Hyundai IONIQ 6 SE Has Such Crazy Fast Charging It Scores A Huge Result In Our 10% EV Challenge!

[@ouch1011]

I appreciate that this video is shorter than a lot of the 10% challenge videos. I don’t mind long format videos, but these videos in particular tend to run on way too long. 10-15 minutes should be a target length for the 10% challenge videos. I’ve noticed that the egmp vehicles drop efficiency substantially with speed. I’m guessing this is due to motor design that seems to prioritize efficiency at lower speeds. The motor spins really fast, well over 10k rpm at the speeds you were driving. My Ioniq5 Limited AWD used to get the same efficiency around town as my partner’s Model 3 LR AWD did, despite having much larger/wider tires, more weight, etc, but it would diverge at highway speeds. I think Hyundai/Kia has improved this with the next gen motors and dual mode inverters in the EV9 (which gets almost the same efficiency around town and at reasonable speeds on the highway) so maybe that will get passed to the other egmp cars as well

[@sprockkets]

This is a good theory as to why the i6 isn't as good as it should be. It has a slightly better cd than even the new m3.

[@swecreations]

For the Ioniq 5 the reason the efficiency is worse at higher speeds is because the aerodynamics are much worse than the Model 3.

[@Tazdeviloo7]

The EV 9 is the first mainstream EV that can run its motor in delta or wye to optimize its efficiency for slow or fast speeds. Pretty innovative stuff

[@sprockkets]

@@Tazdeviloo7 Munro ppl are the first ppl to make that observation. I'm not convinced. Delta vs Wye in typical uses is done because wye has 33% less starting current so as not to overload a circuit. Once the motor gets up to speed, it will switch to delta for full performance. Since inverter driven motors do not have this problem to begin with, I'm not sure why Hyundai/Kia did it. It also means you have another inverter set to fail.

[@Tazdeviloo7]

@@sprockkets They don’t have a separate inverter, it’s just separate switches to configure the inverter in different ways. The inverter is also used for charging so it’s more of an all in one type piece like their ICCU AC charger/inverter or Tesla’s 8 way manifold.

[@Mkg254]

I was insanely impressed with this vehicle!

[@pault4905]

I have a 2024 Ioniq 6 SEL AWD. The crazy thing about your test is that the Ioniq 6 has a 77.4 kw battery and you are comparing it to other cars that have 100+ kw batteries. As a percentage, the Ioniq 6 is just better if the temps aren't cold. The miles/kwh drop in the cold is measurable for sure. But compared to the Taycan and Lucid price, there isn't a better value on the market (maybe the Model 3 but still have to consider the battery size). And my Tesla friends actually prefer the Ioniq 6 build quality over the Tesla.

[@dianewallace6064]

I have 2024 Ioniq6 AWD SE. 38K in Winston-Salem North Carolina. Efficiency 2.5 mi/kwh in winter and 4 mi/kwh in summer. Tesla owners and High Schoolers come look at my car when I go to Cars and Coffees.

[@electricvehiclesug256]

Actually, it's not about a battery size. it's about how much energy (kwh) a car receives with in 15min which is independent of a pack size. And the better the car, means has a great charging curve with in 15mins. Battery size come into play, if we charge all cars to a same percentage regardless time taken

[@nhazittas]

​@@electricvehiclesug256definetly some goldilocks ballance, between bigger battery = higher charge rate (typically) , but bigger battery = more weight to move around

[@205rider8]

Great car. Styling is a little weird. But I guess form follow function.

[@MrTekniqs]

My sister was driving a Tesla and I asked her to come with me to test drive the Ioniq 5,6 and she wants to get an Ioniq 6 now. I got the Ioniq 5 myself

[@SpottedSharks]

Love the Ioniq styling. It evokes the old Saabs. Although it was inadvertent, I also like the voice-over in this video. Maybe something to consider for others.

[@KingTechHD]

Love my Ioniq 6 SEL AWD it’s a great drive and I love the style. My first EV and people still love checking it out after 7 months

[@TheLetsboogiedown]

Personally, I like the design and I wish more manufacturers would take risks.

[@lanceareadbhar]

This has been my favorite EV since it's come out while I am not too surprised it's not selling that well in the US given our love for SUVs, I think is the best bang for your buck EV assuming you don't need the extra storage lost compared to an SUV like vehicle, and am okay getting the lowest trim that has the bigger battery.

[@BrianTRice77]

I bought a slightly used Ioniq 6 SE long range, and road tripped it from SF to Wisconsin, and this car handled every charge very quickly and consistently. The slick aerodynamics were also a helpful aspect in high wind conditions across Utah, Wyoming, and Nebraska. It was pretty clear that other drivers were having more trouble in gusts. I generally kept the battery between 20% and 90% and only topped up in a very few situations. One feature the car has if you go past 80% is that it slows charging right around there to level off the cells, and with the battery cooling system, fast charging appears to be handled very well so there shouldn’t be too much battery aging from fast charging.

[@BrianTRice77]

Honestly, the only real problem I had was with the reliability of charging stations! 😂

[@BrianTRice77]

I will say that my efficiency in Nebraska was also low, but higher elsewhere. At home in California, I often get 4mi/kWh or higher, even at high speeds. I think Nebraska is just pretty challenging with the winds.

[@anthonyc8499]

Dang, the Ioniq 6 is at the top tier of EV road trippers and to think the 2025 will be even better with a bigger battery and even faster charging.

[@KidKingdomHearts]

Plus NACS!

[@anthonyc8499]

@@KidKingdomHearts NACS is only a big deal if it can maximize charging speeds on Superchargers

[@johnwheat1542]

I am currently leasing a 2024 Ioniq 6 with the same trim level you tested here, and I am very excited to read your findings because they closely match my casual observations. Specifically, the car absolutely does charge insanely fast. It consistently outperforms my expectations and completes the charge sooner than I expected. I have road-tripped in a number of different EV‘s, and Ioniq 6 is definitely the fastest charging one that I have tried Also, you’re findings about efficiency at higher speeds match what I have observed as well. Range definitely drops off a bit at higher speeds. Something like 2.7 or 2.8 mi./kWh at 80 mph is roughly the same rate I have been seeing 14:06 . Again, I have not tried to do precise calculations, but your numbers look very similar to. what I have been getting. I did a 1500 mile road trip about six weeks ago and my mileage ranged anywhere from 2.6 to 5.4 miles/kWh at different times depending on variables that included speed, temperature, wind speed & direction, slope with a highway. All of those things and some others can affect your range. in any case, overall the Ioniq 6 is an absolute road trip beast as long as you don’t speed too much. You’re going to get over 300 miles of range on the battery and you’re going to recharge faster than almost anything else out there. Great stuff! I’m inspired to hit the road again.

[@CaptRedRoach]

Great job Ryan!

[@johnlabernik4599]

Would really love to see an Ioniq 5 10% challenge. It’s Hyundai’s best selling EV by far.

[@LenaKomarova-md9ke]

The edits is so smooth, appreciated it!

[@JasonSimmonsfield]

Thats madness

[@TeslaSnap]

Ryan killed it! Well done!

[@1973Hog]

10:49 We have a 2024 Ioniq 6 Limited RWD rated at 305 miles and we’ve found that driving at 65 miles per hour we can get approximately 4.0 mi/kwh. I am in Central Florida which is relatively flat but we do have some rolling hills in my area here West of Orlando.

[@simplygregsterev]

This is such an amazing but underrated EV.

[@andrzejz4218]

The driving aids sucks, and the styling is... "polarising" (to be diplomatic). I'm not saying it's a bad package (the technical part is great), but these quirks seems to be harder to swallow than Tesla's lack of stalks and minimalistic design. I still appriciate competition and can totally understand why you'd pick it over TM3HL.

[@malcolmbennett3555]

wow, very interesting results Ryan.......dollar for dollar beats the Porsche and Lucid and like the styling more than Tesla IMHO

[@alanpeterson6768]

I have both an Ioniq 6 SE AWD and Ioniq 5 LTD AWD. The 6 is an awesome road tripper and I'm really surprised at the low efficiency you achieved. At 78mph I'm typically around 3.6. My only real complaint about the 6 is the really good range is only in the SE trim. If you want the features of SEL or Limited trim, you lose 50 miles of range. You pay more to get less. I don't know why they put those big, unnecessary, range killing tires on an otherwise great car.

[@JacGoudsmit]

My Ioniq 5 was built on the same EGMP platform and the fast charging was one of the main reasons why I chose that EV in particular. However, the problem with having one of the fastest charging EV's, is that whenever you go to an EV charging station and there are a number of other EV's in line, you realize that YOU have the longest wait while the OTHERS (who are waiting behind you) know that their wait will be shorter because of YOUR fast charging. It just seems unfair to have to wait in line for a whole hour for a 15 minute charge. :-)

[@dianewallace6064]

I LOVE Jiselle my 2024 Ioniq6 AWD SE (38K in North Cacalaki). 2.5 mi/kwh in winter. 4 mi/kwh in summer.

[@craigrobben4895]

Great info Ryan. I also would like to see how the Ioniq 5 and EV6 compare. And it sure was nice of your orthopedist to let you do the recording from one of their exams rooms.

[@alancobbin]

Cheers fella 👍💪

[@TheoPhilpot]

A buddy just got a SEL awd and it’s kinda irritatingly good

[@PercivalDunlop]

How you tell stories is amazing!

[@fiehlsport]

Ah yes, PercivalDunlop, the totally real person

[@ignasanchezl]

I want an Ioniq 6 I just wish the trunk was a little larger.

[@dianewallace6064]

The back seats go down. You can fit a bike in the back.

[@ignasanchezl]

Yeah I know that's a possibility but id like a car where I could roadtrip with 3 or more people and equipment.

[@dianewallace6064]

@ignasanchezl Understood. Plus I can't fast charge at Superchargers or Rivian Network so that's very limiting. My husband has an R1T and he can charge at Superchargers and RAN.

[@cloudpandarism2627]

got my SU7 today and it charges at 310kw peak. jesus... super happy with the performance.

[@wackit6756]

Like the quirkiness of this car….But did anyone ever tell you that you look like Toby McGuire? 😉

[@natehill8069]

I assume the "handshake" time starts when you try to connect to the first charger and keeps running until you finally plug into one that works.

[@orangustang7253]

It's worth noting that the E-GMP cars don't precondition the battery below 20% SOC. It looks like charging still ramped up pretty quickly and got up to the 240ish kw peak we usually see, so I don't think this hurt your session much if at all. It may explain the higher initial charging time estimate though. Impressive results. Good job!

[@Blade70]

Good job Hyundai.

[@johnpoldo8817]

Fabulous range in Ioniq 6, but disappointed with 2.8 mi/kWh. I rented a Kia Niro which is smaller and average efficiency in eco mode is 4.8 mi with periods greater than 5.2. I think Ryan’s low efficiency is due to 80 mph speed. I wish this test was done at 70 or 75 mph. Many parts of the country you’ll get a citation at 80 mph.

[@chinotarareono7678]

I just thought about it but it would also be interesting if out of spec starts doing cold efficiency tests on the vehicles. Seeing how well efficient some vehicles are to others. And how long it will take to warm up the vehicle. I think these test make be good to check out. And also can include cold weather road tripping and what to do in these conditions for EV'S. It is that time again and some that are not aware of how to use their EV'S in the cold can learn a bit from the best.

[@thomasramos7164]

Wish you can re-test at around 70F ambient (similar to the test temp of the Tesla 3) to get more accurate results for better comparison rather than speculative. At a colder temp (44F vs 77F) the range was grater than the range traveled by the Tesla; but how would the efficiency compare? I believe that it would not beat the efficiency of the Tesla but it would be so much closer, and increasing even more range just recertify it as the road king car to buy (or lease) at this price segment for sure! It's more comfortable inside, better construction, more bang for your buck in general. Let's not forget soon you'll add the Tesla Superstations to your wide array of charging destinations already available. Just another cherry on top of the cake.

[@lagautmd]

Extremely good review and test. Please get a more relevant backdrop in the future. Hip and knee replacements are not a great fit.

[@abraxastulammo9940]

Can you test the ID7 pro s?

[@hennersl]

You mention in your introduction at 4:40 and in the voice over while you're driving at 9:21 that you were going to use the ECO drive settings - But this cannot be seen on the dash during your drive? This car put in an excellent result regardless, but could it have done better had you used ECO mode as suggested?

[@ouch1011]

It doesn’t show eco on the dash when the cruise control is on

[@hennersl]

@@ouch1011 The regen level infomation will disappear during cruise control operation, but the selected drive mode will still be displayed if it's set to anything other than Normal.

[@patrick7228]

I would love for you guys to do a poll because given wait times at chargers and broken charger possibilities, I think the average viewer thinks 10% is too low to pull in on a road trip as well. Could be wrong but it would be interesting to see what your audience actually does.

[@tomm5936]

I think that would be interesting but the poll should be combined with how long you have been driving an EV (people new to EVs probably don’t drive them down low) and where you live. I know most viewers are in the U.S. but here in Europe there are far more chargers now and I never wait anymore.

[@patrick7228]

@@tomm5936 Great point. I was definitely thinking U.S. You're lucky.

[@lkuhn65]

Did I see that this car had a horizontal crack emanating from the right? Seems that windshields don't hold these days. Perhaps too thin trying to minimize weight and cost.

[@dianewallace6064]

More Ryan and Max!!!

[@jelloMohnny]

Fast charging cars are really only a difference maker if there is newer, faster DCFC stations along the routes you will travel most. This car, along the main highway I travel most / road trip most, won't charge much faster than my '22 Mach-E . Looks great on paper, but in real life be sure the routes you travel have the equipment to match, otherwise you'll end up disappointed. Before you ask, the highway in question is the busiest in North America, not a two-lane backwater. Same for charging at Tesla with a NACS adapter - not all cars with 800v architectures charge fast there either.

[@timovneerden]

Some of the efficiency loss might come from : ‑ the HVAC to cool the battery after charging (~5% consumption). ‑ the preconditioning (10%) - tires pressure a bit low (I tend to overinflate a bit) Regarding that, except when really cold, and given the high range of the car, I like doing smaller charges more often, like 10-50 % or 30-70 %. So the charging remains great, but I unplug before the battery gets very hot (I unplug when it exceeds 40-45 °C (105-110 °F), typically). So it won’t drain my battery on cooling it, and it’s a bit more efficient. Charging fast is very nice and useful, but when you’re not in a hurry, it’s better not to stress it. When charging full speed (240 kW), it heats up fast. I also like charging on 150 or 175 kW chargers. It takes like 25-30 minutes instead of 15-20, but the battery doesn’t heat nearly as much (and it’s nice to see the car maxing out that poor charger). Battery temp management is a bit agressive on this car. Even in cold temps, it uses A/C to cool it even while driving, when it could just use cold ambiant air (saving extra energy). It is however very effective, and it might be a good thing in the long run regarding degradation.

[@sprockkets]

@@timovneerden that seems weird given that Hyundai has 3 heat exchangers up front.

[@timovneerden]

@@sprockkets One can see the power drainage from power train / air-co / accessories / battery heating (pre-conditionning) or cooling (post-conditionning ?). When batt cooling is active, after an intense charging station, the battery post-co drains about 2 kW. That means the A/C chiller is active for the battery. But when it’s 10 °C outside (50 °F), I think regular air should be enough. Sure, what do I know, but a bit of intelligence might be put into all this, taking into account batt temp, air-temp, air speed and evaluating the need for A/C or not. On the other hand, when battery is toasty, and when one pots on the cabin heater, it drains no power : heat is extracted from the battery cooling circuit into the cabin heating circuit, though a dual-circuit heat exchanger (Ioniq 6 and late Ioniq 5 only). Which is a very good thing. So they did some good work, but it might be even better, IMHO.

[@aikafuwa7177]

Is the windshield cracked?

[@GlitterGuru]

Why are you paying for the charge if it’s an EA station? Is 2 year free charging only in CA?

[@lioneaglegriffin]

Essentially why I got the I6, didn't want a tesla and it was the 'best of the rest' in terms of non-luxury EVs.

[@BremboT]

Looks better in person

[@HueMann]

Please do the Ioniq 5 next!

[@TelekinesisStudios]

Hyundai efficiency is STRONGLY affected by temperature. If you do the test again when it’s 65 degrees up to about 90 degrees, it will perform much better. Far more than 5 miles of difference. It’s wild. Basically a different car in warm weather. Speaking as a 2023 ioniq 5 owner.

[@KyleConner]

Perhaps - but we had everything pre-warmed so once you’re up to temp the main difference should be the higher air density (which we are already at high elevation to combat that)

[@Lor-dn1vz]

@@KyleConner Slightly more heating power used and the internal resistance of the batteries in colder temperatures (I assume after about 20-30 minutes of driving the battery was cooled back down to ambient temp) will add another 5-10% or so of efficiency between 49F and 70F probably. Not earth shattering but not nothing. Definitely a bigger impact once you get down to 0F

[@dianewallace6064]

Mine is 4 mi/kwh in summer, 2.5 in winter. 2024 Ioniq6 AWD SE.

[@Icayn]

I suspect there is a charging speed vs long term reliability compromise OEMs make. Hyundai is not known for their concern with long term reliability.

[@barryw9473]

E-GMP + aero =💪🏻

[@eclecticcyclist]

I didn't notice any mention of tyre type and size selection which could have affected efficiency results.

[@dianewallace6064]

18 inch wheels

[@magnifikus3]

Wonder how the battery sustains this C-rate, thats just brutal...

[@Aztasu]

Tesla uses a similar max C rate on their models

[@magnifikus3]

@@Aztasu yeah peak at low soc, but not the entire curve

[@ouch1011]

The 77kwh battery has an incredibly low internal resistance and is designed for high input/output current…at the expense of size (it’s huge for its capacity) and $$. The EV9 uses a less performant but larger capacity battery. It still charges very well, but the 99kwh battery charges slower than the 77kwh. Partly due to the lower voltage, but mostly due to the higher internal resistance.

[@Aztasu]

​@@ouch1011 that's the thing. The temperature could increase during charging because of internal resistance and with high amps. The fully 800V E-GMP cars use low amps during charging and their battery has very low internal resistance. As long as your temperature stays within a normal range the main stressor is the max C charge rate. I do not think the batteries inside the 800V E-GMP cars get much hotter than the ones in the Tesla models. And chemistry is slightly different but there is no big difference in general thermal capabilites of those battery cells. The E-GMP cars simply have better thermal capabilites and better BMS and better system volts architecture which allows them to keep the charging curve more stable.

[@PJWey]

Shame it’s not as efficient as the original Ioniq. Wonder when this will get native NACS?

[@dianewallace6064]

My efficiency is summer in North Carolina is 4 mi/kwh. In winter, 2.5 mi/kwh. 2024 Ioniq6 AWD SE.

[@MandyFlame]

I get 3.5 m/kwh out of my Ioniq 5 on a motorway. But then I drive at 70mph (speed limit here in the UK) and not 80mph.

[@MarkAnthony-vn7er]

26$ dollars to wait 18mins y'all been bamboozled that's already comparable to gas prices plus you lose your precious time. They suckered you guys are into thinking those vehicles was a better option I'm not attacking you per se just all who think that it's not it's a form of control

[@consolemaster]

Agreed, I feel tricked. Buying the Model S was a mistake. While it was nice to drive with fast acceleration and quiet operation, I'm disappointed that I only get 200 miles after charging for 20 minutes. I'm forced to stop for 20 minutes no matter what, even if someone else could take over driving while I rest. Thankfully, I got rid of it. Some EV owners ask, 'You drive more than 200 miles a day?' No, but if I only have one car and like to travel on weekends, I don't want to waste time planning around chargers." Another EV owner asked, 'You don't need to pee or eat?' I don't need to use the bathroom every 2 hours; a quick 2-3 minute walk to pee is enough. Plus, I can eat with one hand.

[@mowcowbell]

The shocking number was the .56 per kWh cost. I charge at home for .14 per kWh.

[@Bum_Hip]

People who run their batteries down to 10% or lower on a road trip are a special kind of adventurous. Not me man. I can’t do it. I Never run below 20% if I can help it. You never know if the charger you’re going to will be operating, or if there is long line.

[@krzysztofh6308]

I wish they did 20% challenge. Same rules, 15 min charging, but from 20%, wich, I would argue, is what most people do. It would be fun to watch the change in distance added. It would put every tesla if not every ev to the average road tripper range.

[@swecreations]

The microphone quality isn't the best in this video sadly, would get a Røde Wireless mic.

[@dianewallace6064]

Test was at 59 degrees per the Driver Screen.

[@abraxastulammo9940]

Would have been better consumption with camera mirrors 😜

[@jeffs6090]

You said 21 minutes to 80% is more than the stated 18 minutes Hyundai claims. I thought the 18 minutes was 20-80%. You're starting at 10%, so that's why it'll be longer.

[@DirectCurrentRides]

Hyundai's claim is 10 to 80 in 18.

[@dianewallace6064]

Mine charges 10% to 80% in 18 minutes at a 350kw Electrify America cabin. 2024 Ioniq6 AWD SE.

[@bikeaddictbp]

21 minutes was the original guess on the screen; the actual charging session was heading towards being 18 or 19 minutes had it continued to 80% - and that's with climate control on. Hyundai's claim doesn't include climate control simultaneously operating. I am thinking that if this charge were to be done with the car off (and not sitting in the car with climate control on) it would have actually done 18 minutes from 10 to 80 percent. That's really good.

[@LearningFast]

Once EVs reach 200+ miles in this test the test itself will become irrelevant. I wonder how long that will be.

[@BBingo-v5i]

Honestly, we are already there. Next gen EVs can charge with 5.5C already, that would translate to 10% to 90% SoC in 15min. So your range of SoC usable for the 10% challenge would be 80% of the total net capacity. If 80% of net capacity corresponds to 67kWh, which would be the case if the battery has 84kWh net capacity, then you would drive 200+ miles if your efficiency would be 3mi/kWh at 80mph. I do not know any specific model which precisely fits this criteria. The Zeekr 007 with its 5.5C 75kWh LFP battery just hasn't enough capacity. However, you could also just increase the battery net capacity and still charge more range at the same time with a reduced charging speeds. The Li Auto Mega with its 5C 103kWh battery fits this criteria, but it is not efficient enough as an MPV. The Zeekr 007 has an optional 4C 100kWh NMC battery which charges from 10-80% in 15min. That means you are able to use 70% of the total net capacity for this test. If the 100kWh battery means that you have 96kWh net usable between 0% SoC and 100% SoC, then the Zeekr 007 would recharge 67.2kWh in 15min. That would be enough to drive over 200 miles in this test if the efficiency would be 2.98mi/kWh or better. That should be realistically achievable for the Zeekr 007. So yes, we are already there.

[@Chris28mmz]

"...Such Crazy Fast Charging..." See also: Hyundai Ioniq 5, Kia EV6, Kia EV9. Once you go 800v, you'll never go back!

[@dusty-vo8gh]

It would have been nicer if the car's lights inside and outside the had been turned on. It was kind of dark in the intro. It still was a great video.

[@acde9355]

I realise that American car reviewers usually put a lot of emphasis on the supercharging speed of each EV while less conscious of the charging bill behind the rapid charging service. I think to make EVs more affordable, ensuring a lower ownership cost is the highest priority.

[@DinoSpumoni213]

Tobey Maguire, is that you?

[@herbfst]

Let's all ignore the $.65/kw. Completely negates the point of going electric.

[@CielMC]

13:00 handhsake time D:

[@tazeat]

CCS needs to fix those absurdly long handshakes. Millions of minutes wasted across all charging sessions.

[@rossm9200]

The backseat makes this only acceptable for people that are tiny.

[@uutube243]

100% correct I've own 6 different variations. In Vegas once temps below 50 the 6 will lose 75 miles of range at 100% charge. Can't imagine having ev in cold weather temps it would cut range in half easily. All kias and Hyundais two different cars in hot or cold temps.

[@tomm5936]

I drive a Kia EV6 and live in cold climate. Yes the range is much shorter (20% is my estimate when at freezing and 30% when it’s really cold). I cannot see how you get to “cut range in half easily”. I will say I have the heat pump which in my opinion should be standard in cold climates.

[@ThorCleavelandson]

I love my ICE Kona and trust Hyundai quality, but I’m still leaning toward Tesla because of their track record and Elon Musk😊

[@ouch1011]

Why on earth would you want to buy a Tesla _because of_ Musk? He is the sole reason that I will not buy another one until Tesla completely divests him and denounces his actions. The guy is brilliant but scum.

[@Kimbrough87]

do this test at 55mph

[@michaelrichter2528]

Who drives only 55mph on a roadtrip?

[@Kimbrough87]

@@michaelrichter2528 me

[@ATICrossX]

Too bad it's one of the ugliest things out there lol

[@wesleypulkka7447]

Why do you test at a speed that will get you ticketed in any state of the union? It's silly!

[@Lor-dn1vz]

Plenty of highways with 75 or 80 mph speed limits out there where 80 won't get you a ticket. do agree though that 70 is probably a better approximation of average road trip speed across the US but proportionately it is the same result either way.

[@dianewallace6064]

OOS has a West Coast bias.😂🤣

[@ouch1011]

80 is the speed most people drive nowadays. Even where I live, the maximum speed limit is 65, but people routinely drive 80+ . I don’t personally because I value my safety and energy usage more than getting somewhere a couple minutes sooner, but most others don’t. Plus, across the middle of the country, there are places with 75-80mph speed limits. So, it’s a more realistic test for most people.

[@Harrythehun]

Still a fugly car, doesn't matter how fast it charges it is still unbuyable for me.

[@consolemaster]

It's frustrating to pay $20 and wait 20 minutes for only 200 miles of charge. I can see why you'd prefer a Prius! Getting 600 miles of range for $30 in under 3 minutes is much more appealing.

[@TheReal_JG]

This is more for road trip purposes. Most everybody plugs in at home during off peak hours, which is a lot less expensive, and wake up to a full battery.

[@Snerdles]

This is one of the reasons I got my little Hyundai Ioniq PHEV back in 2021. At that time I was doing regular 800km road trips, and I still do sometimes, but there was literally only one 50kw charger on my usual route. That would have meant over an hour for this similar range in the video. In my PHEV it is rated for 1000km, but I realistically get over 900 on real world trips so I can fill up the day before and I make it home without ever needing to stop for anything other than washroom or snacks/drinks. I've taken to plugging in my car to level 2 chargers just to time my stops and it is almost always 7-12 minutes. So this is why I've set my benchmark for getting an EV is 3 hours of highway driving in 15 minutes of charging. No EV is even close right now.

[@tomm5936]

@@Snerdlesif you can afford a Porsche Taycan, it is close in my opinion. There’s a video from about a week ago where they did 199 miles in this test.

[@Snerdles]

@@tomm5936 A Porsche is more expensive than my house . . .

[@tomm5936]

@@Snerdles it’s way out of my budget too, just saying there’s one at least for now. We will have to wait for something in our price range.

[@MrTechysal]

All this to charge one of the ugliest cars made…. Just buy a used model 3 standard range and you will charge for less and with far more reliability

[@morten_hannesbo]

Not sure about this design🫣