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Fluting Clovis Points

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HuntPrimitive

HuntPrimitive

Күн бұрын

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@lukebaker844
@lukebaker844 Жыл бұрын
Thought you’d appreciate this: I was scrounging in a city creek in Missouri today for chert, when a a young man walked in too and started testing stone as well. I asked him if he was flintknapping and he said he was. I asked where he learned to do it and he said “Huntprimitive”. I said “that’s my boy”, and showed him better what to look for and how to go about it. Your work is spreading far Ryan. Keep it up.
@austinlong7700
@austinlong7700 Жыл бұрын
Don’t worry about about the ppl that are in a rush and don’t want the explanation. There are plenty of other content creators and videos that just show you they can preform certain techniques and don’t share how. What sets you apart is how detailed you are. You give us the why, how and when. Your knowledge is so amazingly precise. That it allows others to follow the path on the road you have created for your students/followers to be able to get consistent results over and over. that’s what makes you the best flint knapping channel on KZbin and sets you apart. I greatly appreciate you explanations and you sharing your learning experiences with us!
@humperdink46
@humperdink46 22 күн бұрын
So awesome, I think this is a serious insight into the production of fluted points. Experimental archeology at its finest. The way you got there from working on blade tech is amazing, it's like you got to experience their exact thoughts from thousands of years ago.
@ncsaddlehunter77
@ncsaddlehunter77 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Thank you for all of the effort that you put into your videos and for your passion for helping us learn the old technologies
@RiverbendlongbowsOutdoors
@RiverbendlongbowsOutdoors Жыл бұрын
That was great Ryan 👍🏻 We had a neighbor as a kid who was always making points in New Mexico. I can't remember his name but I remember him using a similar technique . Thanks for sharing
@Freeman-Dl70
@Freeman-Dl70 Жыл бұрын
As a knapper, these techniques will be extremely useful in my future. At my old home was a large creek, There's been many broken pieces deposited in that dark water. Many years from now, someone will find them and be baffled.
@d.l.huntministries8131
@d.l.huntministries8131 Жыл бұрын
Congratulations!! I was holding my breath when you hit the last one! I hope I can get to Fluting Clovis Points.Wow!! I see that you got the other side fluted. Yes got it.
@Colton1776
@Colton1776 6 ай бұрын
Love your long form content!!
@Woodyslithics
@Woodyslithics Жыл бұрын
Incredibly informative video. Your excitement and passion for knapping makes your material very enjoyable and easy to follow. Thanks, Ryan.
@jefffinn7113
@jefffinn7113 Жыл бұрын
Amazing! Thanks for the explanation of how your thinking evolved on the technique. Very cool
@Shrubfan
@Shrubfan Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Love watching you work. Your explanation makes sense to me regarding the curvature to hinging. Great video!
@rogerhostetler1359
@rogerhostetler1359 Жыл бұрын
I've been wrapping a tight leather around my clovis points for years. Now I have to try this. Old dog new tricks
@frankparrish5657
@frankparrish5657 Жыл бұрын
I sent him an email over a month ago explaining the wood holding device, but he forgot to mention that part! Get two flat slats of oak from home depo 12 to 15 cm long and pitch glue two buttons of wood to the one end of each to hold the wood away from the flute removal. wrap the tip in buckskin once or twice, and sandwich the preform tip in the wood slats flat, then wrap the whole thing with a piece of string. That said, I like his antler and leather take on it. Spread the word, let everybody know. It works great with obsidian, flint, and quartz crystal.
@lobopropredatorcontrol
@lobopropredatorcontrol Жыл бұрын
Really Really great video, very valuable information
@neanderthalnonsense
@neanderthalnonsense Жыл бұрын
My oh my. I think you cracked it. I'm definetley making one!!! I'm watching currently but couldn't wait to comment. Really nice!!
@earlshaner4441
@earlshaner4441 Жыл бұрын
Good morning from Syracuse NY brother and everyone else
@Tradbow85
@Tradbow85 Жыл бұрын
I've been watching a lot of videos lately. Just by theory and visuals, this method seems far safer than anything else I've seen. This will be the method I try firts.
@lymanclark5537
@lymanclark5537 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing, Ryan, I love Clovis fluting and have been working on techniques for several years with natural tools.
@kensmith8997
@kensmith8997 Жыл бұрын
So many great ideas in this video, thanks for sharing
@bakters
@bakters Жыл бұрын
Okay, you got an early like. That flute was a beaut!
@Brandaniron
@Brandaniron Жыл бұрын
Nice work and teaching!
@devangrey4376
@devangrey4376 Жыл бұрын
Really cool video!
@draven3838
@draven3838 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant idea, im glad i watched this video, ill be giving it a try tomorrow, i need to replace a point i broke on a buck deer that turned his head into line of fire and the dart smacked his antler.
@gmol2812
@gmol2812 Жыл бұрын
Very good explanations, thanks
@peterwiking7899
@peterwiking7899 Жыл бұрын
Nice job! I actually have made flute with that way indirect but didn't filmed it..but shall do that next time!
@frankparrish5657
@frankparrish5657 Жыл бұрын
Nice Clovis point.
@riverrainflintknappingart5288
@riverrainflintknappingart5288 Жыл бұрын
Hell yeah great video thank you!
@arvilmogensen1945
@arvilmogensen1945 Жыл бұрын
I have 2 successes out of about 20 attempts at fluting. Made the preforms as good as possible consuming inordinate about of time and broke 90%. So, I searched Lithics Casting Lab and bought a plastic cast of broken Clovis BEFORE the flute was removed. I found ONE such cast. The Nipple is huge. Like OMG it is big. I tried to replicate that nipple and suffered even more catastrophic failures.. I am convinced that End Shock is a big issue. I think you are on to something in minimizing the Step Fracture termination. Lower the nipple and adjust the angle to hold the point has to be like you explain to get the over shot to get the curve and a smoother termination and less “diving” to avoid that big Step termination. That abrupt Step says a lot of energy was still left in that fluted flake and so the point breaks.
@kaelin865
@kaelin865 Жыл бұрын
Really nice video
@grantdelrosario5737
@grantdelrosario5737 Жыл бұрын
I was able too look at a private collection and focused mainly on the Clovis. There were atleast 50 bases that were broken in the fluting process.
@markbrooks5278
@markbrooks5278 Жыл бұрын
I find this very interesting! Wondering so many possible methods that early man may have tried, one thing i can imagine is they were working a lot of points on bad days of weather and sitting around a camp fire, is it possible that they stuck the point down into the coals first before they fluted??? I dont know , i heard so many things,, they briefly heated them and then touched them with a strip of wet leather to pop a section out,, ??? Enjoy your videos and much appreciate them, i was tryin to make arrow heads probably years before you were born , and never really figgured it out..😉👍
@cantseetheforestforthetree9673
@cantseetheforestforthetree9673 11 ай бұрын
That wooden jig reminds me of ones Tony Soares experiments with on his channel.
@dennisstolte1103
@dennisstolte1103 Жыл бұрын
Nice Plainview.
@cutbaitkenny
@cutbaitkenny Жыл бұрын
Ryan I have one that was found in Missouri that is fluted 3/4 on one side and an overshot on the other side, About 2.5 inches long
@GL4speed
@GL4speed Жыл бұрын
This video is super informative!! Excellent description! Are you pushing the piece into the indirect stick or are you just holding enough pressure to keep it in place? I was in a discussion awhile back talking about the hollowed wood fluting technique and was sayingbthat the flute may be limited by the contact with the wood and something else in the channel to mark the end of the flute. Seems like Jack Crafty was who I was talking with. I've since thought about a section of bone instead of wood being used for that....bone would be easier to prep than hogging out wood. I also wrap points in leather when doing a hard basal strike to thin a base down and have almost no breakage...with good tip support too.
@lelandshanks3590
@lelandshanks3590 Жыл бұрын
Do you agree Ryan, the paleo people didn't heat treat they worked it raw. Greg Perino told us they had 1st. Pick of the highest grade materials.
@jeffggin4548
@jeffggin4548 Жыл бұрын
I think it was Tony Soares that had a video where he used a grooved wooden holder for fluting.
@ThomasRonnberg
@ThomasRonnberg Жыл бұрын
would love to see you on a podcast with people like Randall Carlson or Diamond from Magnetic Reversal News
@ThomasRonnberg
@ThomasRonnberg Жыл бұрын
some very important research here
@Teleman01
@Teleman01 Жыл бұрын
Wow!!!
@neanderthalnonsense
@neanderthalnonsense Жыл бұрын
I think if you braced your hand that holds the jig against your left knee. You may be able to drive longer flakes. Maybe squeeze your knees together. Just a suggestion. Great video.
@arvilmogensen1945
@arvilmogensen1945 2 ай бұрын
I am a little confused, maybe a lot confused. When pressure flaking a point and wishing to create long flakes, as you, yourself mention in your videos, we want convexity cross the cross section of a point. The flake travels “up” and “over” the median ridge. So, what happens when we take an “over shot” flake.? Well, we want convexity without discontinuity such as a “hinge.” But, we can eliminate the hinge and undercut the hinge, but lookout because the energy to remove a thicker flake will see the flake removed travel up and over the median ridge and take a bite out of the opposite side of the point if we impart too much energy and the flake is too thick. So I conclude, a flute flake is just like any other regular flake to be removed. So convexity in the longitudinal direction of the point is important. The flute platform need so be “low” but above centreline but so the flute flake travels up and over just like a flake does when removing a flake across the cross-section of a point. But as my logic seems to suggest, that fluted flake “thickness” removed CANNOT BE TOO THICK. But if the flute flake is too thick, it will behave like a “biting flake” and dive if it’s still carrying enough energy will cause the point to break in half. So in conclusion that flute platform seems to me must be “low”, the point have longitudinal convexity “thinner at the base and tip and thick in the middle” so the flute removed goes up and over. But the platform for that flute must be ground and abraded then release flakes removed either side. Now ….. how hard must the platform be struck and just how thick should that flute flake be? …….. Is everything I have written wrong, or am I in agreement with you?
@lancemcilwainoutcastmetald5398
@lancemcilwainoutcastmetald5398 Жыл бұрын
Love your videos bud. Keep them coming
@danielflintknapping
@danielflintknapping Жыл бұрын
It was great following along, I learned a lot 👍 have you thought of using a dogwood or boxwood billet? I started using boxwood and its made such a huge difference for my indirect blade making 🙂
@michelthimot8306
@michelthimot8306 Жыл бұрын
Good video, one question. Why wood billet instead of antler?
@mikemason4758
@mikemason4758 Жыл бұрын
1. Australian Buloke as a replacement for the indirect percussion tool.I wonder how it would do.
@mikemason4758
@mikemason4758 Жыл бұрын
Also your really reshaping the glove I. This art.
@frankparrish5657
@frankparrish5657 Жыл бұрын
I use the same technique with direct antler billet and it works every time, obsidian or flint.
@joncutt872
@joncutt872 Жыл бұрын
What about using a cooked cow femur for your cantilever? There should be little flex and has a built in trough.
@mrln247
@mrln247 Жыл бұрын
Why not haft a piece of antler like a stone axe to make a hammer, just feels like would have more control trying to keep your leg and arm dead still while swinging. Could try striking on top of a log instead of your leg then be hitting a stationary object.
@ultramegamike5000
@ultramegamike5000 Жыл бұрын
You should do a corner notched Charleston with the flared out "barbs". I don't think i have ever seen it in a video. It looks like it would be difficult to notch it and not break the barbs or maybe you notch it first then work the point down skinnier.
@c0nstantin86
@c0nstantin86 Жыл бұрын
Is this like a whistling throwing knife? Warfare not hunting? They did this with slingshoot projectiles
@dominiquebrewer139
@dominiquebrewer139 11 ай бұрын
What’s the point of the Clovis?
@arastoo.202
@arastoo.202 Жыл бұрын
👍🎖️💐💥👌
@jillatherton4660
@jillatherton4660 Жыл бұрын
😄👍
@ep7503
@ep7503 Жыл бұрын
As the risk to break the blade is high, why not fluting the blade first and then finish it after a success ? What a waste of time...
@KADIAK_023_RUS
@KADIAK_023_RUS Жыл бұрын
👍👍👍🔥🔥🔥🇷🇺
@lancemcilwainoutcastmetald5398
@lancemcilwainoutcastmetald5398 Жыл бұрын
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