Hyundai Ioniq 38kwh test drive. Wow this thing is efficient!

[@amiddled]

Ioniq 38kwh owner here. The charger cap hanging down I haven’t really given much a thought about. The plastic is softer than the paint clear coat, so as long as it isn’t moving around and dragging dirt around it shouldn’t be an issue. Agree with you about the handling, steering is numb, it basically started out as a Prius type car, so they’ve sort of gone with a lifeless driving experience to match Toyota. The traffic moving off warning is a standard part of the driver alert system. It was on by default when I got my Premium model.

[@northernirelandfootanklecl1767]

My ioniq is doing 200+ miles on a charge. Brilliant efficiency.

[@TassieEV]

Nice to see you got a chance to drive the Ioniq and compare it to your Kona. I love my Ioniq and as it's the 28kWh model has faster charging on DC fast chargers than the one you have on loan.

[@EVPuzzle]

I think I prefer the old one. How weird is that....charge limit, current rates, auto Regen, adaptive cruise though all big improvements. Still think original Ioniq will be a classic

[@TassieEV]

@@EVPuzzle I've seen Bjorn as well on the new Ioniq and said on a 1000km trip has shown the classic Ioniq gets there faster, all thanks to faster charger speeds.

[@Pervypriest]

@@TassieEV that I really dont understand, I mean battery density goes up about 6% each year. So Hyundai should be able to upgrade the Ioniq with a 34kwh battery without any extra kilos added and retain the same charging speed, curve as the old one. Yet the new one weighing 80 kgs more than the old one Hyundai claims that the increased battey size is the reason it has to charge slow. Am I missing something out or is this excuse for doing a sloppy Job? I own a classic Ioniq and loves it😀

[@richardwaller7721]

I was originally intending on buying a Ioniq but came across a rather unusual but critical deal breaker for me - the inability to fit roof bars (which were listed as not being “homologated”). This resulted in me going for the Kona with its roof rails allowing me to carry bikes and kayaks on the roof and I’ve been delighted with the purchase since day 1.

[@AndyC2_]

What an absolutely fantastic video Nigel, this is very helpful thank you !!

[@EVPuzzle]

There was me thinking I should've taken the car somewhere nice for a walk around... Test drives are never long enough to do the car justice but I do try to include something for everyone

[@donpay1714]

You talk a lot of sense, very good review

[@sokolguma8937]

The holder is for the petrol cap on hybrid ioniq, save money on the production I suppose.

[@snapshot6289]

Thanks and yes I'm going for the Kona EV 2021.

[@andrewyork8208]

Very informative - thanks for that - helped me decide - it's a 4+ for me :)

[@Hitstirrer]

Light steering and throttle response are both improved by selecting 'sport' mode if that's what you prefer.

[@EVPuzzle]

No thanks , that just became jerky and exposed the softer suspension more. If only it was all configurable to how we each prefer. Why just 3 modes?

[@dcvariousvids8082]

Why is the Ioniq fitted with a rear wiper. Got enough room for one.

[@robsmith1a]

Have you decided to go for the Mini? I test drove the 28 kwh version at the end of 2016. It was quite good to drive but the dealer wouldn't shift from the £26k asking price so I bought a Zoe ZE40 (battery inc) for under £18k. I quite liked the Ioniq to drive but the bland styling would have got to me after a year or two. Amazing efficiency, it also means miles per minute charging is a lot better too. I liked the Peugeot E 208 best out of every EV I have driven.

[@EVPuzzle]

Zoe was a better deal at 18k for sure £10k more now

[@robsmith1a]

@@EVPuzzle That's why I bought an old SLK as a toy to enjoy for a few years. I expect EV prices to be more sensible by the time I want another change. The SLK does feel like the stone age after the Zoe even though I enjoy it.

[@EVPuzzle]

Bet it's a good reminder of what EVs are good at

[@robsmith1a]

@@EVPuzzle Instant torque and easy fuelling at home. I get range anxiety with petrol because I know I can't just plug in when I get home!

[@barryh1477]

You’ve just talked yourself into buying another Kona

[@EVPuzzle]

Always fancied the yellow one

[@2011ppower]

How slowly do you drive? I have a 2020 Ioniq and consider myself to be a economical driver but average 5.3 m/kWhr in rural driving.

[@EVPuzzle]

30 to 45 mostly for economy tests

[@scottwills4698]

I asked for an electric car while my Ioniq was being serviced and have been offered an i10 auto 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@EVPuzzle]

I refuse just saying you wouldn't ask a vegetarian to eat meat just because that's all you have in stock.

[@scottwills4698]

The EV Puzzle 🤣😂 on the handling front, I too felt the front tyres were a bit loose but changed all 4 tyres to Michelin Crossclimate (from energy) and it’s miles better, same efficiency, better handling and is night and day better in the circa zero temperatures. The only downside I’ve found is they get a bit noisy when you lean on them in the corners and I don’t know the life of them yet.

[@boloborkowski9429]

misleading title, wow so efficient and I stopped watching after 12 min as you talking about everything but not about efficiency.

[@basilbrush6014]

Why all the talking, I was hoping to see driving

[@EVPuzzle]

Patience....

[@James-zu1ij]

I have a mk1 zappi and the 30 kw leaf. I was not aware that you could charge at less than 1.4ish kw. Is this a property of the car. Do i need to upgrade to Zappi 2?

[@EVPuzzle]

Hyundai, Kia, mini, Tesla all allow reduce charging rates. Zappi 1 and 2 work but they're still deciding if it's something they support fully

[@wobby1516]

Just ordered the new yacht blue Kia Nero 4+ trading in our Kona. Why? my wife prefers a larger car with better rear leg room. Did consider the Ioniq but for us to small a battery.

[@aclemfc]

The flap is for petrol cap

[@EVPuzzle]

Oversight or what!?

[@mrhignettshorses]

@@EVPuzzle I imagine it wasn't worth designing another filler flap.

[@sciencetestsubject]

@@EVPuzzle when rapid charging you can put the ccs part of the cover in this holder

[@EVPuzzle]

What about the other half 🤣

[@christianleitner7868]

@@EVPuzzle Actually you click the round side of the normal part on the holder, not that easy to figur out but it works.

[@davidm7237]

Can you not slot the handle of the charging cap on to the flap holder?

[@EVPuzzle]

Nope

[@stevenhaldane4579]

How did you do plugging it in and charging on the zappi will it charge at low wattage

[@EVPuzzle]

I didn't see any options like in the Mini but wouldn't like to be sure. Didn't have time to charge it unfortunately.

[@Cloxxki]

It's so useless for seriously long drives, though. Worse even than the 28 kWh version that preceded it. Bigger battery, lower charge speed. Really by now it should fit a 56 kWh that charges to 140 kW. Which would be a 2020-worthy Ioniq in my book. I don't champion ever larger batteries ad they do add to the footprint of the car over its lifetime and especially the break-even mileage vs a gas car for emissions, production+consumption. But 56 kWh as a biggest version, that'd be nice, wouldn't it? At such good efficiency, it would hang with Model S75D and S90D type of cars over long drives. Say, Bjorn's 1000 km challenge or Oslo-Trondheim-Oslo. The Peugeot E208 is almost there for charge speed, just a bit thirsty I believe?

[@EVPuzzle]

Just limited space in the same configuration. Batteries have advanced enough to give that size and the Ioniq pack space isn't big enough. Personally , I'd have used some boot space to add a few more kWhs. It's better than old Ioniq in some ways but like you say, 1 step forward but another back

[@amiddled]

As somebody that owns a 38kwh, it sounds like you've been watching too much TeslaBjorn. In most countries, the vast majority of rapid chargers are 50kw (although 150kw+ rapids are increasing) and the difference in charge speed between the old and the new Ioniq is minimal on a 50kw charger. Add in the fact that most people charge from home and do the vast majority of trips under 200miles and it isn't really an issue. Even if I was to do 250 mile trip in the UK, the 38kwh would still end up being faster as you'd stop later and have to top up less to make it to 250. You can't just "fit" a 56kwh on current battery tech. They've already squeezed as much as they can into this by extending the pack into the central tunnel. You have to remember that the Ioniq platform isn't a dedicated EV skateboard platform, it is a compromise for the hybrid versions.

[@davidpearn5925]

7.5M/kWh..........seriously ? That’s 50% better than our Model 3 SR+ driven for efficiency in the country @50 mph !

[@chrisabbott683]

david pearn Agreed. I can’t see how that would be sustainable in mixed real world driving.

[@EVPuzzle]

Perhaps real world just means driving without thought of efficiency. I consistently achieve good efficiency. It's just location , route and careful driving. Take the scenic route not the fastest and slow a few mph and efficiency soon increases

[@davidpearn5925]

The EV Puzzle but that’s me all over OCD on efficiency - 50 mph , no brakes , drafting...you name it. Almost no city traffic though.

[@chrisabbott683]

The EV Puzzle Yes there will be circumstances where it’s achievable, I’ve done it in my Model 3, but it requires very specific conditions and I don’t think that number can be treated as a realistic consumption guide for general consumption.

[@EVPuzzle]

Whereas my trips often meander through towns . I drive straight through the centre of Norwich rather than use the bypass. Just a few minutes longer and way better efficiency. Satnav set to shortest distance also