Hulk Hogan Shoots on WCW Bash at the Beach: Exclusive Unreleased Audio

[@TheBubbaArmy]

VINCE RUSSO'S RESPONSE: kzbin.info4rX6cENm7Vg?feature=share

[@dachronicalalittlebitofeve6630]

I won’t click this link, because I don’t care what Russo says and I also don’t care for bubba the spunk sponge either, both of them suck as human beings….

[@joeysanchez5926]

Noone cares about the janitor's thoughts.

[@Jameslfgsmith]

Lee me get in those big titties Bubba!

[@Henry-y8b9q]

​@@joeysanchez5926 Vince Russo the janitor fired hogan from wcw😁😁😁

[@williamsmith666]

Fuck what Russo thinks

[@TheWillisShow]

Hogan sounds exhausted, but he probably had a restless night. He’s absolutely right about Kidman, though. You use a vet like Hogan to get a guy over, you SHOULD make him a star.

[@woodystheman289]

“Kidman should never of had that spot with Hogan anyway” ain’t that the absolute truth

[@Dr.Meth666]

Kidman was badass

[@friendlygiant2314]

It certainly shouldn't have been done as a one on one. They should have had the filthy animals picking him apart with hit and run tactics and take him down and they make the story about how no one will help Hogan because he's double crossed everyone so many times. They could have easily made Hogan a sympathetic face who is just trying to redeem himselves and made the filthy animals a tougher group because they're now doing what the NWO use to do.

[@trelard]

Now THIS is what some people would call a "historic find". A side of the story so close to the time it happened. Pretty sure that's the most honest Hogan was about it, before all the embellishments entered over the years. Good find.

[@brixtonmystery]

He sounds honest

[@sssarzzz]

@@brixtonmystery but almost everything he said is a lie...hogan left right after getting the belt..he wasnt even in the building.

[@vinylhorror]

@@sssarzzzthat’s the part that bugs me about this. As “honest” as The rest of this sounds, basically the first thing he says is a lie lol fkn Hogan

[@Prof_Tickles92]

You can watch the in ring stuff and Hogan’s lips aren’t moving. There’s no way he said that much to Jeff while Jeff was lying down.

[@GaryCantrell]

Still mind blown at this one. Can't believe the internet hasn't heard this one yet. Incredible find.

[@popacap]

1st time 👂it and im loving it

[@jasonkraatz9574]

I read the article about this audio a few days ago and couldn’t wait to listen to it. This was Hogan right after this all went down so I’m curious what he has to say.

[@pyro791]

So my understanding is that this was the Monday morning following that PPV? I can’t believe this hasn’t been posted before. Love this stuff.

[@RuinNationGaming]

yeah its all about jeff jarrets side no one ever got hulks side

[@Oh-ffs]

​@@RuinNationGaming Hulk has many sides of every story he tells lmao. My favorite is him wrestling more than 365 days in a year because of flights to Japan 😂

[@jlopez0710]

If you really try and hear him. He has some reasons or some actual point behind his frustrations. Hes right about laying down for Sting. Hes right about putting Kidman over and that going nowhere. Hes absolutely right if building stars was THE priority, Kidman shouldve beat Goldberg then Sting like how Hogan says.

[@TheBubbaArmy]

Exactly this was from hogan and less than 10 hours after the event

[@loscoolarrows5903]

He had me until the razor blade in the mouth thing

[@vs4571]

No way should Kidman beat Goldberg, or even Stung! lmao a match for sure, and maybe cheat to win against them. He shoulda kept rising the ranks but I guess the fans weren’t responsive to Kidman as they anticipated.

[@d.harris5971]

​@@vs4571I think the point being made was Hogan should not have been doing jobs to Kidman. He was still on the level of Sting and Goldberg. If Hogan was going to be doing the job to the same guy multiple times and having to cheat to finally get a dub then whoever that guy is should be getting pushed to the top. It was a shot at Russo and his shitting booking.

[@pandoblier]

But he should have a real fight against sting. Laying down is nothing worth.

[@WrestlingCovers]

Wow, thank you for this. Incredible.

[@jessaphillips2846]

It’s been 25 years almost and I’m still not entirely certain whether or not Vince McMahon sent Vince Russo to WCW to bury the company…

[@rogelioarmentasolorzano3848]

On purpose.. I don’t think so… BUT he was aware of Russo’s bad ideas so…

[@ath85]

Yeah a lot of people think that it was a conspiracy. I mean think about it, Russo saying things on TV like "See, even I can be WCW champion and I'm not even an athlete." Or the Sin PPV promo I think where the narrator says "Goldberg didn't follow the script so this time it's for real."

[@tylernelson3343]

There was interview with Rick Steiner he stated that he believes that Vince Russo was sent by Vince McMahon to destroy WCW.

[@ShadowAngel1860]

No and there was no reason for it, since Vince McMahon already had the right of first refusal if WCW was put on sale since 1996. Ever since then he knew he'd own WCW one day. Look up the story of the sale as told by Bob Ryder. The end of WCW was a practically illegal, inside deal conducted by Brad Siegel and his good buddy Stu Snyder (at the time COO of Titan Sports) Besides, Kevin Nash already booked WCW into hell. Russo didn't cause that much damage, because it was already pretty much destroyed.

[@tonynorris1506]

WWF switched to the"Crash TV" formula to compete with the NWO/Sting angle, but after that was over and WWF's formula started working, WCW hired Russo thinking that he could mimic it, and it turned the company into a joke.

[@BrianWelskopp-iw1sw]

Hogan was smart to have creative control over his matches to protect his name and image after busting his @$$ for 20 years.

[@CLuvTV]

I always quote Nash: "The whole business is a work"

[@coryudler8477]

Thanks, Bubba. This is great

[@Swaytekk]

Legend has it that Hulk hogan is still WCW champion

[@linkueiavenger4065]

Technically he is lmfao.

[@don8244]

If you go to Hogan's beach shop in Florida, you can see the WCW belt that he walked out with there

[@SteelSunday]

and CM Punk is AEW champion

[@assassinsknight]

Fun fact Hogan never lost WCW title and CM Punk is still the real AEW title to this day.

[@Drummer8282]

And Bret Hart is still WWF champion

[@bb-gc2tx]

this is rare audio jones right here bubba you the man

[@McLeodclansman]

Bash at the Beach 2000 is when Hogan realized it's not wise to work yourself into a shoot, brother.

[@CatStanleySpaceDemon]

This is awesome. Thanks Backstabber Bubba.

[@CreedenceandMikey]

This was great!

[@bryanmack4054]

4:00 LOL “what’s his name”…Jarrett was an afterthought even by his peers

[@michaelwarren3521]

Bubba Army thank you for giving us this gold!! Thank you

[@GunzNGearz]

I don't think Hogan's lying here. Believe it or not

[@pjinman4512]

Same

[@GunzNGearz]

​@Daniel Plainview 419 honestly I think that was his greed shining thru. I seen his contract but I don't think, that he thinks, that's him getting paid. His greedy ass wants that merchandise money and gate. This guy has made more money then we would know what to do with. Hell he has lost enough money to drive a normal person like us to suicide.

[@mitchbuff]

@manchujw22I caught that too

[@MikeFromBensonhurst]

@Daniel Plainview 419 He told a half truth lol , Hogan got extra money for appearing on PPV’s so he was making less money

[@danielvrodriguez81]

He was talking about the ppv money. You have to keep it in context.

[@douglasjames1943]

This is so cool to finally hear after all these years, since every single version of the story of that night didnt seem to ring true and was told years after the fact. This is literally the next day, it cant be any fresher in Hogan's mind. And while Hogan is known to exaggerate and even lie, this seems to be very matter of fact and truthful. I like the idea of little Nick giving the belt to Vince on Raw, LOL!

[@terrymoore595]

Can't take anything that guys says as truth

[@emmanuelgarcia619]

He was a 60yr old man inserting z’s into words like “I had to take a piz-iss” “he’s a real priz-ick” “shiz-its on” .. what grown man being honest talks like that?

[@tonynorris1506]

@@emmanuelgarcia619 even though I was thinking the same, he was in his mid 40s and trying to sound cool (he just turned 70, this was 25yrs ago) Probably due to hanging around Rodman and all the hip-hop fans in the NWO, that's when "ebonics" were popular due to Snoop and other rappers. It was also a way to cuss on air, but he def took it a little overboard . 😂 In his mid 00s stuff with Bubba, he does the same and it gets pretty damn cringe at times.

[@tonynorris1506]

@@emmanuelgarcia619 u hit the nail on the head! 😂 The entire post reminds me of Scott Hall and Randy Savage... LOL As far as Hulk, he seems like a poser with the lingo tho... I doubt he was even into hip-hop and probably just listened/watched the younger dudes and wanted to sound cool. Randy Savage did this also, even made that damn rap album, but I think he was a hip-hop fan. Hall and Nash were huge hip-hop fans, and then after Master P came into WCW (and left shortly after) Rey Mysterio and Konan started using hip-hop gimmicks, but out of all people, Scott Steiner started using Master P lingo. 😂 Even as a pre-teen hip-hop fan, I thought that was cringe as hell! "Big Poppa Pump's got the hook up... HOLLARRR... if you hear ME" -Steiner 😂 PS: I remember the announcers used to call Sean Waltman "6 Pack" in WCW and then "X Pack" at first when he went back to WWF... 😂

[@EddieHenderson92]

I also think Hogan is honest here because he didn't have enough time to come up with a lie.

[@thashoeboy]

How am I just now hearing this. For years I tried to find out about this PPV & Havoc '99

[@keithcanfield6519]

Dude this is a awesome story that i have not Heard I do miss these days!

[@natsfan3114]

More content like this I loved this shoot

[@WillHendersonTX]

who's here after the Dark Side Of The Ring episode on the Bash At The Beach work that turned into a shoot that played a part in what lead to WCW's death.

[@RemoWilliams1227]

Subbed, thank you for sharing this with us.

[@nothingtoseehear5012]

Everyone points out Hogan's 'that doesn't work for me brother' creative control in his contract at the time, but if you listen to him at 2:05 he describes the situation perfectly. Creatives at the time (Vince 'Bro' Russo) don't know what to do with a person like HULK HOGAN? And when he puts someone like STING over, then they have nothing for Hulk Hogan to do after? Then he agrees to put Billy 'who is this' Kidman over, and that goes no where as well??? Yeah I'd be like 'that doesn't work for me brother' constantly. 'That works for me brother' would only be said to someone who says I know what to do with you, we have a run built up lasting for a year, leading to a big pay per view. Then again is Hogan stretching reality and the truth? It's always possible, given his reputation.

[@iamthewalruscuckookachoo1372]

Wow this is absolute gold. I always wanted to know the real story behind that crazy night.

[@TheBubbaArmy]

Please share this very exclusive content This was the morning after the incident. This story has been widely reported, but not from the horses mouth less than 10 hours after it happened.

[@GLPitt1]

It's still not the real story. It's the Hogan version. Which is always mostly made up. Lol

[@EggzOverEZ]

Take Hogan words with a grain of salt b r o t h e r

[@Crosis2814]

This coming from Hogan who thinks he's a time traveler and wrestled more days than in a year or somehow after he body slammed andre, he died a week later?

[@iamthewalruscuckookachoo1372]

@@Crosis2814 You are all hear ffs watching it like me. If you don't believe it brother why watch ? Lmfao. Hogan can't lie about everything you marks.

[@brianhopson2072]

Wow. This really is legit. Thanks for sharing.

[@SeanzViewEnt]

Finally the truth is told after 24 years

[@RuinNationGaming]

yep so many people hate hogan on youtube they only ever wanted jeff's side

[@solomonaharris1807]

Hogan is full of 💩 he knew the plan and wouldn’t do business the right way. Don’t get me wrong I like Hulk Hogan but I feel like he’s full of 💩.

[@Bubba_Army_For_Life]

This is awesome

[@matthewalkman386]

Totally with Hogan on this. Russo and Jarrett gave up, but it was a bad situation altogether

[@chadmonk-po5yj]

Watch dark side of the ring JJ just did what he was told to do

[@rolandobaluja7504]

Hogan was in business for himself

[@IWRInteractive]

Big Hogan fan. Always believed this to be a shoot. I know Eric Bischoff has tried to put a spin on it being a work but I never bought it. I do think this audio confirms it was a shoot. It also explains why Hulk wanted nothing to do with Russo in TNA as well. If you can't figure out what to do with Hulk Hogan when he still had miles left in the ring and you're a booker, you ought to seek a different line of work. Thank you for posting this. This made my day.

[@bobby99137]

damn this is a great upload

[@jonbarbour6771]

This is the equivalent of Captain America refusing to do a scene with Iron Man where he gets outwitted because he doesn't like that the producers gave Robert Downey Jr. creative control to 'win' that scene. The problem is with the person who doesn't understand the game.

[@MichaelDoesLife]

I bet you believe Montreal was a shoot

[@toogood222]

I really like the context in the beginning to describe when this was 👍👍

[@AWrestlingHistorian]

BASH AT THE BEACH - FINALLY MY SIDE "It all began after I wrote the script from my home prior to BATB. To be honest, I can’t remember exactly the original script-but I believe in the match between Jeff Jarrett and Hulk Hogan I somehow had Scott Steiner involved. Either Hogan was carried out-or he did the laying out-I don’t remember-I just remember that Jeff Jarrett left with his WCW Heavyweight Title-that outcome was vital being that by the end of the night there would be circumstances that led to Jeff defending the title against Booker T.-with Booker being crowned the new WCW Heavyweight Champion. Booker winning the title was something the entire booking committee agreed upon a week prior, simply because Booker had deserved it. Once the script was written I sent it to the John Laurinaitis, who was going to be the agent of the match. Johnny was to call Hulk and get his input. After calling Hulk, Johnny called me back and told me that Hulk hated the way the match was laid out-I said no problem and immediately went back to the drawing board. At that time all I cared about was Jeff leaving the match against Hogan with the belt-so we could get to the Booker scenario. At that point I re-wrote the script and implemented a Hulk Hogan-King Kong-finish. Hulk would clean house-get to Jarrett and Steiner-leaving bodies everywhere-BUT-not leaving with the belt-I believe his actions got him DQ’d-but honestly I don’t remember the exact specifics. Once I came up with that scenario I called Johnny again-who called Hogan again-to run it by him. Johnny called me back and said that Hulk “loved” it-something Hulk later denied ever saying. So that discrepancy lies with Hulk and Johnny-I don’t know for sure what the conversation was between the two-and who said what-I only know what Johnny told me. At that point, I think everybody is happy. The truth is that I wasn’t told differently until about two hours prior to the match. Going about my business backstage the day of the event-Eric Bischoff approached me to inform me that Hulk didn’t like the finish and wasn’t going to do it. This is the first time that I was aware that there was a problem. He told me that Hogan was in his trailer and that I needed to go talk to him-so I did. When I entered the trailer, it was the three of us-myself, Hogan and Bischoff. The first thing I was told by Eric was that he and Hulk had discussed a different finish and that they had called Brad Siegel (who was in charge of wrestling operations at the time) and that Siegel loved the finish, but told them that they had to OK it with me first. At that time Hulk laid out the story. Again, being five years ago I can’t remember the specifics-but there are two key elements which I will never forget. The first one being that before Hulk laid out the story he said, “Let’s do this as if it were a shoot”. The second detail was-Hulk walking out winning the match and becoming the new WCW Champion. In my mind I knew that couldn’t happen-mainly because only days earlier the entire booking committee agreed that it was Booker’s time. Not only did I have to stand by their decision-but I also agreed wholeheartedly with it. I felt strongly that Booker needed to leave the building that night the WCW Champion. At the time, in my view and in the view of the committee-that was the best thing for the company and everyone involved in it. Time was ticking away-we were less than two hours away from showtime. As Hulk was laying out the story to me, I was already thinking on my feet. My objective was to make him happy-while keeping our plans in tack. After Hulk finished his story, I basically told him that that didn’t work for me. I then used his words and said, “However-if you really want to do this as a 'shoot', how about this?" Here’s the story I laid out to both Eric and Hulk. I said, “If you want this to look like a shoot-let’s make it look like a shoot. Let’s try this-I walk into the building tonight and I find out that Hulk Hogan is playing his “creative control” card and refuses to do the job to Jeff Jarrett. Now-if as a shoot that was the case-this is how Vince Russo would react--I would go to Jeff, who is my friend, tell him what was going on-and then direct him to lay down for Hogan in the middle of the ring the minute the bell rang. Being ringside I would then tell Hogan, `There-you have exactly what you want-cover him and take your precious belt.’ Now Hogan-not having many options-would cover Jarrett-take the belt-because that’s what he really wanted-and then leave. However, in order to work the boys in the back, making EVERYBODY believe this was a shoot--the story had to go one step further--Hogan would be so upset that I showed him up that he would go in the back-get Bischoff-his friend-and the two of them would leave the building in a huff. I explained to Hulk that that part of the story was vital, because in order for me to get to the main event between Jeff and Booker I had to go back out to the ring later in the evening-cut a scathing (my exact word) promo on Hogan saying that he can keep his belt-because that belt didn’t mean anything-there would be a “real” Championship match tonight and it would be between Booker T. and Jeff Jarrett for the “real” WCW Title. Now-that part of the story is crucial because in order for this to look like a shoot to the boys-Bischoff and Hogan had to leave the building (which they did) because if they were still in it when I cut the promo on Hogan-then Hulk would have had to come out and KILL me!

[@AWrestlingHistorian]

After I laid this out to Hulk-with Eric there-he looked at me wide-eyed and said, “I like it.” He then said, “Yeah, and then I could have one belt, and Booker could have the other and we could go from there.” Now again, all I was concerned about that night was what we had written as a committee. Being that I had just come up with this on the fly, I had no idea where we could go with this. So I told Hulk, “We’ll talk about where we go with this-I’ll call you tomorrow.” From there I found Jeff and I completely worked him. I told him that Hulk didn’t want to do the job for him and he needed to just go out there and lay down for Hogan. Jeff was furious-I had never seen him so mad. Man, it was tough working Jeff-my friend-but keep in mind, Hulk, Eric and myself had all agreed that we were going to work the boys in order to make this come off as “real” as possible. So the match went down-just like the three of us discussed-Jeff wasn’t in on anything. After the 1-2-3 Hogan took the belt, found Eric and the two stormed out of the building. The boys were buying this hook, line and sinker. From there I went out to the ring and cut that “scathing” promo that Hulk and I had discussed earlier. The whole reason for the promo was to get to the Jeff/Booker match. It was my job to tie it all together and make it all make sense. That’s all I cared about-I just wanted to get to the main event-like we had planned-with it all making sense. Just an aside: If you remember my character in WCW, every time I went out in front of the people I ALWAYS wore a New York jersey. Well, it you remember that night I wore a San Francisco Giants jersey-something totally out of character for me-again, that was all part of the “shoot”-being that I didn’t have a New York jersey on this time-it had to be real!!! That’s how closely I looked at this “angle”. Well, the next day everybody was talking about it-and everybody was believing it. It was incredible. Even I didn’t think the boys could be worked like that. The next day I pulled Jeff aside and told him what really happened-I just had a real hard time working him when he was right in the middle of it. It’s funny, but Jeff really didn’t seem that surprised. Being a veteran of the business and seeing just about everything-Jeff took it in stride and didn’t seemed “shocked” by any of it. If I made a single mistake throughout this entire incident-here it was-I never called Hogan back the next day like I told him I would. Why? Because we were at Nitro and I had no idea where to go with the story. I just didn’t have the time to think it through. In other words if I called him-I just didn’t know what to tell him-so I just didn’t call-my bad-hindsight being 20/20 I should have. When we got back to the office from TV I meet with Brad Siegel and told him what happened. I also told Brad that I hadn’t called Hulk yet because I didn’t know what to tell him. I wasn’t sure where to go with this. At that point Brad told me that financially we just couldn’t afford to use Hulk Hogan right now so I should just think about going on with the story without him. So-I never called Hulk back. If it were today I would have-I would have been honest with him and told him what Brad had told me-but at the time . . . I just didn’t think it was in my place. Was it a cop-out? Maybe? But at the time---there was no way that I was thinking clearly-the truth is-I was probably on the verge of a nervous breakdown. You all know the rest of the story. A few days later I was hit with a defamation of character lawsuit by Hulk Hogan, claiming that he knew nothing about the interview beforehand that I cut on him in the ring. He claimed that I went in business for myself and he had no knowledge that I was going to do it. So there you have it-my side-to one of the greatest mysteries of all time. In closing, I would just like to add something that I said many times before the incident-and many times after--growing up I was a huge fan of Hulk Hogan, the fact is that wrestling would have never-NEVER-reached the heights it did without him. That translates into this-without Hulk Hogan Vince Russo would have never achieved what he did in the wrestling business because in my opinion the wrestling business would have probably not even existed. Hulk Hogan paved the way for me-and many, many others. I can’t thank him enough for that. I’ve said on many occasions that I would work together with Hulk Hogan in a heartbeat-and I mean that. With the lawsuit-I totally understand where he was coming from-I was never shocked by it because I know why it happened-but-I wish that we could both put it behind us. I wish that one day I would be able to thank him for making my career in wrestling possible-but-that is up to him." - Vince Russo Ring Of Glory website, 2005

[@TL2005]

Thank you for all the work put into this. Great read!

[@jayroman1978]

Excellent Breakdown. Hogan is working Here in this audio. Give it to Hogan keepin Kayfabe Alive thats respect. Hogan is the ultimate worker.

[@Charsi_Escobar]

You the man!

[@pandavelli8176]

@@AWrestlingHistorian Russo claims to be a writer but he doesn’t know the word “intact”? 😂

[@assassinsknight]

Hogan wanting to give the belt to Vince as a token of respect is gold.

[@OriginalTafili]

Why did it take 23 years for this to come out?

[@WrongedSports]

Hogan using carny slang is peak Hulk

[@bdot187um]

You gotta love it😂

[@I_dont_like_anime]

Love this! Hope Bubba & Hogan make up one day

[@popacap]

Bubba is the man and Hogan is just Hogan

[@kevintucker8462]

They did Bubba let Hogan slam bang his wife

[@mikefarese5591]

I was there when this happened! Had no idea what was going on

[@jordcarter2359]

Hulk's side of the story actually adds up. Ive heard Russo and Jarrett version , too many irregularities.

[@briangingull9641]

Hulk has changed his story several times so no, it doesn't add up.

[@Ringo_Valentino]

Good shoots!😁

[@dmahoney661]

I thought I had heard that Hogan and Bischoff had already left the arena by the time that went down.

[@Drummer8282]

I just wrote that myself 🤣 Eric lying again?

[@romeoigromo]

Years later this is so crazy because everybody’s version of this story is different. Hogan said he was still in the building after the match and Eric said they both left on a jet and heard about Russo promo later. Jeff said Hogan refused to work with him. Hogan said he was willing and Eric said it was all a work except for the Russo promo

[@darrinchase]

Imagine how much better it would have been if Hogan came back out during Russo

[@theceng]

Hulk and bishoff had already left before the Russo promo

[@justinczech1489]

@@theceng THANK YOU! They didn't know he came back out until they landed

[@bryanmack4054]

Hogan pulling a Richard belzer on Russo would’ve been great television

[@ItsTinoTime]

​@@thecengso Hogan lied is what you're saying?

[@cengiztemi8713]

@@ItsTinoTime yeh has lied repeatedly over the years. Remember his claim about summerslam 92? He wasn't even there

[@awesomeFrost]

I love how he still speaks some carny.

[@mach1sports]

Hulk is fn god. This is gold l hate this generation of trannys that disrespect him

[@InfectiousGroovePodcast]

Like everyone else, I'm never quite sure what you can believe when Hogan's lips are moving. Having said that, it's still fascinating to hear this.

[@Chess_Master631]

It's fascinating cause you know hes right.

[@anthonyclark9441]

With this happening as soon as it did, I could almost believe what Hogan says here. Some of it at least. His Contract was so sweet after he re-upped in 98, that losing Matches wouldn't bother him as much. He would get a Slice of the Ticket, Merch, and especially the PPV Revenue, every appearance that he made on the Shows. I think this is why he jobbed as much as he did from 98 up that point. I could see him agreeing to lose to Jarrett; especially if he's booked like his Hulkamaina days, and it takes half the Heel Roster to beat him. Of course he would want to know what's next, and if Russo really didn't have anything for him (which I buy because Russo wanted to run Hogan out of WCW), it's totally in reason that Hulk would pull the classic "That doesn't work for me Brother".

[@bdot187um]

16:14 "i just like to prove a point" which he did in 2002 comes back,has a classic with Rock becomes the world champion gets showered with standing ovations everywhere he went, honestly i think he could've easily hanged it up after mania 19.

[@rolandobaluja7504]

It was a fluke. Just because your past your prime and have a moment to reclaim 15 min of fame does not mean you are who you were

[@cutray8366]

Vince russo is one crazy man.

[@CharliesAngels00]

i hate him

[@KentKaliber]

INCREDIBLE HISTORY HERE! I have wondered what the REAL story was for over 20 years!

[@BigFresh37]

You still haven’t heard it.

[@KentKaliber]

@@BigFresh37 How is this not the real story? Hogan really shoots here.

[@zeitxgeist]

@@KentKaliber the "real" story is probably bits and pieces from all of their stories. we'll never know the real god's honest truth.

[@Drummer8282]

Just heard Bischoff speak on BB2000 and he claimed that he and Hogan didn’t know about the stuff Vince Russo had said in the ring until after Eric and Hulk had already left the building and arrived at Hulk’s home in Tampa. Then the phone blew up and people told them what was said. So Eric telling lies?

[@robdangripp9406]

At that time Russo was trying to make WCW more like WWF and he was trying to push out a lot of the older talent

[@luisrizo8813]

Post the 2007 audio of putting Johnny Ace's secretary on speaker about the HOF.

[@phillipg7315]

Hogan went to the ring without his knee brace or pads… he 100% knew Jarrett was laying down. It was all a work until Hogan LATER realized he was basically sent home and written off TV and that’s when shit got real.

[@stephonandrews7576]

Didnt even take his bandana off.

[@1980Triumph]

He knew they were attempting to screw him so he made plans to screw them. Russo was going to squash HH and ruin him so he saved himself. Russo played himself

[@kiwirooster6209]

lol at the late 90's/early 2000's slang Hogans slinging. "Fizuk" "I just woke up to take a Pizz'iz"

[@Son96601]

What? Bischoff and others have said that he and Hogan left the arena before Russo started his promo.

[@MelodyChiappetta]

THIS IS GREAT!!! I LOVE THIS!!!!

[@yakadoodledongywongy8718]

Hulk Hogan might just be the ultimate worker. He's always attempting to work somebody.

[@fmbbeachbum8163]

He also was "THE WORKER" he worked harder than anyone in the 80s. Dude gave 4 inches of his height to the leg drop.

[@bdot187um]

Don't hate the player hate the game brother!

[@nickfanzo]

He’s the best ever and he deserves to get what he earned

[@eamonndoconnor]

Brilliant 👏

[@gabeguzman9478]

Crazy, wcw executives told russo they couldn't afford hogan per what russo said but now hogan is saying they can't let him out of his contract which is also believeable

[@bdot187um]

If russo's story was accurate hogan would have been let go and left for the wwf, instead they kept paying him until 2002.

[@douglasmurphy3266]

They didn't want to breach him, they wanted to have him off of PPVs which under Russo were doing so poorly they weren't even making Hogan's minimum payout to appear. Hogan didn't suddenly stop being a draw, but PPVs did suddenly become a joke to Russo as he did everything for short term TV ratings, even shit like this deliberately pissing off paying customers with angles to create a buzz for the free show the next night.

[@wisesthuman2824]

"Shizzit"

[@danielvrodriguez81]

People don't ever get it. Hogan was not upset about the finish, he was upset because they had nothing for him coming up. Especially after all the jobs he had done.

[@bdot187um]

Exactly, alot of people think hogan was a mark for the belt when in fact he cared more about getting paid and being on the top billing then being the champion, ultimately he didn't agree to the russo finish cause he didn't have any future plans for the hulkster.

[@pussydestroyer87]

Hulk cares about what is best for Hulk.

[@rolandobaluja7504]

Hogan is full of bs . Hogan had creative control and hated doing jobs! Hogan rarely lost . It was even more rare for him to lose clean. Yes Hogan lost to sting , goldberg and lex luger look at every one hogan screwed over

[@rolandobaluja7504]

@@bdot187um Hogan did not care about long term booking. If hogan cared about long term booking he would have done a program with Bret Hart instead of playing hot potato with the wwe title and then going to new japan

[@bdot187um]

@@rolandobaluja7504 I was specifically talking about hogans future plans in wcw post bash of the beach 2000, back to 93 hulk was on his way out and vince like always played bret and gave him false hope that hogan was gonna work with him, fast forward to wcw the match was gonna happen at the fall of 99 but russo came and wrote hogan off tv, they even had a couple house show matches to prepare for it.

[@RickKoeppen]

Sounds like Hogan, at this time, didn't realize HE had the prop belt.

[@stevenspenadel5358]

You can tell Hogan is telling the truth just by his reaction whe. JJ laid down, and the way JJ looked pissed walking off

[@youtubebannedme4207]

hogan is the biggest liar in history I dont trust anything he says not to mention him changing the story multiple times

[@CircaMay85]

Yeah But how come years later Hogan changes the whole narrative? I have heard him in shoots saying all this was supposed to happen. What wasn't supposed to happen was right after he left Russo going to the ring and burying him.

[@kodiiayyeee256]

Nah hogan is a 10/10 liar bs'er....

[@justinczech1489]

Yeah no, he's been disproven here. JJ laying down was planned. Russo coming back out wasn't

[@willglenn-bl9gm]

This is so bad, Hogan needs Jesus, his lies are otherworldly

[@robintaylor485]

This is fantastic

[@shadycnetwork]

See that's the thing obviously Hogan didn't mindlosing he just wanted to know where things were going afterwards. I mean he lost to billy Kidman I don't think he would mind losing to Jeff

[@kylecaldwell6864]

People get pissed at the creative control contract Hogan demands but they still gotta type it up and sign it themselves. It’s business at the end of the day. Not to defend Hogan but he knows his brand and he protects it and the results go from company to company. You guys can get mad at Starbucks for charging so much and say it’s overpriced or it’s crap coffee or “it’s the logo” but at the end of the day if you’re still dropping $6 for a cup of black coffee you’re really to blame

[@-John-Doe-]

I would defend him and his brand. Hulk Hogan _is_ a valuable brand in wrestling. Probably the most. Some diehard wrestling fans might say otherwise, but for wider pop culture, only a couple come close - and at that time, there’s nobody close. If I sign a contract with another company to bring their IP over to my product, of course it must be agreeable to them for me to use it. The fact that he even agreed to do the things he did with his brand is just unbelievable as it is. hold on let me call up Disney right now, I need to have kid nobody beat up Darth Vader in my knockoff film, and then cry about the contract I signed for the rights.

[@1980Triumph]

Why not defend his brand, if he let others ruin him then nothing he did post 95 would have been worth a damn as most always wanted to bury him. HH gets a lack of respect but he did what literally every wrestler at the top does, some were far more worse. He protected himself - and it worked, he knew how to plug into the audiences and was still a massive draw, none of that would exist if others had control, they would have ruined him for sh!ts and giggles

[@jessaphillips2846]

This is the problem with having one guy in charge of booking a show. If he doesn’t have any ideas for someone they don’t get paid. If they had a team in creative they could have figured out something to do with Hogan.

[@michaeljohnson5733]

This totally contradicts what was said by Hogan on dark side of the ring…so is he lying here or on the show.

[@solomonaharris1807]

That’s why I think Hogan is full of 💩

[@ryanslater674]

I'll always love Hogan

[@chetthedebt2169]

Has anyone involved ever explained why the Jarrett/Hogan title match was placed before the Goldberg/Nash match on the BATB card?...An absolute anomaly for a Hogan title match. Or why they just happened to have the old WCW belt at the arena that night?

[@seanbean3826]

Glad I finally listened to this, much better than the transcripts I've read. Wcw was a mess.

[@rubenrivera1496]

Vince Russo believed he was solely responsible for creating the attitude era and thought he could recreate that in wcw. But the truth was all his ideas he came up with in the WWF, more than likely 99.99% of them were edited by Vince

[@makaveli4205]

Actually WWF ripped off ECW wrestling for the whole attitude thing

[@kbshowtyme]

If WWE didn't Have Austin, Rock, and DX to pull must of that stuff off it would of failed. The wrestlers had a ton to do with it. I can't think of anyone to get that Stone Cold and Rock character over like they did.

[@bdot187um]

​@@makaveli4205WWF ripped both the wcw & ecw formats and turned into the product we got from 97 onwards.

[@Eyeyamgod]

Stonecold Steve Austin is solely responsible for attitude era. As soon as he came up at Austin 316 at king of the ring the next raw had whoop ass and Austin 316 signs. His attitude and vulgarity just cut thru and shocked people. " Get that piece of crap out of my ring" lol Vince saw that Austin shirts were selling hot. They took cues from ECW and Austin to form the rest of the WWF. Austin had to exist for The Rock to flourish. All that reality and vulgarity made room for a little comedy. Austin deserves credit.

[@makaveli4205]

@@Eyeyamgod stone cold was in ECW for a few months when he was injured. He cut some awesome promos on that show

[@miracle_ftw]

Didn't Hogan admit that all of that in the ring was work brother. So this is tape of Bubba being worked by Hogan. Nice brother

[@matthewalkman386]

No he didn’t. Prove it or don’t comment

[@Henderson1011]

It's hard to say, considering this is not even 24 hours after it all went down. The comment above saying they heard Hogan and Bischoff were already out of the building by the time Russo tore Hogan apart on the microphone is true. Hogan's also said that everything was a work between them to come off as a shoot. Hogan has said that he and Bischoff were on a plane by the time Russo went back out there and neither one of them heard Russo as it was going on. He said he was aware that Russo was going to tear him down but said that Russo went too far and off the plans they came up with. He said when he and Bischoff heard what Russo said, then everything turned into a shoot and he got pissed. Hard telling what really happened with this. Probably something in the middle from everyone's versions.

[@Jason-si8iu]

Hogan was legit upset, he is a politician & tried spinning it to make himself look good

[@nickfanzo]

No

[@miamimagicians]

Hulk hogan, and Bill Goldberg definitely should’ve showed up at the final nitro in 2001. I feel like 2001 was the last really really incredible year of wrestling.

[@mattybserbia]

thats because you werent watching wrestling in 2001 and havent watched any since

[@miamimagicians]

@@mattybserbia I have always been a fan . I agree with you though there have been really really stand out moments like one night stand, etc.

[@keshoneelam3846]

The NWO in wwf in 2002 was big and could've been bigger if Vince McMahon didn't fush it down the toilet

[@nickcancelliere5638]

It was the end 8f area

[@coreyhall1150]

​@@miamimagiciansOne Night Stand was in 2005 you douche. Are u trolling or just trying to sound cool or something? Cause if it is the cool thing wrestling ain't the "Thing" that is gonna make u look cool lmfao idiot.

[@newspaperface]

"you put all the guys over" "I'll put your wife over" "I'll record it brother"

[@jamesmckeon9139]

“I just woke up to take a piziss”

[@mach1sports]

Hulk talkin Kayfabe is just gold. More respect for him than ever. He is the legit best

[@richardpierce4908]

Bischoff on "Dark Side Of The Ring" said that he and Hogan left the arena voluntarily and only found out about Russo's comments when they were on a plane going back home. Bischoff said they were celebrating the angle and how they pulled it off UNTIL they heard Russo. Between Russo, Hogan, and Bischoff, we will NEVER know the truth about what happened that night. I don't think Jarrett ever knew exactly what was going on.

[@jayjayson9613]

Wtf was the point of the angle to begin with? I always wondered what the initial plan was.

[@richardpierce4908]

@@jayjayson9613 I’ve wondered that myself. Everyone’s version of how it was supposed to go down was equally awful. It was a disastrous angle.

[@henrikschmidt3964]

This is interesting stuff, but it somewhat contradicts other stories Hulk have told. To no surprise.

[@DavidDexterMusic]

This is very interesting to hear

[@JayTheAdviceGuy]

This shows that Bischoff was lying when he said he and Hogan were already GONE by the time Russo went back out and had NO IDEA this happened until they started getting phone calls about it. According to Eric, the Jarrett spot was all planned and they were happy about the way it went down. The only thing they DIDN'T know about (even at the time) was Russo's rant afterward. So either he's lying, or Hogan is lying HERE.

[@TheBubbaArmy]

Exactly this was from hogan and less than 10 hours after the event

[@Rschr101]

Russo said they were out of the building too.

[@stevohavener3277]

Has Jim Cornette caught wind of this yet? Haha

[@Charsi_Escobar]

Cannot wait to hear his response to this 😂

[@johnjohnsilver]

I hope they start the podcast off with it

[@Rschr101]

Who?

[@mach1sports]

Jim Cornett. Great talker who overvalues his place in history

[@Charsi_Escobar]

@@mach1sports he’s regarded by many of his peers as one of the greatest wrestling managers of all time 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@willglenn-bl9gm]

Didn't even know Hogan put Kidman over just for them to do nothing from there

[@CarlosXPhone]

Sounded like Russo had other ideas.

[@willglenn-bl9gm]

@@CarlosXPhone Russo gets a lot of flack which is understandable but he was also a genius at times

[@CarlosXPhone]

@@willglenn-bl9gm Yeah, Russo had some gems and nuggets, but what I mean is, Hogan was probably doing it on the fly, without approval from Russo.

[@frankbarbera8562]

Hulk doesn’t do many interviews, I’d love to see him back on stone colds podcast to cover the second half of his career, wcw

[@bdot187um]

True, I wish this time they do it on the network where they can bring up events and matches and watch em together that would be great l

[@MannyPatino]

When Hogan left, WCW died

[@blakemccormick9612]

Every single person involved in this each has their own story about this and they are all radically different.

[@MichaelDoesLife]

It was an elaborate work just like Montreal

[@mach1sports]

Ya except hulk won a legal lawsuit on it so his side was truth. They had to all admit it

[@Ryan-hl4ur]

The only reason I flipped back & fourth as much as I did was the broads. wcw had Miss Hancock/Stacy Kiebler, Torrie Wilson, Madasia, Gorgeous George, & then they canned the Nitro Girlz, last straw.

[@markgabriel5797]

Bubba is sitting on a gold mine of stuff. Y'all just wait and see what he comes up with.

[@leelohaskin7941]

I bet he is

[@murraysaucedo897]

caca

[@McLeodclansman]

Another Hogan sex tape?

[@NightcapLover]

People knock Hulk, he's an easy target,it's such an easy target to slag him off,but Wrestling wouldn't be wrestling without him,he WAS wrestling, and people forget this,but I don't....Hulk has had so many surgeries,spinal surgeries, he's been through so much,with his health,his marriage split with Linda, and of course everything with his son, full respect to Hulk, he doesn't deserve the amount of shit that comes his way, he will always be a LEGEND.

[@vincesmith2499]

Hogan never really lost to Kidman, though. Eric Bischoff counted to three for Kidman on the Apr. 10, 2000 Nitro, but that wasn't an official match. Hogan beat Kidman in both of their PPV bouts. Even if Kidman had beaten Hogan, he still never would have become a main eventer though.

[@leesmith813]

True, but, as Hogan partially mentions, it look Horace Hogan, Bischoff as a special referee, weapons, and a blade job, for him to beat Kidman. That's ridiculous, considering the level of guys Hogan beat clean.

[@vincesmith2499]

@@leesmith813 Bischoff was on Kidman's side, so how did his being a special referee make it easier for Hogan?

[@leesmith813]

@@vincesmith2499 For memory, during Slamboree 2000, Bischoff as the special referee turned on Kidman and helped Hogan win.

[@vincesmith2499]

@@leesmith813 No. He did not. Bischoff was affiliated with the New Blood during his entire 2000 run. Hogan even memorably power bombed Bischoff through a table in that match.

[@leesmith813]

@@vincesmith2499 I apologize, you are correct.

[@jackwoods9604]

Good Show

[@NYCrazyRob]

LMAO why is Hogan talking like Kizarny?

[@GaryCantrell]

Don’t quizzzzzestion him brizzzzother!

[@CleveTime]

It would have been so epic for Billy Kidman to hit the shooting star press on Goldberg. He hooks the leg 1..2..3. Crowd hits the biggest pop the industry hasn't seen since the likes of Hogan Andre.

[@jackwoods9604]

Many Wrestling People Tell The Same Story About How Russo Was Good at Setting up a Match But Had No idea Where The Story Goes After The Match...Storylines are Most Important Aspect to Entertainment Wrestling...I Totally Believe Hogan Here

[@edutainme7265]

From 80s hero to this guy. I like this guy - instead of "Hollywood", wish he'd become Terry in his second act.

[@RueTV]

“I only get paid when I work” is a lie, he had a guaranteed contract. He missed out on ppv payoffs if he didn’t work a ppv, but he still “got paid” a lot of money.

[@txmade4371]

And? why you in that mans pockets?

[@bryanmack4054]

@@txmade4371 OP is just stating a fact that contradicts Hogans narrative….why do you have a problem with that?

[@joshf4492]

Just to play the devil's advocate here... Hogan was known to cover the terms in his contracts months before it was time to renegotiate. He would get paid per appearance once his contract dates were completed.

[@fuzzluvver69]

No. Hogan's contract had a guaranteed minimum based on a specific number of dates. But anything beyond those dates was then on a per appearance basis.

[@TheTenCentStory]

If this was even true he still received a percentage of the payperviews he worked. That's even more money.

[@PittsburghPenguin]

15:20 you know someone’s always in working mode when he talks in kayfabe to discuss taking a piss.