*Found something about the company:* "Michael Roberts had founded Sydney- based Time Office Computers, originally called *Electronic Control Systems* , in the 1970s, intending to develop and market small computer terminals."
@jaceb_sqr3 жыл бұрын
Sauce: "A Vision Splendid: The History of Australian Computing - ACS", pg. 226
@HughJeffreys3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, have updated the title to reflect the proper decade.
@jaceb_sqr3 жыл бұрын
Great video Hugh. I'm a computer scientist myself. This terminal really fascinated me because it tells something about the history of computing there in Australia. I love watching your vids. Keep it up
@pouliniere75953 жыл бұрын
Hugh Jeffreys Now I understand why the title has changed
@libertyordeaf3 жыл бұрын
Yes, that's right. Michael Roberts came out of the computer faculty at UNSW and made quite a bit of money selling these data-entry terminals. He then went on to take over Dulmont, which made the Magnum / Kookaburra, the first Australian-made laptop and probably the world's first battery powered one. Pretty important figure in the history of Australian computing.
@enzoperruccio3 жыл бұрын
This is a so called "dumb terminal", meaning it absolutely needs to be hooked up to a mainframe in order to do anything at all. The high voltage sound means the CRT is probably working fine, there's just nothing to display 🤷🏻♂️
@alerey43633 жыл бұрын
but at a bare minimum most terminals of this kind showed some manufacturer's logo or basic prompt or some video lines of some sort (either amber or green phosphor)
@enzoperruccio3 жыл бұрын
@@alerey4363 Maybe this one's so old it doesn't display anything? I dont really know, I'm just guessing by the simplicity of the circuitry inside.
@SeaDooEric3 жыл бұрын
It is actually a DUMP Terminal,…get it? Because of the animal poop.
@benjaminbadrakh16443 жыл бұрын
The highvoltage sound is likely the sweep generator though.
@flymax73773 жыл бұрын
@@SeaDooEric 😂😂😂
@dantexavier78423 жыл бұрын
looks like a computer you would find in a fallout game
@smraddebeli3 жыл бұрын
🤝 Agreed
@CodeDisease3 жыл бұрын
Yes 🤣
@matthewgarmendia78033 жыл бұрын
OMG IT ACTUALLY DOES HAAHAHHA
@YasinVanDoorsen3 жыл бұрын
Lool
@PAVLL0-v4i3 жыл бұрын
"Change my mind"
@UK_Cobra2 жыл бұрын
That poor computer, looked so much happier after the clean :) Always love watching rare vintage electronics be cleaned up and/or restored to working order.
@allmousekillnew5832 жыл бұрын
Sh up
@vamori64942 жыл бұрын
@@allmousekillnew583 ?
@zorvlatch Жыл бұрын
Like my dog who rolled in the mud, after a bath.
@limesandlemons1367 Жыл бұрын
@@allmousekillnew583 ?.
@Cat_loaf2011 ай бұрын
@@allmousekillnew583tf did he do
@omegasiarnaq3 жыл бұрын
I love the look of this technological artifact. I also am still bewildered at the fact that this was a late 70s/early 80s computer, fast forward 30 to 40 years and we now have super computers in the palms of our hands that most of us probably used to watch this video. I always get excited about technological advancements.
@babylfsh3 жыл бұрын
It's not even a computer, it's just a terminal. It's meant to be the human interface to a much larger computer, in this era likely a fridge-sized "minicomputer."
@omegasiarnaq3 жыл бұрын
@@babylfsh this was used to access a much larger computer? This is so cool because of how refined computers are now and how small computers can get compared to the computers of the time which took up an entire room. I'm sorry I just love this sort of stuff
@babylfsh3 жыл бұрын
@@omegasiarnaq By the late 70s, it's more likely that this would be connected to a fridge-sized computer, although it could also have been connected to an ancient room-sized mainframe. The room-size computers of the 50s and 60s usually used teletype machines (telephone connected automatic typewriters) as terminals, which are clunky mechanical beasts. Video terminals like this one started becoming available in the 70s as a paperless alternative to a teletype.
@lorencelaflair43062 жыл бұрын
@@babylfsh nah too smol... bring it up to a small room sized.
@ema726762 жыл бұрын
I love how it looks too ❤️
@jessica23claire3 жыл бұрын
this isn't relevant to this video in any way, but I just wanted you to know i rescued a working 2011 iMac from the side of the road last week, bought her a keyboard roughly of the same age on eBay, cleaned her up, learned how to system restore, and brought her back to life. She's now running the newest software I could get her (High Sierra) and doing well. I've named her Gertrude, the very angry computer. Point is, I probably wouldn't have gone to the effort if it wasn't for you, so thank you for your work!
@araigumakiruno3 жыл бұрын
Nice! One more computer saved from eWaste
@mmbeno3 жыл бұрын
I wonder how fast it is
@jessica23claire3 жыл бұрын
@@mmbeno it’s actually not too bad! I’m not a computer expert by any means but I can tell it’s a little sluggish sometimes, but it still runs my NBN normally, KZbin videos run smoothly and so far so good!
@jessica23claire3 жыл бұрын
@@araigumakiruno hell yeah! She wasn’t even visibly damaged either, just had a bit of oxidisation on her from being outside for a day but that cleaned up just fine.
@araigumakiruno3 жыл бұрын
@@jessica23claire atleast she have a new,nice and caring owner!
@syndicate81903 жыл бұрын
the "useless foam" is a sound dampener still used in custom keyboards to this day. also the grim on the inside of the keyboard indicates the ppl using it where smokers as that is what happens to electronics. when u smoke around them
@giofurla3 жыл бұрын
But the foam was only on one of the two keyboards
@syndicate81903 жыл бұрын
@@giofurla the key board may have been damaged by the smoke residue and the foam was never replaced when fixing it
@shaquilleoneal453 жыл бұрын
How nice are those key caps boys
@itbetea3 жыл бұрын
@@shaquilleoneal45i was thinking the same thing. they look so nice
@MondkeksLP3 жыл бұрын
Seems logical, I guess smoking in the office was the norm back then.
@dontmatter44233 жыл бұрын
Those pieces of foam are not useless actually. They dampen the sound from key presses. It actually makes a difference from a completely hollow case
@MrWolfSnack3 жыл бұрын
I can't stand it when people ""repair"" something and just throw random parts away and say "this is useless" when they think they know more than the engineers that built the thing at why something was put there. If you are too ignorant at how electronics function and what each part is for, you shouldn't be repairing them. Imagine repairing a car with that logic. It would never even start.
@Felipe776463 жыл бұрын
@@MrWolfSnack yeah as a keyboard nerd i’m literally fuming
@yahillo3 жыл бұрын
They’re useless! Didn’t u see the shape they were in? Sure it makes a change but that old foam is no good for the keyboard.
@MrWolfSnack3 жыл бұрын
@@yahillo That's not what I'm saying and you know it.
@ellenmatzke85092 жыл бұрын
@@MrWolfSnack I’m pretty sure he meant they’re useless because of the gross condition they were in not because he’s uneducated however you could be right too who knows 🤷♂️
@HudsonGTV3 жыл бұрын
Would recommend not gutting it. Restore it to a working state, and since it just uses RS-232 for communication, you could hook up an external modern computer to it. This will preserve the units original state, while allowing you to use it with a modern system. EDIT: Ican almost guarentee thst the CRT itself is perfectly fine. You are almost certainly experiencing one of 2 problems: 1) Brightness knob is either turned down, or is bad (try spraying Deoxit into it and turning it repeatedly until it feels smooth). 2) The electronics on the terminal side are bad. This should not be too difficult to diagnose if you get help from the vintage computer community, as these terminals were usually quite simple.
@Thecrypttidgamer2 ай бұрын
or maybe the hard drive is bad and it literally doesn't have anything to display at all
@Gizepi3 жыл бұрын
I was a drilling rig radio operator in the 80's and 90's and this system is extremely similar to what I knew as a Laine Data System. Effectively a terminal that ran a very basic system and connected to peripherals (in our case an early modem) via RS232 which, if memory serves worked at 300bps. Our modem was connected to a modified car phone that connected to the land based cell system.
@mrtesticlease46383 ай бұрын
thats honestly pretty awful but also awesome at the same time lol
@ChengTeoh3 жыл бұрын
There should be a warning on this video - "Don't watch this video if you are eating or about to eat ... or are a germophobe ... or an arachnophobe."
@aflmaster54313 жыл бұрын
I was eating an apple and I almost died
@superNova58373 жыл бұрын
I was eating a dinner while watch this
@aflmaster54313 жыл бұрын
@Sagnik Chatterjee lol I just woke up and ate a apple lol
@Kassadin.3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@KeaganMaher3 жыл бұрын
I was eating the whole time
@SayMcGillicuddy3 жыл бұрын
This would have gone quicker if you'd had a Ducktor on hand. He's always very helpful
@frstwhsprs3 жыл бұрын
Was that... a TysyTube reference?!
@SayMcGillicuddy3 жыл бұрын
@@frstwhsprs Odd Tinkering, but honestly I just spent 10 mins trying to see if they are the same person. Identical aesthetic
@justapurerandom53743 жыл бұрын
@Allan Dods Odd Thinkering is Finish and Tysy is French (my nation)
@cosmingfx3 жыл бұрын
@@justapurerandom5374 not really. He is romanian born and just moved to France afaik
@Zirah583 жыл бұрын
@@cosmingfx how do you know that?!
@theodark3 жыл бұрын
The question is "Should you repurpose it?" ... To which my answer would be "It belongs to a museum" :) If you can't find any info on the internet, it looks like its rare, and part of the Australian computer history.
@thespacenerd6693 жыл бұрын
I think that they didn’t make very many copies
@BarrySmoother3 жыл бұрын
"it belongs in a museum" Mostly everything that gets donated to a museum gets thrown into storage where it won't be documented and won't be seen by anyone. . At least this might be thrown into someones man cave. It'll have purpose instead of being chucked behind a sheet of glass where maybe one or two people a month might acknowledge it's existence.
@theodark3 жыл бұрын
@@BarrySmoother "privatize everything" right?
@mr2000jp3 жыл бұрын
i agree , and i think it have a hight historical value , its too valuable to just change it to any thing else ,
@darkracer12523 жыл бұрын
@@BarrySmoother guess where it collected all this crud. guess who auctioned it. this thing probbably has been on some collectors display before he died and it ended up in a garage. or it has already been in deep storage of some museum that didn't know what to do with it
@jahmurlopez3793 жыл бұрын
Your videos inspired me to open my own business repairing computers
@camera19463 жыл бұрын
This is a terminal. No computer bits inside. It is purely for displaying and entering data from another machine. Still is really cool. Nice video!
@thekristianfamilycircus3 жыл бұрын
I'd just like to add, I currently own some of the last surviving ECS stage lighting equipment, this appears to be an old ECS lighting computer console, as I have the serial system this plugs into. The CRT get input from a lighting desk, which this acts as monitor/keyboard for. These were developed in the late 1970s/early 80s. I'd be interested in buying this, as they are well obsolete but a part of theatrical history.
@nahmastay33002 жыл бұрын
Did you get to purchase this?
@amirrayyan51512 жыл бұрын
@@nahmastay3300 yeah dude @JK Forde
@SgtKOnyx2 жыл бұрын
@@amirrayyan5151 doubtful, Hugh said he was keeping it, at least at that time.
@incumbentvinyl92912 жыл бұрын
@@SgtKOnyx He gave Hugh an offer he couldn't refuse.
@thomass.63283 жыл бұрын
An Ebay Auction for this would be like:Almost New Condition, rarely used
@headbumb90223 жыл бұрын
true
@junaidsiddiquemusic3 жыл бұрын
Right lol two years ago I bought an iMac from ebay, it’s listing was same like u said until I found using drivedx the hdd is failing with over 23,000 hours runtime 🤦🏻♂️
@h20k983 жыл бұрын
@Quantum wtf , gamming?
@animeloveer97 Жыл бұрын
the terminal in reality:15 years abuse in some manufacturing plant with 600 smokers in a 9x12 room with 1200 rats using it as a toilet XD
@benjaminbadrakh16443 жыл бұрын
That high pitched noise might acctually be the horizontal sweep generator making that noise as its sweep rate is in the audible range for most computers. The sweep generator is meant to make the CRT beam sweep across CRT display so the entire screen is covered. The Sweep generator should be making a saw-tooth wave form at its output and feeding it into the horizontal deflection coil. Another problem maybe that the flyback transformer may be out. The epoxy may have degraded over time this letting in moisture or air allowing the HV to arc inside the transformer thus not letting the HV get to the CRT anode. Or possibly that is only a display for a external computer. With those dumb terminals it may be a data monitor. The CRT socket connector to the CRT pins at the back of the CRT may also be corroded and not making a good connection to either the heater element pin, cathode pin, focusing electrode pin, beam amplitude pin. Or its just that the main processor is dead or other critical components. One good idea though before checking anyone of these is to check all power supply voltage rails. There maybe a short on one of the supply rails and the current limiting protection kicking in. If you think that current limiting didnt exist back then you are wrong because I have experience working with 22** 4** series Tektronix oscilloscopes. The 22** series are from the 1980s and the 4** are from the 1970s. Check the fuses (if there are any). Well thats all I can think off the top of my head. Good luck.
@Random3DAnimations3 жыл бұрын
Too long : didn't read
@sparklingwater3993 жыл бұрын
That's a very neat answer! Hope Hugh sees it
@resneptacle3 жыл бұрын
@@Random3DAnimations Good for you? But genuinely, who asked
@Random3DAnimations3 жыл бұрын
You
@GameN3rdz3 жыл бұрын
@@Random3DAnimations no
@davidfrank28242 жыл бұрын
I remember back in the 1970s when I was in junior high. Back then radio shack had groups of people who went into school to demonstrate electronics. That was where I had my first experience touching a computer. They would put the game pong up on the screen and talk about how that computer was programmed to play a game. They told us about the gaming and then explain how if you were to become a computer programmer perhaps you would invent a new game. I'm really enjoyed this video and thank you for bringing back some very fond memories. I most definitely hit the like and subscribe button. Look forward to watching more of your videos.
@GREGSanderson-l4z5 ай бұрын
I worked for ECS back in the days we built these. It's interesting to read all the comments. A couple of things. It was an 😊 intelligence based terminal that emulated HP, Honeywell, and many other terminals of the day. Customers were Telecom, ATO, Fairfax, and many others. It was a computer, so much as we had a set of EEPROMs with LLL basic. Nothing serious, but it was my first stab at programming. The biggest problems you have here are the HT for the tube. If not the tube itself, next is the keyboard cable. It is parallel not serial. Good luck working that one out. I am happy to answer any questions you have about this box.
@MrMattlock3 жыл бұрын
Great video Hugh. When I started my IT career in the 90's there were still a few terminals like these around the office, hooked up to either Honeywell Bull mainframes, or later DEC Alpha mini computers. In those days I worked with programmers who started programming with punch cards! This terminal would have been cutting edge stuff to them in the 80s :-)
@swapnilsonawane98743 жыл бұрын
It's always good to have insights from those who actually used these things. Thank you.
@isaacashirvad3 жыл бұрын
Nice
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@MicrobyteAlan3 жыл бұрын
It’s a computer data monitor. (Dumb terminals) probably from the ‘70s.
@williamharris83673 жыл бұрын
A quick check of the production dates on the chips would give a reasonable estimate of when it was manufactured. I glimpsed a white, ceramic EPROM -- I think those are late-1970s vintage.
@N3KO_793 жыл бұрын
But the keyboards reminds me the actual mechanical keyboards 😂
@80.niranjannv973 жыл бұрын
@@N3KO_79 old keyboards were actually better since they weren’t meant to be affordable
@AustinMichael3 жыл бұрын
@@N3KO_79 That is because it was one. Any type of computer back then was not for consumers and they money these things cost was immense. Rubber membrane and other cheap keyboard designs were obviously to get the prices down for consumers in the 1990's.
@resneptacle3 жыл бұрын
@@AustinMichael Even in the late 70's and 80's membrane keyboards were around and only got more popular with the rise of home and small business computers
@coleeau3 жыл бұрын
From one of the date codes on a transistor this looks like it is made in 1977. It's a terminal. Please keep it stock since it is so old
@williamharris83673 жыл бұрын
Good catch!
@mitsostechtips90473 жыл бұрын
I'm saying the same but I really don't think Hugh will read this, if you read this bro, please keep it stock and don't ruin such a classic machine
@darkracer12523 жыл бұрын
i doubt he'll keep it stock. it's sad. the computer thinks it's getting restored but in the end it's just ending up in the trash and it's skin it used for some raspberry pi crap.
@thatgaming19403 жыл бұрын
It's hard to make me gag just by sight, but you cleaning the base was able to do it. You gained a subscriber just by having the stomach to clean this.
@Standofffish3 жыл бұрын
How I see my computer: a little dirty but pretty clean *How my mom sees my computer:*
@GaijinSlave2 жыл бұрын
lol same. Except Its my brother as you and your mom as me. Its so relatable though.
@timcollins34843 жыл бұрын
I am 75 have been in IT since I was 19 and the name rings a bell with me. I'll watch your video all the way to see if it gives me a clue. Worst case I can ask a few of my contemporaries if they can recall ECS. May take a while they're in almost every time zone! (or no longer on the planet!)
@libertyordeaf3 жыл бұрын
ECS was started by Michael Roberts from UNSW in the 70s and they did quite well selling terminals to banks and government departments. Roberts then bought out Dulmison/Dulmont and the company became Time Office Computers. They threw a lot of cash into laptop development and sales but couldn't compete with the overseas big boys and went under in the late 80s.
@timcollins34843 жыл бұрын
@@libertyordeaf Thanks for the update, I also remember TIme Computers
@Mister_kipling3 жыл бұрын
I've seen cleaner men's toilets after a football final.....
@circuitsandcigars12783 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen dirtier toilets in a woman’s dorm.
@esh9x1533 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen cleaner boys’ middle school bathrooms
@teriyakipuppy3 жыл бұрын
The keyboard is beautiful. The blue too. You'd be hard pressed to find the replacement CRT
@davidsalmons803 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@gameyord71823 жыл бұрын
External (adapted) monitor?
@giofurla3 жыл бұрын
@fallen aspie but shouldnt it display something? Like a flashing underscore
@nysaea3 жыл бұрын
The CRT is probably fine. Most likely dim and a bit burned in but the electronics are the likely culprit.
@NuGanjaTron3 жыл бұрын
@@nysaea Agree. And the CRT is a Hitachi job, so probably more or less generic and replaceable. Would be interesting to see how it reads on a CRT tester.
@nobody-fe4gn3 жыл бұрын
I don't know why, but i found that these kind of videos are satisfying
@germanmemerboi31573 жыл бұрын
Why do I love how it is designed? Boxy Terminal that looks like a PC.
@cadenyang30583 жыл бұрын
Hugh: *Random and useless pieces of foam* Custom Keyboard enthusiasts: *shaking their heads*
@korbyndejong64903 жыл бұрын
What is that foam for?
@cadenyang30583 жыл бұрын
@@korbyndejong6490 Dampening foam to reduce pinging inside the metal case, and to make the keyboard sound deeper
@jolt-tech63613 жыл бұрын
ikr
@jolt-tech63613 жыл бұрын
@@korbyndejong6490 to dampin the case sound
@resneptacle3 жыл бұрын
@@cadenyang3058 I doubt back then they cared about making a keyboard sound deeper
@jeeroylenkins66253 жыл бұрын
The styrofoam on the key board is to act as a dampener, so when ur typing there is no hollow sound being created.
@jeeroylenkins66253 жыл бұрын
@@tuononh which other keyboard? There's only one in the vid no?
@arsyadaiman84743 жыл бұрын
@@jeeroylenkins6625 There's literally 2 keyboards
@jeeroylenkins66253 жыл бұрын
@@arsyadaiman8474 oh yea ahahaha. Well then idk y there isn’t one on the other keeb
@ishaqislam15473 жыл бұрын
@@tuononh it was probably put in on the blue keyboard bcuz the last person who used it did it
@roadsport.3 жыл бұрын
@@jeeroylenkins6625 maybe in the first keyboard something was causing the keyboard to be loud and someone put foam in it
@jackp42253 жыл бұрын
You should give this to Dankpod's friend James, he could probably fix anything.
@misterguyschannel2603 жыл бұрын
Yes
@MaidaValeTom3 жыл бұрын
As long as its a Fiat
@YearsOfLeadPoisoning3 жыл бұрын
There's a KZbinr that's pretty good at tech repair as well, called Hugh Jeffreys
@mdukasa3 жыл бұрын
The crossover we need
@applefanboy17703 жыл бұрын
Jerry fixes and a diy power checker with a broken fuse lookin light
@Lexilove20163 жыл бұрын
Finally a restoration video with audio commentary
@NuGanjaTron3 жыл бұрын
Technically, he hasn't really restored it, at least in terms of function. Sadly, it looks like he's not planning on doing so, either. :^(
@astedroid3 жыл бұрын
I don't know how, but these are so satisfying to watch.
@mdukasa3 жыл бұрын
This has got to be the worst condition computer on youtube, even more than the 8-bit guy's VIC-20
@Blackout_16923 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what I was thinking
@insert_username_here3 жыл бұрын
It’s not really a computer, more of a dumb terminal, but same thing I guess.
@yucaluca85613 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the exact same thing
@TheGlitchyMario3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely.
@aptiveviennapro3 жыл бұрын
This would make The 8-bit Guy even more jealous.
@markharrisllb3 жыл бұрын
The next time I see a video with the words '…Dirtiest Computer…' in the title I’m going to comment "You obviously haven’t seen Hugh Jeffreys's."
@charliec1933 жыл бұрын
Most underrated comment ever
@flaturiah3 жыл бұрын
I think the one of the only contenders would be that nasty VIC-20 the 8 Bit Guy washed off. Although, it was more oily than feces ridden lol
@Cmdrbzrd2 жыл бұрын
This thing doesnt count because it's a bloody terminal and cant do anything by itself.
@markharrisllb2 жыл бұрын
@@Cmdrbzrd Does that count as a technical knockout?
@Cmdrbzrd2 жыл бұрын
@@markharrisllb no
@VeioPescador3 жыл бұрын
"unindentified grime" sounds scary
@nathanaelmalm56413 жыл бұрын
Well it is scary
@danbarnes40693 жыл бұрын
If this was a eBay listing it would be "SUPER GAMING COMPUTER USED NO DIRT"
@MrLurchsThings3 жыл бұрын
If you jump on the Australian Vintage Computer Collectors group on FB, I’m pretty confident someone would know it’s full history.
@kushunadkat90873 жыл бұрын
Please keep it retro and preserve the “living fossils” of the extinct computers so that inquisitive minds in the future won't only have to rely on the theoretical material but can look at well preserved fossils and learn “what it used to be” and “how far have we got” of the modern computers. Ik it has little to no functionality left or that it wasn’t a marvel of a computer in its own time either but it still looks good after cleaning. Can you please do that? : )
@Cmdrbzrd3 жыл бұрын
Umm, it's a dumb terminal. Of course there was no functionality left, because there barely was any to begin with! A dumb terminal requires being hooked up to a mainframe computer to do anything.
@kushunadkat90873 жыл бұрын
@@Cmdrbzrd as I said "it wasn't a Marvel of a computer in it's own time either" but it looks good
@oromis9953 жыл бұрын
@@kushunadkat9087 it's not a computer though. It's a keyboard and monitor with extra electronics to handle ports and stuff.
@kushunadkat90873 жыл бұрын
@@oromis995 😅😂
@2jpu5243 жыл бұрын
Using a USB-FTDI serial port interface, you can easily and cheaply connect this to your PC/raspberry-PI/etc. A terminal emulator program will allow you to decode it without needing to write any of your own code.. This can be done on the cheap.
@drummergirl42393 жыл бұрын
Hugh: i dont have a scraper *uses scraper to take off the moldy serial # sticker
@EternalAnglo3 жыл бұрын
I think he meant a washing scrubber
@horusfalcon3 жыл бұрын
That was a guitar pick, man.
@No-vg7lh3 жыл бұрын
Drummer girl its a pick
@nathank70063 жыл бұрын
@@horusfalcon it’s an Ifixit phone screen adhesive scraper, he uses them in most of his phone repairs
@WolfyRed3 жыл бұрын
77 likes nice
@Rybagz3 жыл бұрын
Being a terminal, powering on at most on a working model would likely give you nothing but a flashing cursor if not connected to a host. This looks nothing like an IBM compatible mainframe terminal or a VT52/100 etc. (the obvious clue is in the keyboard content/layout). My guess is either a terminal for a lesser known mainframe series or more likely some sort of proprietary minicomputer (and there were lots of them until the likes of Wang and Prime started dying off in the 1980s) - also the company that made these in all likelihood just produced peripherals and not the machines you connected them to. Before terminal emulation on PCs became the done thing there were lots of non-OEM terminals available for most popular systems.
@beeskneeslol3 жыл бұрын
tbh, since how old it is and how it was found in condition, I agree with you even though he made it in a good condition. Just because it looks nice doesn't mean its good on the inside.
@macieksoft3 жыл бұрын
Can be generic UART/RS232 terminal. Tons of different models of those character oriented terminals were made. 3270 series for mainframes were a different kind of dog, proprietary protocol, field oriented, designed for S370. IBM frames used proprietary tech quite often. Minicomputers often used more common/standard stuff.
@scottlarson15483 жыл бұрын
If it were an IBM mainframe terminal, wouldn't it have had a SEND key instead of a RETURN key? I remember those terminals operated in block mode instead bothering the mainframe with every keystroke.
@legend-gamer59053 жыл бұрын
LOL
@wememelol2 жыл бұрын
Bro that thing bout to take off with that sound
@incumbentvinyl92912 жыл бұрын
Thanks for showing us the feces! GG would be proud.
@VeioPescador3 жыл бұрын
Be a parent and you will always find unindentified grime.
@goosenman23 жыл бұрын
This would likely make a neat 'hidden gaming PC' with enough work.
@bluberrialpha3 жыл бұрын
@Good Old Gamer I think a pi would be too small for something this big, I mean there’s plenty of room, wouldn’t you rather fit a mini itx board in it instead?
@growtopiajaw3 жыл бұрын
With a crt? Lol
@resneptacle3 жыл бұрын
@@growtopiajaw If we ignore that this CRT is most likely not able to display high resolutions (or color graphics), CRTs are quite gorgeous and clean looking with good blacks and high refresh rates if you get a high quality one
@dalesantospliego6493 жыл бұрын
You mean sleeper pc 👌
@AviatingRandom3 жыл бұрын
what all parents think their kids treat their electronics like:
@animeloveer97 Жыл бұрын
cause they do lol
@InsanercYT3 жыл бұрын
You are so dedicated it’s unbelievable
@TFreshour082 жыл бұрын
Moment of silence for all of the paper towels lost in this video.
@adews72043 жыл бұрын
I think you should try to fix it and keep the original internals, this computer deserves to live
@Anonymous-qr4ev3 жыл бұрын
This^ unless something is totally unfixable/Unreplaceable, then it deserves a chance. However, if this is a dummy terminal like the other comments mentioned then even if it’s fixed it’s going to be useless without a mainframe to plug into, especially considering the one com port isn’t even wired to the mobo anymore
@jussapitka60413 жыл бұрын
@@Anonymous-qr4ev No need for a mainframe, it could be used as a Linux terminal for example
@Anonymous-qr4ev3 жыл бұрын
@@jussapitka6041 I mean, as long as he can connect up that serial port ur probably right, I just was going off what was said in the video lol
@yet_another_communist3 жыл бұрын
@@jussapitka6041 yeah, and play command line games, with BBSes or something. It would be very interesting, or change the CRT and make a retro gaming machine, would be amazing.
@MetalTrabant3 жыл бұрын
@@jussapitka6041 I highly doubt the Linux kernel supports hardware that was made more than a decade before the kernel even started to be developed...
@elvispretzel93313 жыл бұрын
Whatever you do with it, i think it would be great to see the keyboard working with the final product. Its the perfect example of vintage goodness. Keycaps that put tungsten to shame, contactless honeywell switches, a case that you could probably use in the zombie appocalypse, i would love to see the keyboard speaking with a modern computer or something
@Velocitist3 жыл бұрын
I could imagine the smell just by looking at it, good work!
@Z1_Gamer3 жыл бұрын
funny thing is you posted this video on my birthday July 24th !
@shaquilleoneal453 жыл бұрын
Those vintage SA profile key caps are so sweet!! I’d love to hear a sound test on the restored keyboard & switches.
@cesariojpn3 жыл бұрын
Looks like we need a collab with LGR or Retro Man Cave.
@quinn_nz3 жыл бұрын
Or The8BitGuy
@ryanlovesmicrowaves3 жыл бұрын
Someone that’ll actually fix it instead of putting something else inside
@resneptacle3 жыл бұрын
Or Adrian's Digital Basement
@si_cario79933 жыл бұрын
"it's probably animal poop" Me: no i think its dirt "it has a foul smell" Note: don't let the cat sit on top of the computer
@aleksandersats95773 жыл бұрын
You should repair it rather than put a new pc inside. It's quite unique, even the fan is really unique as I have never seen a computer use an AC fan
@MTBTYLERINITTT3 жыл бұрын
I very much agree!
@eyemem50803 жыл бұрын
Yes
@itsmoses79733 жыл бұрын
This isn’t a “computer”, this is a terminal. Which is just a display with keyboard attached. There is no brain inside. Even with this thing fixed up, it’s useless.
@adaml67933 жыл бұрын
And how are you able to find parts for such an old machine
@itsmoses79733 жыл бұрын
@@NHbinaaa111 Not even close. It’s like the equivalent of the NEX dock. You need to connect a real computer to it to use it.
@ENDTIMEsVideoLibrary3 жыл бұрын
Very brave of you!! That thing probably won many awards for Natiest Computer in the World!!
@tafheemyeasir16063 жыл бұрын
You should've gotten an hazmat suit.
@dialupdude3 жыл бұрын
11:16 I recognise that speaker mounted in the keyboard assembly, it was used in many Telecom Australia rotary phones from that time.
@murcamwin3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I saw that. I still have some that have never been used, they were used in the earpiece of the later 400 series phones and then in the mouthpiece and earpiece of the 800 series.
@juddlewis99393 жыл бұрын
The sticker he removed also said telecom on it so it was most likely owned by telecom
@lemau84583 жыл бұрын
Tar from smoker's lungs removed from their lungs and placed on a 1980s PC
@resneptacle3 жыл бұрын
Doubt that's tar
@ahsannaseem38223 жыл бұрын
hugh: after correcting my mistake and trying again this happened ... me waiting for a blast xd
@abdulmuizzabdulaziz8243 жыл бұрын
Trueeee🤣🤣🤣
@paarthureddy27083 жыл бұрын
Timestamp someone please
@MetalTrabant3 жыл бұрын
I was just expecting a command prompt to appear...
@utzufideli97693 жыл бұрын
@@MetalTrabant i was expecting a blinking cursor bc thats typical for those terminals. they are literaly like cmd.exe or a linux tty shell but as a device that plugs into a headless pc.
@pikuhana3 жыл бұрын
I expected the reaction I got, he probably shorted something
@VRestoration3 жыл бұрын
It looks very good aesthetically speaking but I would have loved to see it working
@JO3YSworld3 жыл бұрын
This is e sort of stuff I love being preserved and deserves to be preserved, so so interesting and important to see how things have developed over the years to teach the younger generations how advancements work.
@KennethPlaysOfficial3 жыл бұрын
The mold when it touches the mold killer: *_A-_* **dead**
@mariosanchezolmedo68983 жыл бұрын
Well, thats the idea
@KennethPlaysOfficial3 жыл бұрын
@@mariosanchezolmedo6898 Yup
@KennethPlaysOfficial3 жыл бұрын
@@mariosanchezolmedo6898 does the job
@adibahsan713 жыл бұрын
I would love to see it restored or preseved as it is kind of a piece of history I guess
@Art_Murder3 жыл бұрын
I watch a lot of restoration videos and this is the first I've thought "I wouldn't touch that". Braver man than I.
@stephenw29922 жыл бұрын
Any Australian that saves things from sheds is used to cleaning possum urine off things
@philip39632 жыл бұрын
"useless foam" I can see every keyboard enthusiast crying right now
@megaclodsire3 жыл бұрын
It's neat to see that the internal wires are actually braided. A very interesting detail
@dappermanphoto3 жыл бұрын
This needs to be talked about with Techmoan or sent to him. He'll know exactly what this is.
@WolfyRed3 жыл бұрын
32 likes nice
@greenaum3 жыл бұрын
This isn't his thing at all, he does home entertainment stuff. This is commercial / industrial computing, not his field at all. There are experts in museums and online for this sort of thing. Many of whom used to work with it when it was new (and EXPENSIVE!). Sadly, every year, more of them grow old and die. But they're often extremely keen, they really loved this stuff, especially the programmers and system guys, so they've done what they can to get their information written down so it can survive them.
@animeloveer97 Жыл бұрын
nah hes more audio equipment eevblog now he might know
@syed1x3 жыл бұрын
we need more deep cleaning videos on youtube, theyre so satisfying.
@tombickerstaff50193 жыл бұрын
Next up: cleaning my filthy desk after the grotesque 1980’s computer.
@charliec1933 жыл бұрын
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@stormerbuzz3522 жыл бұрын
It must have been amazingly satisfying to slowly see it becoming cleaner
@MissInformer2 жыл бұрын
I'd be interested in seeing this old guy restored rather than gutted tbh, though im about a year late on commenting. That's an old school computer. More than likely it was from a period where individual computer set ups didn't have their own OS, and ran data fed into it from a cable connected to the main server. It used to be easier to do that since storage was incredibly massive and expensive back in the day. It made it possible to store the data in one space, and have a compact unit on your desk in your office.
@riverandquiver9093 жыл бұрын
This is the greatest deep cleaning computer restoration of All Time
@Alphari-w3 жыл бұрын
Ya
@N3KO_793 жыл бұрын
Hugh's mom: *Hugh, where are all my cleaning products?* Hugh: *Sorry mom, i used all for a video in youtube!* 😂
@somewhatacat75263 жыл бұрын
You have been a bad boy Hugh..you are grounded.....no smartphones or computers for a week
@mariosanchezolmedo68983 жыл бұрын
@@somewhatacat7526 Hugh:NOOOOOO-
@GameN3rdz3 жыл бұрын
On
@hyper-novaa3 жыл бұрын
Hugh: ma if you like what happened to your cleaning products hit that subscribe button.
@MizushimaNaomiz3 жыл бұрын
the truth is that these videos are very satisfactory, I don't know if some of them like it
@blorpburnday42493 жыл бұрын
if you liked this then you can check out the worst vic-20 i have seen from 8 bit guy
@usedmacbook3 жыл бұрын
Hugh Jeffreys is amazing at fixing computers of any age.
@nysaea3 жыл бұрын
you mean cleaning?
@usedmacbook3 жыл бұрын
@@nysaea nah mate he refurbishes computers as well
@nysaea3 жыл бұрын
@@usedmacbook Okay refurbishes yeah. Your comment was a tad hyperbolic. Especially on that video.
@MICROBYTESIO2 жыл бұрын
Does this guy ever make part 2s?
@TriAngulumAudioStudios3 жыл бұрын
Hey, I just ran across your channel and I love it! :) Im a HUGE fan of repair and restoration videos, there's something so satisfying about them :)
@i_had_3_pugs3 жыл бұрын
Bruh I wouldn’t just go with a spray bottle and paper towel, I’d use a pressure washer on that thing 😂
@charliec1933 жыл бұрын
Same tbh
@darijoe13 жыл бұрын
Excuse me while I go to the shower after watching this. Well cleaned up, Hugh!
@spankyharland98453 жыл бұрын
looks like that computer went on a walkabout in the outback.....great job mate...
@clydemarshall80953 жыл бұрын
The historian in me is balking at the idea of gutting that to turn it into a completely new computer.
@MikeStavola3 жыл бұрын
That's an absolutely beautiful terminal. I'd love to use it to control the server in my home.
@1993MAZDAMIATA3 жыл бұрын
You can do that?
@hectorvanderaa3 жыл бұрын
imagine if that keyboard had vintage cherry mx blacks in them
@SuperToRee3 жыл бұрын
*softer clicks*
@ace_horizon3 жыл бұрын
but micro switch hall effect is better though
@nysaea3 жыл бұрын
yeah with that dunk in soapy water they're probably dead now.
@henrymilne94613 жыл бұрын
"removing the two random and useless pieces of foam" you have just declared war on r/mk
@easyybreezeyy3 жыл бұрын
Loved this video, very satisfying!
@mikemorrisonmusic3 жыл бұрын
I half expected the screen to explode after being turned on.
@shubh1dillpickle3 жыл бұрын
the foam inside the keyboard is dampening foam to make it sound better when you type
@dennyken253 жыл бұрын
Damn this is the best comment I ever read. Thanks for making my morning better
@mitsostechtips90473 жыл бұрын
Leave it as is, it would be a shame to ''kill'' the patina on it or even change the classic hardware
@MetalTrabant3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, there are probably not much left of these in original condition... if any. It's a piece of history, even if it can't do anything without a mainframe.
@murcamwin3 жыл бұрын
@@MetalTrabant At the ACMS we have the mainframes, we just need some people to help get them working, I totally agree it would be a sad day if this terminal was gutted.
@Lightning20113 жыл бұрын
Seeing the thumbnail made me think it was a new Odd Tinkering video lol.
@Granitechicken3 жыл бұрын
Mother: we have computer at home, the computer at home-
@gteixeira3 жыл бұрын
If this computer was saved unrestored for another 20 years it would make it to the "Restore It" channel.
@bumquack24613 жыл бұрын
I love how those old chunky keyboards look. Would love one for my current setup but they cost an arm and a leg
@animeloveer97 Жыл бұрын
they did back then too
@the_good_lad3 жыл бұрын
Should've just pressure washed this with some strong disinfectant.
@serraramayfield92303 жыл бұрын
99% IPA, and electronics cleaner respectively heated to 150-180 degrees Fahrenheit. Cycle between them with 1 soap pressure wash, followed by a rinse.
@officialdarkcompass3 жыл бұрын
Love to see this as a sleeper gaming machine. Finding a display panel to fit and replace the monochrome monitor will be your main thing issue though.
@jarmingho3 жыл бұрын
Your video is so satisfying to watch!
@Aurora-lu6bs3 жыл бұрын
me studying keyboards before watching this: hugh: useless pieces of foam me, horrified: u s e l e s s ????????????