Humankind's 'Embodied Presence' in Today's World | Sculptor Antony Gormley

[@restispolitics]

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[@davidcoleman757]

This kind of interview is an antidote to our times. How utterly uplifting, inspiring and hopeful this talk was. Thank you.

[@MaudMargretheRex]

So true 🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@CheyenneUbaghs]

I didn’t know who Anthony Gormley was (although I did know some of his art). But I must say this interview was a breath of fresh air. His profound insights into the importance of art in our lives, in politics, and in shaping our collective humanity resonated deeply with me. Gormley's eloquence, devoid of any hesitations or filler words, was captivating as he articulated the profound impact of art on our psyche and self-determination. His impassioned plea for art to be an essential part of every child's curriculum struck a chord with me. Gormley's endorsement of Keir Starmer, not based on political allegiance but on character and empathy, was both refreshing and insightful. His trust in Starmer's understanding of working-class roots, his commitment to levelling up, and his appreciation for culture and art spoke volumes about the kind of leadership we need in these tumultuous times. This was probably the best endorsement for a politician I’ve heard in years. Gormley's perspective serves as a reminder of the power of authenticity and humanity in shaping our collective future. His words resonate deeply, offering hope and inspiration in equal measure. I loved every second of this and will probably listen to it again…I could hear him talk all day. Thank you Rory and Alastair for this wonderful moment of hope and intelligent empathy!

[@timdownunder]

So glad you brought this out on KZbin. We are not all podcast/earbud afficonados. To see you all interacting in the studio speaks louder than words.

[@fplyerbs5251]

I want to see both of them on the screen at the same time... Otherwise I won't accept they are different people 😂

[@rafaelmartinvannostrand2084]

When I saw the thumbnail I first thought was why is Alastair in the thumbnail but not Rory? And why is he wearing so casual?

[@MeridiemConsulting-zy7fm]

Wow - this has to be the best show to date. What an amazing guest and fascinating discussion

[@garycollins9734]

As somone who has always considered the arts a wastenof tax payers money. I found this interview facinating. I found myself closing my eyes for 3 minuets and completly changing my mind on the arts.

[@philtudor2399]

Thank you as requested for bringing in the voice of a creative/artist to your podcast. Both the arts and politics are about the betterment of man and society and we can all learn more by considering the input of other experts. I found this to be a brilliant and thought-provoking but life-affirming episode. Please TRIP keep innovating by bringing in voices from all spheres of modern life. Congratulations.

[@PeterGari]

All I, an old man who spends his days thinking and "wonder"ing, can say is "thank you" Antony, Alastair and Rory!

[@ladybird4015]

@PeterGari, As long as you think and wonder, you cannot be old.😊

[@JoeBaines-b3z]

I have no words to describe how good this was. I thought Sapolsky's interview was as good as it gets but this was on a different level. It even made me feel a bit emotional. I'm in awe. Thank you!

[@yvonnejrichards]

What a fantastic guy, absolutely LOVED this. As someone else said, an uplifting antidote to our times. Well done Alistair and Rory ❤❤

[@screwloose_productions]

What a dude and thank you so much guys for bringing him on the programme and please bring him back

[@sarahdey3191]

One of your best Rory and Alistair. I loved Anthony's definition of Brexit.

[@jimcorridan7245]

Absolutely Enthralling, Thankyou so much to the three of you❤

[@getinthevantim]

One of the best Leadings I have watched. Gormley is such a composed human. Bravo!

[@philnasmith9755]

I can assure you I was completely, 100% HERE for the entire, fascinating interview. Thank you for inviting this extraordinary man for an interview.

[@jaffaman99]

This was a lot better than I thought it would be, massive respect to Anthony. Thanks for doing that guys !

[@paulknight9260]

it is an extraordinary privilege to listen in on such an intelligent, informed and open conversation

[@Gerry-Hat-trick]

I've never knowingly watched or heard AG in my more than half a century. Quite to my embarrassment. Listening to his life story, and getting to understand his work and reasoning for such, was very interesting. Back to politics, his reaction to Brexit mirrored mine, apart from being so much more calmer than I am at times. Sad and angry sums it up. I also enjoyed his meditative few minutes, and the story behind that. Definitely something to read up on. Not generally a fan of still art (with a few exceptions), AG has encouraged me to take much more notice of his work especially, and that of others in general. Really enjoyable ❤

[@cassandra2249]

That was the kind of conversation that I needed to hear.

[@tornadoeye]

From the thumbnail I swear I thought Rory would be interviewing Alistair

[@johncooper5293]

Anthony is an incredible artist. I've been to Crosby and seen Angel of the North many times. What an incredible intellect.

[@lindaevans4402]

Loved, loved this episode.

[@markmasterson4811]

A Campbell and A Gormley appear to be twins separated at birth. Spooky.

[@ivydickson7596]

Was just thinking the same thing.

[@moirataylor9072]

Fascinating. Brexit the result of a lack of imagination - yes! Proportional representation needed- yes! Sculpture a feature of continuity with our past - yes! (Listen up statue desecrators). The child escaping imposed religion by a kind of infantile meditation - yes - survival, resistance! Art and culture one of our biggest assets in soft power - yes! Britain producing great ideas which are then developed and applied outside Britain - yes, sadly! One of your best interviews yet. If Starmer can save our society by injecting the value of art, culture and history back into the school curriculum there might be some hope. But sadly, many of our institutions have been overtaken by mindless philistinism and an obsession with DEI and its ramifications which stifle creativity and intellectual progress. If a political leader can solve that one we might have hope for progress but, alas, political leaders have their eyes on staying in power not long-term goals.

[@Mark1526374859]

You don’t know anything. Perhaps you could do a bit of research yourself and not just regurgitate the same old nonsense ignorant people say in the pub.

[@aaronbiggins4231]

What an excellent conversation. As a teacher I find myself arguing on the behalf of the arts all too often. It is heartening to hear an artist being listened to and engaged in political conversation. 🎉

[@richardpearce1114]

This was wonderful thank you so much. What a giant! And he gave me a reason to vote for Sir Bore Starmer, for which I will always be grateful. Because honestly, I wasn't even gonna get out of bed for the poverty of the Labour offer.

[@natalyadell5099]

Definitely one of the better Leadings, not at all predictable and genuinely very interesting.

[@JennyMatthew-ym3mx]

Fantastic interview with Anthony Gormley. Thankyou. JM

[@anneclements2473]

Hardly ever comment but this was outstanding. A good pick for an interviewee outside the usual parameters.

[@trevoryang4355]

Refreshing to hear someone who is so evidently inspired by his school experience

[@chrisgarden3285]

It has been a while since I have felt the need to write down what someone has said, but this was one of those times. “I don’t trust words as much as acts!” So true - especially in these times. I really didn’t know what to expect from this interview, but I got so much from it. Just excellent! 👏 👏 👏

[@maryguttel1014]

This artist is able to change our relationships with each other by the strength of his words as well as by his creativity. May his advocacy of art as a human necessity inspire our future leaders to promote art in the education of children.

[@monajuyaljugran4579]

Thank you for a thoroughly enjoyable interview with Anthony Gormley!

[@touchofsound]

DANKE for this beautiful inspired and inspiring conversation. I loved all of it but I was especially moved when near the end of the conversation Anthony was speaking while holding and sensing the objects in his hands. And it gave an extra sweetness that the objects were chosen by the wisdom of a (pokemon-loving 😊) child. And as an artist (musician) myself I love it when art in its seriousness and playfulness is put in the middle of life, education and politics and not just put aside as a pretty add-on for idle moments.

[@storm1968eu]

I went to his expo in Voorlinden near Den Haag (NL) in the summer of 2020 and it blew my mind ... his work is also much more than the human figure sculptures.

[@ThomasMcAulay]

I’m astounded to learn Rory is a Vipassana meditator and that Anthony met S N Goenka. What a fascinating interview!

[@ivydickson7596]

Me too, very interesting interview.

[@diggorybhoy]

Illuminating, informative and fascinating episode. I too am a Vipassana practitioner in the Goenka tradition. Rory really should take Alistair with him for a 10 day retreat. Knowing of Alistair's documented MH issues I feel (like me) the benefits for our own well-being of learning this practice are life changing and life enhancing. Get him organised Rory! Another cracking interview.

[@stephen_mcateer]

Fascinating. More like this please.

[@damian_smith]

Very interesting to hear an artist communicate their intent in such an engaging way. I'll seek out more of his work

[@markbolsover3145]

*what an extraordinary interview. thank you for this.

[@banjobear1666]

What a fabulous podcast - thoughtful & inspirational - thanks !

[@lindaezekiel6872]

Gentlemen congratulations that interview was a cracker! You had the full attention of my ears and eyes this Sunday morning as how could one understand the intepretation of pieces Rory had for Anthony to intepret which was trully fascinating. Would be great to interview more artists both local and international on the podcast say 2 to 4 in a year. All in all Gentlemen continue the good work.

[@kayleyedwards7141]

Really enjoyed this interview....could listen to him all day

[@philipmccready7090]

Wonderful discussion-thanks for exploring the deeper questions, meanings, and value of a human quest for leaving a mark.

[@lynneslates2136]

A lovely interview! Thanks so much for sharing.

[@paulgilliland2992]

Anthony Gormley is one of Britains greatest treasures.

[@alexm7310]

Ooo, excellent! Thought I'd missed this, but couldn't find it... 😊❤

[@davidcaldwell9272]

Much more of this - inspiring

[@tarajeyaratnam5825]

My introduction to this brilliant artist and person. Thank you for a most interesting and thought-provoking conversation. Gromley makes us feel, think and see the world in hopeful and inspiring ways. And yeah, I thought Gromley was Allistair at first glance. Talk about separated at birth!!!

[@PeterGari]

All I, an old man who spends his time thinking and "wonder"ing, can say is "thank you" Antony, Alistair, and Rory.

[@rosalindchurcher8028]

Loved listening to Anthony Gormley, so interesting.

[@tonybenson8303]

What an amazing discussion and bless you for sharing it. Love and radiant rainbow light to the world

[@grantwallace1882]

I love the Anthony Gormley statue on Plymouth sea front.

[@stephendaisley8645]

Wonderful man. There is hope....if we just listen to such people.

[@philipPatterson-w1t]

Great show lads, Politics & Art two of my favorite subjects, they both require imagination & effort to work.

[@labilabi678]

One of the most inspiring interviews I have seen in my adulthood and career life. Well done🙏

[@Joe90V]

My son is a sculptor in stone, inspired by Mr Gormley amongst others. I thoroughly enjoyed this episode and hope you'll invite more artists to the programme, perhaps Andy Goldsworthy.

[@nickyleach]

Yes!

[@nickcharnley19]

well done lads, we do have a creative thing. going on in these islands. there is hope. keep doing good things

[@maxpieper2392]

This was awesome. What an inspiring gentleman..!

[@jacquipettitt3389]

What a fabulous episode. I thoroughly enjoyed this conversation between you all. Alistair and Anthony could certainly be brothers.

[@stellatownson2737]

First, I listened in the podcast until the end Alester told about the funny incident in Camden Lock. I thought I needed to watch it. No regret! To see their expressions, mediation, artwork, explanation. Fab! Thank you, The Rest Is Politics Team.

[@FireflyOnTheMoon]

The best so far. More artists please

[@susantankel6946]

Absolutely fascinating and fabulous

[@woofla123]

I’m the same age as him and my dad took me round those museums at the same age. I loved them, there wasn’t the options at home Rory mentioned.

[@kevinstatham9242]

Wow possibly the most interesting person I’ve ever listened to. Loved his views about politics.

[@markbiddlecombe6023]

I found this fascinating and very enjoyable to listen to.

[@dalebates9817]

He chose well for the work he could take with him. I saw that once in a sculpture park in Yorkshire but I didn't get the feeling it was my ancestors looking back at me. Instead I felt very empowered with a captive mass audience all looking up at me. To be honest, I felt a bit like Hitler, Stalin, Liz Truss, or one of those mad fellas. Either way, remarkable feeling and incredibly effective piece of art.

[@sama3033]

I could do with more like this. Fabulous interview, especially Anthony's view on the intersection of art and politics. I'd love to see more activism in art. Artists are invariably intelligent people whose views are every bit as valid as our current vapid political class.

[@AlexPReal]

Exceptional, touching, uplifting and excellent food for thought. Thank you SO much.

[@rasbharathan8200]

Fascinating man, great interview. Really enjoyed listening to his perspective on 'life'

[@chrisriddles9460]

A wonderful, interesting and insightful interview with Antony Gormley. Although much of his work is in the outdoors environment his work captured within buildings are incredibly inspiring. It didn't sound from his question that either of you went to his RA exhibition but that was mind blowingly good. On the weakness of culture secretaries I totally agree. A group of artists I am involved with put on a major exhibition with 40 professional artists and makers, it took 3 days to put up and mount and label and display. We invited our local MP to come who at the time was the culture minister. It took place over a weekend. She came on the Saturday and looked around and then asked if the exhibition on the next day, Sunday, would be the same exhibition. She is now in the house of Lords.

[@robbielad]

Brilliant, loved it. Thank you both 💓

[@haydnpayne]

Don't worry Mr Gormley, that was a great podcast! Cracking job all round

[@jillovens3141]

Fabulous show 👍

[@MichaelSpencePhilippines]

Not the usual fare but still enjoyable. In some ways more so to hear such honesty & real passion. Great stuff.

[@MC-vr3yh]

Brilliant show. I loved the ending Alastair 😂 so funny!

[@eibhlinni3598]

Best one yet guys

[@rosscrichton8584]

An excellent interview. Thanks gents.

[@renxxxxx]

Awesome, great work gentlemen keep up the listening

[@handbyl]

All round brilliant - this one soared on the winds....

[@marilynchivers4730]

Very interesting man. Good call. 🎉

[@elainewatson905]

LOVED IT!

[@margaretsaleeby9531]

Absolutely loved this podcast…especially the emphasis on the knowledge that we humans need to feel our embodied presence in the world rather than totally focus on the more cerebral realm of reason and the use of models we’ve designed to represent the life of the mind. And I could easily see how the latter has unfortunately become the core of today’s politics and therefore has made it so difficult for so many to “experience” politics as necessarily essential to the existence in which they are grounded. Prompts me to think of Iain McGilchrist’s grasp of how politics has been captured by the left cerebral hemisphere which is primarily focused on manipulating the world of conceptual thinking and its models of everything versus the right cerebral hemisphere’s understanding of the need to ground ideas/concepts in their embodied context.

[@davewilkins9981]

Brilliant ! Thanks

[@dianapatterson1559]

How amusing: Alistair pulled a JK Rowling: 'enervated' means to lack energy, not to become excited. I had a large smile thinking of Gormley collapsing into a heap at the mention of politics.

[@kulhaus]

Great interview! More like this one!

[@thehappyhound770]

❤❤❤Loved this interview!

[@TonyTsobanis]

The problems with the costs of NHS cannot be solved by fiddling around the edges, only an increase in wealth specific taxes will ever address the shortfall. Equally, AI is coming, and justified or not, every company that can will offload staff to increase their profits. In effect, shifting the burden to the state while the execs, owners, shareholders pocket the benefit yet again. Why not put laws in place that mean any company offloading staff due to AI needs to pay a higher tax for 2-3 years to cover the costs on the state while that person retrains.

[@dsjwhite]

Loved it, thank you

[@dharmacharinipasadanandi7110]

Loved this, thanks guys.

[@manreay6769]

I loved this interview absolutely brilliant .

[@guntersuchen4656]

Amazing interview, genuinely interesting

[@GaryDoyle-bq2vd]

Excellent episode.

[@CloudhoundCoUk]

Great presentation. A man who defended people on death row for free has integrity. Keir will make a great prime minister.

[@TheKipperedOne]

What a fantastically interesting man.

[@CheppinoCity]

Great interview! I honestly thought it's Alastair on the thumbnail :D

[@suederekfitz-gibbon7188]

Utterly fascinating!

[@jongill7]

Thank you for a brilliant afternoon. That was the best quick demo of Vipassana meditation technique that Id seen outside of a Vipassana retreat.

[@MaudMargretheRex]

28:42 so so true.. making sense

[@kevinmcarthur1690]

Brilliant enjoyed listening to him