Hybrid Solutions Ceramic Spray Coating | Griot's Ceramic 3-in-1 Wax | 4 Month Durability Update

[@Codriver72]

These type of follow up videos are so good. There are lots of vids where you se aplication and someone says that they will be keep us as viewers informed about the durability but there are no mor information. Thank you for all the time and effort!

[@WaxMode]

Thanks so much! I enjoy seeing how well the products hold up, but it's definitely tough for someone like me to run pure durability tests without topping, because I'm one of those guys that likes to use a maintenance topper pretty much after every single wash if I wasn't product testing!

[@soapa4279]

The Griots stuff is pretty impressive, for something that literally takes 10-15 minutes to apply to an entire vehicle and you can do once every 4-6 months.

[@WaxMode]

Really solid performance at this rate, fantastic pricing as well for both of them.

[@khyoon14]

@@WaxMode i wonder how well griots would work as a drying aid. Probably not as good as actually applying it on a clean and dry surface and buff.

[@WaxMode]

@@khyoon14 Right, any time you're applying to a wet surface you run the likelihood of diluting the protection that can stick to the surface during the wiping stage. But I would also prefer to use something like Ceramic Speed Shine for the drying aid step as it will be lighter than Ceramic 3-in-1 Wax, and less likely to leave high spot streaking in case you miss any spots or don't wipe it in as thoroughly. Also the Ceramic Speed Shine should act as a better lubricant to help protect against marring during the drying step.

[@bradkrit]

@@khyoon14 I've been told using the Griots ceramic speed shine is a good rinse aid, but I haven't tried it yet. The 3 in 1 might be a bit too much for frequent washing

[@kaicu8733]

Wow. The griots held up pretty good especially the windows. It's a good product for sure.

[@FABAutomotiveDetailing]

I finally tried Griot’s Ceramic 3 in 1 Wax this past weekend and loved it. Good to see it holding up strong for you.

[@WaxMode]

Awesome FAB, looking forward to seeing if you get the same great results for durability!

[@catguy64]

I really like the durability tests. Looking forward to see what Griots has up it's sleeve in terms of new products.

[@WaxMode]

I'm hoping for that full paint coating! Meguiar's has the M788 coating coming out soon, would like to see Griot's jump into the fray as I know a lot of loyal Griot's customers have the experience to run coatings without issues.

[@catguy64]

WaxMode I just saw that, $80. I'd pay twice that. I know it takes awhile for Griots to release products but I appreciate the fact they won't until they're completely satisfied with the performance requirements to meet their standards. When they do I know you'll bring it to us as only you can!

[@chicagomike2111]

Please keep up the durability reviews..

[@damiansutube]

Thanks for these type of real life long term tests. It’s much appreciated.

[@flemmingjensen3202]

Long term durability tests, yes please! 😊

[@WaxMode]

I've got to get one up of the Meguiar's Hybrid Ceramic Liquid Wax!

[@roberty2314]

I have the griots 3 in 1 and I'm impressed with how long the shine and protection lasts if you use it as a stand alone

[@ar15tac]

This is one of my favorite series on KZbin. I know it takes a long time with real world testing... thanks for your efforts. Once I run out of tw hybrid I’ll be changing.

[@WaxMode]

Cheers Nick! If you end up switching to the Griot's I'd love to hear your thoughts on which one holds up better on your paint!

[@JuanPerez-yy5hr]

Great to see someone doing real world testing products Fantastic thank you

[@BB_Detailing_00]

I like durability updates. Surprised Griot's had gone this long. Thanks man

[@WaxMode]

Cheers BB! I was very surprised to see these results out of Griot's as well.

[@jaykid007]

Glad you did the follow up video Waxmode and have to pick up a bottle of the Griots soon. Take care!

[@WaxMode]

Let me know how it holds up for you if you pick it up Jason! This Griot’s is definitely a nifty protectant, very quick bonding and shows some gloss impacts that I’m not seeing from other products.

[@jaykid007]

WaxMode I sure will! Appreciate the feedback and about the gloss .

[@botch3936]

Was just about to recoat my ride with more Hybrid Solutions (after about 8 months) but this has convinced me to pick up some Griot's first. Thanks!

[@WaxMode]

Keep me posted on which one you like better! I haven't heard too much feedback on whether or not most people that have tried both of these prefer one over the other.

[@azrichter]

Thank you for such a straight-forward presentation. Real-world, informative and no blah-blah-blah. It is much appreciated. I recently did 3 older daily drivers and compared Griot's Ceramic 3-in-1, Turtle Wax hybrid ceramic spray (on top of their hybrid ceramic polish and wax) and Griot's Poly Wax. I used them on carefully cleaned and polished clear coats. In terms of appearance and ease of use, Poly Wax is unreal is comes off SO easily. It looks great and sheds dirt like a champ. No basis for durability yet, but this video is surely encouraging. I had to buff both of the spray products a bit to get them glossy---Griot's 3-in-1 being a bit easier to buff clean. Griot's ceramic spray IS insanely hydrophobic! I can "wash" my dusty car with the spot-free rinse at a car wash---everything just comes off clean. My shower doors shed water now, too. These chemists are creating amazing products. Overall...I think that you get a little more for your money with the Griot's products. I've yet to be disappointed in any of them.

[@ElCid_86]

Thanks. I’m a fan of the TW 🐢 products but have not done a long term test without “maintenance” so it’s hard to compare. Griot’s does look impressive.

[@edruiz6364]

Well as most of you know it's been raining every day here in Central Fl. for weeks now so I mostly dry the car in the morning instead of washing it. The TW Hybrid Solutions Wet Wax was applied last month and is holding up beautifully on top of the Ceramic Spray Coating. Upon watching this video I'm kind of curious of trying the Griot's Garage Ceramic 3-in-1 and eventually topping it off with TW Hybrid Solutions Ceramic Wet Wax. Great video as always.

[@WaxMode]

Thanks for the update Ed, glad to hear you're enjoying the Wet Wax as well, it's such a solid drying aid! I will have to try Wet Wax out on top of the Griot's Ceramic 3-in-1 Wax on the test panel to see how they play together for sure.

[@kseries1981]

You should test a top panel (Hood, roof, trunk) instead of a side panel. From my experience, waxes fade faster on top panel.

[@stenblann9784]

Thanks Mode. Longevity updates are awesome.

[@HydraDnB]

Scott HD made a one year Ceramic Spray Coatings test and Griot’s lasted the full test. TW about 6 months. Griot’s is some amazing stuff. Too bad I can’t buy it in my country or anywhere near. Only from USA and the cost with shipping is just not worth it. I could buy a CQ UK + SIC for that price lol. But I’m not experienced with ceramic coatings and don’t have a garage so I ordered TW for 12€. It is worth a try I guess. Anyway keep up the good work brotha! 👌🏻

[@Mark-cw3io]

Thanks for the update! Very impressive, Griots!!!

[@RAM-KINGOFTRUCKS]

Got to try griots..looks to me as well it hung up longer..thanks for the review..

[@PapaSmurf918Detail]

Great update brother!!! Really impressed with that Griots 3-1! TW is definitely fading bug time above that body line... its weird cause we know wet wax is a great maintenance topper for the CSC but Griots... what would you top the 3-1 with??? Lol that's the question that is eating away in the back of my mind!😄

[@WaxMode]

Thanks bud! Speed Shine didn't seem to have any impact on the hydrophobic behavior of Ceramic 3-in-1. Should prolong slickness and tackle through any lighter hard water contamination. I'll have to run Best of Show Detailer on top to see if it covers up the Ceramic 3-in-1 in a future test on the test panel. But Griot's better jump on adding to their lineup, they're late to the party!

[@catguy64]

with 007, it's awesome!

[@robertelliottsr4566]

Top it with the Turtle Wax Wet Wax!

[@PapaSmurf918Detail]

@@WaxMode that was exactly my though was beat of show detailer or best of show spray wax. Definitely keep me posted!!!

[@jaykid007]

Bead maker or showstopper!

[@robertelliottsr4566]

I may try the Griots 3 in 1 Ceramic Wax some time. Thanks for another long term test from these 2 products. I remember you saying in some of your other videos seeing products at their peak performance. That’s what I’m interested in and that’s why I really don’t care how long these products last. I won’t give them a chance to go down this far. I want the peak performance of their characteristics in this order...Gloss, Depth, Ease Of Use, Slickness, Water Sheeting, Water Beading, Price and Longevity. This is why I either reapply or top my protectants every few days or at lest once a week. WaxMode, I know water beading is your big thing. Could you either list or say in one of your future videos what is your product favorite characteristics in your preferred order? Thanks and thanks again for your great videos. I always look forward to them and hearing your (Steve Jobs of the detailing world) voice!

[@WaxMode]

Thanks so much Robert! I agree with you, it pains me to run these types of durability tests where I have to refrain from topping and maintaining the paint on a regular basis. I'm one of those guys that wants to use something on the paint for maintenance every single time I wash it. One product you might like is Polish Angel High Gloss. Very expensive for the amount that you get, but this spray sealant along with their Cosmic Spritz are two of my absolute favorites when we take price out of the equation. Great hydrophobics, very good ease of use, they wipe on/off really well for as thick as their formulas are, and they leave an outstanding glow left behind on the paint. I remember trying High Gloss on my neighbor's Ruby Red Mustang a while ago and it just made that paint pop. Slickness is good, not Bead Maker slick but not bad at all. If you're ever wanting to indulge a bit then High Gloss is one product I would recommend, for me it's one of the most satisfying spray protectants that I've worked with and it's a very unique style of formula, much different than more products out on the market and that uniqueness makes it very attractive for me.

[@scottsigmon926]

This is what real world testing is like. Thanks for the video

[@WaxMode]

Thanks Scott, I appreciate the feedback!

[@glyndonsprofessionaldetail7429]

i like these durability update videos

[@tonymanero5544]

I think if, every 3 months, you do a thorough wash car, and apply either TW, Griots, or another name brand ceramic spray coating, and a 2nd coat next day, you’ll protect your clear coat for years. I also apply a synthetic sealant (not organic like carnauba) before a ceramic spray, and there are dozens of sealants, quarterly the clear coat will be even more protected for years.

[@keithc4252]

I wonder if the best combination is then Griots 3-in-1 topped with Ceramic Wet Wax 🤔

[@WaxMode]

Could work great, I haven't tried this yet on top of the Griot's. I'll have to pull them out and see how they do together.

[@gambietti]

Glad to see griots hanging tough. I just applied that on a daily driver that is parked outside 24/7. What about topping it with beadmaker? That seems to play nice with everything

[@WaxMode]

Bead Maker I haven't tried on top of the Griot's yet but I'm thinking about trying it out. Bead Maker can be tricky, I've seen it reduce hydrophobic performance on top of fresh products like Polymer Net Shield and Fusso Coat, while on the coatings like Blackfire Pro, CQUK 3.0, and CQuartz Tio2, it works absolute magic and plays nicely.

[@gambietti]

@@WaxMode interesting. I plan on trying it out. I also just tried out jescar bead-it as a stand alone sealant. I was impressed with the wet look high gloss. I have not tested its hydrophobic properties yet. Photos on my ig acct @gambietti71 keep up the great videos

[@mattmixell554]

Looks like the UV resistance on the turtle wax is low. The sun is killing the upper portion above the crease line.

[@gipstetz6720]

Interesting vid. Great info. Thanks for posting. Was wondering what pressure washer you use. Pretty obvious it's not gas. Seems very quiet and does a nice job. Thanks again.

[@WaxMode]

Thanks Gipstetz! I turn the ambient volume noise way down on the video during the editing, otherwise it is quite loud. But I'm just running a standard Ryobi 1700psi 1.2GPM unit with some upgrades from Obsessed Garage. I have an MTM Hydro SGS-28 Gun with the built in swivel, and the Kobrajet 3/8" high pressure hose with all the quick disconnects to transform the utility of the pressure washer, works great now! If you're in the market for a good low priced electric pressure washer, check out Landon's videos at Aqualux Auto Detailing, he's got some great videos out showcasing some high flow washers which is what you want if you're running a foam cannon, this one looks like an outstanding unit that flows around 1.8GPM, check Landon's video out here showcasing it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZnSUoaWHfMhpa9U

[@jmmustangs3078]

I’m impressed myself with the GG 3-1 wax used it for a few months myself and my test at 6 weeks it was like newly applied beading

[@brandondavis6801]

What an amazing comparison. Just what I was looking for. Thank you!

[@TechJay86]

Waxmode!! What’s the best two spray wax’s in you’re opinion for uv protection?

[@seanmcandrew7363]

How does the Griots compare to the Ethos Ceramic Wax Pro. Have you reviewed that? Of course I want good longevity but really want something to make my new black truck with metallic flakes pop. Both seem to have really good reviews but when it came to the Ethos - lots of reviewers really emphasized the depth and clarity. Thanks for any insight you can offer. Trust your judgement and testing. REALLY appreciate it!

[@johnketuroskey6293]

morning...u and brian(apex) present your reivews in a first class informative format. suggestion for another head to head would be jescar bead it vs Wolfgang uber ceramic spray....or similiar

[@WaxMode]

Thanks so much John, I love Brian's videos, he's a great guy and I was lucky to meet him when Turtle Wax hosted their event in Scottsdale! His video on Bead-It showcased some really good performance, and it could be the perfect topper for Power Lock Plus. I'm very interested in trying some of that out in the future, I've been wanting to recommend a solid option for all the guys that are using Power Lock as their main protectant that could possibly mesh really well with it.

[@snail415]

Just put 3-in-1 over FK1000P. I use the latter often and feel like it almost reduces gloss….despite being an excellent sealant. Griot’s really added some pop to the equation. Excellent product.

[@brettiansmith1758]

Bro, awesome video. What I've maintained my 🐢 Turtle wax ceramic spray coating is Meguiars hybrid ceramic spray detailer. Amazing combo!

[@WaxMode]

Meguiar's Hybrid Ceramic Detailer is definitely one of my newest favorites! It's such a good product and exactly what I was looking for as a consumer product that I can use as a universal coating topper for maintenance. I'll have to try it out on the Hybrid Solutions Ceramic Spray Coating on the test panel. Thanks for the suggestion!

[@RaldasDetails]

Great video man as always!! 👍🏼👍🏼

[@WaxMode]

Thanks Tony!

[@UKSportsFan]

Hey WaxMode, do you have Jescar Bead-it SiO2 Spray Wax Coating to try? Brian from Apex reviewed it recently and it looks really promising. I'd be really interested in its durability, so if you could test that one that would be great.

[@WaxMode]

Saw that video Brian put up, he always knocks it out of the park with his tests! Bead-It looks like it did a great job and I'm definitely interested in trying it out as a product to pair up with and possibly use as maintenance on top of a base layer of Power Lock.

[@campnut6076]

Good comparison. What's that brown stuff at the bottom of the door? I'm from PA and that's normal here but I thought Florida cars didn't rust. Guess there is nowhere to escape it.

[@nicorallysport]

Griot's 👍 👋🇫🇷 I would like to test it as a top coat on carpro CQuartz lite, but griot's products are hard to find in France! For the moment I fell in love with CQuartz lite and meguiar's hybrid ceramic detailer as a top coat !!

[@WaxMode]

Cheers Nico! I'd stick with CQuartz Lite and Hybrid Ceramic Detailer all day. Perfect combination because HCD is not too heavy and it has much higher hydrophobic potential, it matches the great hydrophobics of Lite perfectly and won't reduce the performance at all.

[@nicorallysport]

@@WaxMode OK thank you very much 👍 👍 👍 👍

[@TheDex302]

Great video! Love these long term reviews. I was really considering the TW but now I’m rethinking. Have you done a durability test on the last coat? I would love to hear your review of their Black Ice.

[@WaxMode]

Thanks Seventh! I haven't put TLC2 up on one of the test drivers yet, I'm really debating what I want to put on that rear quarter section area on this silver BMW. I might split that in half and run the new updated Seal N Shine and TLC2 side by side with each other. I haven't got a hold of Black Ice yet.

[@TheDex302]

WaxMode I actually did my whole truck in 2 coats of Black ice. It goes on super easy! After the seven days of cure time, I’ll be topping it with TLC 2, and AMP. I’ll let you know how it lasts.

[@thinkforyourself5672]

The Iced seal and shine is no joke for a $10 product. It works really well. Personally I suggest a coat of that and then immediately apply a coat of the Iced Spray Wax. It's a fantastic combination

[@jeffmartin7003]

Very good and informative videos on these two products, excellent!

[@lan7105]

yo lavo mi carro semanalmente con shampoo ph neutro cuánto me durará el producto en el carro ???

[@thinkforyourself5672]

The Griots is super durable, beads really well and makes the car much easier to clean but I really don't get much slickness from it. I may apply a topper to it. I just don't knew what to use. I also have their ceramic detailer and feel like it gives me more gloss than the 3-1. Maybe I'll try that

[@kenlawton1531]

If only Griots was readily available in my country!

[@Garlander]

Griots stuff is always solid but a little pricey for some things. I might pick up a bottle of this, nice review as always. 👍

[@WaxMode]

It can quickly add up, once you go down the Griot's route it's tough to stop because they have such a vast selection, I get their catalog in every month and love going through it. Their Fast Correcting Cream and Correcting Cream polishes are an absolute must have though. Some of the best smelling high quality abrasives that I've ever worked with, I've been loving their G9 polisher as well!

[@Garlander]

Lucky for me I'm 10 minutes from their store in Tacoma, WA and yes they have a excellent selection of products.

[@cloudtoclear]

can you do a durability test comparison between seal n shine & griots 3 in 1?

[@omranmkv]

Impressive video, did coat the glass also or only door panels?

[@groundcontrol6876]

Man, I'm not interested in these products at all but I just can't help but watch all your uploads cuz they're so enjoyable. I got some Overcoat V3 by the way! Didn't really like using it dry. It seems to be a very similar formulation to wetcoat, haven't tried spraying and rinsing to see if it works but I think that it might. (not that you'd ever want to do that with something this expensive)

[@WaxMode]

Thanks so much Andres, let me know how well that latest batch of Overcoat holds up!

[@groundcontrol6876]

WaxMode 👍🏼

[@scenicroadwaysyt]

Awesome video. So far my favorite spray Si02 is Polish Angel Cosmic Spritz... due to the amazing hydrophobics, gloss and ease of use. Does the Griots compare well to the Polish Angel, considering the considerably lower price? As much as I love the PA, I need to find more affordable product. Griot's looks like it may be the winner.

[@WaxMode]

Polish Angel is still one of my absolute favorites. High Gloss and Cosmic Spritz are perhaps some of the most satisfying spray sealants to work with because of just how well they buff into the paint and how clean of a wipeoff you get with them, despite them being significant sprays with thicker formulas. They will be more hydrophobic than both Hybrid Solutions and Griot's Ceramic, but Griot's may outperform them in longevity without toppers. Griot's is not quite as easy to work with compared to them, it's more prone to streaking. I have not found a direct substitute for High Gloss or Cosmic Spritz. I would actually say the TiO2/SiO2 blend of Mothers CMX Ceramic Spray Coating is probably the closest in the consumer market to the Polish Angel formula, but it's not quite as refined, and doesn't have the same hydrophobic durability. When it's fresh though it will give that awesome Polish Angel style hydrophobics. A cheaper version of Cosmic Spritz and High Gloss is perhaps the unicorn that I'm looking for.

[@scenicroadwaysyt]

@@WaxMode It really is amazing stuff. Even when i over apply it (all the time), it just blends right in and cures into this amazing glossy shell on my white cars. It's almost as if it has filling properties too.

[@chrismurphy783]

Great showing by Griot's. How is that when applying in the sun?

[@WaxMode]

I wouldn't recommend it for direct sunlight, I've gotten away with it on the test panel but you can run into streaking if you're spraying it on hot paint and trying to work like that across the entire car. Turtle Wax you can run a damp microfiber wipedown and get any unevenness to buff off clean in direct sunlight, but the Griot's when it streaks it can be a bit more difficult to level out. Works great out of the sun, haven't had issues yet.

[@TheChemoDoc]

Thank you very much for this durability update. In this video, you said the GG 3-in-1 ceramic is the best spray ceramic you have ever tested. Did you mean that it is even better than TLC2?

[@WaxMode]

Hey ChemoDoc, so far the Griot's Ceramic 3-in-1 Wax has held up the best hydrophobic durability out of all the consumer ceramic sprays that I've tested. So that includes Meguiar's Hybrid Ceramic Wax, Turtle Wax Seal N Shine and their Ceramic Spray Coating, and Mothers CMX. The first formula of Adam's Ceramic Spray Coating I was able to get a year of durability of that product on the paint. With The Last Coat V2, I just put this on the rear quarter panel of this test car next to the latest update of Seal N Shine to see how both of those hold up in durability. I'll keep you guys posted on update videos for that durability test in the future!

[@seanmcandrew7363]

How is the gloss and depth of the griots compared to some of the others you mentioned?

[@jamiesdetailingden6620]

I’m very happy with the Griots 3 in 1 so far, very easy to use, I’ve also got the new TW ceramic wet wax and am not a big fan of it, based on application alone!

[@WaxMode]

Appreciate the feedback Jamie!

[@johnmiceter]

Do these spray on ceramic coatings protect your paint from swirl marks like some proper ceramic coatings or are they mainly just for hydrophobic?

[@mujjuman]

Disappointed in the turtle wax. I expected more! Thanks for the videos and the long term durability tests

[@WaxMode]

I'll keep you posted, Turtle Wax is still holding up well on the Honda paint that's going on a few months now next to the Ceramic Polish & Wax. But the Griot's on this BMW paint is really performing at a high level!

[@mujjuman]

@@WaxMode Thank you! I am looking forward to it

[@klasseact6663]

I just placed an order with Griot's today and one of the items I picked up was this 3 in 1 Ceramic spray wax, so the review was very timely. I just did a massive detail on my 2018 Hyundai Elantra Sport and for the LSP I applied 1 coat of TAC System Power Plus Sio2 paint coating and wanna use the Griot's Garage 3 in 1 Ceramic spray wax as a monthly topper. Yeah, I know I dont need it monthly but you know me, LOL. What do you think of this and/or Turtle Wax Ice Seal and Shine as monthly toppers ontop of the coating here🤔 Thx👍👍

[@WaxMode]

Cheers Klasse Act! Let me know how that Power Plus coating holds up for you. As far as coating maintenance, I wouldn't prefer to use either the Griot's Ceramic 3-in-1 Wax or Seal N Shine in the short term. These two are both on the heavier side of things, and they're not the most hydrophobic, so you should notice them covering up the performance of the coating a bit if it's a very hydrophobic coating, especially with Seal N Shine. Griot's Ceramic Wax didn't want to go on as nicely on top of the Adam's Ceramic Spray Coating section that I had on the paint, so I did notice streaking when trying to buff it off. I'm much more likely to run lighter toppers on the coating, or something in the middle. I'm still very much on the Meguiar's Hybrid Ceramic Detailer bandwagon for maintenance with the coatings. More hydrophobic potential compared to Griot's and Seal N Shine, but light enough to not run interference from what I've seen so far.

[@klasseact6663]

@@WaxMode thank you for the input. I might use then Griot's Garage 3 in 1 on the glass because my glass coating is TAC System Raincoat. I've used the Power Plus before but I would always end up topping it with everything, LOL. My car will soon be outside 24/7 pretty soon so the coating will be getting a work out!

[@beerme_2]

Thanks for the video. I am glad that I picked up the Griots I have yet to use it,,

[@Carlos.Rivera]

Do you think Griots will launch it on paste wax? Like Best of show wax on both forms

[@WaxMode]

I hope so! I love their Best of Show and Premium Carnauba paste waxes, would love to add another one to the collection! Really hoping for a very quality full paint coating that is user friendly and super slick to work with.

[@gamiteman]

awesome, thanks for the update!

[@onrdetailingnews802]

Your bmw like mines and my 528e i had back years ago i had 6 88 528e bmw they nice and 2 525 95 bmw great video buddy tfs

[@WaxMode]

Thanks ONR! Love these older BMW's, we had a 88 528e a few years ago, I've had my 88 535is for over a decade now, bullet proof engines. This silver one is a 92 535i, everything is running great and that's why I don't want to get rid of them, despite them having rust and the paint in total failure mode, they are still great drivers.

[@clifhellner1493]

With all the spray ceramics on the market, what would be the point in using something that costs $50+ and takes longer to apply??

[@WaxMode]

Definitely a good question, especially when you're keeping up on wash maintenance and making sure that the protection remains topped up, these products will definitely be able to provide awesome performance until your next polishing session. But with the full blown ceramic coatings, they have a much more significant form of longevity, a much greater hydrophobic performance, a much thicker layer of protection left behind, and as a result likely a much greater resistance to UV bombardment and degradation. If the protection of the paint is my highest priority, I'm always going to reach for the full blown paint coatings to provide that base layer foundation of protection. For me, that additional time and expense to apply a coating like CQUK 3.0 is well worth it for its features, given that I already have the experience and polishing tools needed to perform the prep myself.

[@clifhellner1493]

Awesome. Thanks for the in depth reply. Much appreciated!

[@calgaryjsc]

Your pressure washer sounds so quiet! What brand of electric pressure washer were you using in this video?

[@WaxMode]

Editing wizardry, I perform the voice separately so I’m able to reduce the sound of the pressure washing during the edit to make sure it doesn’t drown the voice out. It was a standard Ryobi 1700 unit, with a Kobrajet 3/8” hose and an MTM Hydro SGS-28 gun. These accessories make these cheaper washers so much more convenient. I hear the Active 2.0 pressure washer is a fantastic unit with the best pump in the under $400 category, not sure on the sound but the Adam’s unit seems to be a quieter option that I’ve heard.

[@HeavyProfessor]

great channel. Didn't try other of these, but I was NOT impressed with the ceramic wet wax. Hydrophobicity was gone in a week. Gloss was good but only for a few days.

[@WaxMode]

Thanks for the feedback! Are you working with Ceramic Wet Wax by itself or are you pairing it up on top of a base protectant? Ceramic Wet Wax is more a refreshment for me, I wouldn't prefer to use it by itself and I think it would be typical to have it diminish by itself more rapidly unless you're using it to top Ceramic Spray Coating on a regular basis. I greatly prefer Wet Wax as opposed to their Ceramic 3-in-1 Detailer. The Hybrid Solutions system you're not going to see the Fusso Coat level beading out of it, but from what I've seen the Ceramic Spray Coating and Ceramic Polish & Wax can hold up in durability so long as you're not expecting crazy hydrophobic monsters. Keep them refreshed with Ceramic Wet Wax and you've got a system that should easily get you until the next decon/polishing session.

[@sergiobarraza1806]

Awesome video. How long you wait to apply a second coat of any ceramic spray coatings?

[@WaxMode]

Thanks Royal! I waited 4 days before washing the paint with Reset and then applying the second coat on top of their sections in this test. I would recommend to apply the second coat of any ceramic spray coatings after your first wash after giving the products a couple of days to cure on the paint. If you keep the paint inside in the garage and it stays clean, should be fine to apply a second coat after 24 hours.

[@MAXIMILAN2QAT]

Megs UQW Vs Megs UQW new formula any plan?

[@WaxMode]

I love the new Opus sprayer top on the new UQW for sure, just always enjoyed working with that sprayer and it's crazy to see Turtle Wax switch away from the Opus sprayer and then Meguiar's switch into that sprayer. Definitely need to run more testing on the new UQW and UQD formulas. Currently on a gloss escapade on the test panel with Poorboy's Black Hole Glaze. Really surprising results to see Black Hole actually improving the gloss of what the abrasive was leaving behind after washing Black Hole.

[@arthurlekov2947]

Amazing that the griots is so long lasting so far and is this 3 in 1 griots good for topping off a ceramic coating and rejuvenate it?

[@WaxMode]

I had troubles getting the Griot's Ceramic 3-in-1 Wax to level out well on top of the older Adam's Ceramic Spray Coating, it left behind some streaking. This Griot's is a significant protectant, so I prefer those lighter toppers that are going to allow the coating to maintain its own properties rather than being covered up with the performance of a heavier product like this Griot's.

[@arthurlekov2947]

WaxMode Thank you Waxmode, it was very well explained. I am still debating on which silica spray I should use to use after my maintenance wash on my ceramic coated vehicle. The ceramic coating that I am using is 3.0 cquarts edition and I am learning as I go on because I am 15 and don’t have that much experience since I started at age 13. And thank you again.

[@barrybij8079]

maybe a dumb question. would you consider griots 3-1 as a drying aid and add to protection during a maintenance eash?

[@WaxMode]

Hey Barry, I would not prefer to use the Griot's as a drying aid, it's a bit heavy for me to fill that role although you could get away with it in some situations without problems. Griot's can be really funky, it can wipeoff cleanly in controlled situations, but you can definitely run into trouble out in the sun or in the heat when working across an entire car on certain paints. For drying aids I like much lighter style of sprays that are easy to wipe clean in less than ideal situations like Wet Wax.

[@stvcrgy55]

Looks like the Gruots is some pretty good stuff

[@XxVendetaxX1]

Hey waxmode, I need some advice. I remember Brian from apex detail explaining how he stores gyeon can coat or carpro lite but I can't find the video. Can you give me some advice on how to store them once they've been opened? I remember something about a fridge and that's it.

[@WaxMode]

Zymol are the only waxes that I actually store in the fridge, the rest I keep indoors at room temperature including the coatings that I've opened up. So far the only coatings that have visually gone bad was the first formula of the Blackfire Crystal Coat, the McKee's 37 SiO2 Enhanced Coating, and the first formula of DPC Shield. Everything else, some of which I opened many years ago like Gyeon Mohs, Prime, One, CanCoat, and Gtechniq CLS, EXOv3, CarPro CQUK 2.0 and 3.0, Lite, they never crystallized in the bottle or gelled up. CanCoat you want to take that sprayer out and reseal the container with the original hard cap, never let the sprayer sit inside and I'd clean the sprayer out after each use. Other than that I might pull some of the older coatings out on the test panel and see if they're still usable. So I'm not sure on the shelf life improvement of refrigeration.

[@XxVendetaxX1]

@@WaxMode thank you sir. I really am grateful for you and the other detailers I watch.

[@austinbentley2760]

WaxMode yes please test old coating

[@keithfirebird7618]

Good review Kyle 👍

[@WaxMode]

Thanks Keith, glad you enjoy the videos!

[@keithfirebird7618]

@@WaxMode You're welcome....yes I do 😎

[@hmoobeveryrace9]

Is griot 3 in 1 user friendly in the sun? If not what the best for apply in the sun. Currently using meguoar express spray wa

[@BWBW247]

I would not recommend hybrid ceramic wax in direct sunlight. At least not the first coat. With this product (and meguiars hybrid ceramic wax) the first coat is put on, like normal wax, when the car is dry and requires buffing. This in direct sunlight will cause swirl marks and hazing. However, second coats to keep the hydrophobic aspects can be put on when the car is wet and I would say is generally okay in the sun. I think the best product to use in direct sunlight is touchless sealants like CarPro Hydro2. They don’t require the first coat like the hybrid ceramic waxes do, instead you spray on and wash off. It clings on the paint without having to touch it.

[@WaxMode]

I would not recommend the Griot's in direct sunlight. You can get away with it in some situations and on some paint, but other times it can bite you and lead to streaking. Anytime I'm working in the sun I want something light, and I want to spray directly into the towel and spread and wipe with a separate dry towel, and never spray directly onto the hot paint itself. I've had good results using a variety of different products like this, including the new Meguiar's Ultimate Quik Wax and Quik Detailer, Hybrid Ceramic Detailer, Ultimate Fast Finish, Ice Spray Wax, Bead Maker, CG V7, ect. I don't like to use any of the heavier ceramic spray protectants in direct sunlight if I can avoid it.

[@cindykeselowski899]

So which product do you recommend?

[@WaxMode]

Both are capable, I think Griot's has the potential for the best durability between the two of them, but I've gotten months and months of good durability out of both. I would lean towards Griot's and pick up their Ceramic Detailer to use for regular maintenance, while applying Ceramic 3-in-1 Wax once every few months.

[@halamadrid6733]

Hard to choose, I've seen so many videos comparing both sprays and on some videos TW is clear winner and on others Griots is clear winner

[@WaxMode]

Me too, I’ve seen both go the distance in some tests and then others they were hit hard in a few months. Overall, I think the maintenance schedule of topping these up after every few months is still key to keeping their performance up to par. They still aren’t true coatings, but very capable spray sealants. And I prefer this Turtle Wax Spray Coating compared to their latest Graphene Flex Wax or Seal N Shine.

[@kentsou399]

Can I use the TW as a drying aid?

[@WaxMode]

Grab the Hybrid Solutions Ceramic Wet Wax as a drying aid. This Ceramic Spray Coating is heavier, you need to manage overspray more effectively and because of that, I don't prefer to use it often as a drying aid. You can get away with doing so, but Wet Wax is a much better option for that.

[@PeteyMcSavage]

Wowo crystal seal our European brothers love the product and are very loyal to it. I heard the one currently for sale is the 3rd version it applies almost like 22PLE finitura that’s what it reminds me of

[@WaxMode]

Would love to get my hands on some 22PLE in the future to play around with. Still eyeing Crystal Sealant and Show Stopper, currently waiting on TAC Systems Shinee Wax to arrive but they may be delayed due to Covid.

[@PeteyMcSavage]

WaxMode I have a bunch of unique things I have purchased maybe I can send you some. I message you on Autopia I’m Williamwallace on there we talk recently in private messages I’m looking to try IGL premier maybe we can do trade.

[@mrguillaa6601]

Nice video ! TW is so overhype ! S&S lasts only 2 months and same here with the hybrid ...

[@WaxMode]

Thanks Mr Guillaa! I still like the Hybrid Solutions system and both the Ceramic Polish & Wax and the Ceramic Spray Coating are holding up great on the other test car in their durability tests. But Griot's is definitely showing a special performance on this BMW paint for sure, they did a great job on this formula to get it to be as durable as it is.

[@ph0bolus]

next durability test should be on the trunk and hood.

[@WaxMode]

ph0bolus Not possible, clearcoat is completely toast on all horizontal panels.

[@ShineYourLightDetailing]

Don’t top the turtle wax with anything please. Let them both run on their own, thanks!

[@henryfreeman6113]

Check out my 1 month durability video on lithium ceramic slam vs turtle was ceramic spray coating

[@WaxMode]

I want that Ceramic Slam and Color Crush! I just topped the Seal & Squeal section yesterday with Luster Lube, looking forward to seeing how that plays together.

[@henryfreeman6113]

WaxMode 👍

[@MikesAutoDetailing]

Great video

[@lamb88ert]

Checkout Griot’s Best of Show Detailer....Super impressed with it. Reminds me of bead maker with more gloss

[@WaxMode]

Huge fan of Best of Show Detailer! It's got that type of raspberry scent, very easy to work with, I'll have to check to see how it plays on top of Ceramic 3-in-1 Wax in the future.

[@lamb88ert]

@@WaxMode same here. Just did a friends Acura w griots 3n1...plan on trying the BOS detailer on it next time I see it. BOS looks insane on top of collinite 845

[@PapaSmurf918Detail]

Smurf FIRST!!!

[@WaxMode]

Hank had you beat by two seconds!

[@PapaSmurf918Detail]

@@WaxMode nooooooo!!!😭😭🤣🤣

[@GainingDespair]

I don't really know how to feel, nothing against the review but comparisons for these two seem to be so contradictive across the board. For some the Griots does very well for others it does poorly (in terms of longevity). Same with the Turtle Wax there just seems to be a unknown variable which largely effects both. I've been scratching my head over it and I don't understand why. I don't believe anyone is lying nor do I feel anyone has a reason to lie it's just .. these two can be a coin flip as to which will preform a good bit better than the other you don't see this very often with products. It's mostly a yes or no type of answer really just definitely but not the case with these two. I almost wonder if it's the rejoin they live in which is effecting the results, I've also wondered if one just had a bad batch at some point too. For every good 1-2 month review of Turtle Wax there is a bad one same applies to Griots. User application can only play so large of a roll but really it just stumps me as to why so many people have contradictive results.

[@WaxMode]

There's a ton of variables at play when it comes to product durability, it's impossible to determine which ones have the highest relevancy and significance when it comes to answering why one is getting better results compared to another. This is one of the reasons why I'm running the Hybrid Solutions Ceramic Spray Coating on the blue test Honda, so that I can cross reference the results between the two different test cars. All cars have a wide variety of different types of paints and clearcoats, you've got some paints that are soft, hard, medium, sticky, etc. Not all clearcoat is of the same chemical composition, and I theorize that even the base composition of the clearcoat itself can have a significance in allowing protectants to bond more effectively to it. Then you have the healthiness of the paint layer that can have significance, and this is actually the biggest determinant in the short term performance of the products that I test. Any clearcoat that is showing oxidation or hasn't been polished in a while will never be able to allow proper bonding of the protectants on top to their highest levels. Related to paint healthiness, if I take two of the same exact cars that were painted one right after another at the factory with the same exact paint, and yet one of the owners garaged kept their car and maintained it properly, while the other owner allowed it to sit in the Florida sun unprotected, or had negligent detailers buff off 75% of the clearcoat overtime and remove that built in UV protection in that paint layer, and then I go and prep those cars the same exact way and apply the same protectants on top and allow them to go through the same durability test outside 24/7, I theorize we would see a drastic difference in the durability of the protectants. Then you have the different levels of prepwork that users are performing, the different environments and driving conditions and exposure to elements that cars are put through, different soaps and concentrations used for wash maintenance, how often maintenance is performed, all of these could have some input into the end results for the actual durability of the protectants. The best that I can do is prepped the paint that I have access to in the best way that I can, and just showcase the results so that we can add one more statistic to the list of different experiences. But I think the take away from these tests, is with reasonable amount of prepwork you should be expecting months of durability with these spray protectants. If you're washing paint regularly and maintaining often, you've got to go with the product that gives you the properties that you want to see in the short term, or one that is easier for you to work with compared to the other.

[@tonyjoe5707]

If it's so easy to use, I'd top Griots with Griots every other wash.

[@WaxMode]

That will definitely get the job done. I like to use something after every wash so the lighter spray toppers fill that role, and then reapply the heavier spray protectants every once in a while would be my option. I need to get my hands on their latest Ceramic Speed Shine to see how well it does after every wash. Just be careful on hotter paint or in direct sunlight with Ceramic 3-in-1, I’ve seen some guys have slight high spot marks where the product cured unevenly.

[@tonyjoe5707]

@@WaxMode I don't think we can't get speed shine in the UK yet. It seems cheap enough in the US, but then a lot of their products do until they come over

[@alangligor]

Hi buddy ! Good content and demo!! I’ve bought turtle wax products..🙁🙁🙁and this one its bad.. Good marketing for this product but poor quality... Disappointed Keep it up! Ps I prefer meguiars!!😉😉

[@WaxMode]

Thanks for your thoughts DQ! I still like the Hybrid Solutions system, on the other test car it's definitely holding up well, not crazy hydrophobics but the performance is still lasting.

[@memem-32323]

Turtles spray contains Methyl Alcohol, so be careful when using it Because of this ingredient, it is prohibited to import and sell in S.Korea.

[@HeavyProfessor]

Honestly, I want to like turtle wax, but they just suck. only good thing (haven't tried it) is ice seal n shine.

[@AdonisDetail]

Griots blows away TW in performance.

[@keithfirebird7618]

Very tired and ....dented 😉

[@WaxMode]

This car would be a PDR apprentice's dream to play around with! After watching Obsessed Garage's recent video with Mike from The Dent Company work on his M3, the dents on this car stand out 10x as much now!