike compressors) and much more powerful and enviro friendly than canned air.

[@doompod]

Apple's like, "God! How do we get rid of this guy?!?!?!"

[@akidoomar]

Long live Hugh lol

[@BullsayDune]

hahahahahahahahahaha

[@stungun3009]

Include Louis Rossman ;)

[@TiagoWolf]

We should actually say how do we get rid of Apple constant programmed obsolescence...

[@Waddle_Dee_With_Internet]

Hugh is like Jesus ressurecting the phones Apple is like Satan working very hard making their crappy products inability to repair.

[@hellfolf7343]

Apple: *software blocks* Aussie youtuber: "how 'bout no"

[@MXCN_El1011]

more like Dosdude with the "how 'bout no". the legend's been saving outdated mac's since Sierra

[@ErrorDLP]

I built my entire PC out of broken components. The graphics card and motherboard were damaged by water and the CPU had problems with heat. I wouldn't buy a finished PC these days, they are expensive and hardly upgradeable or repairable. We live in a time of waste and that makes me sick. Keep it up, your videos are absolutely awesome 👍.

[@Shauncollier]

this video is simple enough for politicians to understand. Send it to Louis Rossmann, and have him play it at hearings

[@lemau8458]

I second this

[@HeresAtta]

I third this

[@joelmartin2549]

They definitely need to work together.

[@aegonthedragon7303]

This isn’t right to repair. Thats allowing people to get schematics and components to keep their devices running, not just change things when tech advances. Even Louis has talked about this.

[@KennyChu]

Ifix it CEO says otherwise

[@vovs3167]

These 6-pin plugs on the motherboard are rated 75W each, while 8-pin ones on the GPU are designed for 150W, and most likely will draw more than 75W. There's probably some redundancy, but I would not risk frying the the power lines on the mobo, there are tutorials online on how to power the GPU safely, you should really consider such a mod.

[@64bullets]

Your mac pro still looks beautiful!

[@TheSpotify95]

Good job, you managed to get a newer version of Mac OS and a more powerful graphics card! The 980 is still a good card though, and if you sell it online, I'm sure there will be someone willing to take it out of your hands. :)

[@wilkgr]

Fr. I'm using a GT 630.

[@YitocukKilic]

@@wilkgr upgrade, i used to use a gt 640. IT WAS H O R R I B L E. i have a 1050 ti now that i got last year.

[@wilkgr]

@@YitocukKilic I plan to. My PC also has a 128GB ssd, which also needs to be upgraded at some point haha

[@tyronenelson9124]

@@wilkgr Why would you need to upgrade, unless it just contains your operating system there's no need.

[@wilkgr]

@@tyronenelson9124 I'm running out of space on it. I don't have space for my steam library.

[@andi]

The 4K video quality is looking very crisp! Also great vid, I love that you keep this design classic Mac up to date. It still has to be my favourite case designs. :D

[@375-Productions]

I'm liking these new project style videos, moving away from upload after upload of phone fixes, though don't get me wrong, I do enjoy those too, but this is refreshing content from you Hugh, and I'm loving it!

[@nabilharun6542]

NOW WE GET 4K VIDEO FROM HUGH !!!! lets continue supporting this guy, really love his content

[@lila44411]

Well done, you. Keep fighting the good fight, Hugh. You do stellar work

[@andrebanha8408]

I really hope you changed the cpu thermal paste and please dont suffocate the gpu like that. Have it no other card on top of the fans if you want it to not cook it self.

[@HughJeffreys]

7:06 In the menu bar you can see my CPU's run around 33-44 degrees. No need to change the thermal paste. As for the GPU, most PC's have the slot on the other side to the card faces the other way but this design doesn't allow for that. Although one fan is completely exposed the over is mostly covered, there is a slight gap for airflow but it doesn't concern me, the majority of the time the fans are not even running on the card unless its under a big load. I edited for 9hrs straight on the computer and I could touch the heatsink and it wasn't even hot.

[@jazzzny225]

@Nramanoodles It would work, as the 4,1 is nearly identical to the 5,1.

[@lopwidth7343]

@@HughJeffreys that means it's not even being used. Why upgrade in the first place, lol

[@cole7529]

@@lopwidth7343 did you watch the video? Mac OS Catalina doesn’t support his old card.

[@Jaymiecain1]

@@HughJeffreys For someone who is all about extending a products life span it's strange that you're ignoring all the feedback. The VRM and VRAM on the card will need airflow, even if the GPU Core itself is cool. The same goes for the components on the motherboard, which are caked in dust. You are actively shortening the life span of this computer with negligence. For electronics, heat is always a killer and this card will cook itself.

[@protogenboi5491]

This computer: "what's gpu airflow and why do I need it?" Seriously tho that poor gpu is gonna overheat

[@preetishkumarnayak9061]

Definitely and also all other compounds surrounding it as well.

[@tyronenelson9124]

Well id have thought you would hear the fans if it was overheating?

[@KeritechElectronics]

Oh my, this Mac Pro is a beast! A thing of beauty and a joy for ever. Nice overhaul.

[@munenex]

Not all heroes wear capes. Some beat planned obsolescence on their systems.

[@SVT_LIGHTNING]

Still using my wife’s 2012 Mac book pro and revived it with parts from my 2009 Mac book pro. In the start of covid it was a fun little project. Added 16gb of ram replaced her track pad with my old 2009 track pad. Replaced the battery with my old 2009 battery which was replaced under warranty right before it went south. Added a 2.5” ssd and using bootcamp to use windows 10 or Mac OS when ever we want too for certain apps that work on windows but not Mac OS and Vice versa. Switched out her cd drive with my old cd which was also replaced under warranty from apple. Fixed the wobbly display issue those generation Mac book pros suffer from and then her Mac book pro was pretty much brand new and works so well for such an older laptop. It just flys on windows and runs very well on Mac OS. It’s a Frankenstein build but it’s awesome knowing it was saved and not just sitting around not being used.

[@Andy2x4]

I’m so glad you made a video about planned obsolescence. Nobody talks about it, and it’s a lot of the reason we are in this mess!!

[@nickwallette6201]

A lot of people, who assume they are clever but are unfortunately just ignorant, are quick to blame lots of things on planned obsolescence. Much of the time other rational explanations are more likely. But in this case, it's definitely a conscious decision to drop support for a platform. Now, I guess I can't really blame a company for ending support on a 10-year-old platform. That's well past the expected life cycle for a computer, and supporting old hardware definitely has tangible costs, so it's a defensible decision. But, Moore retired quite a while ago, and aside from the efficiency concerns, the 2009/2010 Mac Pros are still viable computers for a lot of things, so it's a shame that Apple has not merely given up supporting them, but actively blocked new OSes from installing, and new software from running on older OSes. I honestly don't believe it's entirely a ploy to get people to buy new computers. After all, I'm sure many people who had or have one of these would still buy something newer -- and perhaps just use both. (I do/did.) I think it has more to do with the complexity of ensuring software compatibility on older hardware that somebody would have to maintain for testing and QA, and interoperability with older OSes. Since _most_ people would have moved on, it's an increasing level of effort with decreasing return on investment. It doesn't make financial sense, so it would have to be something done for the sake of it. That's the antithesis of running lean and mean. Still a shame.

[@Andy2x4]

@@nickwallette6201 So you’re calling anyone who believes in planned obsolescence ignorant? I’m not entirely sure people want to buy a new dishwasher or washing machine every time theirs break down. Repairs are usually more expensive than replacing the product, so you tell me that companies are doing it because that’s what people want! Never mind the environmental footprint. The main aim of any business is to make a profit. Just remember that.

[@nickwallette6201]

@@Andy2x4 No, that isn't what I'm saying at all, actually. I'm saying that sometimes things break, and sometimes mistakes are made, sometimes engineering choices are daft out of sheer incompetence. Not all of those cases were conscious decisions to design a product to fail, but I think in a lot of cases, people are so loathe to be taken for a fool that their first instinct is assume malice against them. I think your assessment of THIS was spot on. Apple drew an arbitrary line in the sand and called the hardware obsolete, when in fact it's perfectly good. I also believe people should have the right to repair. BUT... I think we all need to consider the costs of that right, and make reasonable, informed decisions on what _is_ and what _isn't_ blatant disregard for consumer rights and environmental impact. While the Mac Pro 2010 is obsolete, it is still viable. At the same time, I don't expect Apple to maintain stock of spare parts for a computer they haven't produced in 10 years. I don't expect them to spend hundreds of hours testing software and drivers for compatibility. I would, however, like them to take a "best effort" stance on it, though. That is, don't block the ability for later OSes to install, and make available the drivers -- untested and without warranty, if needs be ... or just allow nVidia / AMD to call the shots on whether to support it. I.e., I'm willing to let it die from attrition or old age, but not because somebody says its time has come.

[@longfang98]

@@Andy2x4 I equate people who plant their flag on the hill of planned obsolescence to flat earther luddites.

[@tombuck]

I really love this modular design. Good work fighting the good fight!

[@jalabi99]

The cheesegrater Mac Pro is the best, most expandable Mac ever made. I was gifted two of them from my old school that I wanted to turn into a coffee table but now I'm thinking of making one of them my daily driver for video editing. Thanks Hugh

[@sbarneaionut]

Still have my Mac Pro from 2009, flashed to 5.1, RX580 8GB, 32 GB of Ram and 6 core Xeon with Big Sur and cannot believe I am struggling to sell it for 400 quid. Is still a very good and versatile machine, not to mention the reliability and numerous purposes it can easily achieve.

[@jamiekehoe6931]

These are definitely not obsolete, however they do draw a significant amount of power compared to anything M1 related. I have a 2009 Mac Pro, flashed to a 5,1 running a hungry Vega 64 with 64GB of Ram, NVMe boot drive for Mojave, plus fully booting into Windows 10 and playing most games extremely well. I also have my CPU's updated to X5690's. I was wondering why you don't choose to run OpenCore as it is really easy to install and get working perfectly for the old Mac Pro even allowing you to install Big Sur?

[@quarterofdisorder]

Wow!

[@howlcoproductionhdfi]

Opencore 0.9.4 Martin lo config will get you Monterey and with the syncretic hack a AMD 6800 GPU … truly the best Mac ever made

[@howlcoproductionhdfi]

Also use a Sonnettech USB-C 3.2 PCI card and use a 4 bay USB-C 3.2 and 3.5” spinner drives in Raid 5 …fast faster than internal bays .. use the 6 internal bays for backup and archive storage

[@alwaysmusical9194]

A vacuum cleaner is always useful, not only with the floor, but also with other surfaces like a desk and between the keyboard gaps, the exhaust vents and the outer case of a laptop

[@NotRezzOnYT]

I wouldn't be surprised if in the future Hugh buys the 2019 Mac Pro.

[@ps5hasnogames55]

Hugh secretly loves Apple like all gay boys do. Hes just propagandist for Ifixit because they give him money and sponsorships. LOL. he can't even build a computer correctly, look at how we wedged that graphics card into the machine choking all its airflow.

[@digithardt]

@@ps5hasnogames55 lmao what?

[@welynslostpumpkin6463]

@@ps5hasnogames55 pfp checks out

[@baoquoc3710]

@@Stangobango hold tf up, who do you just say use samsung are "gay people"?

[@kazi1]

@@ps5hasnogames55 bruh

[@novagiantmedia1154]

Same model here. Installed SSD and Zorin OS (Ubuntu). Then added a few of the modern drivers through the Ubuntu 22.04 and this thing rocks - and looks amazing! What I love about these models is how modular they are, and the engineering is one of the best ive seen.

[@WarriorsPhoto]

Good video and I am glad to see someone is still making use of these great machines. Congratulations!

[@hi_tech_reptiles]

I had a couple of these from 07-08 lying around with only one left. Couldnt get it to boot last time I messed with it but I think it was just the side door sensor. NVMe would make a big difference, as its already a dual Xeon system. Dont let companies win - R2R and other consumer protections pushing against upgrade and repair prevention are needed, in tech and other industries. I usually dont like regulation, but pro-consumer and pro-small business/competition is an area that makes sense. Reduce, reuse, REPAIR, recycle!

[@pnowy1146]

Pc users: "look at what they have to do to mimic a fraction of our power"

[@mikehall3976]

Underrated comment. I mean, it's cool you can do this, but it's seriously cost prohibitive if you plan on doing this as a regular human for regular tasks. Just go buy a used PC off Facebook and you'll probably be happier with the performance. It's really just a labor of love for the old Macs.

[@lands1459]

@@mikehall3976 can confirm, i have an old iBook G3 and it was a pain finding all the software to get it going again

[@mikehall3976]

@@lands1459 I had a PowerBook G4 as well. The little 12". Shame it fell into my hands well after it's useful life was over, because I bet a laptop that powerful and small would've been absolutely wonderful to own back in the day. However these days it can word process and not much else. I don't really regret selling it.

[@RetNemmoc555]

@@mikehall3976 I carried a 12" PowerBook G4 for years motorcycle touring, until I replaced it with a lighter MacBook Air. What I miss the most is the keyboard - perfectly cupped keys allowed my fastest typing speed ever. I also liked the removable battery, which I had to replace after six years of use. I used it as a CD player/alarm clock/internet radio for awhile after that, but now it just sits in a drawer in all its beat-up glory.

[@shanemitchellspencer]

@@mikehall3976 Sure, but it's about keeping a product going for much longer than the manufacturer intended.

[@Styrbofox]

Seeing this old Mac beauty still alive and in heavy use quite surprised me and reminded that I have a close to 8-9 year old DELL inspiron 15 series 5559 laptop, it still goes strong to this very day. From time to time I use it for light or mediocre gaming or as a daily driver when I'm away from my main Desktop PC.

[@dhoome1234ify]

Hugh: DID YOU THINK THAT YOU WILL FORCE ME TO BUY YOUR NEW MODELS? THINK APPLE, THINK!

[@MacSoundSolutions]

My 2009 Mac Pro has a RX6800XT, 1 terabyte NVMe boot drive, Thunderbolt and USBC 3.1 Gen2. Upgraded Wifi and Bluetooth 4.2 Running Monterey 12.5.1 CHECKMATE!!

[@deathfalcon602]

How much does something like that cost to do?

[@MacSoundSolutions]

@@deathfalcon602 Well the RX6800XT is the expensive part but a Mac Pro 5,1 is dirt cheap these days. Just depend on what you want to install in it. I slowly upgraded mine over the years but recently moved to a 2019 mac pro as they are pretty cheap now.

[@dimka4996]

Haha, lol, dosdude1 patcher. How about opencore legacy patcher? Without any modifications to the os, uefi bootcamp and big sur running

[@Wastinglotsoftime]

Running Big Sur patcher on 2011 iMac. No issues.

[@robonl]

I know right. I have a Late 2009, 21,5 inch iMac running Big Sur with OCL. Runs amazing with a 500GB SSD and 16GB of RAM.

[@antononononon]

Дмитрий, где это взять?

[@illitero]

The well thought modularity of these things has been a HUGE secret desire for me, but I chicken out at the last second when thinking to buy one. The modularity is great not only for expansion, but for how easy maintenance is made versus typical case builds; and they means a LOT to me as I'm always in my case for once reason or another and it's always frustrating from lack of foresight by case designers.

[@flibi1]

no one talk about him being on 666 subs… The devil got his revenge😂

[@flibi1]

@Oscar membreno andrade i dont read comments, sorry.

[@antishifty]

@@flibi1 cold 😂😂😂😂😂

[@Ebolachicken]

something bad might happen

[@ps5hasnogames55]

well Hugh is a gay boy.

[@flibi1]

@@ps5hasnogames55 no u are

[@nopants4259]

It's great for improving your arm muscles ! I suggest moving it around your office daily to have the biggest biceps in the block

[@LinuxinaBit]

Might wanna swap the NvME drives and the card above to keep the GPU from choking.

[@jamiekehoe6931]

The graphics cards in these machines sits at the bottom as that is the fastest x16 slot in the computer made specifically for graphics cards, but like Hugh said, it really doesn't overheat. Mine doesn't either.

[@christophlandgraf2453]

Having seen all these videos, one question remains: Why do tech guys principally use compressed air to clean off the dust? And spend fortunes for highly pressurized canned air (see the respective Jason Villmer video). Especially such a clean, tidy, neatness-loving character as Hugh? Is it something in the genes? Something which makes technicians wanting to keep their dust active? Since the mid-eighties, I am using a secret thing called a 'vacuum cleaner' to tidy up PCs, something revolutionary and unheard of in the repair community. Even Jessa doesn't seem to use one, and she is a woman (I have observed in my lifetime that women fancy vacuum cleaners). With love (and a broad smile) from Germany

[@marcofontinha6296]

Because you can create static electricity when using those.

[@MakingMovesMajor]

"You say no they didnt, I say yes they did, soon as you find out what planned obsolescence is"

[@andreg5027]

Just do like your aussie mate @Tech Yes City when cleaning PCs. That GPU with no room to breathe and no new thermal on those CPUs gave me the chills. Keep up the good work.

[@FinnleyGordon-hl6mk]

Really weird question would you sell your 980 for a great price

[@jugotocks]

He probably listed it on his online store, and if he did its probably already gone. The link is in the description.

[@user-vo3ps2oz7h]

I wonder if a mac flashed gpu would work on a regular pc

[@jugotocks]

@@user-vo3ps2oz7h It would work perfectly fine.

[@artysanmobile]

Seriously. And they are hard at work on that, even colluding with outside software makers to pointlessly block installation. It is my constant pleasure to keep mine alive forever, and help others to do the same. The only parts left from my 2009 ‘cheese grater’ are the chassis and the motherboard. Thunderbolt, USB-C, high speed WiFi and Bluetooth, major processor upgrade, memory of higher speed, Metal video, optical drives - all are new. It is quieter and cooler, drawing far less power, and very capable with any software that big, bad Apple hasn’t managed to keep me from running. It runs modern macOS versions thanks to some outstanding work in the HackPro community, spoofing as a much newer computer while booting with dozens of lines of altered code that keep the wolves away.

[@BroTatoRex]

I’ve not been in the “hackintosh” scene in nearly a decade now, thankful to hear the community is still improving on these awesome machines. I’d be rather interested in seeing a video going into more depth of your set-up or if you recommend any, curious how with those improvements and with the software its running, how ‘capable’ it is against a modern machine. I’m going to get another soon now that I have a little more time and energy to put towards it..and the need for a second PC around the house, but definitely using post as inspiration!

[@artysanmobile]

@@BroTatoRex I’ll try to do that. One thing I’d like to say right away is that the community of coders has made the job at least ten times easier than it was when I did my first machine 9 or 10 years ago.

[@pedifer1999]

While I do love the original cheese grater Mac Pros, this computer really isn't all that good for day-to-day use anymore. While on paper the specs seems great, the single core performance on those Westmere based X5690s is absolutely abysmal. Additionally, that mac can easily pull 600-800W under load due to the really old platform and 32nm arch for the CPUs

[@-Chicken_]

Me here vibing with my i3 core and 4gb ram

[@gregthompson7793]

Uh nope. Mine usually pulls about 350 watts under extreme load. I have a 5700xt in it as well.

[@pedifer1999]

@@gregthompson7793 do you also have the x5690s?

[@micheldorsey]

Dude, you went with DosDude and you should have used OpenCore (OC). With OC, you will get hardware support for h.264/h.265. This will vastly improve the speed of your video editing. This might have already been mentioned in one of the 722 comments, but I didn't read them all. Great video work though and I loved your comments, etc.

[@77josh77]

I would love to see you do a collab with Linus Tech Tips where he installs a storage server.

[@xdkfpjacob]

Probably wouldn’t happen because Linus is in Canada and he’s in Australia

[@77josh77]

@@xdkfpjacob It would have to wait until post covid. My understanding is Australia is a bit more behind, but Canada is opening international travel as open as September.

[@carlospulpo4205]

2:43 - I would swap the two PCI cards above the GFX card because the top one is very short and would allow more airflow into the GFX fan that is currently half covered by the card directly above it.

[@iskandarzulkarnainsalleh8688]

Hugh, what kind of smartwatch are you wearing?

[@flibi1]

pretty sure its a Garmin watch

[@YeOldeGeezer]

It’s a fitbit

[@flibi1]

@@YeOldeGeezer there are round fitbits?

[@YeOldeGeezer]

@@flibi1 I doubt it lol just trying to add to the Monotony

[@tiagomartins8715]

it's a samsung galaxy watch active 2

[@Clash_Slayer]

Hugh: Let's fix my mac pro Apple: That's illegal

[@BrowneyFolf]

Bruh, watching this video got me so much cringe. That new GPU will be fried

[@RobertMizen]

Its actually fine, despite initial looks. Some people have popped two GPU's in and its fine. The front to back fan setup works really well and the mesh design does help a lot. The cringe for me is the dust. That's got the look of a floor pc use dust condition 😬

[@PeetB_]

5:26 You don’t need power modifications to run a 5700XT, though it would be wise to do the Pixlas mod just in case. Some 5700XT’s peak above 300 watts (more than the 2x 150W per mini 6-pin) and could fry your motherboard. I did the mod only to run an RX580 since a friend of mine fried his motherboard in that way…

[@paulrippcord506]

It's so hard to let the old Mac Pros just go, simply one of the most beautiful computers ever made, both inside and out.

[@WJHandyDad]

great video - new subscriber earned. I am still running a 2009 Mac Pro... haven't upgraded quite as much as you, but I have the max processors, RAM, and an RX 580 graphics card. Seems to handle everything I need. I am not liking the new philosophy of companies churning out computers that are planned to be obsolete and replaced within a couple years

[@rainustabalon8532]

Imac score : 62 420 Me: I want is to be 69 420

[@MrCooper83]

Yeah, 69 sounds pretty good!

[@therealbinchicken]

nice

[@forestfaint9269]

*n o i c e*

[@joshfriesen9401]

On all my old Mac computers, I use the Opencore Legacy Patcher. It allows you to install up to macOS Ventura on any Mac 2008 or newer.

[@TECHNIKVERBOT]

Imagine using the dosdude patcher over something like the OpenCore Legacy Patcher

[@IdiotRace]

How hard is it to do this? I'd like to get my 5,1 onto Catalina

[@SeptienPatterson]

Hugh, keep it up. Your videos are informative and are much needed on KZbin.

[@AnthonyChopra]

i remember trying to upgrade my gpu. sadly HDCP codec on amazonVideo failed to work tho my card may of been way too old from MacCards on amazon a seller who gave fauls info about the card he or she was selling but grate to see another MacPro being updated without issue and i cant wait to try again. ill probs buy one upgraded already then use my other one as part or make it work again down the road as a basic server

[@RealMineKD]

Loving your peels. Sooo satisfying…

[@thomasbob3rt]

Even after all these years, that’s still just the most beautiful computer cases ever built

[@daftbence]

Love the 4K upload! I recently bought a 4k TV and I appreciate the 4k stuff so much more, especially ones that are 50 or 60 fps.

[@Alexander_l322]

You’ve got 666k subscribers. Apple says you’re doing the devils work.

[@trekimpossible2850]

this computer looks beautiful and solid built, it would be great if they kept making upgradable components.

[@WillFuI]

I feel bad for that card. It’s getting choked hard

[@WalterMan]

Ikr, that GPU is going to run HOT in there. He should just get a PC and hackintosh it.

[@willm5032]

I'm daily driving a 2008 mac pro. Patched it to Catalina, apparently runs big sur but I don't want to risk the instability haha

[@2smoker311]

Wasnt that mac released in 2012? that's not planned obsolescence at all. that things just outdated. It wont have new instruction sets

[@JerrySM64]

Great video. Very nice to see you're still using the 5,1. I got a Mac mini 3,1 (Early 2009), but unfortunately, Catalina runs like crap on it so I have to stick with High Sierra at most.

[@dust0192]

I didnt know Apple made actual PCs😂

[@JerrySM64]

They kinda still do. The 2019 Mac Pro is more like the 5,1.

[@account-now-closed]

This.... Aged

[@dwaynestimpson5449]

I still have my 2010 Mac Pro 5,1 Currently using a M1 Mac Mini, I still have that beast sitting in my closet, still works. I may get it out and play around with it. The last upgrade it received was a RX580 video card and a 1TB SSD.

[@SalvoDan]

It’s an 11 year old computer. It is not Planned Obsolescence. It’s just that the computer is old and inefficient.

[@albertocarrilloalvarez]

hello Hugh and community, First of all fantastic video and explanation ... I see that at the end of the video you are working with 3 Apple cinema displays, these are the Thunderbolt version ?. If they are the Thunderbolt version, how did you connect it to the Mac Pro? From what I see the new graphics card does not have Thunderbolt outputs .. and these screens do not work with HDMi adapters to minidisplayports ...... I have this same problem with my Mac Pro and a thunderbolt cinema display, I would appreciate if you have found a solution, thanks !!

[@Random_4400]

666k 😳😆

[@iGamify]

I scrolled a little for this comment :D

[@SeptienPatterson]

Just looked at the sub count, Hugh is Nasty Nate! Mark of the beast!

[@PontiacSunfire04]

Apple doesn’t really do planned obsolescence anymore… iPhone 6s getting iOS 15, 2015 MacBook getting Monterey? You seem to be going harsh on apple despite other PC manufacturers doing similar things. Don’t even get me started on when you said the 2011 MacBook Pro GPUs were Apples Fault. The 5000 and 6000 series AMD GPUs failed on every Mac that had them. Even with sufficient cooling. I’ll be honest Hugh, i love your stuff, and I’ve watched lots of your content and I love what you do but I don’t get why you seem to hate apple so much. Unless I’m missing something. Not a hate comment. Just a…. Comment from a passionate apple fan.

[@rafaelappleseed8140]

But paired components to their boards

[@jakthebomb]

I use an Electric Leaf Blower to dust out my 2010 Mac Pro. I have dual 6 core Xeons, 64GB RAM, AMD 580 and a PCI USB 3.0 card. I use a Drobo for all of my important data and have Plex Server running.

[@applefanboy1770]

666k

[@clayfreed16]

I daily drive an upgraded Mac Pro 5,1! It runs Catalina and Arch Linux. I use an RX 580, 24 gigs of ram, 2.5 tb storage (1 gig ssd, 1.5 hard drive), dual X5675s. How did that computer get so dusty?? Mine never got that dusty and I almost never clean it!

[@PixelSheep]

the brush part was oddly satisfying :) :D

[@Viking8888]

Definitely time to make life easier by getting an air compressor. I used to service a lot of computers and my air compressor was a HUGE time saver.

[@HughJeffreys]

Having been looking into getting one. My dad has a big compressor but its total overkill and massive so will have to find something small like one for inflating tyres.

[@Viking8888]

@@HughJeffreys I'm not sure what you have in Australia for tool shops, but in the US and back home in Canada, we can get decent inexpensive air compressors (under $100) that are small. The tanks are either shaped like a round pillow or a hotdog and are great for car tires and what I use mine for most of the time....cleaning out computers! www.harborfreight.com/air-tools-compressors/air-compressors-tanks/air-compressors.html?sale_price=%5B0%20TO%2050%5D Edit: In Australia: www.totaltools.com.au/119121-aeropro-1-5hp-direct-compressor-ttd1524

[@Beatles4Sale.]

I had a 2006 Mac Pro. I bought a Sas to Sata PCI-E card and hooked the internal drives up to it. It changed the drives to Sata2 instead of Sata1. Then ran a Sata cable to one of the two hidden ports on the logic board to boot. These changes made all the difference in the world. Probably gave me another four or five years of decent performance. Now I just use it to grate cheese. 😂😂😂❤️❤️❤️

[@moetarded7757]

Loving Monterey on mine. Open cores last up date was great.

[@HuntersMoon78]

I use an electric air mattress inflator with the medium nozzle on for blowing dust out of my PC and consoles, it does a great job and no its not affected by static electricity.

[@41chemist19]

Removable dust filters are your friend. There's gotta be a way to get some on the outside of the intake on this case, it'll actually solve like 90% of your dust issues and it's pretty cheap and low effort. Also, those slots are called PCIe 2.0 or 3.0 slots... PCI slots are ancient technology that were popular in the 1990s.

[@shaftandsack]

nobody cares you muppet literally everyone calls them PCI slots

[@41chemist19]

@@shaftandsack really? I've only heard people who are really uninformed call it a PCI slot.

[@PaulHojda]

Love it how my base model m1 Air scores higher than 2x 6core xeon processors that i used to drool over 12 years ago.

[@davidkollar8408]

Thumbs up from Slovakia Hugh👊

[@Sean.Vosler]

Still by far my favorite computer case

[@disekjoumoer]

I'm a sysadmin for a design company. I've just taken two Lenovo P910 Thinkstations out of service, as they were gettting old. The Thinkstations interior design makes Apple's designers look like amateurs. It's newer and therefore faster than your Mac, obviously, but was cheaper and quite a bit more upgradable than the Mac Pro, both old and new. We had a room full of old Mac Pros back in 2010, but our experience with Apple's built-in obsolesence was so bad that we switched over to Windows, despite all its flaws.

[@jackthatcher7477]

Love your vids man

[@Gerkozielman]

You hit the hammer on the nail with this: 8:54 one!! thanks for the video.

[@gavinthesniper4465]

Hugh I just want to say you are good at what you do I have learned a lot from you keep up your good work and keep doing what you do

[@Luke-xt8lt]

Awesome vid Hugh respect on juggling Uni an still creating quality content 👏

[@fstop9466]

Huge effort Jeff !

[@JoshRyanWood]

Install a cut foam filter on the front and you'll avoid the much of the hassle with dust.

[@nosleepenjoyer]

4K! Thank you, Hugh. 1080p on the iMac 5K is truly soapy.

[@shanemitchellspencer]

I have a feeling I will keep my Mac Pro for quite a while. It continues to be the desktop that I use for daily tasks, family photo and video editing as well as some server use. When it fails to do that (or I can't keep a modern enough macOS version installed) I'll wipe macOS, and install Debian (Linux) to make it a server. The storage bays and dual processors make this a great home server. After that, it will keep my apartment warm in the Maine winters.

[@IsmaelWensder]

I bought two processors from a Mac Pro 2008 (for next to nothing -$), installed them on a regular 775 motherboard (using an adapter), and it's fine for regular use, (my friend is using) but the tdp is high! lol