Hydralisk Micro vs Speed Zealots - Shine vs Stork

[@taylorolson6228]

13:48 zerg putting units behind the minerals to abuse the protoss is karmic justice xD

[@Zraknul]

Zerg has finally evolved to units behind mineral lines. 😂

[@briancorbett3600]

Anytime I see Shine playing I get literal chills. Win or lose he is always incredible to watch - his hold position lurkers vs Mong a couple ASLs ago, was incredible, as was his muta harassment into lurker drop knocking out Royal in Rd 24

[@Dziaji]

he had a really good guardian rush vs light a couple ASLs back too, but light somehow survived and won with 1 base production.

[@briancorbett3600]

Sick! do you remember the season?@@Dziaji

[@Dziaji]

@@briancorbett3600 I can't remember exactly. I would guess it was 3 seasons ago. Basically Shine did incredible muta micro in the beginning of the game. He kept going in Lights main and getting scvs and was expertly picking off straggling marines and basically kept Light's marine count near 0. Light was barely able to survive that, but then Shine made a few guards, and had hydras and lurkers under them and was able to kill Light's natural, and it looked like it was going to be game over, but somehow Light was able to siege some tanks and use wraiths to keep baiting Shine's ground units up the ramp, and was able to slowly pick off all the guards, and unfortunately, shine never used that massive advantage to get another base or tech to defilers, so a couple tanks and wraiths and vessels were basically able to kill Shine's entire army. Shine must have forgot the rule of finishing a Brood War game when you are way up: "Never try to push up the ramp in the main to finish the game. Always get another base and tech up". All he needed was like 2 dark swarms to end the game, but he kept trying to poke in with guards Honestly he probably could have ended the game with a few queens too. Light really put on a masterclass of how to get the most out of your units.

[@cl8804]

just horrible control, sadly

[@andreluiskarpinski732]

Literally chills with the zerglings conga line!

[@The_SOB_II]

Nice game. Thanks for casting. I enjoyed it using various organs in my nervous system

[@adriansemones]

'preciate ya. Love watching rts and the skill challenge it provides

[@jambootful]

Good game your commentary really highlights the strategy and micro decisions that are being made by the players. Fantastic cast as always artosis

[@phoenixlich]

This is why Aiur fell

[@RiotDuel_Wisdom_and_Eternity]

"Hey guys" and "Artosis here" sounded like two different personalities 😂. High tone vs low moody tone.

[@fencserx9423]

The power of great macro on full display here

[@Rethaxian]

This game felt like a back alley brawl. Complete with the DK Shank of desperation while the zerg hydra busts.

[@benjaminhuver1657]

Really great game! Had me on the edge of my sit at the end. Thanks for the cast!

[@joelb1299]

Protoss wasn't ready for this one. Maybe time for some Qbert instead.

[@BreakTheIce222]

A hatchery tier unit that deals explosive damage, attacks ground and air, is ranged, and only 1 supply. Broodwar Hydras were exquisite.

[@andreluiskarpinski732]

The head of the swarm! Zerglings are the claws!

[@ivankuzin8388]

That's the beauty of BW - superb unit, but you turn your head away for a second, you make one mistake, and all your hydras are gone to a few well-placed psi-storms/ reaver shots/ mines/ tanks, and you lose.

[@fluffydestroyer8336]

it dealing explosive damage is a weakness, they have less dps than marines against small units (but against shields and large units they absolutely shred)

[@BreakTheIce222]

@@fluffydestroyer8336 not a weakness, allows them to go up against armored/large units at hatchery tier itself, as seen in this replay where they shred those dragoons and archons. It also makes hydra busts a legit threat as they tear through cannons in seconds.

[@fluffydestroyer8336]

explosive damage just means they deal less damage to non-large units. if they did normal damage they'd still kill goons and archons but they'd also kill marines, lings, zealots and mutas. also dragoons and hydralisks are the same tech level, idk why you think it's nuts that hydras are good against them

[@nguyen.tien.phat1310]

It's so weird. Every Protoss game i watched these past 2 days was a lost for the P. Like 4 or 5 replays already.

[@Zraknul]

Protoss losing to mass hydras is pretty standard.

[@nguyen.tien.phat1310]

@@Zraknul really? So that's why. I feel a bit better now

[@Zraknul]

​@@nguyen.tien.phat1310generally speaking there's a slight percentage advantage Z > P > T > Z. Varies by maps, some players are stronger at it that others etc.

[@Tanzklaue]

so in the asl cast, you briefly touched upon which colors you favour for terran. and i must say: blue zerg and purple protoss are not high on the fashion tier list.

[@calelaquidara8698]

Winning for the first 13:30... loses at ~17. Brutal. I'd love to see any other race come back that fast that hard. Press that Hydralisk button I guess.

[@FlymanMS]

Great long term decisions made by the winner

[@PR_1775]

I very grudgingly click “like” on this game considering the winning side.

[@drewwalbeck6006]

It's wild how their supply was like dead even right up until the very end

[@jonotermaat7247]

Hey Artosis. Did we ever see queens used at high level ? Broodling tanks seems strong and ensnare use with lings? Cheers

[@usmh]

Can't believe Stork lost that after those max value storms he got off in the early game...

[@udun84]

Spoiler Block.

[@sleeper1855]

Very nice control while attacking by Shine

[@AdorableOdyssey]

It’s a chilly day today

[@godlyobject6509]

Great game. Great cast!

[@DoktorSauce]

Nice, a match where Zerg didnt just mindlessly spam mutas!

[@AqoCyrale]

Stork kinda threw this game by letting all his corsairs die early, if he played a bit more defensive and kept them alive he'd start steamrolling, he was completely ahead until 10 minutes in. All he had to do was mix a few dragoons instead of getting full zealot army, and as soon as he sees scourges just run corsairs back and in circles. Crazy how such a small thing can turn a whole game

[@nicholasscott2118]

ramen and artosis casting a ZvP, name a better duo

[@Fanelan053]

Well done!

[@andreluiskarpinski732]

Were are the reavers?

[@Zraknul]

Reavers are harder to keep alive. Zerg mid game army is better equipped than Terrans to deal with shuttle/reaver.

[@andreluiskarpinski732]

@@Zraknul hmmmmm

[@Zraknul]

Maybe Snow or someone can figure out how to get reaver corsair going again.

[@dewinmoonl]

what an exciting match

[@mariocarroll]

FIRST! keep em coming sir! I love them and I don't even played more than my friends.

[@ianfarris9396]

I think lots more protoss could take mid games if they protected their templars

[@perfectman3077]

easier said than done

[@TheSuperappelflap]

I think lots of terrans could take mid games if they protected their siege tanks

[@Zraknul]

Definitely easier said than done, but it's a room for improvement for protoss players. Templars getting moved with an army group and landing on the front side is bad control where they can get snuped easier. Similarly, lurkers and tanks getting left clumped together to get wrecked by storm is bad control.

[@RockBottomBrenny]

Really sick match

[@gungcharles2200]

Hell yea Artosis

[@Dtt4]

Damn you still coughing? Time to see the Doc.

[@TwirlingFern]

Exciting game

[@railenmiles]

Nice to see stork

[@karpai5427]

Space looks dull in Remastered. All the stars are white as apposed to colorful blue-purple of original.

[@bOstik210]

Dayummm

[@TheSTLTaz]

For the algo!

[@somecooney5304]

ling foreshadowing...

[@eNTo0o0]

Commentary is great but the constant moving and zooming in when there's fights makes it very difficult to watch it. Especially as you are max zoomed in, now you have to move even more to catch the whole fight. I would just try to stop with constantly selecting units altogether and when in fights, just zoom out a little bit and freeze, so people can enjoy a bit of static camera, no need to see the units eyes for heaven sakes. It would be much enjoyable that way. Just my 2 cents.

[@TagaBearClaw]

ggs

[@Endlessmelody4]

👍🏿

[@perfectman3077]

PvZ is just so brutal. Must be the hardest matchup in all of BW.

[@darylzacharyong9855]

Not as Brutal as ZvZ

[@perfectman3077]

@@darylzacharyong9855 mirror matchups always have a bunch of randomness in them.

[@azk5811]

I think it'd be really cool if you threw in some lower level games every now and then, maybe B or C level or even lower just to help give some perspective for how impressive the pro play really is. Also could be a good excuse to bring back the carbot skin occasionally

[@andreimontecillo5706]

Spoiler block

[@fingon8919]

hydra a-move and win

[@cl8804]

shine's control is terrible

[@Szgerle]

Zerg wins.

[@Winnetou17]

"Stork certainly played well recently" - well, not in ASL... :(

[@SoyDrinker]

dab