Hunting Overseas: We Aren't In Kansas Anymore, Toto - GMP

[@chetlockwood1491]

I've had the great fortune to hunt overseas as well as a little travel, my two grand forays were to Argentina for a visit, duck hunting and Perdiz (upland hunting for the Spotted Tinamou), as well as a trip to England for sightseeing. Argentina was an eye opener, life is hard, the struggle is real. My Ex-wife was a foreign exchange student to Argentina her senior year, we visited her old friends, but the first three days were in pursuit of fowl, water and upland, but the next seven days were spent living as Argentines, in a small village on the outskirts of Rosario by the name of Fuentes. We are so blessed with our freedoms and lifestyle, a person has no idea until you have seen the slums outside of Buenos Aires, how good we have it. They are barred from firearm ownership, foreigners are fortunate to be able to utilize the outfitters guns (rent and buy their domestic shells) but the hunting is legendary. England had kinship that was palpable, a brotherhood separated but by a small span of water. This was 12 or 13 years ago before all the Islamic falderal, genuinely beautiful country, it had a homey feel except for driving on the wrong side and strange verbiage for traffic control, Stay off the verge, Give Way, Queue Here, I found out while there, a hunting trip would. have been possible without great expense with further research. But I was more than happy to be back on American Soil in the Good Ole USA. Chet

[@fmgpubs]

Boy howdy about being in America. Those who trash this country simply have no experience overseas. I’d like to see them be forced to live in some godforsaken country for a few months. Then suddenly what they have here would seem like a dream. Roy

[@pigpen5145]

Thanks for sharing this topic with us. I have heard a couple of times this week how blessed we are here in America. Having just celebrated Veteran's Day, it reminded me of the fact that we have many people to thank for the freedom that we all too often take for granted. I am guessing that many countries would not even think of having their citizens enjoy some of the sort of privilege that we do, starting with the Bill of Rights. It is little wonder that so many people would love to live here.

[@fmgpubs]

Indeed. And those who don’t have likely never been overseas … Roy

[@douglasmcneil8413]

You phrased your comment a lot more politely than I think I could have. And I agree with it completely. God bless you and thank you for your eloquence.

[@fmgpubs]

@@douglasmcneil8413 And thank you for our kind courtesy Doug. Roy

[@Gene_Yohannan]

It’s funny, my grandson who plays a lot of Dungeons and Dragons asked me if I was a Druid. Because when I took him hunting we gave gifts to the land in keeping with Navajo traditions. He saw it as something mystical, which in the Navajo way would be just that, only he went with what he knew. I said no, but we need to take it that seriously. The land is a gift, & the game that gives itself to us should be treated as a gift as well. It’s deer season here now and I still follow the e traditions of gifting to the land so as to hope for a bountiful hunt. 🤠

[@tbjtbj4786]

My nephew basically ask me the same thing. Because I have all ways thanked the animals that we take and not necessarily pray but have a moment of quiet with the animal. My family just all ways did that I know since at least the middle 1800s.

[@fmgpubs]

It’s always a peaceful thing to do. Roy

[@Gene_Yohannan]

@ it’s the way to thank the animals spirit

[@kevinjones7171]

Another great video! Have had the privilege to hunt in Germany, very similar experience to Brent’s but not quite as ceremonial. Australia was more like here in US. Oh Roy- don’t feel bad… never seen the Simpsons either 😊

[@fmgpubs]

Glad I’m not alone in the Simpsons thing Kevin … Roy

[@fousea12]

My grandfather was a Jager for an old royal family in Czechoslovakia before the war. My family was definitely all about firearms. They had hundreds of edged weapons and firearms up to and including matchlocks, wheel locks, all the way up to new 30’s era firearms. Rifles, shotguns, handguns. It’s a long story I can’t go into here, but the buried them when the Nazis marched in. When my dad got back from the war they dug them up and the communists confiscated them. My dad and mom went back for a visit after the iron curtain fell and they were in a museum. My dad tried to get them back but they said it was a national treasure. The one gun culture did not happen till the communists were booted. You are correct they are deadly afraid of Putin, and that they may lose freedom again. They also cannot understand the communist road we are trying to go down. I tell horror story’s of what my family endured under Nazi socialism and communism but people do not believe me. Thank God that the election went the way it did, not only for 2A but for our basic freedoms. Americans have zero idea what communism is or what trials and tribulations you endure under it. Yes if a kid heard their parents talk bad about the government they told teacher. The kid got a medal and the parents went to a “reeducation “ camp or worse. My dad showed me the hunting traditions of the last meal, twig in cap, if it was your very first kill ever, then you got a dot of blood on your forehead to link you and the animal in your mind forever. I have a ton of story’s but no room here to tell about the hunting and politics.

[@fmgpubs]

Good advice and observations sir. From someone who knows! Roy

[@exothermal.sprocket]

I watch a Hungarian gentleman's channel his features black powder and old firearms technology, many times ammo made in the old fashioned way. His hunts are vaguely familiar to what you describe about European hunts. He has a brief ceremony after the animal is taken before it is taken home for processing.

[@charliedobihal3136]

Did you check your rifle on your flight? Was it different for the return flight?

[@fmgpubs]

I checked rifles on my first and second African trip but not the third. It’s a royal pain and on the third trip (to Botswana) we simply used the rifle supplied by the guide. Much easier! If you bring one into the country there you need to go through customs which is always time consuming and expensive. Then on the way home you need to declare them and prove you had them when you left. Before leaving you have to have US customs fill out a form showing what you’re taking with you (binocs, rifles, etc.) Roy

[@tbjtbj4786]

I could be wrong but. From what i have read. Europe hunting is a social thang and started with the high society people. American was to put meat or money on the table ( market hunters) Growing up we had neighbors that still ate alot of wild game not necessarily by choice. And a lot of the reverance goes out. When you neec to get the 2 rabbits back home so mom can cook supper for everyone

[@fmgpubs]

I’d say, since the early 1900s it has become more of a monied pastime. But before then it was also subsistance hunting even for them. Roy

[@tbjtbj4786]

@fmgpubs i was thinking like the olddays when it was the lords or kings woods and hunting was a nobleman sport in Europe. Compared to America where it was every one

[@tbjtbj4786]

I had a buddy from Germany. He hunted here. He had a 3 barrel rifle , shotgun and small rifle. If i remember right it was 6x57r 16ga and 5.6 ( savage 22 hp) They hunted hogs, deer , fox what ever came out that was on the hunting list. Just going out to deer hunt and if a hog came out just hunting them were different. Him deer hunting and a rabbit pops out he was usto shooting the rabbit. I did love his second gun though bear, hog gun. A dubble 9.3x72 with a 12ga slug barrel underneath them. I think it was a Merkel. He saw mine and when why? I guess tippical America. I want a rifle todo best at each hunting situation. 45-70 for the swamps 257w for the hay fields

[@exothermal.sprocket]

I believe they are referred to as a Drilling.

[@tbjtbj4786]

@exothermal.sprocket i think you're right on the 3 different barrel ones. Not sure about the sxs rifle with the extra shotgun barrel. I had a old shooters Bible that showed a bunch of different barrel setups there were a lot of strange names on them

[@fmgpubs]

Indeed. I’ve handled a drilling and they can be awfully heavy! Roy

[@exothermal.sprocket]

@@fmgpubs Interesting how that label doesn't evoke firearms, as an American reading it. My mind goes to oil, water, deep holes in the ground.

[@LouT1501]

Your comments about the reverence of the hunt that you, Brent, saw reminds me of Ted Nugent and his attitude towards his prey. Good episode, I enjoyed hearing your thoughts, Brent.

[@fmgpubs]

It makes it all more enjoyable too, I think. Roy

[@flaco5581]

I think im the first one here! The benefits of retirement!

[@gunkylol]

Braggart! 🤓👍🤗

[@gunkylol]

Braggart! ;-[)

[@fmgpubs]

Braggart … Roy

[@flaco5581]

​@@fmgpubs lol

[@1boortzfan]

The long and short of it is that we have raised a generation of slobs. People don't know how to dress for a job interview and restaurants don't have dress codes anymore. The thought of giving reverence to a dead animal is far beyond people's compression. Thank you for bringing this to light.

[@fmgpubs]

I can’t say I disagree entirely. There are some like us who get it, but alas … so many don’t. Roy

[@flaco5581]

Homburg?