Telescope Resolution vs. Aperture and Wavelength

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Huygens Optics

Huygens Optics

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@HuygensOptics
@HuygensOptics 2 жыл бұрын
The explanation of the microscope experiment contains a misleading simplification for the sake of understandability. Can you find which simplification that is?
@Markoul11
@Markoul11 2 жыл бұрын
Great video and amazing explanation. You have addressed a very important aspect of the angular resolution of the Webb and clarified that Hubble gives actually sharper images than Webb which previously was not understood and they gave the wrong impression that Webb is sharper than the Hubble. However Webb can collect more light and therefore will have a longer range. Nevertheless, you did not address that infrared spectrum of Webb is not absorbed so much as visible spectrum of Hubble from space dust, gasses and nebulas. Therefore with the Webb we will seethrough these obstacles which is a very important feature of infrared telescopy.
@Markoul11
@Markoul11 2 жыл бұрын
About the spacing between the mirror segments of the Webb and the diffraction and sharpness problems this can cause? I believe the black substrate material behind the mirrors will absorb all these artifacts.
@Emenblade
@Emenblade 2 жыл бұрын
the way you showed us the wave propagating on screen doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Im not entirely sure how you did that to be honest, was it by changing the focal length?
@SodiumNitrateBot
@SodiumNitrateBot 2 жыл бұрын
Explaining that the light pattern outside the aperture looks like a wave because that's the only way light can travel is misleading -- shining a laser across a flat surface wouldn't look wavy, even though it's also traveling as an electromagnetic wave. The wave pattern is an interference effect with the wavelets traveling at the edge of the aperture
@HuygensOptics
@HuygensOptics 2 жыл бұрын
@@SodiumNitrateBot Yes, Lucas, spot on. I am suggesting in that part that what you are seeing is the actual EM-wave moving out and inwards, which is of course not true. You are still just seeing diffraction. However, because you can only see diffraction to the point that the field extends, there will still be some relationship between the extend of the energy redistribution and the extend of the diffraction pattern. I left this in to let people discover this themselves. @Alex Domatas the patterns are recorded by changing the focal position of a microscope with a very shallow depth of focus. In this way you can observe what happens at a specific "slice" of space. I used this same method in previous videos such as the one on Photon sieves.
@twestgard2
@twestgard2 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not aware of any other KZbin channel that has your combination of approachability for an optics beginner like me, combined with depth of technical detail if I make the effort to study it. Thanks so much, and please keep the videos coming.
@Pidrittel
@Pidrittel 2 жыл бұрын
I can only 2nd this! ^^ Thank you Huygens Optics!
@Arachnos27
@Arachnos27 2 жыл бұрын
Truth
@BlahBleeBlahBlah
@BlahBleeBlahBlah 2 жыл бұрын
I third this! Thanks from Australia :-)
@VikasVJois
@VikasVJois 2 жыл бұрын
Perfectly put
@hussainali9999
@hussainali9999 2 жыл бұрын
Me too
@programorprogrammed
@programorprogrammed 2 жыл бұрын
"This principle is far more often explained, then it is really understood" love it.
@csours
@csours 2 жыл бұрын
Haha, yea, I caught that too. There's a lot of low-key jokes in these videos.
@SuperAWaC
@SuperAWaC 2 жыл бұрын
Most schools of engineering are like that, these days. Simply focused on cramming as much information into a students head as possible without regard for actually understanding it.
@charlesmanning3454
@charlesmanning3454 2 жыл бұрын
So it is with many principals, physical and otherwise.
@douglaskoo2354
@douglaskoo2354 2 жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more than that ! ( very agree )
@chaz720
@chaz720 2 жыл бұрын
That was a fantastic turn of phrase.
@semidemiurge
@semidemiurge 2 жыл бұрын
Living in Tucson Arizona and surrounded by a large astronomical and optical research community I have had the opportunity to talk with many optical researchers and astronomers. You sir have an exceptional ability to communicate the science of optics. I appreciate your efforts and hope you continue as I have learned a great deal from your videos. cheers
@colinbrown7947
@colinbrown7947 2 жыл бұрын
A fellow Tucson resident on this channel! It shouldn't be surprising but for some reason it just makes me happy
@professorbellorum
@professorbellorum 2 жыл бұрын
@@colinbrown7947 Third Tucson Resident here, and it does indeed make me very happy. The Tucson Optics community is great.
@briank592
@briank592 2 жыл бұрын
Im a hobbyist in tucson. What approachable communitys do you all speak off? I got an 8" dobsonian and some great books, but i need more stellar friends!:)
@professorbellorum
@professorbellorum 2 жыл бұрын
@@briank592 Tucson Amateur Astronomers (TAA) is a great place to make connections and get started.
@briank592
@briank592 2 жыл бұрын
@@professorbellorum Thank you for your direction!
@AppliedScience
@AppliedScience 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are always great! Yes, I'd be interested to know about segmented mirror telescopes. It does seem like diffraction would be a problem. Maybe they use similar tricks as semiconductor masks?
@firSound
@firSound 2 жыл бұрын
I believe they are very similar. The reconstruction techniques seem to share Fourier ptychography as an ancestor or cousin.
@HuygensOptics
@HuygensOptics 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ben. Yes, as long as the diffractive edges are regularly spaced, they represent a very specific frequency component in the Fourier transform. I'm not aware of how exactly they do it, you could imagine that it is some kind of low-frequency spatial filtering. That might also explain why the outer perimeter of the mirror has an hexagonal shape and has not been rounded. Because only then it the same filter can be used for both segment spacings as well as the edge.
@LarsBerntzon
@LarsBerntzon 2 жыл бұрын
@@HuygensOptics would this filtering be done in software then? How is it done for chip masks?
@HuygensOptics
@HuygensOptics 2 жыл бұрын
@@LarsBerntzon In chip masks it works differently. The precise mask pattern is actually irrelevant, it's only about the light distribution at the photoresist layer. So you use computational methods to optimize this intensity profile by using specific diffraction effects and write the patterns to achieve this onto the litho mask.
@LarsBerntzon
@LarsBerntzon 2 жыл бұрын
@@HuygensOptics Ah, I see. So if we could go to the end of the universe and place a really big specially crafted mask there we could get really good images in our telescopes :)
@jstrick38us
@jstrick38us 2 жыл бұрын
I got a master's degree specializing in electromagnetic wave propagation and your explanation of the physical cause of edge diffraction is the best ever! It really brings together the mathematics and real world observations. And yes, what you show as "waves" in the microscope image are actually interference patterns, not the actual light waves. This is a good way to visualize what is going on with the energy transfer.
@molomono9481
@molomono9481 2 жыл бұрын
I had most of this material at the university in a course on industrial imaging, at the time it was quite fascinating and i am surprised how much i put it to use working. It is so much fun to watch these videos and gain more info and insights on these topics. The quality of content you make and put out there for free is really astonishing. I cant thank you enough!
@molomono9481
@molomono9481 2 жыл бұрын
I digress, the second half of the video is the most fascinating thing i have seen this year. :D
@scottantonille784
@scottantonille784 2 жыл бұрын
Most instruments on JWST are sensitive to the near infrared at wavelengths
@Emenblade
@Emenblade 2 жыл бұрын
Wait, is there a reason why they wanted a comparable resolution?
@pahom2
@pahom2 2 жыл бұрын
@@Emenblade may be this is the reason why he is now a former optical engineer and full time conspiracy theorist
@TheoEvian
@TheoEvian 2 жыл бұрын
@@Emenblade I can imagine that when they were deciding the budget for JWST somebody told them "ok, we can give you enough money to make a telescope as good as hubble but in infrared, you are saying that it is a hubble replacement anyway, just in infrared, alright? We won't fund anything bigger than that".
@Tore_Lund
@Tore_Lund 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheoEvian Because the first object from JWT to be posted on Reddit will be compared side by side to the image from Hubble, and every crackpot will claim JWT is a waste of money as it produces worse images. So I guess NASA cares about Reddit Karma?
@TheoEvian
@TheoEvian 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tore_Lund They do care about PR quite a lot but I don't think that would be the main reason. As I said, I can imagine the image quality being a part of the budget negotiations.
@DawnOfTheComputer
@DawnOfTheComputer 2 жыл бұрын
Just gotta say, I love this channel much. Plenty of other channels offer shallow takes on similar topics, but this is the only channel I know that really dives deep into the subject of optics, and presents in a manner that most people with an interest in science can learn from. Thanks so much for taking the time to make these videos.
@marcteenhc9793
@marcteenhc9793 2 жыл бұрын
I would have loved to have this person as my teacher at the University. It does not matter how hard or complex the topic is, he always finds the way to make it extremely attractive to me... and I am just totally ignorant when it comes to physics or optics. Chapeau!
@DawidKellerman
@DawidKellerman 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@Chainsaw-ASMR
@Chainsaw-ASMR 2 жыл бұрын
After several weeks of James Webb news, I needed a fresh dose of Huygens Optics. Your videos are so well made that an interested novice, like myself, can follow along.
@redoxee
@redoxee 2 жыл бұрын
I've never considered why wave behaves like they do and your video gave me a greate intuition about it! This is super food for thoughts. Thanks
@rredding
@rredding 2 жыл бұрын
Ooooopssss there goes resolution in the deeper infrared. That was a remarkable clear and visually superb illustrated explanation, understandable for a layman like me. LOVED IT 💯!
@kylemilford8758
@kylemilford8758 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed. Not an oops though, it Is highly specialized and likely hundreds of hours were poured into deciding exactly where to focus our instrumentation. You can not have it all, and in this case they preferred to Have great balance between visible and infrared. Rather than deep infrared only without any visible light
@amedeeabreo7334
@amedeeabreo7334 2 жыл бұрын
Great explanation of these concepts. If you read any of the blogs on photography or cameras, you will be amazed at the confusion amongst photographers on the topic of "resolution" of lenses.
@lobsterbark
@lobsterbark 2 жыл бұрын
Modern day photographers are remarkably ignorant about how their cameras work considering how easy it is to find information on the internet
@dirtymiro
@dirtymiro 2 жыл бұрын
In the sea of videos trying to explain Webb ST. This one is absolutely the best. (From what I have seen so far)
@kantanlabs3859
@kantanlabs3859 2 жыл бұрын
Your explanations have a very large aperture, they are crystal clear !
@timmerk936
@timmerk936 2 жыл бұрын
Or you can look at it in terms of a spatial Fourier transform, translating between position and k-space. The spatial profile between the aperture/lens/mirror and the focus can be described by a fractional Fourier transform. This then tells you, that the k-vector distribution created by the round aperture in front of a lens makes a focus which is its Fourier transform, an Airy disk.
@HuygensOptics
@HuygensOptics 2 жыл бұрын
Sure. But this would also have significantly reduced average viewing duration.
@gustavlicht9620
@gustavlicht9620 2 жыл бұрын
@@HuygensOptics Speaking of Fourier, would it make sense to make apertures with Gaussian or raised cosine edges? E.g. via gradient in optical density? Those would result in less ripple. Another question - just like we use equalisation in digital communication, would it be possible to compensate for some of the distortion caused by the finite aperture using digital filters?
@PygmalionFaciebat
@PygmalionFaciebat 2 жыл бұрын
This video is much more intelligent than KZbin deserves.
@shoam2103
@shoam2103 2 жыл бұрын
Explaining the Huygens-Fresnel diffraction principle as an exchange of energy, is mindblowing! Now I even understand EM waves better too!
@josephchristman578
@josephchristman578 2 жыл бұрын
I've been working in optics for almost a quarter century, and I have to say that this guy has a gift at explaining things. I'm a little envious, actually.
@minecrafthERCULES
@minecrafthERCULES 2 жыл бұрын
You just delivered the single best explanation to why a pinhole lens has an optimal diamater. I always heard, that diffraction causes the image to get less sharp if you have an apperature that is too small, but I never really understood why. Your graphics really helped me too wrap my head around it. Such a great Video!
@thorntontarr2894
@thorntontarr2894 2 жыл бұрын
A remarkable presentation filled with teaching and discussion RE:JWST. As long as you identify fundamental limitations to optical performance, JWST will be 'seen' as remarkable with potentially new scientific data for cosmologists. Without belaboring points, a larger mirror could not have been launched today and high red shift demands longer wavelengths. JSWT will (hopefully) collect the only available photons from high red shift objects - full stop. Your video is one of the most well prepared and rigorous I have ever seen; I particularly like the energy discussion. I will review Feymann's lectures again to compare with your presentation.
@scottrobinson4611
@scottrobinson4611 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video - it's extremely informative. I am working on my PhD in Astrophysics, and you're still educating me. The surface-tension analogy and explanation for the Huygens-Fresnel principle was particularly eye-opening.
@john-r-edge
@john-r-edge Жыл бұрын
The presenter pans across a lot of physics, not just optics. The presentation is so well thought through that a lot of difficult concepts get explained so ordinary mortals can understand. Max kudos! But should we be surprised at the Dutch who currently (Q3/2023) have Robbert Dijkgraaf as Minister of Education. Dhr Dijkgraaf is an internationally known theoretical physicist, former director of the Institute for Advanced Study at Princeton (a role taken by Robert Oppenheimer in the 1950s). So brain the size of a planet, close enough - education in good hands.
@markusreichel3896
@markusreichel3896 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice Video! I am working in the field of optics and I got some amazing new perspectives from your videos. I think another advantage of the longer wave length of the James Webb telescope is that you can observe through dust which is not possible with visible light.
@JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT
@JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, that's one of the reasons NASA indicates for going IR - to get through the dust. However, after watching this video, I am a bit puzzled.
@Chainsaw-ASMR
@Chainsaw-ASMR 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the clear diagrams and pause your videos many times to study them.
@benheideveld4617
@benheideveld4617 2 жыл бұрын
A rare for-grownups content presentation. You feel taken seriously when listening to this.
@dukiemoto8676
@dukiemoto8676 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. That was the first time I understood the difference between Hubble and Webb’s capabilities.
@sullivan3503
@sullivan3503 2 жыл бұрын
I thought about this issue with the wavelength and resolution and hadn't seen it addressed yet, so thank you for that!
@datdudeinred
@datdudeinred 2 жыл бұрын
This is the only video on youtube that actually explained Diffraction so effectively that I can't even express. Now I know why everyone says don't shoot above f11 with most lenses because smaller the size of aperature the angle at which the incoming light will diffract so severely that most of it won't fall on sensor so less resolution/softer images. Also Thank you sir for that JWST explanation I was commenting everywhere saying the apparent resolution of JWST is basically even lower than hubble But so many people are just waiting for the images. Also IR is the reason why JWST has only 2MP sensors in its cameras to help it get as light as possible & not care about resolution as much as there is literally no way anyways.
@robcavazz
@robcavazz 2 жыл бұрын
NIRCam instrument consists of an array of ten 2048x2048 px sensors, so it's roughly a 40 MP imager. Furthermore the optic correction capabilities of JWST are far better than those of Hubble. Given it can work up to 600 nm (visible orange), it will provide high resolutions images, even if these will not give the most scientifically relevant results.
@datdudeinred
@datdudeinred 2 жыл бұрын
@@robcavazz Thats what I don't think they would have designed & made such a masterpiece if it e=was not even higher resolution. Guess all have to wait and watch which turns out to be true. But being an engineer myself I have immense amount of faith in the engineers who designed all of jwst the optics[USA guys] & ofc Instruments[Canada guys]. BTW do you know how they will add all the colors like the colors closer to blue in wavelengths? Which techniques? Also is it same for IR & Far visible range or it differs?
@Rychlas
@Rychlas 2 жыл бұрын
And here I was, all hyped up for some amazingly sharp pictures from the Webb's telescope.
@pedrova8058
@pedrova8058 2 жыл бұрын
[off topic] as a nerdy macro photographer, I just love THIS explanation of diffraction Chapeau!
@ghlscitel6714
@ghlscitel6714 2 жыл бұрын
I am fascinated by your clear and detailed explanation of the role of the diffraction limit on resolution. The last time I was dealing with it has been 45 years ago in the advanced internship (Fortgeschrittenen-Praktikum) physics studies. Since then I wondered that endoscopes and miniature cameras of mobile phones were able to supply such good images as never going into details. Now suddenly by following your video I experience more clarity. It is a great pleasure!
@bucky13
@bucky13 2 жыл бұрын
That explanation really came together at the end and made perfect sense.
@Rhine0Cowboy
@Rhine0Cowboy 2 жыл бұрын
Als iemand die halverwege de middelbare school natuurkunde liet vallen, nooit de uni heeft betreden, en later pas astrofotografie heeft opgepakt... moet ik zeggen dat ik de uitleg en combinatie met praktijk beelden super overzichtelijk en begrijpelijk vind. Goed werk!
@noeckel
@noeckel 2 жыл бұрын
When you describe the effect of relaxing boundary conditions, you're correctly describing the physics of diffraction. But I would argue that Huygen's principle denotes something more specific, even though I agree that this isn't always understood when people present it as if it were an exact description of nature. Huygens gave an approximate description of (linear) wave propagation that has one fundamental physical ingredient: the superposition principle. This ability to form superpositions makes it possible (a) to consider every point as the source of a "spherical wave," and (b) to reconstruct the wave at any other point from the spherical-wave contributions that originated at other points. To do this right, you have to do certain integrals (using Green's functions). The construction in Huygens' principle is an approximation to this method that captures the main phenomena reasonably well (in three dimensions, but ironically not so well in two).
@Hydrazine1000
@Hydrazine1000 2 жыл бұрын
Alonso & Finn, now those names take me back 25 years, to my time at TU Delft! What I kind of missed in this excellent explanation is that it is possible to increase the aperture of a system by creating an array of telescopes. If done properly, it increases resolution but not the sensitivity. Or, if you go more exotic, you can create a massive slice of an imaginary dish, and increase aperture this way. That would be the RATAN-600 radio telescope.
@Mp57navy
@Mp57navy 2 жыл бұрын
Good video. I am an amateur photographer. The facts laid out here are the reason, that people claiming "My phone does just as good pictures as your big camera" drive me mad.
@freddytime
@freddytime 2 жыл бұрын
This is not the first video from your channel that I see, but even more than before I'm mesmerized! You deserve millions of subscribers. Thank you very much for this amazing content!
@sean_vikoren
@sean_vikoren 2 жыл бұрын
It seems like it should be possible to set limits on the possible granularity of spacetime by looking for gaps in the stretched wavelengths. Thank you for the thorough going over on aperture.
@NielMalan
@NielMalan 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the energy concept of wave diffraction. I find it much more intuitive than the geometric concepts.
@thejtotti29
@thejtotti29 2 жыл бұрын
I hate to say it but this video has deflated a bit of my excitement for jwst. Up until now I had the idea in my head of jwst being able to literally zoom further out, and to be able to resolve those more distant objects just as well as Hubble. I have been imagining resolved images tracing the first stars ever born, and then being able to watch step by step as they coalesce into galaxies. This video has made it clear that we won’t be getting those images. I get that there is still an immeasurable amount of new science sure to come from the observatory, I’m just a bit bummed that the super-mega-ultra deep field of my minds eye is likely still one or two generations of space telescopes out…
@martinmckee5333
@martinmckee5333 2 жыл бұрын
That is something that has always frustrated me about the science journalism surrounding the James Webb. It has always been sold as a bigger/better Hubble, but it's not. It's an instrument with a totally different purpose. I have been worried for years that the general public might be disappointed when it "fails" to generate "better" results. Nothing against JWST. Just 100% a failure to explain what the goals and capabilities are. Which is a shame.
@lobsterbark
@lobsterbark 2 жыл бұрын
@@martinmckee5333 Most journalists aren't paid enough to care about anything. Most articles are written on short deadlines by people not qualified to write them, while they are working on several other similar articles besides. Under these circumstances, it's not surprising such incredibly poor coverage is given to every subject.
@martinmckee5333
@martinmckee5333 2 жыл бұрын
@@lobsterbark Not surprising, no. But still disappointing. I'm convinced that the quality of science journalism (or lack thereof), is a big reason for the current lack of excitement in and outright distrust of science by the general population.
@SKYST0RY
@SKYST0RY 2 ай бұрын
One of the best discussions on this topic I have ever seen.
@jianshen2223
@jianshen2223 2 жыл бұрын
So informative. I felt like I just absorbed a lecture without feeling the chore of a lecture.
@JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT
@JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! Diffraction is one of the most hermetic phenomena in light and you always make it reach the edge of grasping it. Fascinating subject!
@mariodistefano2973
@mariodistefano2973 2 жыл бұрын
As a simple viewer of this fascinating field of science, combined with your capability to communicate these complicated terms in a way simpler mood, is outstanding. With this background on my side, my expectations for the web space telescope were rather *BIG*... but you let me look better at the physical reality. I'm a bit sad, but THANKS!
@MitchFlint
@MitchFlint 2 жыл бұрын
Jeroen: Thank you for this video. It has let me add your astute observations on diffraction to my own patchwork of understanding. And I appreciate your sharing your extraordinary optical creations through your other videos. You are making an outstanding contribution to the world wide web!
@deepbadeka460
@deepbadeka460 2 жыл бұрын
Eon space labs is doing great. Really impressed with their work in very short time and limited resources. Keep doing good job Team Eon Space Labs (ESL).👏👏👏
@Emerson1
@Emerson1 2 жыл бұрын
That was a crazy good video! I would add that in quantum theory light is a particle of a given energy where "wavelength" corresponds to the probably of a thing (mirror or camera sensor) interacting with such photon(so reflecting it if a mirror, or absorbing it, if say a CCD) very generally speaking. Thus resolving power is based on how close the optics are to the "Overlap" of probability areas. These probability areas could be imagined as a fuzzy sphere equal to the wavelength of light ..where the closer we are to the sphere center , the higher the probability that photon will be absorbed/reflected etc. for ex: if a detector/mirror is so small that two separate photons landing on it have large overlapping areas , then "which photon" it was can not be well distinguished (uncertainty principle applied to electrons absorbing photons ) so the resolution is low. However all this does not contradict anything you have in the video, it is simply the alternative way to look at it. Keep up the great work.
@buidelrat132
@buidelrat132 2 жыл бұрын
Could you add some form of impedance matching structure at the boundary of the aperture to improve energy coupling and reduce reflection?
@PurpleVidaar
@PurpleVidaar 2 жыл бұрын
What like some material with different speed of light in it?
@joyztik
@joyztik 2 жыл бұрын
@@PurpleVidaar Or an energy sink.
@elderbob100
@elderbob100 2 жыл бұрын
I had a similar idea. A half inch strip around the front edge of the mirror that starts out clear and gradually turns black.
@douginorlando6260
@douginorlando6260 2 жыл бұрын
Something with 377 ohms of impedance (so it generates no reflection) but also has resistance to absorb the energy … the basic principle of stealthy radar absorption across the intended frequency range. EM waves are EM waves but materials involved behave different at different frequencies.
@Tore_Lund
@Tore_Lund 2 жыл бұрын
@@elderbob100 Some mirrors have the outer edge curve slightly away to make the bulk of the fringe rings be outside the imaging reflection. Black paint is also used, which is no better than a sharp edge, but usually the edge of an astronomical mirrors has worse imperfections at the edge, so it helps.
@chrisholt8598
@chrisholt8598 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. I love learning new things and you do a great job of explaining complicated concepts.
@carlbrenninkmeijer8925
@carlbrenninkmeijer8925 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this extremely clear explanation. I find that experiments like Webb and Ligo are truly physical science marvels. There was, I believe, and still is an infrared telescope aboard a large aircraft flying at roughly 12 km. The older one was the Kuyper observatory. In this respect I am curious how much better Webb will bee ! It is awesome! I was not clear about the statement " in our part if the universe " . I thought Holland was at the center. ;)
@davidvennel720
@davidvennel720 2 жыл бұрын
SOFIA, Stratosphere Observatory for Infra-Red Astronomy, a joint NASA/ DLR Project flies out of Southern California.
@hussainali9999
@hussainali9999 2 жыл бұрын
"When the pro speak". Thanks you for sharing your knowledge
@rimckd825
@rimckd825 2 жыл бұрын
If I continue to view your videos and supplement that behavior with advanced studies in maths and optics, I'll attain my advanced degree approximately 100 yrs after my death. But I still learn from you. Thank you very much.
@lavalampex
@lavalampex 2 жыл бұрын
An excellent explanation for people whithout deep knowledge for telescopes. I learned some unique stuff.
@davesmith9325
@davesmith9325 2 жыл бұрын
Superb presentation, especially about the edge effects of spreading both inwards and outwards, I've never seen that explained so clearly. Thankyou
@iamcomcy
@iamcomcy 2 жыл бұрын
This was an AMAZING reveal of optics down to the quantum level. Very thought provoking!
@sokolum
@sokolum 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice to understand the optical limitations of James Webb.
@Skukkix23
@Skukkix23 2 жыл бұрын
First video I have just seen of you and can just hope, you teach other people in some way other than youtube. Man this was spot on explanation and new information without the bla bla around other stuff!
@GreyGolla
@GreyGolla 2 жыл бұрын
I would be fascinated by a video describing the methods that the JWST uses to compensate for the gaps between the primary mirror segments.
@forton615
@forton615 2 жыл бұрын
It's the same principle as why you don't see the obstruction by the secondary mirror and the arms that hold it, they are not in focus. They form, in the worst case scenario, if the gaps were very big, a slight gradient on the image. (but I'm sure mr Huygens can explain it better). edit: it could be that they cause some weird difraction spikes on very bright stars, not sure about that.
@gastonpossel
@gastonpossel 2 жыл бұрын
@@forton615 yes, the spikes on near stars give away the geometry of the secondary mirror support arms
@therealzilch
@therealzilch 2 жыл бұрын
Well done. As someone who ground his own 6" Newtonian mirror in 1969, this is both familiar and new to me. cheers from sunny Vienna, Scott
@Axman6
@Axman6 2 жыл бұрын
With NASA’s announcement today of the completion of the JWST’s alignment, I would absolutely love a very (very!) detailed video on exactly what alignment means - their video mentions both spatial and phase alignment, using FFTs, and I can’t think of anyone better on the internet to explain it than Huygens Optics!
@pamdemonia
@pamdemonia 2 жыл бұрын
I love your explanations! They are so clear and interesting. I'm very excited to see what the Webb telescope will show us. I have a distinct memory of getting mild vertigo years ago watching a slow zoom in on some part of the deep field image and realizing that all those "stars" were actually galaxies. Thanks for your care in making such good sciences content.
@billpeiman8973
@billpeiman8973 2 жыл бұрын
I attended the Christiaan Huygens school in the early 1960s (Rotterdam) for Electronics; they had also optics and clocks&watchmaking as fields of study. Enjoyed this (refresher) course!
@Tore_Lund
@Tore_Lund 2 жыл бұрын
I presume his lectures were full of skirts? Huygens was 9 magnitudes more dandy than Fresnel!
@Emenblade
@Emenblade 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with the position of explaining light in the same manner as we would any other form of energy. Very good video my good sir, thanks for making this. As per typical with your content I find my self learning about something that I didn't even consider was a thing to learn.
@Zenobeus
@Zenobeus 2 жыл бұрын
So very good! You've cleared up things I thought I knew clearly before.
@ArrakisMusicOfficial
@ArrakisMusicOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful video!!! I would have loved if you teased the fact that you are going to give such a good explanation at the end, I was really frustrated at the beginning because you said a lot of things that are so and so, and you made no indication that you will explain later. I got instantly so curious that I stopped the video in 1/4 going to look elsewhere for answers. After a quick look at the comments, I came to the conclusion that you actually will explain, and I just need to be patient. :) Also for me, the key was first understanding the intuition, then the formula, that order would feel more natural to me. :) Thank you so much for these videos, I was incredibly curious about diffraction at boundaries for a long time and no physicist I talked with was able to give me an explanation I was happy with. Great insights!
@CalMariner
@CalMariner 2 жыл бұрын
Great great great video! I didn't even know how curious I was about this stuff. Your voice is super relaxing and you're so informative, too. We received a little 80mm aperture hobby telescope for christmas,and are already looking at others after seeing the moons of Jupiter.
@Brunoscaramuzzi
@Brunoscaramuzzi 2 жыл бұрын
Now I fully understand why a big telescope or microscope means better resolution!! Thank you!!
@waltersistrunk4200
@waltersistrunk4200 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative and thank you for this. While this telescope is wonderful for many reasons, it is false to assume image resolution beyond what has already been seen. Since James Webb is looking at infrared light, it is important to note the aperture required for comparable image resolution to visible telescopes is much greater even than six meters. The longer the wavelength, the greater the aperture needed for the same resolution. We will be able to see images from infrared light (not in infrared light) which will show us stars and galaxies at greater distances than can be observed in visible light, but we should not think we will see more distant objects with the same clarity Hubble has given us. As for planetary observations within the local galactic group, I think we are in for a real treat. This is where James Webb will excel. Thanks again for this video and for providing input on this issue.
@babylonfive
@babylonfive 2 жыл бұрын
YAY, made my month to see another video.
@diceblue6817
@diceblue6817 2 жыл бұрын
mindblowing video, thank you SO MUCH for showing what you think it'll look like at that wavelength - I'm still expecting the results could be eerie....... interesting stuff!! Best channel on youtube
@KuruGDI
@KuruGDI 2 жыл бұрын
That video explains this subject so well and is so interesting! Really pleasant to watch 😀
@Jobobn1998
@Jobobn1998 2 жыл бұрын
This is my first time finding your channel, but I'm definitely impressed!
@BRUXXUS
@BRUXXUS 2 жыл бұрын
Every new video you publish is such a treat for my brain. Thanks!
@rzalman96
@rzalman96 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool approach to Huygens principle. And now I also know it's pronounced Huyxens.
@bp495599
@bp495599 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, always say cameras are like most things, bigger is better. I am excited about the James Webb because the longer wavelength can see through dust giving us images of things we have never seen.
@nigelwilliams7920
@nigelwilliams7920 2 жыл бұрын
Your illustration of a wave passing through an aperture (at 12:50) raises an interesting question for me. When light from a lens or concave mirror passes through the focal point of the device, one could (I suggest) be forgiven for expecting that the properties of incident waves (their own direction, amplitude, polarisation etc) would all add up to create a single wave having properties which are the 'sum' of the properties of the incident waves. Thus beyond the focal point, the only wave which could be detected is one wave with a very singular direction, amplitude, polarisation etc. Another way to look at this is to consider a complex wave field (say ripples on a pond with numerous origins, directions, amplitudes, etc) with a thin probe. The probe would give data on the net amplitude at that point, but not any information about the direction before or after. We do observe the reinforcement and cancellation of amplitudes (eg interference patterns et al) yet somehow the amplitude, direction and polarisation of each incident wave is conserved either side of the point where the waves meet. How does your energy model explain this preservation of incident wave qualities through a point where the waves meet, when at that singular point only the net sum of these properties exists, and that point (with all the 'net' sum information it contains derived from the incident waves) would seem to be a logical starting position for the on-going propagation of the incident wave energy as a single wave with a single amplitude, direction etc? .
@GermanMythbuster
@GermanMythbuster 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love your Videos, every time I learn something new and exciting. Can't wait for the next one 😃😃 You are doing a Great job of explaining things in a simple to understand and interesting way. 10/10 🥰
@AlexKnauth
@AlexKnauth 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder what you could get by taking the incredible details you could see on the shorter wavelengths, and analyzing the relative "fuzziness" on the longer wavelengths, combining them if you assume some model of how the sources of the light correlate their emissions at different wavelengths
@gudenau
@gudenau 2 жыл бұрын
I feel this telescope will take trippy pictures for most people and be very informative to the people that understand the pictures.
@OMAR-ws2vs
@OMAR-ws2vs Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your explanation.It makes me understand more of the world itself.
@davidmurphy563
@davidmurphy563 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, the good old Rayleigh Criterion. A lovely piece of science, it's just to practical and easy. At least I presume that's the topic, I'm busy now but I'll sit down this evening.
@tomturtle400
@tomturtle400 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video explaining hard to grasp concepts!! Bravo!!
@slzckboy
@slzckboy 2 жыл бұрын
loved the explanation of angular resolution.
@brandonb6164
@brandonb6164 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation for non expert viewers!
@maxfern
@maxfern 2 жыл бұрын
Good video Huygens Optics ! In my modest knowledge of optics I have always thought that the aperture in a camera or telescope was related to the amount of light it gathers, so as to see faint objects, either/or to impress a photographic plate which was historically important. Whence the letter f for how Fast was the plate impressed. Your explanation and experiments of the aperture on the resolution was wonderful.
@etelmo
@etelmo 2 жыл бұрын
The F of an fstop is focal length, thus F/2 for a 50mm lens would be 50/2 or a 25mm sized aperture.
@wilsden
@wilsden 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a video about what you think the spectrums analyzed would look like, and the possible discoveries that many are predicting
@hherpdderp
@hherpdderp 2 жыл бұрын
"For some reason this video got a lot of attention" - because your stuff is freaking cool.
@charlie2640
@charlie2640 2 жыл бұрын
A wonderful explanation. Most of the people I work with on large telescope talk about the "Airy Disk" for a given optic size. You discuss the effects of this in the second half of this video but I don't think that you name it. The formula for the first minimum in the Airy pattern is the same as the equation the equation you provided for resolving power. Of course it's necessary to consider atmosphere distortion for any ground basted optic. Frequently worse than one arc second, although there are ways around this. A very real challenge for JWST is not just the initial alignment of the mirror to produce "image stacking" from all the primary segments, but phasing those segments. I believe that you can't really achieve the diffraction limit of an optic unless all the segments are alighted to a smooth surface that makes essentially a single surface, they must be piston to a fraction of the wavelength involved. Also all the segments need to have their radius of curvature matched and I believe there are actuators available to change the radius of each segment slightly. There are of course actuators on each segment to also adjust the tip and tilt of the segment, possibly more degrees of freedom.
@HuygensOptics
@HuygensOptics 2 жыл бұрын
Airy disk and angular resolution are related in the sense that airy disk is basically the smallest spot to which light from a specific aperture can be focused.
@jakobhalskov
@jakobhalskov 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this amazing explanation with clear examples without too much heavy math! This reminds to actually get my telescope out in the night, instead of letting it collect dust in the office :)
@nathanaultman7465
@nathanaultman7465 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful video. It would be interesting to hear a discussion about the interferometry techniques used by James Webb as you mentioned it.
@patrickmchargue7122
@patrickmchargue7122 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this explanation of the relationship.
@DIYTinkerer
@DIYTinkerer 2 жыл бұрын
Took me back to my Electromagnetism module in my physics degree, agree with you that the James Web Telescope will be sensitive rather than high resolution Vs Hubble.
@alfeberlin
@alfeberlin 2 жыл бұрын
Once in a while you stumble across a video for which a simple like-button just isn’t enough.
@mikecurtin9831
@mikecurtin9831 2 жыл бұрын
An excellent explanation. Thank you. It seems like this would also explain why refractors and schiefspieglers would punch way above their weight when viewing fine detail on planetary objects. Liked, subscribed, and now commented.
@MatthewLong8
@MatthewLong8 2 жыл бұрын
congratulations on the attention. you guys deserve it it's a kick ass idea.
@pefu512
@pefu512 2 жыл бұрын
I've learned something new from this video. Great illustrations and explanations. If there would be a sensor for the UV part of the spectrum on the James Webb platform, it would give even more angular resolution due to the shorter wavelengths of UV light. I think this could create interesting images.
@emmanueloverrated
@emmanueloverrated 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. What a great demonstration.
@ebrewste
@ebrewste 2 жыл бұрын
Can I like this twice. I just watched it again and liked it as much.
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