HW News - Intel Battlemage Imminent, AI Rant, Arrow Lake "Fix," Xbox Handheld, 'Floppy' Case

[@GamersNexus]

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[@Phynellius]

I really enjoyed the tour of Wendell's lair... office... are we sure he isn't some sort of silicon based dragon hoarding electronics technology?

[@carrotbutter-h1i]

how to speak in cursive for dummies

[@robertlawrence9000]

GN needs to have a regular series ranting about how Ai is bad just to make the Ai mad for all it's lies. 😂

[@NoProg]

@GamersNexus Do you have a video about. best bang for the buck in regards to gpu & cpu for a home rendering pc. Using rendering engines as octane, redshift etc. Im curiouse what an Artist rig would look like using tools as cinema4d, blender, maya etc.

[@yuriys5642]

Just curious because I ordered my dice when they were announced. Is it just new orders for 10% going to donation or old ones as well?

[@pleepler]

I do hope those reported reports of reports of reporting reports reported that Battlemage will launch in December will come true!

[@GamersNexus]

It remains to be reported whether the reporting of the reports-reporting the reports was accurately reported, but we will report back on the report once we see follow-up reports.

[@sergiolizardo6234]

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[@DrNoBrazil]

@@GamersNexus Most important... Who cares about Battlemage?

[@anreoil]

According to my reports, it will indeed launch in December 2020.

[@moldyshishkabob]

​@DrNoBrazil I did... before Pat Gelsinger said in an earnings call that they'd be winding down their GPU division.

[@fruzeniusgames]

Steve getting more and more unhinged with his extra quips and rants (and report reports) has been one of the highlights of this year.

[@be0wulfmarshallz]

It's actually sad though. That youtubers who report on news have to add comedy and quips to their otherwise straight informative videos so they can get more views from brainrotted people, the very thing Steve complains about with media literacy. So yes we're doomed because even channels like this cant avoid making it infotainment.

[@huuuuuumpy]

​@@be0wulfmarshallz lol imagine speaking on behalf of others and being this wrong.

[@Wheelman2004]

@@be0wulfmarshallz Sounds like you just need to read articles if hosts showing a bit of personality like Steve does gets you all bent out of shape.

[@f.eugenedunnamiii9452]

I come out curiosity about where hardware is at, I stay for the jibes and snark.

[@user-to7ds6sc3p]

​@@be0wulfmarshallzdelivering information in a entertaining way is a bad think? My fellow human, this is youtube, a platform meant for entertainment. Go read their webpage if you are scared of having fun while learning something.

[@Wampa842]

"I think the bones are solid." No wonder Arrow Lake is so anemic, it's missing the bone marrow.

[@GamersNexus]

hahahahaha. Extremely clever. Wish I'd thought of that!

[@SpoonHurler]

This comment made my morning 😂😂😂

[@tuunaes]

That's why government is giving them blood transfusion... err cash injection.

[@SelecaoOfMidas]

😂👍🏾

[@abavariannormiepleb9470]

Note for the less medically knowledgeable people: Blood cells are produced in your bone marrow.

[@Hectza]

Petition to have the FLP-01 reviewed against other 90s era cases so we can later compare 2025 cases to 1990 cases 🗣️🔊

[@chemislife]

I sense the revival of the 3.5" drive bays in future cases lol

[@Alxium]

I refuse to even acknowledge AI "summaries". I just scroll right on by. And you are absolutely right about media literacy. It is stunning how bad it is now, and how many people just accept incorrect information as hard facts and will refuse to even discuss how it might be incorrect; Idiocracy was a correct all along.

[@lolmao500]

I think its a big reason why trump won.... AI disinformation controlled by the pro trump tech bros

[@enlightendbel]

I'm less annoyed with the AI summaries (they are easy to spot) as I am with how many classicly reliable sites that used to have great reviews now all being the same format bloated AI generated tripe. It's sad.

[@NScherdin]

People have been accepting incorrect information from so called "experts" for our entire history. Treat AI like an anonymous reddit poster and you will be MUCH happier.

[@daviddebroux4708]

🤨 Idiocracy was about eugenics. I wouldn't mention it in further discussions like this for this exact reason.

[@LishtenbirdTech]

AI "summaries" can be useful in ephemeral things like livestream chats; it's not a big issue if they're wrong, and when they're hilariously incorrect, everyone gets a laugh. For factual information, though? Yes - it should properly RAG out the answer, and directly point to a trusted, human-made source... because otherwise it's just creative writing.

[@Bitwise1024]

Steve's word play continues to level up. You know why? Because he doesn't use friggin' AI to write his material! Thanks Steve.

[@JonoSSD]

Is it just me or does anyone else hates this dystopia we're living in where spokespeople for companies have to awkwardly dance around words for responses to completely straightforward situations as to not displease investors with a single negative connotation, while consumers, the ones actually giving money to the company, always get screwed?

[@ridleyroid9060]

That is kinda how it always has been. And I do hate it.

[@boltez6507]

That's the reason i hate good companies going public(planning as well),it literally spoils them to their core.

[@JonoSSD]

@@ridleyroid9060 Scummy bosses and greedy businesses are as old as time. But I feel like ever since we essentially normalized this "maximizing shareholder value", companies will stop at nothing to grow indefinitely (which is unrealistic), usually to the detriment of their products and employees. And when they inevitably make a mistake, even after it's well-known, they can't just admit it and promise to fix the problem, because that will make the line go down. And we can't have the line go down, it must go up forever. On the other side, some companies like Nvidia have ballooned based on smoke and mirrors, riding wave after wave of buzzwords like metaverse, crypto and now AI. When their new products have never been less impactful to actual consumers. I know the global economy is basically held together with optimism and _good vibes_ but the current situation (not just in tech but in general) feels like a thousand South Sea Companies just waiting to burst.

[@BeefIngot]

Bad people are winning more and more because society is becoming increasingly anti intellectual. People hear reasonable well thought out arguments and discard them wholesale in favour or a loud obnoxious person who they see as a hero purely for selling them on a fall guy and on being a strongman. This hits everywhere including here, where now companies truly have no fear of concerns regarding consumer rights because voters keep saying with their votes that they don't care about having functional government agencies.

[@termitreter6545]

Personally, my idea of dystopia is a lot worse than "CEOs acting dumb about luxury products underperforming"

[@nathanproper5516]

Wow Kurt Vonnegut and a NVidia LOTR poem. My day has been made! Thanks Steve

[@mjc0961]

Decided to duplicate the "$20 GN sent me" story for Cat Angels. Thanks Steve, back to you Steve.

[@GamersNexus]

That's amazing. I guess they'll find their way back to this video and know there's more coming! Thanks for supporting a group local to us. Can't wait to drop off a check!

[@KathrinHausermann]

@@GamersNexus While dropping off the check you might want to check in on their PC you built for them maybe some maintenance is due to "Defur" it :))

[@SpoonHurler]

Gonna help blow up the spot with a $20 from GN too 😂

[@marathonman96]

Did the same thing, I hope they know that a lot of help is coming their way

[@ceebee7203]

Me too! My cats made me do it 😂

[@tornadostories]

AI recently tried to gaslight me that a catastrophic EF4 tornado had happened a few days prior. It was confidently wrong.

[@MilesTormani]

Holy shit.

[@jonprall]

It’s crazy how confident these things are when they are blatantly wrong.

[@ClareHehe]

ai can be helpful but i still always fact check it

[@alilhard]

Personnally decided I had my fun when I got chatgpt to confidently contradict itself around 20 times in a row by making it confident 2+2=5 and 6 at the same time.

[@davidgoodnow269]

​@@alilhard Oh. That's just not good. Please, if ChatGPT asks if you want to play a game, don't choose Global Nuclear War.

[@Noblesteed17]

Major respect for the cat shelter donations especially local. You’re the man

[@GamersNexus]

I love supporting their shelter. It's so nice to see how much they appreciate even the couple dollar donations they get from viewers sometimes. They are such a focused and small shelter that we can see the direct impact. I've called them a lot over the years to help rescue strays and reunite them -- they'll send 'trappers' out at 4 AM to get cats, check the micro chip, and reunite. So great the work they do!

[@mikeydiamond2621]

Thanks Steve

[@jcat96]

Thanks Steve

[@SpoonHurler]

Thanks Steve😊

[@blissseeker4719]

Better to give to the poor and homeless men and women.

[@furykillerBZ]

Listened to that AI segment while I job hunt as my company's leadership pushes for me to lay off more staff because they said "AI" the magic number of times and think it will make my team more efficient, all while I stare at the 0.1% actual loss in efficiency due to the layoffs of dev staff, pauses on actual projects, and increased workload Appreciate you being grounded in reality

[@caramelldansen2204]

They know it doesn't increase productivity. They really _mean_ that it decreases variable capital. This will cause the rate of profit to plummet and create crises of unemployment and overproduction, but it will increase the organic composition of capital in the short term while allowing your boss and his shareholders to pocket the wages of those laid off!

[@trollcop4504]

Thanks Steve Glad to hear AMD is gaining market share, I work with people who still swear off AMD because they still think they make “cheap garbage”. It’s really a testament to how important brand image is, HP still sells more printers than anyone else despite the fact that they are absolute garbage

[@boltez6507]

yeah its due to their legacies and apparent sense of trust,people need to stop just buying stuff based on historical products,the more people do this,the more these legacy companies get power to sell shitier products.

[@moldyshishkabob]

​@boltez6507 I had friends trying to buy Intel 13th gen _at the peak_ of the degredation fiasco. Had to scare people off from having a BSOD simulator and its an uphill battle convincing people "yes, this AMD CPU is more reliable, cheaper, and just as fast for gaming."

[@AceMcCrank]

I think it comes from the days of software rendering due to how AMD and Intel each slightly differently handle floating points.

[@nengyang1895]

It's due to ignorance and inability to realize ones perception is false. EDIT: Exchange word "realize" with "accept" is the point I was trying to get across.

[@michaeloneill1360]

AMD Rules!! I've been a Loyal Customer since 2009 & I'm Not Going back to Intel Ever!!

[@LeonardChadwickLCC]

I can't express how valuable I find your reporting on the reporting of the reporting of the announcements that were announced in the reports of the announcements. ;-)

[@tpf92]

I'm excited that battlemage is apparently setting the new standard for low-mid at 12GB, should make the ~$200 market far more interesting than its been for the last 5+ years.

[@PopcornLover200]

Too bad intel is winding down GPU :( I hope the info given to Moore’s Law Is Dead won’t turn out to be correct but it kinda sounds like battlemage or celestial(?) will the the last GPUs intel tries to compete with

[@somedude9316]

the $200 only matters if the performance to price is there. As of now, I can buy a 6 year old GPU and get the performance of a "NEW" 400 dollar card. (kinda sorta). I didn't even know that there was a $200 dollar card market in the last 5 years that wasn't just the used graphics cards market lol.

[@nimrodery]

@@PopcornLover200 They shut down the GFX department years ago, GPU development is a subset of AI and other tech (mobile iGPUs for example which are also ARC and AI equipped) so development cost is shared. I'm not 100 percent confident they'll continue releasing dGPUs but it wouldn't be zany if they kept going and released limited runs. AFAIK this gen Intel will be relying more on board partners so we'll see how that goes.

[@tpf92]

​@@somedude9316 Only new $400 that makes any sense atm is the 7700XT, which is a decent amount faster than the 2080 Super and Ti (TPU has the 7700XT 13% faster than the 2080 Ti and 30% faster than the 2080 Super) and even those are $250/$300 on ebay, I can't find anything that makes sense unless you're talking about the 4060ti, which is an absolute joke.

[@richardred4396]

INVEST INVEST INVEST (*) After the next quarter report because its gonna suck (*) Not Investment Advice

[@Stephen_Moran]

Considering the state of the world these days, Steve and GN Hardware News is something I thoroughly enjoy and look forward to. Please keep bringing knowledge and laughter to us, and never stop being you.

[@lamitron]

Great report reporting, Steve. Now, back to you, Steve.

[@davidgoodnow269]

Have you been watching DNN, the Donut News Network?

[@CheradenZakalwe]

Thanks Steve.

[@abduktedtemplar]

Donation sent. Love you guys and the care you have for your fellow humans and local kitties.

[@milesfarber]

Google’s ai citing a source for information that directly contradicts the source should be a lawsuit. If Copilot did this they would NEVER hear the end of it, why is Google allowed to break the law?

[@Olacarn]

Money.

[@sephondranzer]

@@Olacarn Money in lawsuits. Question still valid

[@castor9907]

probably hasn't happened enough to lead to a lawsuit yet, the court system is slower than erratic tech companies

[@cleancryptoverse9645]

The Lawsuits are coming. Unfortunately it will likely be because a person dies that change is enforced. The same should happen to legacy media too, they're just as guilty of the same kinda crap

[@S.Madman]

It was corrected. I am sure it was done manually.

[@pianissimo7121]

Man relatively new to there Reporting of Reporting news. The Jokes are incredible. I had to pause to make sure you were joking sometimes, your delivery was so deadpan, it was great.

[@Ooooooops.]

Rolling any dice on camera and stating the outcome is a vibe I always appreciate. Thanks Steve.

[@jeffreypaul9428]

The 15,000 people who know how Arrow Lake would perform were laid off.

[@jacktherupert]

Just got my Snowflake dice set ordered during the stream, they look amazing, thanks Steve!

[@GamersNexus]

Wow! That was fast. Great to hear they're making their way out so quickly. Thank you for buying them!

[@bluelars5701]

@@GamersNexus They are coming out really fast. I got mine last week. My sister's already been bragging about her cat dice over her coworkers.

[@KenS1267]

@@GamersNexus Just got my Snowflake set that I ordered the first day they went on sale. I love the quality of the dice and the box.

[@yoyo510]

23:05 Congratulations, Silverstone. You've extended the despair of Japanese workers by them having to tell their boss they can, in fact, replace their broken desktops from the 90's with new desktops and still somehow keep using floppy disks in the company 😂⚰

[@memitim171]

It needs a fax machine on top of it to complete the look. 😁

[@RadarLeon]

​@@memitim171needs a good ole 56k modem too

[@TheQxY]

LLMs are non-deteministic. This is one of the many reasons why using them as search engines is questionable at best and a terrible idea at worst.

[@Voyajer.]

LLMs ARE deterministic, that's why they they need a random seed. Set the seed to a fixed number and you can ask the same question all day and it'll just repeat itself.

[@Voyajer.]

Still bad as search engines regardless.

[@Bassalicious]

@@Voyajer. Important detail, thank you.

[@joshua7551]

​@@Voyajer. No actually. The LLM use for Google's AI summary is non-deterministic. While there is pseudo-randomness being used to generate the different results, it is built into the model. This makes the model non-deterministic. You should do some research into LLM determinism and temperature.

[@Healthy_Toki]

@@joshua7551 what would you recommend reading to start?

[@TM1337FalconPunch]

I know we joke about it but Steve really is Tech Jesus. -Magnificent locks -An advocate for the regular folk against the excesses and oversights of the rich and powerful, holding them to account -Spearheads many acts of charity, from cats to hurricane victims -Has built a dedicated following of millions through his teachings, with disciples who help him Except Steve is even better because he likes computers and D&D. 10/10 religious figure, would worship again.

[@InsaneFirebat]

I used my ad blocker to get rid of the "AI" nonsense

[@passerby4507]

Brilliant, I haven't thought to do that yet

[@strangersound]

You can also append the search string to get rid of it.

[@130rne]

Awesome, good tip.

[@gorkskoal9315]

Is that youtube profile pic from the nes metroid? I also, block, the "ai" stuff. it varies from creepy, to annoying, to just wrong.

[@InsaneFirebat]

@@gorkskoal9315 It's from the SNES sequel, Super Metroid

[@theTechNotice]

That AI chapter is scary to say the least....!

[@MrWizardGG]

Its a great time to stop using all big tech services and start hosting your own infrastructure in a homelab

[@herpdederp6186]

I dunno, companies have to put labels on everything because there's always some smart guy out there who sticks a fork into a power outlet, so chances are after a couple of deaths those summaries are also gonna get a big, red "we cannot guarantee the correctness of below summary, please check the sources". Which will then happily get ignored anyway.

[@nebufabu]

I like the aesthetic of that retro case...

[@Bassalicious]

I kinda want an off-white midi tower in a 90s design. Maybe I'll just go raid my dad's basement, try to find that old Terra case I was using as a kid (had a Pentium 2 266 and later a Pentium 3 400MHz). That thing weighs about 25kg bone dry and completely empty. Built like a tank. I might have to hack away at it a little to get modern hardware to fit, but that would be a wicked sick old-school looking sleeper case.

[@cdwilliams1]

Man, I want one! I've bought several retro cases off ebay for projects and messed around with them to fit modern components but I'd love a new off the shelf one!

[@odahithedubious2017]

My very first computer, bought in 1993 at a PX in Germany, was a Packard Hell. It had that same horizontal case arrangement. It was a steel-clad pain in the ass to upgrade, and I was very thankful when I was able to afford a different brand. Have never had one of those type of cases again, and unless there is no other option, I won't do it. Nostalgia is one thing, masochism is quite another.

[@Retro-Iron11]

It's the kind of case that would get me to actually buy a matx board. The fact it has drive bays is a huge deal with the current boring fish tanks that are all clones.

[@phlogistanjones2722]

I LOVE the idea of a "business style" case that more closely follows the stereo component form factor. Big thing is your GPU does not have to hang off the edge of a flimsy bracket. My girlfriend ***HATES*** a computer case in the living room but totally accepts "another stereo component" stacked up under as part of the entertainment center. Keeping ones significant other happy is always a wise choice. I would like to see more options that are actually tall enough to house an upright GPU of the monster sizes we have now.

[@rubendiaz9888]

Received my inductor dice set yesterday and I love them! The dice and box look and feel amazing. When you guys announced them I thought to myself, there has never been a set of dice that speaks to me more as a multifaceted nerd. As a long time electrical technician, computer enthusiast, D&D, pathfinder and MTG player, thank you for designing dice for me 😘

[@GamersNexus]

Wow! That's awesome! And thank you for the extremely kind words. So happy that you felt like it matched all your hobbies and profession! That was also how I felt about them. Thank you!

[@PastorVivonZulul]

What a report about Battlemage, look forward to more future report reporting about the report.

[@Norrie_Rugger]

I like your report on the report

[@damasterpiece08]

Love the reporting of the reports ! Thanks steve !

[@edwardallenthree]

4:00 Steve flexing by reading the original and translating on the fly, and showing the machine translated on the screen. We love you so much Steve!

[@patriciamassie8505]

I want my Gamers Nexus "It's not petty if it is accurate!" shirt. I also want my "It's completely tangential but I want to rant about it!" shirt.

[@CDXXDigital]

Gave to Cat Angels, thank you for exposure for them!

[@AndyViant]

Intel: "You weren't wrong for getting the results you did, but we wish you hadn't"

[@Lolwutfordawin]

Still one of the best megacorp responses to a failure I've ever seen. Unfortunate as it is...

[@phoenixwyllow]

This HW News was a zinger! I needed to pause to breathe between laughs and actually hear the audio! Keep up the great work GN!

[@nashthebaker9338]

Lol, the AI being factually incorrect hit me. So, I work with machines now. I couldn't exactly remember how many thousands of an inch the machine alignment I was doing was supposed to be out by... So I googled it, and the AI overview said 3 - 8 thousands of an inch. The actual spec from my journeyman on site was HALF of 1 thousandth of an inch. I knew 3 - 8 was waaaaaaay too much. 2 thousandth is enough for a high speed machine to shake itself apart and send shrapnel everywhere. I keep a Machinery's Handbook and some other literature in my toolbox at all times now to avoid using google for things like this.

[@jackthatmonkey8994]

Using google for that particular use-case seems sketchy at the best of times..

[@somedude9316]

I find using the AI answers for anything is almost always incorrect, bias, or irrelevant. It may as well just not be there, I already have to spend an hour revising search terms to get better results 5 pages down, the AI answers at the top don't make the searches any faster.

[@nashthebaker9338]

@@jackthatmonkey8994 There are some good sources out there, but Google does its best to bury them, and each year, these good sources become harder to find.

[@marcogenovesi8570]

the "AI" is just a text generator, it does not understand the content of the text it writes. Great if you need to write fiction, useless for anything else

[@nashthebaker9338]

@@somedude9316 It's kinda funny because this crazed AI push by the tech industry is turning me back to books. Perhaps in a few years, I will not even have internet. Lol. The Machinery's Handbook alone makes Google irrelevant for knowledge in the specific field.

[@rcole91986]

As always, some good comedy in your videos, but this one was especially hilarious. And of course, the most informative channel by far. Glad your channel actually does the work unlike most others. Intel must hate you from calling out their constant bs. I see battlemage being a major disappointment as well. I'm so glad I chose a 12700k during last black friday over the newer more shady processors for intel to "fix."

[@samvega827]

Thanks Steve! Always happy for the solid reporting!

[@tengkualiff]

We need competition on the High-End GPUs....

[@GamersNexus]

100%. Can't let it sit uncontested forever.

[@Wootguy238]

I'm looking to get the rumored increased-ram 5080 when it releases. Once AMD gets their market share, i hope they give Nvidia some competition ​@GamersNexus

[@richardred4396]

​@@GamersNexus NVIDIA can die on that hill all by themselves if it was for me Who needs good graphics nowadays if most recent games are just impostors (or bugged to hell) anyway For me the best gaming investment in recent months was a Switch and now after the latest news in regard to PS Portal (which you missed out on) it is going to get Cloud Play as well

[@TheHighborn]

I have a 7900xtx. Very few people did. It's a good GPU. More people are interested in the fake fps of all kinds of dlss instead of real performance. Ray tracing is nice, but at the of the day, a fad. No tangible improvement. People who bitch about GPU prices and bought 4080 instead of the 79xtx have themselves to blame

[@Oneiric_Benevolence]

Dude, if you have the financial luxury where you can buy high end gpus you should feel pretty lucky already. In addition, there is absolutely no card worth buying on the sub 200$ category, unless you are lucky enough to find an rx 6600 for

[@springvice]

Best review, best methodology, best accuracy, best quality, and best English. No question mark.

[@fabrb26]

Coffee ✅ GN HW News ☑

[@LibertyMonk]

AI (LLM) Temperature tuning means that word choice is flexible, and it'll chose the option it has 10% confidence in over the option it has 40% confidence in *some* times. And this makes for better, more natural writing more often. But, picking "2020" when you're 10% sure (because, well, it's a year, and it's close to 2019) instead of "2018" which you're 80% sure (because that's what all but one sources agree is correct) is the kind of garbage only LLM summaries can be. Getting different answers is a feature. It's an integral part of the model. The problem is it's totally willing to pick the 2nd or 3rds best "fact", even if it's very confident that the 1st best is correct. "close enough" is basically fine when you're describing the form and color of some background detail that you're not supposed to closely examine. It's usually better than just a blank wall. But "AI" designers and users need to learn the difference between important factual tokens that *should not* be high Temperature, and syntactic fluff that a synonym for is acceptable.

[@bernds6587]

and that's why I never rely on AI if it's about anything measureable. It is however nice to write a bunch of bla bla if you need some filler text

[@Arcona]

Thanks Steve. AI being confidently wrong is spot on. If I ask chat gpt something somewhat obscure it will give me some BS answer that's completely wrong, confidently like it's fact.

[@Bob_Smith19]

Just like most humans

[@username8644]

Well it's been trained on random answers on forum sites so that's what you get,🤣

[@Arcona]

@@username8644 If that were true it would get basic questions wrong, which it doesn't. It's a learning language model. The issue is when it doesn't have the information it makes something up instead of saying it doesn't have an answer.

[@username8644]

@@Arcona What I said is true. Forum site data has 100% been used as PART of the data to train these algorithms. It was a joke though as obviously it's not the sole source of the data. The main problem is that these models are pretty early stages and need a lot more training.

[@tahrey]

It will also quite often just blithely ignore instructions you give it and do whatever it wants, particularly in terms of running down a more popular path of narrative or reasoning when you're trying to get something more niche or unusual out of it. Combining the two things together leads to a frustrating heap of garbage output, which would probably seem coherent enough to an independent reader at first glance, but is neither what you asked for nor particularly accurate or well written (lots of trite cliches...) when you do any cursory analysis. So far I haven't been particularly impressed with pretty much any AI interaction I've had. Probably there's things it does well but they don't intersect with my own needs and uses. And even where you see, say, someone has made an actually really great piece of AI art ... it turns out that there was an awful lot of actual manual work and tuning and refinement and do-overs (lots of inpainting, combining different LoRAs at differing weights, upscaling, use of eye/hand auto-fixers, depth map and pose/expression editing stages, etc) required to get that result, with what you get from the initial shot being an alright foundation to build upon but complete sloppy junk in its own right. And, well, thats basically the case here I guess. If you treat it like early days Wikipedia and treat the actual copytext with deep skepticism but follow up the sources instead, putting in the extra legwork, it's kind of alright. But if you just take the first stage raw output, it's useless, and you'd have been better off just getting the unprocessed search results in the first place. Sort of like how you'd probably get a better result in terms of time and energy (including expensive electricity) invested vs one-time monetary expenditure in finding the artist(s) the AI was trained from and commissioning them to create the artwork you have in mind... (or likewise a written piece)

[@golfchanl]

You the man Steve, thank you for donating to those Cats!

[@WinterEFG]

There's no way putting "flop" next to an Intel CPU in the thumbnail was an accident..

[@mrmrmrcaf7801]

I prefer to donate locally, I hope you understand...stray animals are everywhere, not only at your place.

[@GamersNexus]

Yes, obviously. Go for it!

[@whitercoin2741]

Great video, having a rough morning, just figured out why my cpu temps were high, it seems my bracket broke. that little tab that hold the cooler down.

[@GamersNexus]

Sorry to hear about that! Fortunately a lot of that stuff is pretty easy to replace once you get the parts in.

[@szymon247]

The humor on this one was excellent. Hope to see exactly more of this in future videos. I had a lot of laugh.

[@Somebody374-bv8cd]

Golden pig upgrade pack is just the literal translation of his name, although honestly it sounds like an inside joke.

[@mitcharbiter3371]

Much respect for helping out Cat Angels! 😻🙏

[@twithnell]

Arrowlake living on thoughts and prayers.

[@TheNerd]

05:54 They got what they deserved after putting their feet in the desk for a decade like "Nah AMD is not good enough we can pretend for a couple years".

[@jsackett42160]

"We'll send a team to investigate"...sounds like a threat 😂😂😂

[@EhNothing]

I love that Steve calls them and tells them about every stray cat he sees. Heart = warmed.

[@LautaroQ2812]

Idea: Everyone who can donate to cat angels, send the amount and just say "Thanks, Steve". I feel that would be positive and wholesome, but also pretty funny as well. "Do we have a Steve working with us here? Why are so many people thanking him?".

[@LessThePattern]

This writing is getting absurdly good, my frens. 13/10.

[@darrk_matter]

So Nvidia’s ‘GeForce Now’ pricing will be similar in function to Intel’s cpu naming. Wonderful

[@marxmaiale9981]

As long as the naming schemas are close enough to each other to apply the same mental logic, the insanity of how they come up with the letters and words aside

[@haukikannel]

Geforse now need to follow GPU prising! 😂 So some increase is just fair… 😂😂😂

[@Arclite02]

So long as it's not similar to 50 series pricing!

[@tim3172]

Oh man, the "naming" is too confusing. I can't simply copy and past to compare because my dumb old brain gets confusing if they're not named Bob, Jim, and George.

[@fromtheotherguy3284]

“Uncharacteristically candid console confirmation” 25:06 You just know they saw an opportunity and took it. Thanks, Steve!

[@isanvicente1974]

As an electronic engineer of 50 years old and HW lover i love this channel (by far best HW review channel out there ), my wife is going to love it too as soon as i show her your Cats Angels donation...

[@GamersNexus]

That's awesome that you're an electronics engineer! Thanks for watching the show!

[@ChristopherHailey]

This week's roundup of news in tech and grammar. These reviews really are consistently good.

[@kizuati]

More Later Now Hardware News! Great to see as always.

[@eg9574]

The Nvidia story intro was top notch literally had me chuckling, thanks Steve.

[@kiryuukazuma04]

7:26 "The launch didn't go as planned" And what did you planned? You planned to just launch and people would just shut up of how your new CPUs is poorly constructed and unoptimized?

[@SnakebitSTI]

Listen, they learned a lot though! Therefore you should buy Intel stock and not think about how they massively messed up their product launch! /s

[@TheKazragore]

If we take it at face value, for argument's sake, then to mine ears it sounds like Intel messed up their specs and guidelines to motherboard manufacturers. If the chips are the same, then the difference between Intel's internal testing and external reviews would be the boards. Either way it's Intel's L, IMO.

[@moguy1973]

It's almost like Intel doesn't test their product prior to launch and just expect people to still buy it even though it's an inferior product just due to the fact it says Intel on it.

[@gorkskoal9315]

cant forget they double as a toaster.

[@FragEightyfive]

16:08 Don't trust any AI results.... This is a glaring issue with the current gen of AI assistants. The current state is mostly un-usable for almost every use case I have tried, so bad that when discussing how to leverage the current generation of AI at work, we came to the conclusion that we would assemble a team to code and train our own AI, which works exactly how we expected - giving the correct answer and if for some reason it does hallucinate we can code that out immediately.

[@jordanjohn3360]

Your coasters are awesome. I have both packs and my parents love them!

[@GamersNexus]

Ha! That's awesome! Thank you (and thanks to your parents for liking them as well).

[@Wootguy238]

Same. Hopefully there is another pack in the future.

[@MajorOutage]

​@@GamersNexusany plans to sell the "I

[@jordanjohn3360]

@@MajorOutage i think they did that when Australia was all on fire

[@MajorOutage]

@@jordanjohn3360 so I missed them? Damn.

[@gloeckle]

rarely I laugh out loud on a youtube video, especially TechNews. But "purchase G-Force Later" cracked me, realy hard. Thank you.

[@Xzavn]

Instead of looking at the AI, I'd still rather look for the wikipedia entry which has a much higher chance of giving a correct information. Although in this case it gives the market release date (19th), not the announcement date (13th). Dates are hard apparently.

[@1pcfred]

wikipedia is woke garbage

[@RayT314]

21:55 "We're committed to accurately reading things with the right breath spacing." 🤣 Thanks Steve for you're commitment.

[@SeanLynchXY]

Thanks Steve! Please buy Snowflake a treat from me and pass the rest on to CatAngelsNC, I don't want to be the guy that ruins the surprise 😻

[@StephenMcGregor1986]

Cool, Intel used it's strategy of "buying hope for the future" from it's GPUs now in it's CPUs. Lets see how it plays out...

[@Viper6332]

if steve ever decided to switch his career he could be a decent comedian

[@cin2110]

Enshittification of geforce now came earlier than I expected they will probably add ads later. Don't give up your ownership in any ways people or this will happen.

[@4.0.4]

I will own everything and they'll be pissed.

[@tim3172]

@@4.0.4 Who is "they"? You currently own nothing. Don't believe me? Stop paying your property taxes and/or income taxes. Watch how long you "own" the things in your possession.

[@4.0.4]

@@tim3172 while taxation may be theft, it was for a long time, and it's a different issue than things like right to repair or subscription fees for everything.

[@Kraaketaer]

Thank you for calling out the AI BS - it's really desperately needed, especially in the tech enthusiast space. Honestly I'm so incredibly tired of how the tech industry has gone from "Hey look at the cool stuff we make, it can do all this incredible stuff!" to "Hey, this year we've tried our best to invent a new 'revolutionary'-but-useless use case for this new expensive hardware we made, please give us more money". I mean, I get it - under capitalism, stagnation is death, and during the past 20 or so years the tech industry has grown from an important niche to dominating nearly every sector of human activity. Which of course means saturated markets and stagnation, plus that all the low hanging fruits for performance have long since been picked. So now they're facing massive stagnation and even regression as all our tech is suddenly pretty much good enough and nobody really wants or needs yearly or even biannual upgrades anymore, and so they keep trying to invent "revolutionary" tech to keep driving new sales, from crypto to VR to blockchain to AR to NFTs to the metaverse to now AI. It's all the same borderline scam, driving corporate FOMO to keep sales high for another year before things come crashing down as product improvements slow and become more expensive, hardware lasts longer, and people start seeing past the hollow promises of new tech.

[@DarkVortex97]

Still wild to me that intel has such a large market share. They've been behind the curve on pretty much all metrics since 2020 atleast

[@memitim171]

You have to remember the vast majority of people don't understand this stuff in the slightest, they just buy the one they saw on TV, or the one the salesman tells them to buy.

[@Bandichar]

@@memitim171 Its businesses, which also happens to be about the only area where intel is at all comparable to AMD. My work recently bought hundreds of 3k+ laptops using intel, driven by corporate of a 2b+ company. I assume this is common.

[@alexandruciordas4941]

wdym behind the curve, up until 7800x3d intel was better for gaming.

[@alsiniz]

@@alexandruciordas4941 Even if we're going to ignore value and power consumption (which are all valid factors for consideration) your statement is inaccurate. In many titles, the 2 generations old 5800X3D from a few years ago still beats Intel's best offerings (even the 14900k) in both FPS and 1% lows while consuming 1/3 of the power and being cheaper. If we factor in value and the price of the components/power consumption then AMD has been competitive long before they brought X3D to the market.

[@memitim171]

@@Bandichar It applies to businesses too, unless it's a tech based business they are just going to buy the machines the salesman tells them to.

[@FilthEffect]

We don't deserve Steve. But Steve deserves us

[@oddbod4442]

Re AI, Large language models deliberately include a randomiser which means that the response will be different at different times for different people. Also the AI summary will likely be generated from the results which are also different for different people at different times. EDIT: soon the results themselves will be AI generated contents so AIs will summarise AIs summarising other AIs

[@Retro-Iron11]

Good thing it's never been real ai and just a fancy named script/database and image recognition software. Heck, they even label fuzzy logic as ai. lol. The real ai is locked up in military research labs.

[@memitim171]

@@Retro-Iron11 It's not locked up anywhere, nobody has yet demonstrated that it's even possible to create actual AI, let alone done it.

[@tim3172]

@@Retro-Iron11 Is it right next to the time machines, unicorns, and UFOs? Or is that a separate building?

[@4Wilko]

Intel + D&D rants, AI rants, and recursion jokes will never get old. The tangential aside jokes were really firing out and on-point today.

[@millies21]

Nvidia GeForce Later(™)

[@Chillax1984]

Anychance of a matx case roundup or something of the sort? Would love to know gn's opinion on a lot of them including the ap201

[@The_Dreadbug]

The future of AI can be seen in the great movie Idiocracy.

[@SithLordAnakin]

You misspelled "The Terminator"

[@NATIK001]

@@SithLordAnakin Nah, we don't have real AI, if we fail to create proper AI and just turn society over to LLMs then Terminator or the Matrix can never happen, we just get stuck in a stagnant and eventually regressive society like Idiocracy.

[@bingo5694]

that battlemage reporting bit was an indictment of the entire internet

[@WarmVoice]

The trinity of Charity, Integrity, D & D.

[@smarouchoc7300]

Dice purchased. Expensive ones, maximize kitty cat donation. I have 6 cats. All indoor. I have an insulated shelter on my back deck with a warming pad in it, in case any strays are caught out as it gets colder (Michigan). Always happy to help the cat rescues!

[@GamersNexus]

Insulated shelter with a warming pad is amazing. That's so awesome of you. I built something similar when I was a kid and it helped many cats through winters. Keep doing what you do!

[@smarouchoc7300]

@GamersNexus and you the same. I also dropped them a straight $10 donation from the link. I have friends that run a shelter by me, gave to them a week ago. Just another Steve doing my part to care for the cats 🤣

[@rodrigofilho1996]

Soon they will make a BIOS update upping the Power and Clocks of those CPUs, 14 gen had that P4 genetics, lots of power and clocks just to keep up. They need that to be competitive with Zen 5.

[@Madmeerkat55]

Come for the Vonnegut reference, stay for the AI rant. Never change GN 💖

[@jvanbelle]

Assuming GeForce NOW isn't lying, 94% being under 100 hours, means that they could safely double it to 200 hours with at worst a 6% increase in server use. Pretty sure they're just trying to sell GeForce LATER. Even assuming that the other 6% are on 24/7, they're only saving (and reducing queue size by) 37% for a pretty big cut in service usability.

[@sirmonkey1985]

gotta make an excuse for GeForce NOW PRO for 200h. then GeForce NOW PRO Ultimate for unlimited.

[@bobson_dugnutt]

No it would be more than a 6% difference. Possibly significantly more. Probably like gym subscriptions the pricing is only feasible because a lot of subscribers forget to cancel or are barely using the service. For example if you had: 94 users averaging 15 hours per month each for a total of ~1410 hours 6 power users averaging 100 hours per month each for total of 600 hours For a total of 2010 hours per month. Now if you double the power users to 200, the total is 2610 hours, which is an increase of around 30%. It's only a 6% increase if you assume the 94% using less than 100 hours are using like, 99.99 hours on average.

[@bobson_dugnutt]

Just for context, on AWS a relatively crappy instance with a Nvidia T4 GPU costs 20 to 50 cents per hour. 20 cents per hour for a machine with a RTX 4080 is relatively cheap.

[@ReflectedRed]

Great video, I really enjoyed it! 😊 Thanks Steve.

[@Phantosh]

Steve, your love for cats and how you support them~ You're the GOAT, brother. God bless you so you can always continue to support them!

[@Ganonne]

Thank you for both the humor and information.

[@DOPES4MAGA]

Thanks Steve. Intel: Our CPUs are broken, please buy them so you can use our broken product. We will fix them at some point but we might not in the meantime please continue to use our broken product. Consumer: Can we get a refund for selling us a lemon? Intel: Why? Our products are great and we promise we should have them fix by time we release the next generation.

[@666dreamboat]

Thankyou for calling the steam deck a little old Steve, I have been trying so hard not to buy one and this is exactly what I needed to hear ❤️

[@VarriskKhanaar]

12:00 Intel is still MARKETING TO US. They need to stop insulting us.

[@whollymindless]

Can we get Hallock a bigger headset?

[@SoranoGuardias]

Gotta hide the gamer dent.

[@AtraxPH]

My OCD kicking in due to the torn blue towel in the background... thanks Steve 🤣😂

[@LilaHikes]

AI is the new GPS.... _"But it told me to drive off a cliff...."_

[@Ozzianman]

Have been multiple times in small towns and rural areas where Google Maps have tried to take me either to a road that is permanently blocked off or doesn't exist anymore. I have tried to report the roads as not existing anymore, but no dice. Maps apparantly want me driving off road or into walls.

[@JazAero]

I'm curious but did you test those dice for randomness? Seems to me like they were "Weighted" especially the one with the little coil inside. I certainly would not use them for gaming. Just saying LOL :-)

[@bernds6587]

yes, they did. Very extensively. There is a video about it, and it is also mentioned on the video about the visit to Wendells space.

[@silkworm025]

I can't wait for the inevitable future of SEO manipulation - AI Overview edition. Where garbage tier articles are written (or generated by another AI) and list thousands of nonsense sources to push their own trusted-by-Gemini factor up and become the new "truth". Heck, we've got another future already in development. At some point the AI's are going to read about their own mistakes, not understand the problem, and double down on old failures. If the AI overview comes and reads this video, it'll just be added as another source that says "The 2700 was released in 2020" Source: Gamers Nexus HW News, 2024.