Wes, Yes it is ok to fold them in storage. We've done testing on the HyFin's being stored in that configuration, and encountered no issues. Also, the twin pack HyFins are folded inside the packaging. Thanks for the question.
@jmuk35717 жыл бұрын
North American Rescue. Is there a time where it would be more harmful than helpful to use this a chest wound?
@cubbie94993 жыл бұрын
How does it stop bleeding?
@tornad80633 жыл бұрын
@@cubbie9499 it's notade to stop bleeding. Generally speaking bleedings from chest area are either untreatable or not life treathening. Chest seal is put on to limit air getting into the chest and generating pressure on lungs. Newest cotccc recomendations say to use ventilated chest seal to also allow escape of the aor from chest.
@whatdoiput8072 жыл бұрын
I'd hate to be the guy who's the Guinea pig for that test. "Hey Greg! We got a .45 and some chest seals folded up into origami cranes, we're gonna need you."
@cameron3525 Жыл бұрын
Excellent question
@atillathefun51358 жыл бұрын
Hardcore: Using a finger to plug the wound like a cork. Macgyver: Superglue/staple and a plastic bag, etc. (Points awarded for creativity) Temple of Doom: Open up the chest cavity further to establish open pneumothorax.
@ilovestitch3 жыл бұрын
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@whatdoiput8072 жыл бұрын
Tampons plug bullet sounds pretty well. Just saying lol
@spiralizer2 жыл бұрын
@@whatdoiput807 What, do you put them in your ears lol
@whatdoiput8072 жыл бұрын
@@spiralizer if I get shot through and through both my ears, sure. Worth a shot.
@whatdoiput8072 жыл бұрын
@@spiralizer bullet wounds* lmao I've been thinking about your comment for the greater part of the day and just realized my typo. That's funny.
@LaurentCardinal2 жыл бұрын
I feel bad for the model bleeding and having difficulty breathing all the while the host is talking, presenting the product!
@TTGTanner Жыл бұрын
Don’t worry, it was just an animation.
@Jason-xl6ov Жыл бұрын
Hope he’s ok
@CORZER013 жыл бұрын
@onegingernut The pneumothorax patient is placed on the affected (R/L lateral recumbant) side for two reasons: 1) This position shifts the weight of the organs against the injury, splinting the injury and causing a reduction in hemorrhage. 2) The effect of the weight of the thoracic organs against the pleura decreases the likelyhood of air escaping from the lung into the pleural space, thus minimizing the pneumothorax. Fluid transfer due to gravity is not the concern, AVOID TENSION PNEUMOTHORAX!
@chthulu276 ай бұрын
So tension pneumothorax basically compresses the lungs to the point that breathing becomes impossible? And if there's active bleeding from the wound site indicating a ruptured blood vessel, is immediate full surgical intervention the only way to stop that bleeding?
@muriloninja Жыл бұрын
3:10 Soldier hanging out in the fatal funnel, of course he gets shot. Should have put a disclaimer "No Soldier with a working brain would stand in an open doorway. For recreation purposes only!" haha!
@floriangramsch9036 Жыл бұрын
If u don’t have a chestseal u can use the inner steril plastic wrapping oder the Israeli Bandage to improvisieren one…
@Jmyster47 жыл бұрын
aren't chest seals also supposed to allow air to exit the cavity on the exhale? effectively re-establishing negative pressure? I work in a hospital so this stuff interests me.
@vikingsfan21237 жыл бұрын
Jmyster4 Only if they're a vented chest seal. This company makes vented ones as well.
@Brickwall76533 жыл бұрын
No, they stated that there is no evidence that the 3 sided approach is better than 4
@dyscea2 жыл бұрын
@@vikingsfan2123 Oh. No wonder the product i’m looking at says “vented”.
@fennoman92412 жыл бұрын
You can slap a collapsed lung spike on.
@stevemccormick3968 Жыл бұрын
@@Brickwall7653 That's old news
@truehope2874 жыл бұрын
Can you leave chest seals in a vehicle when it is below freezing out?
@namenotfound87472 жыл бұрын
Dunno about cars, but in the USMC, infantry units with corpsmen carry this stuff in packs in the snow when it's -10 f out and hump this stuff around for weeks non stop. Sometimes even getting wet and it does last a few years at least.
@redbearpreparedness28826 жыл бұрын
How large are these? I am considering them for an ankle IFAK, and want to ensure that they will fit. Can they be folded prior to use?
@stevemccormick3968 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@Beans420MoreBeans4 жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t I be bleeding internally after though? I know this is for emergencies in war scenarios where there are no doctors or emergency rooms, but what if there’s internal bleeding in the lung? Would our friend be out of luck or is there anything that can be done in the field?
@clydefrog87114 жыл бұрын
This isnt to control bleeding, its to help breath. ABC's. Airway, Breathing, Circulation, in that order. My knowledge is dated, but it doesnt just apply to combat. Like anywhere, if you get shot, it's all about where and how much time passes. If you get shot in the chest and cant breath, the bleeding won't really matter. If you get shot in the arm or leg, a tourniquet may help. Each case is different, but these can close chest wounds to help you breathe and turniquets can stop you from bleeding out. Doesn't mean if you apply one of these or a TQ that the person will live.
@snorman19114 жыл бұрын
Chest seals, tourniquets, and packing gauze/pressure are to keep you alive long enough to get to a surgeon.
@rjulmer18 жыл бұрын
If you use a chest seal but realize that you need to use a decompression needle, do you need to apply another one for the needle entry site or does it work a different way? Please explain
@wolfmannn20085 жыл бұрын
R. J. Ulmer usually needles used for TP come with one way valves. In emergencies you could use a simple needle or a pen, but after a while you should close the needle opening with your finger or tape. When the patient has difficulty breathing open the needle hole again. This cycle repeats until you get to better advanced care.
@mabowabo842 жыл бұрын
When I put the victim in lateral recummbent position, which side of the shoulder should contact on the ground?
@bigsteveliveslife13 жыл бұрын
@cyberbyter that doesnt make sense? with the injured side down, the blood will pool on the injured side and not affect the good lung.
@soulheights823 Жыл бұрын
This was great thank you👍
@Dcook859 жыл бұрын
Sooooo....a tension pnemothorax can still occur with the use of this product?? I'm not very knowledgeable on this stuff, but isn't that a pretty bad flaw with this product? Not trying to be a jerk just asking.
@DK-Effective-Living9 жыл бұрын
+Tregeta Yes - this only stops new air from entering the chest cavity. To remove air already in the chest, you also need to use needle decompression. If the chest seal is applied early enough, you can prevent air entering the patient.
@Laotzu.Goldbug6 жыл бұрын
Yes. To relieve the pressure, you would need to use a vented chest seal, which some other companies do make
@tusccountyjiujitsu5 жыл бұрын
Saying it can still happen is required for all chest wound products. Treat with needle chest decompression.
@LAEDCSolutions3 жыл бұрын
This is very well made! Great work!
@Isaiahwattsfromva11 ай бұрын
Quick question when u apply the chest seal and you turn the victim over do you have to turn them over to the side where the gsw is or does it even matter ?
@ROBIN_SAGE10 ай бұрын
I saw in a comment above, someone who seems to know what they’re talking about, said you want the GSW side DOWN, so the organs push down on the lung and wound. It helps prevent a pneumothorax, which is the larger concern vs blood loss. (These things stop blood loss pretty good too btw )
@chthulu276 ай бұрын
@ROBIN_SAGE , so do chest seals help provide the necessary pressure to Kickstart the body's natural clotting process? (Differential pressure at the wound site, Clotting, fibrin into fibrinogen, blah blah blah)
@OnTheRazorsEdgeYT5 жыл бұрын
Hi, in which case should I use a "Hyfin Vent Chest Seal" and in which case should I use a simple "Hyfin Chest Seal" ? Thank you
@Liljoozy3 жыл бұрын
the one with vent is for when you anticipate air buildup inside the chest. otherwise you can just use a normal one and burp it every little bit if pressure builds up
@lennertscherka5143 жыл бұрын
@@Liljoozy Whould it be a problem if I use an vented everytime?
@andrewknight97823 жыл бұрын
@@lennertscherka514 the non vented one kind of more appeals to EMS on the civilian side so you can secure to your protocols Ie your agency may say to seal on all sides
@andrewknight97823 жыл бұрын
@@lennertscherka514 I say just use vented all the time keep shit simple
@knighthauler252911 ай бұрын
I'm an OFA 3 in British Columbia Canada. I have just gone through a 2 week recertification. Both this time and also on my last, three years ago. Worksafe the overseeing Government body says we should not apply a chest seal but only gauze and not taped on. I've mentioned TCCC to the instructor but she said we were governed by the Red Cross. I can provide the reference material we use for documentation. My issue is If I follow the Worksafe rules, the patient may die. If I use a chest seal and the patient survives, I could lose my certification. Any thoughts?
@ROBIN_SAGE10 ай бұрын
Those instructions seem horribly out of date…. Like much of what Red Cross says and does. I trust the TCCC and what I’ve seen with my own eyes in 2 different wars. Do the chest seal and take your chances.
@GiveMeThatCake4 ай бұрын
Is your certification more important than saving a life?
@OfficiallyLost Жыл бұрын
I got a chest wound just watching this.
@cometastral3 жыл бұрын
Dont mind me, just gonna pass out 3 times
@greenstreet52874 жыл бұрын
Good info, nice moobs
@Isaac_Davis_11 жыл бұрын
Is it ok to fold these in storage?
@Liljoozy3 жыл бұрын
yeah bro it is smushy texture anyway it would be impossible for it to retain any permanent memory from its storage position
@Isaac_Davis_3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting seven years for a response.......I can finally fold my chest seals!!!
@Matthiasschweizer3 жыл бұрын
@@Isaac_Davis_ that's hilarious
@Matthiasschweizer3 жыл бұрын
@@Isaac_Davis_ do you still have the same chest seals?
@udonnomi69583 жыл бұрын
@@Matthiasschweizer come back in 7 years to find out!
@malva90924 жыл бұрын
do those have a due date?
@stevemccormick3968 Жыл бұрын
you mean expiration date? Yes but I've used expired ones when teaching trauma classes. some were 3 years past exp and worked great. Ireally don't think a GSW victim will care if the vent/seal is expired. The victim just doesn't want to expire
@StretchOnYT2 жыл бұрын
What should done for the exit wound in a scenario like this?
@chrisbrown3996 Жыл бұрын
Chest seals typically come in packs 2. You should apple one to the entry and one to the exit. (I have no medical experience and just an repeating what I heard on other videos)
@cyberbyter13 жыл бұрын
Nice product. When placing pt in lateral recumbant position, chest injuries should be up, not down, when rolled as is shown in this video.
@lukejackson15755 жыл бұрын
I was taught to put the injured side down..
@yung-megafone2 жыл бұрын
@@lukejackson1575 same here
@tallzdatank6 жыл бұрын
If the patient has a particularly hairy chest, will this dressing stick over the hair? Should you try to shave as much as you can first? And can AED pads be applied over this seal?
@paulinscott21905 жыл бұрын
dick smith yes, if the pt has a hairy chest, or sweaty chest. You can shave it and wipe it. It’s common sense
@dhayes19952 жыл бұрын
@@paulinscott2190 wrong. Zero chance in a TCCC environment will you “shave hair” you’re gonna stick that mF as best you can and tape that shit if it’s not stickie enough. Common sense
@medslavekemper13 жыл бұрын
Do you guys still sell the crickit?
@mytinu4 ай бұрын
…and don‘t forget the possible exit wound.
@linearswitchguy95934 ай бұрын
Literally every chest seal sold by north american rescue has two, one for entry, one for exit
@007nadineL8 ай бұрын
Im here from Rust movie court coverage .
@superpoacher67112 жыл бұрын
Why was he standing in that doorway???? Lol Preventive maintenance