Hyper Voice Sylveon With Curse Incense Is The NEW META | Pokemon Unite

[@ttmabyt7710]

I think Jolteon should be the next Eeveelution as a Speedster. We JUST had an entire Fire Type themed update where we got Ho-oh, Ceruledge, we’re about to get Armarouge, and there are a total of 9 fire type Pokémon(including armarouge since it releases tmr) INSIDE of Pokémon Unite(we got it in). Water type is in a similar situation where we have 9 water type Pokémon(not including Psyduck since it doesn’t release for a bit) in the game. Both of these types have their Pokémon spread out among many roles and have a variety of play styles. Electric type has a measly 3 Pokémon representing it in Unite. Compared to Fire and Water which together make up nearly about 25% of the roster, electric only takes up a measly 4%. Not to mention the Pokémon representing this type are a Support Spatk. Mage, a DPS backline Spatk Mage, and an extremely valuable speedster carry either and extremely high skill ceiling that needs crazy coordination. Plus I’d like to see more Spatk Speedsters and I’d like to see what they could do with its kit

[@jakiru8783]

Definitely need more electric types

[@Giodude042]

Yes,🔥💧⚡

[@novicecreed]

I honestly would love to see a Sp.Att Attacker take full advantage of Sylveon's Hyper Voice, since people tend to forget that Hyper Voice reduces Sp.Def on whatever mon it hits it with. That plus curse item (on Sylveon) and spoon (which already ignores part of the Sp.Def, could make quite a massive impact if used correctly!

[@Giodude042]

Plus slowbro, plus Mr. Mime, plus ,wiggly tuff , plus gardevoir = 0 sp defense for enemies and you win😅

[@ThePokemonUniteMasters]

Venusaur Has A Very Similar Effect With Sludge Bomb, Pikachu And Venu Are Great Combos Right Now! 😉👍💜🧡

[@Giodude042]

@@ThePokemonUniteMasters right swap gardevoir with venusaur in my team comp

[@daniellocklear5908]

I’d want an All Rounder Flareon mainly since we don’t have an All Rounder Eevee, I personally want Vaporeon cause it could be a good support or defender but I just feel like it’ll have another version of Surf and I’m just tired of seeing the same move on like 10 mons >.>

[@ThePokemonUniteMasters]

Vaporeon Support And All Rounder Flareon Are Great Ideas! 😉👍💜🧡

[@sephirotten2413]

Aurora beam, bubble beam, acid armor and either weather ball or whirlpool and the eevee will have swift since all eveees have that move and yawn, that could be a interesting moveset in my opinion

[@Shadow-hy8uk]

Vaporeon to get a support role eeveelution

[@MasterStacona]

i can see vaporeon as a support-defender hybrid

[@TheDigitalTrickster]

Vaporeon is the only pokemon that is compatible with anyone

[@jibbily27]

@@TheDigitalTrickster🤔

[@Smoothvoperator]

Time for an eevee supporter, feels about right

[@voguefurret]

Sylveon and Umbreon are undercover Supporters.

[@codyouellette6936]

My favorite of the original 3 is Flareon but we don't need another All-Rounder right now. So support Vaporeon or Speedster Jolteon it is.

[@ByLawsGoAndYell227]

SPEEDSTER JOLTEONNNNN

[@ThePokemonUniteMasters]

Yes Please! 😄👍💜🧡

[@leafythesylveon8220]

Supporter Vaporeon

[@jakiru8783]

Vaporeon is the Eeveelution I want to see most. Would be amazing as a Supporter but I could see it easily as a Defender too. What could be cool though is a 3-in-1 character with all the Kanto Eevees.

[@illurian5616]

Jolteon as a sp.atk speedster! We only have Gengar as a sp.atk speedster, so would be awesome to have another one!

[@UltimateRaven]

Don’t forget Darkrai which is coming later after Armarouge

[@illurian5616]

@@UltimateRaven ah true! Either way would be cool to have more sp.atk speedsters!

[@UltimateRaven]

@@illurian5616 True

[@Asakedia]

I'd love to have Vaporeon being a Supporter 💗

[@heartbreaker4048]

I think we should have a support eevee. Probably Vaporeon tbh.

[@matthewthefunnyman2788]

I’d like to see Jolteon, we could always use some more speedsters

[@Tagl.]

Vaporeon Supporter, Jolteon Speedster and Flareon All-Rounder. We've had enough new All-Rounders, and Speedsters are more common than Supporters in matches, so I'd say Vaporeon if we had to pick 1.

[@jakiru8783]

The Bangle & Incense items are definitely underestimated. Seems only more recently people are starting to use them a little more.

[@philipp_mn]

did you know in terms of a defender vaporeon is the best choice.

[@lsnorlax9653]

did you know that in terms of being a supporter, vaporeon is also the best choice?

[@Nolan1333]

Man i miss the old hyper voice. It was great at shredding health especially first rotation of birds

[@echigokurogane8612]

Out of the 3 we have left, Flareon should be the next Eevee to boost its popularity as it is the least popular one. Makes the most sense for it to be an All-Rounder and it’ll be good for every role to have an Eevee.

[@angelomendoza6666]

Flareon all-rounder Jolteon speedster Vaporeon supporter or defender

[@echigokurogane8612]

@@angelomendoza6666 To me it makes the most sense for Vaporeon to be a Supporter. Sorta in a similar way to Clefable with its moves.

[@angelomendoza6666]

@@echigokurogane8612 yeah aqua ring is a no-brainer support move for vaporeon It’ll probably get haze, wish, or protect as well. Im saying it might be a defender because of protect or wish, which are very common moves it’s expected to use in the og games. Scald could be one too, but it doesnt use scald anymore

[@warevampire66692]

They could also just make one more Eevee that evolves into any of the original three evolutions based on a picked move like how scyther can evolve into scissor as an option

[@marcusjones1399]

No flareon. We have a ton of fire types and there are so many cooler fire types to add to the game that isn’t an eeveelution. I get what you mean but Vaporeon is at least a top water type. Would fit the game much better

[@acethespaceboy]

it’s only the ogs left, so I know it’s crazy and highly unlikely, but i say add em all in under an eevee license and have it able to swap between all three. That would be awesome

[@jameshuntington8644]

I just picture hyper voice with Cursed items as Sylveon just hurling every cuss word in the book at the enemy team 😂😂

[@bangthedrumquicker]

Im running resonant guard, shell bell, cursed insence with hyper voice/kiss to help boost my hp recovery and keep me alive longer. Been very successful with it.

[@rayhanmajid7008]

Next Eevee I want is empoleon

[@gborbe8342]

Best

[@ChamAramis]

Keckleon would be cool as well.

[@RandomQuestNPC]

I'm not sold on this rework. The SpAtk ratio got heavily hit on top of base damage, and it's noticeable as a Sylveon main. The silver lining is that, while not meta, I can play draining kiss hyper voice to play more into full on debuff with that improved slow from draining kiss.

[@mimi_kyuwu]

+1

[@mimi_kyuwu]

The damage loss is so noticeable especially late game. Can't 1v1 for a certain kill anymore.

[@voguefurret]

If we could get Vaporeon as a Supporter and Flareon for All-Rounder then Eevee has everything covered. Jolteon lies somewhere between Attacker and Speedster, It's giving me Cinderace vibes.

[@Usbdh1291]

Now make the draining kiss build same damage as hypervoice and nerf all the eeves to the level of sylveon.

[@sonnykoufax9976]

Oh hell nah. I been using this build since the update. Why the heck haven't I made a video 😭😭😭

[@sunsetter4940]

I wish they gave this to a supporter mon personally. They're often heal based or complete trolls (looking at you mike and sableye) I'd really like a supporter that's one interesting than follow a teammate and heal them (oversimplification but still). Obviously a party buffer could be broken but something like current hyper voice is what I've imagined. Heck I'd even like a supporter who combos like an all rounder to do their job

[@bangthedrumquicker]

Psyduck is coming...

[@toallcameone3325]

I run into MariahCarry a lot in the times of day that I play. They're pretty solid

[@WaterBoi1991]

Jolteon sp.Atk speedster would be really cool and my choice but I've seen people in the comments say Flareon All-Rounder and that's really cool too

[@sassano.10]

Next eevee definitely has to be gen 1, any of the 3 would be nice, but probably jolteon since there aren’t many electric types INSIDE the game

[@kalkkar]

Id have to say Vaporion, maybe as a regen defender/or all rounder via rain dance or somthing yes ik curse items but alot of people would buy vaporion. If not vaporion then id say flareon attacker/speedster

[@ThePokemonUniteMasters]

Hunter Speaking: Me And Link Want Jolteon, But Jinju Wants Vaporeon, All Three Would Be Great Though! 😄👍💜🧡

[@graveshift77]

Next eevee should be Vaporeon as a supporter. I think that would be incredible

[@lottiejay8184]

I would like to see Jolteon to be next as a Speedster because there isn't enough electric types in the game

[@Sardo2018]

Again the support attacker being meta. Pika, Sylvie and Mew are all A+ choices now, bordering on S. A really interesting subcategory, just forces a retreat because of the lane coverage. Also probably flareon, could be a fun attacker.

[@Belesprit656]

I don't think we need more Eevees. Plus like defenders the devs struggle to make them balanced and seem incredibly biased. We're missing a lot of starters for instance.

[@RedL1keRoses7]

Flareon would be an all rounder, Vaporeon would be a defender or possibly a supper, and Jolteon would be a speedster, so as long as it isn’t Flareon I’m cool with either of the other two.

[@yeeyang7740]

Vaporeon as a support or defender given its natural tanky stats in the main games

[@Lupe-oe6ig]

Spragels are you a undercover volcano 😦

[@MrGoofy87]

Jolteon… ultimate: Pin Missile Barrage aiming/channeling like miradon that slows with high critical ending

[@KyogreKauai]

I want Jolteon in the game most. But really i want all eevee evolutions to come

[@jakiru8783]

Someone in chat brought up Mew, asking if they're in a good spot. Mentioning they don't feel good in SoloQ. I think this is a good topic of discussion. In competitive my impression is they're still super strong but a lot more reasonable than before, however it seems the general Unite audience suffers as a result of this because even for the people that want to play Mew (I'm not one of them) to a competent level this just isn't a realistic goal for them. I don't think this is a healthy place for Mew to be in the grand scheme of the meta. So why is Mew so strong that it has to be nerfed to this degree? Its always been this very versatile Attacker/Support hybrid. However, Support aspects are baked into the very core of its moveset (take the unite for example) while they prioritize its strength as an Attacker but they want to keep the identity they made for it since release so both aspects of it have had to be nerfed extensively as a result. What I would propose is they continue to lower Mew's offensive power but compensate by increasing its supportive utility, reworking and buffing moves like Coaching, Lightscreen, Mystical Mirage and the passive speed increase. This way the currently lacking Support Role would get a much needed addition, taking from the bloated Attacker Class. Not only that, I think this version of Mew would be more approachable to a wider range of people and actually be a fun yet still unique way to play the Pokemon and a Supporter that matter.

[@raykublazer5266]

Just one as to be Jolteon my all time favorite would be a great speed or attacker

[@Snail_Lord75]

I would say I want Jolteon speedster, but flareon could be the first eevee all-rounder

[@RyansChannel0203]

Incense Sylvie has always been meta.

[@nathanmack1254]

An all rounder flareon would be cool

[@nicholasmcconville209]

Jolteon has been my favorite pokemon since the beginning so pleeeeeease

[@ahmedali-ek2du]

WolfeyVGC said he watches your videos🥳🥳🥳🥳🎉🎉🎉🐐

[@lalitkishore3697]

Whose that?

[@lamia820]

@@lalitkishore3697 L

[@ahmedali-ek2du]

@@lalitkishore3697 the GOAT of competitive pokemon, he said this in a stream

[@PinguinoBrayan]

SYLVEON yeee haw

[@jamiemacrae4484]

next Eevee has to be supporter vaporeon. HAS to be.

[@SilverPikachu7]

Flareon the All-Rounder

[@zMetal_Gaming]

We need a actual support eeveelution so I'd say Vaporeon. She can act like the dolia of unite

[@notoriouspapi1990]

Not enough electric types in the game. Jolteon as a speedster, or vaporeon as a defender🃏

[@shingwu2481]

Give her lot glasses may deal lot damage than put shell bell

[@SamStormsKBD]

We need: 1) speedster Jolteon 2) defender Vaporeon 3) all-rounder Flareon

[@bangthedrumquicker]

I think vaporeon should be a supporter with veils and shrouds to buff and nerf, possibly playing with the idea of melting into a puddle would be awesome for the unite.

[@stefentango]

Should be a support evolution.

[@robertgonsalez-re5wu]

Ive been using this build lol

[@robotscrapyard]

Vaporeon needs to be next!

[@AmateurTravelingFS]

Vaporeon as supporter or defender!

[@kennethwilliams5638]

They should just invent a bug type evie, for the eos region

[@Tal0n26]

Not disagreeing with it being good. But as someone who played sylveon a ton, I really dislike the Hyper voice change. Maybe I just need to play it more but it feels extremely reliant on teammates now when it wasn’t before.

[@shafayetahmed6955]

We need a Flareon as an All rounder

[@joshstubbs7623]

Jolteon ⚡️

[@ElsaAnnamew]

Sir can you say something about voice ban it's keep on increasing And auto ready for match so we don't have to tap on it ❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@N1netbattler]

My fav Jolteon

[@hefancy6921]

Sylveon is top tier, transfems are eating good tonight

[@riceballsmashpokemongamere1705]

Hell yeah we are (not me yet tho)

[@kirahertz]

i want flareon next 🔥❤️

[@NMB_Viper-yw2wb]

I see that name every where

[@pride_mitochondria3921]

Why are you using the Spoon with Hyper Voice? Seems like you have better item options there.

[@RamzaBeoulves]

Spoon is the best 3rd slot options tied with Choice Spec if the goal is damage Sadly Hyper Voice is weak now regardless of build so might as well try Focus Band

[@Intuitionnnn]

Vaporeon!!!!

[@austinparks997]

Great build but speedsters/allrounders eat it up. Release the 3 remaining Evers all at once!

[@JuliusSendula-g1q]

as defender and elde main i hate this build lol

[@marcusjones1399]

Easily add Vaporeon. Jolteon is my favorite but there are better electric types to add. Vaporeon is more iconic and would be another defender or supporter. Jolteon obviously speedster but let’s not do that.

[@christophertherians2243]

Next Eevee? JUST EEVEE, like pika a no evolution version.

[@davidneirinckx593]

Flareon!!!!!

[@lsnorlax9653]

Give. Me. Supporter. Vaporeon

[@SoraxasStraeh]

Vaporeon tank

[@Chris-sc9tq]

Vaperon

[@adampruitt6236]

Jolteon

[@groovin2357]

Flareon is the best choice cause nobody really likes it and unite can give it the chance to be lovable

[@Takxicity]

Stacking with specs is just better

[@angelomendoza6666]

It’s less worth it now because of the scaling nerf on hypervoice Better to invest in utility/healing/antiheal like with cursed incense

[@SphealIcecream]

You should still use both. Specs and curse. Third one wise glasses I’d assume?

[@angelomendoza6666]

@@Takxicity i hate stacking with eevee 😅

[@AvinashGawde-yi9ux]

Napoleon is thee best eeveelution

[@Behelit]

Mirai carried

[@RamzaBeoulves]

Sadly it feels significantly worse than it was before the change I want the old Hyper Voice back

[@eusoueu9230]

absolutely do not use spoon, spoon does nothing on sylveon hyper voice, at best you do like +10 damage per hyper voice, use something like wise glasses or even choice specs

[@Aluran]

NGL I love the change to hyper voice

[@pnr2736]

Yoooo

[@Bl1zzrd1]

Please give me Jolteon 🙏

[@robertgonsalez-re5wu]

I don’t like this new hyper voice 😢 i miss the old version 😞😞😞

[@sapphiremaster039]

2nd

[@graypool]

i hate the change so much man

[@Zenith-l4w]

Why?

[@Oliver-uz1fs]

​@@Zenith-l4wit destroyed the only thing that required some skill in eeveelutions + it also removed pretty much the entire hypervoice counterplay

[@Zenith-l4w]

@@Oliver-uz1fs well, that's true

[@angelomendoza6666]

It made hypervoice damage weaker, which is what makes me mad as a sylvie main

[@packmaster6249]

​@Oliver-uz1fs I'm a firm believer that playing icy wind Glaceon *properly* is the highest skill ceiling for eevees. Players can not manage the crystals.

[@toxicgaming411]

1st

[@sakaiiyuji7977]

This build totaly sucks. It only works in a 5 Player team. Your dmg output? To low! HP recovery? To low! Defense? To low! One of the most useless build

[@lamia820]

Thats your opinion but imo this build is fire because sylveon can cover the whole lane and debuff their healing onthe goalzone

[@sakaiiyuji7977]

@@lamia820 yep but thats Not a solo que build. Like i said this only works in 5 Stack teams. Paired together with randoms you die way to fast...Fights taking like forever und you dont Do realy much dmg. And the reduced healing doesnt matter if you play with random noobs who only doing their own Thing

[@RamzaBeoulves]

@@lamia820 It's not just an opinion. You can objectively measure those stats and both math theory and in-game data come to the same conclusion The patch nerfed its already weak effective damage and did nothing to cover the build's weakness

[@lampad4549]

​@@sakaiiyuji7977your probably one of the people that just does their own thing, if you actually tried playing it as a team this build is pretty rewarding

[@lampad4549]

​@@RamzaBeoulveswould love to see those calculation, spragels video doesnt allign with that so ill wait

[@mimi_kyuwu]

For the viewers: don't use spoon for hyper voice build, they both serves the same purpose. Use wise glasses instead - it will increase the damage as well as heal from spell vamp and shell bell 🎐

[@RamzaBeoulves]

Shell Bell doesn't do anything on Sylveon. Spoon gives you significantly more damage and the difference in cooldown is neither perceptible nor relevant Wise Glasses and Cursed Incense are staples with Spoon and Choice Specs being the best options for 3rd slot. Focus Band and Resonant Guard both greatly surpass Shell Bell if the goal is survivability

[@mimi_kyuwu]

@@RamzaBeoulves 1. I was talking about the build shown in the video. 2. You clearly don't understand how hyper voice & spoon interact. 3. You clearly don't understand why Spragels was running a shell bell on this build. 4. Delete the comment.

[@RamzaBeoulves]

​@@mimi_kyuwu 2. Why don't you join the mathcord and defend your theory that we should assume tragets start with a full HV's worth of Sp.Def debuffs before you even hit them? 3. Spragels runs Shell Bell for the same reason he runs everything mentioned on a patch note and claimed, multiple time, that Flail Snorlax is amazing despite its (then) 34% win rate The reason is entirely decoupled from viability 4. Why?

[@mimi_kyuwu]

@@RamzaBeoulves 1. why did you skip the main point??? 2. Nowhere did I mention that a target starts with full HV's worth of debuff. You clearly have an issue with reading & comprehension. 3. Spragels ran it for FUN. For FUN. Spell it with me, F , U, N - FUN. 4. Delete your comment because you are wasting my time with your exclusive mathcord knowledge.

[@RamzaBeoulves]

@@mimi_kyuwu 1. What's the main point? 2. Right here : "You clearly don't understand how hyper voice & spoon interact" The only interaction you could be be refering to is the double dip on shredding Sp.Def 3. Curious then that your first comment doesn't mention fun but instead focus on metrics like healing and damage. which assess viability I don't mind the discussion but I'd rather you not run with that goalpost

[@KnightsLegacy90]

Supporter Vaporeon