Humans Used Boats to Reach Remote Islands 200,000 Years Ago | Ancient Mysteries

[@Coyot0xx0]

Neanderthals who were able to make a glue out of a tree sap,or craft a flute tuned to a pentaton accord those tasks tend to be a tenacious and complicated process even today could possibly build relatively complicated structures such as boats and roofed huts in my opinion.

[@serendipityculture1679]

Neanderthals were superior, and invented, whereas humans just work in groups on whats made already by Neanderthals and Autism!

[@3rdeye671]

And they dived for mussels and oysters off the coast.

[@3rdeye671]

The tools found on Crete were Neandertal culture.

[@jenniferharrison8915]

Aboriginal Australians were not able to make anything but a small fire, wooden spears, and a basic bark roof with a stick to hold it up out of the rain!

[@charleskelly1887]

A culture that depended on shoreline resources might look longingly at a small island a mile or so offshore, where there were huge supplies of food, and devise a means to get there. This would lead to a feedback effect in which maritime ability contributed to good living.

[@HighlyCompelling]

Even children know how to make a raft from a log, so it would have probably occured to ancient humans too

[@nobody8328]

When you live near water, you see wood floating in it all the time, and it's not uncommon to see various critters along for the ride. I agree that any land they could see would have been absolutely irresistible, but it also could have been as simple as wondering where the seagulls were going. And you know humans- after something has been done once, everyone wants turn!

[@MarkVrem]

If you can see something in distance, then it is probably 3-4 miles. You can swim to that.

[@thomsen256]

@@MarkVrem Theres evidence that boats were also used in prehistoric SE Asia and Sahul(Australia)

[@dannyboywhaa3146]

@@annoyeduk Sahul is the name geographers give to the ancient continent that once existed linking Australia to Indonesia when sea levels were much higher - I believe Sahul was last above sea level around 40,000 years ago. 👍

[@stevenmitchell6347]

During the Ice Ages, the "Mediterranean" was a large system of rivers, lakes and valleys because the water level was 500' or more lower. Travel from Africa to Europe and Asia was much easier as the climate was also wetter and milder with plenty of plants and animals. Humans are habitual travelers and have been migrating since the homo genus arose.

[@billkallas1762]

Nice try, but the Strait of Gibraltar are almost 3,000 feet deep. You are thinking about the Messinian salinity crisis, that happened 5 to 6 million years ago.

[@sandybarbee8401]

Back the Truck UP ! SO !!! During The ICE AGE , DURING "T H E I C E A G E" , Conditions were MILDER and WETTER ?!?!?!?!?!?

[@OldeJanner]

And yet Africans have never gone further than coastal day fishing journeys. I'm not convinced that we really are related that closely.

[@mrbaab5932]

​@@billkallas1762 Correct, but look at the sea depth east of Gibraltar. It is less than 300 feet. There are many videos about the Mediterranean being much smaller and cut off from the Atlantic Ocean.

[@mrbaab5932]

I really think this and other videos that show modern maps when talking about some time during the Ice Age should show a map with the lower sea levels and exposed land.

[@davidbamford4721]

The Australian aborigines, who are partly Denisovans, crossed a deep trench between Sumatra and Bali by boat, at least 60,000 years ago.

[@jenniferharrison8915]

That is not factually true! The first boats Aboriginals ever saw were brought by visiting Zambians who gifted them a bark fishing boat and showed them how to make their own! Aboriginals WALKED to Australia from Indonesia, a maximum of 45,000 years ago, (after the time of the birth of New Guinea) through New Guinea to simply graze the land! They had NO knowledge of sea travel, tools, or concept of community or language! They have bred with other races many times since entering Australia too!

[@kenjiwebb1509]

We need to do a lot more underwater archeology.

[@rishishah6810]

Criminally low subscriptions on this amazing channel... keep up the great content 👏 👌🏽

[@HighlyCompelling]

Much appreciated!

[@KatoOnTheTrack1]

Facts

[@Jamie-cc2bo]

Don't worry about what everybody else is thinking just enjoy it for yourself .

[@stefanodellepiane7451]

Thanks! Excellent presentation, great channel, always bringing new thoughts and challenges. 200000 years and already in Europe, this is quite a revolution for the classic theories. The most stunning are the findings in Crete, being an island for so long and the skulls of Apidima cave (Απήδημα).Thanks a lot again for putting these puzzles together! Small note: maybe you could change your pronunciation of Apidima (Apeedeema)? So the 2 i are pronounced the same.

[@e-curb]

The narrator isn't a real person.

[@HighlyCompelling]

What kind of boats do you think ancient mariners used? Log rafts, dugout canoes, or boats made of reeds? Back in ancient times there would have been no shortage of huge driftwood logs that would have made nice boats.

[@totwallybaba]

If they can build a boat, then they could build a shelter of equal quality and skill....as in houses or temples.

[@HighlyCompelling]

@@totwallybaba A boat is basically the same as a shelter. Sturdy and watertight.

[@TheLionFarm]

@@HighlyCompelling that's right many be a moving stock pile of some type

[@gabrielgarcia7529]

Aquatic ape duh lol but i honestly think drifting on logs was a skill

[@dreddykrugernew]

I think the most under looked region for anything going back beyond written history is Spain, just looking at some properties and land online out there, the rock features i bet there are numerous caves in Spain waiting to be discovered id love to go hunting out there, its a huge country and just the other week a load of ancient stones where discovered as someone was going to buy an orchard, i swear that land is gonna give some answers about some things...

[@RM-yf2lu]

Well unless aliens teleported Australians to South America, there aren't many other options to account for their ydna there...ancient humans were much more industrious than modern academia makes them out to be

[@eardwulf785]

Proto Neanderthals in the area 200,000 years ago would have encountered an extremely shallow Mediterranean with multiple land bridges and hundreds of isles. Maybe they rolled up their sloth skin trousers and paddled?

[@Jvld98]

Love this! It is the height of arrogance to think we are the most capable and most technically advanced that man has ever been. If modern humans, and that means people like us, with the same level,of curiosity and ingenuity have been around for about 200,000 years, there had to have been many, many advanced civilizations before Gobekli Tepe, dated to 11,000+ years. That leaves About 180,000 years of human history to discover!

[@umwha]

We currently don’t have any evidence of anything like that, beyond this assumption based on the amount of time anatomically modern humans have existed and our expectations of the amount of progress we think they could have reached.

[@stephG36]

I’m with YOU!! All that time and we were just living in caves - ya right - early archeologist had such presumed ideas thank god modern studies are busting through that dogma

[@Jagdtyger2A]

I don't know why Anthropologists find it hard to imagine that primitive stone age humanoids could make boats. Just look at the canoes made by Native American Indians from the Pacific Northwest of the North American Continent. Those people regularly built 60-90' Cedar, Douglas Fir and Redwood ocean going canoes with only stone, bone, shell and wooden tools, which were fully capable of reaching the Amur River thousands of years ago. In fact, in 1910 a crew took a 60' Tlingit canoe 3/4 the way around the world until they ran out of funding in New York city

[@SharonSnow-k1q]

I sometimes get the feeling that unless someone confirms the first seafarers from hundreds of thousands of years ago were white, we'll keep hearing that boats weren't built till modern humans came along. How long shall we wait for common sense?

[@AztlanOz]

Probably early homo sapiens were an aquatic based species living around coastlines living off sea life & coastal plants, it makes sense our species developed floating crafts to move around for fishing & storing catch early

[@DDeden]

Aquatic? No, terrestrial, but living near open water.

[@eardwulf785]

You been watching too much The Man From Atlantis

[@benyahudadavidl]

Perhaps you are unaware that Black people are the only ones homo sapiens sapiens, this is because nonBlack people have only been on the planet for six to ten thousand years and have no known origin according to science. See DNA science and David Reich on KZbin. The fact that nonhumans presume to tell Black people when we got here and how we got here is pathological at best. Go find your own story. B1

[@eardwulf785]

@@benyahudadavidl Iz it coz az black? 🤣

[@willempasterkamp862]

. . . or the mediteranian was almost dry land where people could walk ? With some salt-lakes on the deeper parts only. When the bosporus wall crumbled, water from the black-sea started to seep in slowly filling the basin. And so forcing the people to develop sea-fahring skills to stay connected, an the other way around story ? Ultimately the gibraltar wall also collapsed (the atlantis-event) causing floodings and sea level rise. The land-barrier with the red sea still intact only connected through the man-made suez canal. It is believed that over history the mediterranian dried up several times making migration possible, not only for humans but animals as well. Rhino's and hippo's once lived in europe, they didn't come there by boat. There must have been some land connection thus a weak point in your theory.

[@NeptunesLagoon]

the Blak sea didnt fill the Mediterranian, with fresh water, it went the other way...

[@willempasterkamp862]

@@NeptunesLagoon not sure, at the end of icy era's sea-levels rose and set pressure on the barriers (both gibralter and bosporus). hard to say which one bursted first.

[@kennedy6971]

I believe all of the different hominids were smarter then we give them credit for. In regards to human migration i think anywhere they had access to the sea they sailed (or paddled ). Take a week off work and try to build a wooden float tied together with leather and dowls. How far do u think you could get? They were smart and they were always in search of new lands with a new bounty of resources. Consider how far hawaii is from new zealand. They paddled that far..

[@JJ-fq4nl]

Polynesians had sails & used the wind & currents. Excelled in navigation by the stars. They did not paddle hundreds of miles.

[@umwha]

@@JJ-fq4nl Hawaii was only peopled in 1000AD - 1200Ad. Meaning people have only lived there for under 1000 years. Therefore, this has no relevance to a discussion on ancient prehistoric sea travel.

[@mrbaab5932]

​@@umwha Some scientists think it has only been 500 years. The Olmecs of Mexico has a compus, but it did not spread until the Chinese reinvented it around 500 years ago.

[@katipohl2431]

That's really exciting. Thanks for the information!

[@HighlyCompelling]

You bet!

[@davidbamford4721]

The Australian aborigines, who are partly Denisovans, crossed a deep trench between Sumatra and Bali by boat, at least 60,000 years ago. They were essentially a stone age culture when invaded by Europeans.

[@billkallas1762]

It wasn't that large a distance. They could do it in two jumps. 4 miles to one island, and the 6 miles to another. It would be easier to island hop to New Guinea, and then a few 10 and 20 mile jumps to Australia.

[@Thekowaikaiju]

Wish you would add real subtitles to these wonderful videos. I unfortonatley cannot watch with sound a lot of days.

[@CwL-1984]

Cool 👍👍

[@Nikke283]

So I have liked it yesterday but I hadn`t had the time to look through it. I just wanted to say thank you for your content. Today I discussed the evolution of man with my mom who actually had no Idea about Homo errectus. It helped me much to give her relevant information about it and of denisovan :))) (The discussion started because my mom had no clue who Svante Pääbo is. Wondering about the nobel price...)

[@totwallybaba]

Another great presentation from your channel. Your "asides" are well done. I'm still laughing at the last video's aside about adopting local customs.

[@HighlyCompelling]

Thank you very much!

[@susanlegeza7562]

Amazing!

[@HighlyCompelling]

Thanks!

[@Albemarle7]

We keep underestimating early man.

[@st.george007]

Human like footprints 6.05 million years old found on Crete at Trachilos. I plan to visit there soon.

[@oldschool1993]

130,000 years ago we were in an ice age, and sea levels were 450 feet lower, meaning people could have walked to Crete and Greece.

[@joeshmoe8345]

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[@leeloxleigh1471]

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[@HighlyCompelling]

Welcome aboard!

[@eacalvert]

Finally get to watch been waiting all day!!!!

[@larshenrikfabrin7640]

Very interesting!

[@urbnctrl]

How is this still even a question when our people have inhabited the Pacific and SE Asian Islands above Australia for over 200.000 years!? It is akward to try and eurocentrize this story now, when the evidence has been ignored in academia for decades.. The agenda becomes obvious when most people don't even know about the ancient advancement of the Indian Ocean sea trade that has been part of a precolonial 1000s year old world trade network linking the African nations to the Asian and the Pacific nations, ultimately even the Americas. The mediterranean sea was not that big of a conquest for these humans due to the lower sea levels compared to the Ocean seas of SE Asia and the Pacific. Even this footage uses the ancient Oceanian outrigger ship with the crabclaw sail as example footage..

[@WOTHAN66666]

our waterways are HIGHWAYS and Always been that.

[@alexbowman7582]

Sea people know that if you release a bird and it doesn’t return then it found land. It’s possible to see far away land from the reflection of green in the sky.

[@e-curb]

There aren't any reflections in the sky. In the video the distances from neighbouring islands is shown to be less than about 35 miles. That means Crete can be seen from any hilltop.

[@kubhlaikhan2015]

It's been obvious for decades that ancient humans must hve sailed. Why do we constantly misrepresent them as sub-human monkey-men? But I'm also sure that sailing didn't have to wait for homo sapiens. How did Homo Erectus reach the scattered islands of Indonesia - many separated by deep straits that have never been dry land? Spreading around the world is a lot easier using coastlines and rivers. That is true in recent history (since the end of the ice age) but it was no less true a million years ago. We have lost so much of our history and our modern conceits are causing us to lose even more.

[@doubleslit9513]

Another “W” in the WIN column for Graham Hancock. You gotta love a guy with a passion taking on “scientific” dogma and winning 🏅.

[@drjohntas]

nice

[@cadenturnley5772]

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[@dianemartinis2801]

Excellent info. Thanks

[@WOTHAN66666]

The Cro Magnon culture WAS a boat culture Im 100% sure of it... And got some sites to dig for there's boats too...There is only like 4 diff sites where they can have left evidence for em.

[@joebidet2050]

Thumbnail shows a black woman FYI Madagascar is right off Africa and Thousands of km expense Indian ocean lies Indonesia where the first Malagasy came from Sub saharans didn't arrive until much later

[@NeptunesLagoon]

yes, blax never went out of africa, so its a shill... smh sure the non related dark races went out like Aborigines... smh

[@Iknowknow112]

When he states that no other species besides Homo Sapiens have thrived outside of their original environment that can't be true. Aside from the fact that earlier species of hominids like Homo Erectus already had there were also felines, canines, bears , whales/ dolphins, rhinos, elephants and even dinosaurs which thrived in diverse environments from tropical to arctic, forest to mountains. Possibly 100s if not 1000s of other species have successfully made such transitions.

[@NeptunesLagoon]

but never blak people..? who is Asselar man? and the Egyptians were blue eyed caucasians, from the pre dynastic... h. sapiens dates to over 315,000bc ( Jebel Irhoud) but what does Asselar man say.... and show..? Iwo Illeru was a small brained still extant h. erectus form.... admixed into modernity, but by whom..? E1b1 carriers... Oops

[@mrgeno4682]

Looking at the world map. There is no way that people didn't use boats and rafts. Things always get rewritten as more is learned. This will come to be truth one day soon.

[@billstream1974]

Considering humans melanin changes over short periods of time it is pretty ignorant to believe that they were black.

[@johndavis6119]

I would say kinship kept us in Africa as long as it did. We are social animals but have always been closest to family.

[@klikklakis]

Lack of evidence is not evidence of lack. I was under the understanding that the Mediterranean basin was not flooded until about 12,000 years ago. Prior to that it was a series of salt water lakes feed by many rivers and the evaporation was able to maintain this situation for at least 100,000 years transportation by boat would not have been necessary if not longer. Until the Mediterranean Sea level drops 100 metres or more, the truth will not be know. All possibilities are still open. In your presentation you said many times "scientists believe" leaves the field wide open to any number of realities. We won't know who Neanderthals and modern humans really are until DNA can be extracted for Homo Erectus et al. Another point can be made for the use of boats by modern stone age peoples from many areas outside Europe. There is no reason to believe that their technologies were not 100,000 years old or older as wood usually does not survive that long.

[@HighlyCompelling]

Possibly the strait between Sicily-Italy-Africa was blocked at some point but Crete was never connected to mainland

[@warrenbooth2103]

Sea levels would have been a lot lower than present day

[@robertoaguiar6230]

7:35 30mi is enough to be done swimming, today we have people who swim the dover channel for sport, early humans could definantly do that for migration. They were used to migrate weeks over deserts and savanas with wild predators following, let alone enemy groups. By swimming for a day they could reach an island where all predators were smaller and fruit trees were untouched. They could carry their items in hollow logs and use them as floatation devices, plus this could inspire them to hollow logs with fire and create canoos later on.

[@e-curb]

I highly doubt early humans could swim.

[@rursus8354]

2:07: _"Across the strait of Gibraltar to Spain"_ - that's not the strait of Gibraltar, _"or from Libya to Crete"_ - not that either! The picture represents Madagascar and the Southern part of Africa.

[@HighlyCompelling]

The editor has been reprimanded

[@judd0112]

That’s not what the shot of Africa was trying to show just happened to be that spot by Madagascar then rotated north to the Gibraltar part and Mediterranean. Didn’t know this was being graded

[@Grant918Tulsa]

I think this sedimentary layers would be different on an island because the amount of dirt wouldn't cover everything since it's running by water.

[@johnround8311]

What if not all humans came out of Africa?

[@michaelterry3885]

I'm starting to have, doubts about the out of Africa theory.... At least in aggregate, to many holes in the theory over the last twenty or so years have developed... I was once convinced... Now my confidence is waning a bit.?..

[@garycollier6950]

Scientists from India and China both admits that there first inhabitants came from Africa.Out of Africa is still going strong. Only racist people can't accept that fact.

[@michaelterry3885]

@@garycollier6950 Scientists from India and China both admit. That without any evidence that someone is "racist" only undeniably degenerate morons, whom know little to nothing about science, would make such assertions about "racist" that you just did..! For example, without knowing a single thing about an individuals" mind , race , heritage, nationality, or their values....personal, religious, moral, ethical or otherwise. You have made an inexplicable , assertion and accusation of racism....in fact , it only highlights, your own ignorance and bigotry. Not anyone else's. Because in science, in order to make such claims or assertions, one is required to produce evidence of such claims and assertions. Evidence. The very fact that one should have questions and or doubts about any particular "THEORY"does not meet the standard or qualify as any such evidence. Especially considering that questioning ANY particular scientific theory, is, at least, in part, the scientific method in action. In the future, try to keep in mind, and remember. Seeking truth, knowledge and understanding requires questions, to be asked sometimes hard questions, sometimes easy questions. Even ones, we think we already know the answers to....and sometimes ... especially,... uncomfortable questions. Have a nice life..✌

[@alkebulanlion6198]

Oldest dna out of any humans are the Sam people and hadza and Pygmy who are African people that is for certain I know Africa is the cradle cause of this.

[@mefobills279]

@@alkebulanlion6198 The out of Africa theory requires religious fervor.

[@alkebulanlion6198]

@@mefobills279 it’s science and it’s facts. The oldest dna are the san and the hadza

[@camerongill70]

More on Gibraltar pls.

[@Jagdtyger2A]

This is a great video that helps prove my contention that the Americas were first reached and settled by sra faring hominids. How else could there be evidence of human presence in North America 130,000 years ago and S America 48,000 years ago when the Corderilla and Laurentide ice sheets blocked the wat

[@e-curb]

What makes you think humans were in N. America 130k years ago? The current accepted date of the earliest humans is about 13,500-15,000 years ago.

[@Jagdtyger2A]

@@e-curb Well there are 20,000 year old hominid foot prints found in White Sands New Mexico. There are 45,000 year old camp fires in South America and 130,000 year old butchery sites in California where Mastodons were processed using stone tools. So, unless you accept that there was some non-human intelligent species carving up elephant relatives for dinner it had to be humans

[@e-curb]

@@Jagdtyger2A Until bones of humans that old are found, it's just conjecture.

[@leechild4655]

It may be some were driven out of Africa for a number of reasons. Mainly though it had to do with a reliable food source not subject to fire flood or over-hunted lands and fighting others over areas all the time.

[@frankedgar6694]

200,000 years ago? Why, why, why do we insist on making our ancestors from Asia come here by walking? Why could not European ancestors have come along the coasts and ice sheets using boats to America?

[@esioanniannaho5939]

I have heard of even monkeys using crafts to cross rivers in Africa. So why not hominids ?

[@garycollier6950]

African monkeys made transatlantic voyages to Central and South America 35 million years ago.

[@rickaguilar1833]

My history professor told us that the Mediterranean was so calm at times that you coul cross it in a bath tub!

[@alanschaub147]

Or maybe humans did not disperse out of Africa and our history goes back much further than what popular science asserts? 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@TheLionFarm]

Eurasian origins

[@alanschaub147]

@@TheLionFarm Exactly. Maybe moderns humans went *in* to Africa and interbred with other hominins. Modern West African populations show clear genetic evidence of having interbed with a “ghost species” for which which we have not yet discovered fossil evidence.

[@waltonsmith7210]

There has to be enough evidence accumulated first. Its not like the Out of Africa theory was totally arbitrary. A Eurasian origin is certainly a fascinating idea.

[@sedwillful]

hating Africa seems to an inherited trait.

[@grady1881]

Interesting theories but through genetic analysis the out of Africa theory has been disproven for quite some time.

[@NeptunesLagoon]

yes it has... but the false narrative that they pander... smh

[@clamsoup]

I feel like some Beach Boys music would be appropriate. Someone caught a wave, got around, and are sitting on top of the world.

[@dannybrown5744]

Nobody seems to think about river crossings, it is not an easy thing to do, with children grandma and George with the gimpy leg. If your coming from N Africa toward the Levant.. that Nile river is huge!!!!!

[@willempasterkamp862]

you mean the suez-canal, right ?

[@dannybrown5744]

@@willempasterkamp862 any river...have you ever looked across the Mississippi?

[@e-curb]

@@willempasterkamp862 The Suez canal didn't exist back then.

[@willempasterkamp862]

@@e-curb If you come walking from Ethiopia along the east-bank, Nile isn't a real barrier to cross to enter Asia. Any open water between africa and asia would have. The man-made channel didn't exist then, but the 'opening' closened and opened a couple of times over history naturally. With the 3 entrances or gates closed together, that would allow the 'medi ' to dry up partially, resulting in landbridges to europe. What explains how dwarf-elephants species once lived on sicily island for instance.

[@dominictarrsailing]

why would someone believe that sea travel started in the bronze age when there are so many non-bronze cultures around the world that had sea travel without bronze? (or any metal)

[@WOTHAN66666]

This urley Seapeople is where HSS come from. they was a culture stand alone.

[@bella42291]

I don't understand, the Hawaiians sailed to Hawaii in their stone age and that's 3500 miles. I would say that opens the possibility for sea travel for about anyone.

[@j.f.fisher5318]

If humans achieved such complex boats so long ago, and humans migrating into the Americas developed agriculture within a few thousand years of reaching any given area suitable for agriculture, it seems preposterous that the first agriculture developed only after the most recent ice age, and some kind of relatively advanced civilizations would have surely developed from that.

[@NeptunesLagoon]

was the supposed Ark the 1st boat..? Nope...

[@williamoverton7775]

I believe that humans were mariners before this species existed.

[@visionentertainment8006]

More than 200,000 years.

[@saimaberrii]

Homo erectus used boats didn't they? They went all over south asia

[@dennis17116]

Neanderthal were the first to use floating object to cross over vast waters. There remains were found all around the continents.

[@dangregory8321]

And the Second Oldest Boat was found in AFRICA in the Border of Nigeria and Chad which were Homo sapiens.

[@damiensteiner9919]

Evolution is a solid theory. Homo Florensis bothers me though. However given the ingenuity of us sapiens it would seem practical for Florensis to seek opportunity afar. Boggles my mind they took on the Pacific ocean

[@Malpriorvids]

When Europeans investigated true African civilisations around 500 years ago, we found very little farming, single storey mud dwellings, and almost no industry or technology. Maybe the Out Of Africa theory is wrong, and instead should be called the Into Africa theory, where Neanderthals and Denisovans visited Africa and brought early humans to Eurasia.

[@gblack6777]

"Maybe the Out Of Africa theory is wrong, and instead should be called the Into Africa theory" you must be on those vapors!

[@Malpriorvids]

@@gblack6777 so your argument is that I’m on vapours? That sounds very scientific dude.

[@gblack6777]

@@Malpriorvids OK what about this respond- There is no scientific evidence Of any other race of man Starting the human race In other words-We the people of African decent are the parents of the human race and all other race of men & women are our Genetic children - You're welcome

[@Malpriorvids]

@@gblack6777 lol. BLM eh?

[@Malpriorvids]

@@gblack6777 can I have that in English please?

[@songsnewsmienskipbyarendar9064]

I wonder how one can rule out the possibilty early humans reached Crete over sea-ice. Seems perfectly possible to me & means: no need for boats to reach Crete. Please note Crete is the only example mentioned of reaching an island long, long before we saw humans reaching islands on much and many locations. (Only very old example mentioned in this video that is)

[@e-curb]

That's a very interesting possibility. I bet the experts have never considered ice. Although, I doubt there was ice that far south. The maps I've seen show ice as far south as Germany and part of northern France.

[@songsnewsmienskipbyarendar9064]

@@e-curb A response after two months, wow :). If the climate is such that every 5 to 10 years the sea freezes over in between the mainland and the islands relative close to the coast, then this is more then enough for humans to give it a go and see what's out there - most of all when they are starving..... So you don't need a cold climate - a moderate climate also generates a frozen sea up to 10/40 kms at times... Not many times, but sometimes

[@e-curb]

@@songsnewsmienskipbyarendar9064 I think the Mediterranean is just too far south. Even in the coldest ice age, I doubt there was ever ice there.

[@arthurmosel808]

The point is what was the water level then. Around 17,000 years ago much of the Mediterranean was actually dry land. You have to consider geography in the past not just bones and camp sites.

[@NeptunesLagoon]

and at the date in question: were we at a low Ice point, or a high point like 150,000-200,000bc...?

[@arthurmosel808]

@@NeptunesLagoon Please check your data, sea level was around 400 feet lower about 17,000 years ago. There was still extensive glacierization at that point. The ice and land bridge from Siberia to Alaska existed at least at the beginning of this time. I do agree that further back there was even more ice in some past periods; however the Earth has cycled between hot and cold throughout eons. Check out the three orbital cycles, one of which has the Earth in an extremely elliptical orbit somewhere around every 100,000 years. There was a cartoon around in the 70's when the fear was of a new ice age; it featured an ant on a leaf floating down a river demanding the drawbridge be raised. Mankind believing that it can change/control the climate is equivalent to that ant's belief that the drawbridge needed to be raised for him. The climate will change whether we want it to or not. We have yet to identify all the causes of climate change; that is why none of the models have accurately predicted climate changes. I remember hearing Al Gore confidently predict all Arctic Ice would be gone a decade ago. I saw the satellite pictures of Arctic ice covered with dust from explosions used by Russia rerouting rivers to run to the north coast of Siberia trying to allow Siberia to warm. That dust actually allowed more melting of the ice;. Yes man can affect climate, however, the same ice melt disrupts the Gulf Stream that warms the North American Continent and Northern Europe and in around 500 years finally affects the Southern Hemisphere since the Gulf Stream is part of a world wide ocean system that is estimated to take 1,000 years for a complete cycle. Remember that around 1,000 AD or CE (they both use the same start point) Greenland 's coast included arable land well up is west coast. The Little Ice Age ended that, now that land is emerging again; the Little Ice Age ended in the the first decades of the 1800's (lets use around 1820). If a roughly 1000 yea r cycle is involved, we should be looking at being near the peak of the warming cycle. Just an aside geologists taking core samples inthe Great Plains found a decades long drought around every 500 year; this was verified by tree ring samples. That drought occurred near the point of the Little Ice Ages beginning. Instead of wasting time and money trying to prevent climate change, that effort needs to go into 0lznning to survive it.

[@timbuzick8778]

of that was the case wouldn't everyone be african js

[@gar6446]

It wasn't west Africans. East and North Africans could cross into Arabia easily with rudimentary boats, rivers were the super highways of the time.

[@NeptunesLagoon]

look up Asselar man for some reality... 4,400bc

[@Jamie-cc2bo]

Interesting how these caveman type of people that you're showing looked identical to the people that I see everyday at my local shopping centre in Australia

[@wilhelmmeyer89]

It's a very strange idea or theory that modern humans evolved solely in Africa and then started to spread. This idea is built on the assumption that the gene pool in Africa was diverse enough to ensure enough silience and enough capabilities for spreading all over Europe and Asia. It is much more reasonable that there was intermixing going on with other species migrating from Eurpoe and Asia to Africa and from Africa to Asia and Europe in waves. The more diverse gene pool would have resulted in better better resilience and more capabilities in the following generations. There is the issue of climate. Why should humans even leave the African shores of teh Mediterranean Sea and go north. They would not have do it, when the climate was to harsh in the north. So they went east wherever there was enough food. A few days ago I watch a video about some uprght walking apes in Europe some hunrded thousand years ago. This raises another question. How come human evolution main took place in Africa? Why not simply admitting other possibilities like this: Apes spread in Africa, Europe and Asia where there was enough food and acceptable climate. In every region the apes evolved to species that were more adapted to the region and in the same time the apes migrated due to curiosity, search for food, search for shelter or escaping cahnging climate. When migrating they met other ape clans and intermixing happened. So the gene pools mixed and properties and capabilities spread among the entire population in the region and one small step in evolution was done. Suggestion: Search for remains of ancestors in ALL regions with acceptable climate for apes and humans and not just in Africa. And there is India. India is a small piece of the world and it has several regions regarding climate. The is tropical climate in the south and there is climate close to arctic climate in the Himalayas and there are deserts. In India, evolution was able to take place more quickly than in other regions of the world because the migration routes were shorter, migration was therefore faster and in result gene pool intermixing was faster. Suggestion: Dig in India and dig really deep.

[@gblack6777]

"there was intermixing going on with other species migrating from Europe and Asia to Africa and from Africa to Asia and Europe in waves", you must be those vapors!

[@wilhelmmeyer89]

@@gblack6777 Yes, yes, yes, go on parroting established ideology. What kind of "modern human" are you not using your brain for thinking things through but for parroting, if any?

[@Malpriorvids]

I believe it’s all based of bone fragments found. They found, at the time, the oldest fragments and progressed solely on that scant evidence. Maybe they forgot that Eurasia went through an Ice Age, the climate and glaciation destroyed almost everything in its path. All that’s left if stuff they’ve found deep in caves. This is hardly science, but the agenda demands they must keep the Out Of Africa theory.

[@wilhelmmeyer89]

@@Malpriorvids There wasn't just one iceage. Iceages come old go in cylces. Assuming apes and ancestors of humans living in Eurasia for about 1 or 2 million years they had to cope with several iceages and had to be intellgent enough to deal with it. What had the African "modern humans" t odeal with in teh same time. Maybe they had to learn which banana is the most delicious. And what else? Highly challenging live they had in Africa and therefore their intelligence became much higher than the intelligence of some apes in Eurasia. That is the theory established anthropology needs.

[@benyahudadavidl]

Perhaps you are unaware that Black people are the only homo sapiens sapiens and nonBlack people have only been on the planet for six to ten thousand years and are NOT human have no known origin according to science. See DNA science and David Reich on KZbin.

[@fellsmoke]

Sea faring humans 200000 years ago means north America, central and south America were open to and probably migrated into as soon as seafaring people's came within the coastal zone traversing and connecting north America to the rest of the world Duh! Not to mention outright ocean navigation and navigators such as the Polynesian.

[@champfox1]

Don't forget Noah. He was the first seafairer before the world ended the first time around. Along with animals, he probably brought some stone age tools with him too. Yup

[@simpledragon]

In 200, 000 years humans may have been wiped out numerous times with small clusters of humans in mountains and caves. Because we can generate electricity more humans will survive the next extinction event. If there was a civilization in Russia before the ice age ;food could not be grown without electricity.

[@warrenbooth2103]

200,000 years ago the Mediterranean Sea did not exist like it now it was a shallow salt lake .

[@davidmasland5627]

Given that content humans tend to stay home. It’s about climate.

[@tobywestfall2970]

Discovering how to maneuver boats two thousand years ago that doesn't sound that amazing, they were building pyramid three thousand years ago and that was way beyond a boat

[@maketaco6683]

but how did they know of Crete before they sailed there? Hard to imagine they found Crete by accident as Columbus found places.

[@HighlyCompelling]

You can see 20 miles

[@maketaco6683]

@@HighlyCompelling but Crete is 200 miles from land

[@tonyacuesta7051]

Man is so arrogant to think that we are the most intelligent. Meanwhile we are not smart enough to figure out how the so called ancients accomplished such great things. 🤷‍♀️

[@e-curb]

We are plenty smart enough to come up with a thousand theories. It's the proof we are looking for in the archeological record.

[@fleadoggreen9062]

Well that’s a great idea BuT Why didn’t they keep doing it ?? America seen Vikings then 500 years later Columbus ??? Why not more often ?

[@homerdada5533]

yup hiram has been going to the fareast/ awfyr/ ophir in the time of david and solomon... maybe much earlier ...

[@flyhouseoftruth470]

They went to South America where they lived for many years before they were killed off by another band of humans that came in later from the north. The End

[@nonnyjones8217]

Absolutely beautiful all this information can be found in Africa by the way… it’s just that certain people or a group of people want to keep us in the dark.. 😢 it would be awesome if you talked about Adams calendar…❤️🖤💚❤️🖤💚…

[@HighlyCompelling]

Never heard of that until now. Proves your point. Thanks!

[@NeptunesLagoon]

the stone circled astronomy made by Natuffians..? pre Egypt... just like the other caucasian stone circles, see the stone circle ruins in the cape of africa, same as found in Levabt from Syria to Yemen: ever hear of them... 2 reasons: ruins the bible, and the current narratives, shows caucasians thru africa at the time, while others were still extant h. erectus forms.. like Asselar man or any before...

[@Beeroclock81]

Take a look at the Irish and maori tribe tattoos they are exactly the same. People had been crossing the oceans long before we had thought

[@harryasstruman3101]

⛵️💨 Faster Gilligan 🦖💨💨💨🏝

[@rocksandoil2241]

Seems to me that dugout boats and paddles would predate any sail equipped vessel.

[@HighlyCompelling]

Imagine all the Giant Driftwood logs on the beach back in the Stone Age that would make perfect boats

[@lovey9286]

I'm going to go ahead and disagree with this because humans have been boating to Islands and makeshift wood rafts or boats or a floating log since they figured out wood had a buoyancy so they probably figured that out the day after they figured out that water was wet. So easily over a million years ago.

[@omegatired]

What's the song from Moana? We were Voyagers! Of course we were.

[@edl617]

No problem with this. It happening was true. Humans have been on earth well over 200,000 years and the number of civilizations that have come and gone probably is well over 50

[@Germanicus_Daimetor]

What are the oldest human remains found in Africa? All these early Human remains were found outside of Africa

[@ingopinkowski1091]

Not necessarily. The sea level was 150m lower. What you call ilands today were part of the mainland. You could walk there.

[@billkallas1762]

150m is nothing......The passage at Gilbralter is 3,000 feet deep.

[@NeptunesLagoon]

crete was an island for millions of years, and never had a landbridge... Oops

[@TheLionFarm]

Yo "Ancient Humans May Have Sailed The Mediterranean 450,000 Years Ago HUMANS 20 December 2022 MICHELLE STARR"

[@HighlyCompelling]

Thanks for the tip!

[@twitterjackedmitchell8096]

In a land of rivers and lakes sub Saharans never even built a raft or a canoe😂

[@scottcooper1257]

How did sapiens sapiens leave Africa when the oldest remains are found outside Africa? Its more like modern humans arrived in Africa 100,000 years ago which the oldest remains indicate there and much older remains are found else where as we hadn't arrived there yet?

[@HighlyCompelling]

Also I think humans are practicing cremation many hundreds of thousands of years ago and burial is more modern phenomenon therefore lack of bones