Hyundai Ioniq Electric vs Kia Niro EV

[@bartverbruggen4761]

Nice video. Just my 2 cents about the location of the charging port. I have driven the Ioniq (first gen) for 2 years and now drive the e-niro for almost a year, with a leaf in between. I actually prefer the charge port in the front. It makes it a lot easier to charge at fast chargers, where you generally (in Europe at least) park perpendicular in front of the charger. Although, the icing is indeed something to take into account, but it hasn't bothered me that much for now. In all honesty, I haven't taken a winter snowboarding trip (2020 ... you know) in the e-Niro, whereas I did in the Ioniq. The biggest problem with having the charging port in the back at the driver's side was for me not it being in the back, but it being at the driver's side. I lived in an apartment building when I had the ioniq, so I had to parallel park next to a road side AC charger from time to time, and I was always worried someone would hit the cable when passing by. Maybe that's because I did already lose a mirror before with a previous car, parked in more or less the same spot. So, after writing this down... I really do prefer the charging port in the front over driverside back, but maybe the curbside back would be even better... but I have too little experience with that kind of car Oh, and my ioniq did have ventilated seats... but no sunroof

[@skibikebee7221]

Thanks for the great video. I love my Ioniq and I test drove a Kona three days ago. I think what you said about the Ioniq is spot on.

[@EV-olution]

My pleasure, I am glad you liked it, and thanks for watching 😎

[@smallmj2886]

If I had to pick between the two, I would take the Niro because I have tall kids. My 14 year old son is 6'1" with a few years of growth left to go. I checked out the Ioniq and the Kona a couple years ago and the back seat headroom in both was terrible for me at 6'2".

[@EV-olution]

I agree, the rear passenger headroom is better in the Niro EV because of the car's shape.

[@G7-Laval]

As usual, another great video. In Montreal area as well and your videos have helped me decide to go EV for my next vehicle. My biggest hesitancy was range in winter.... alas not really a concern anymore (heat pump is a must). Already have a deposit on the Ioniq 5. Like what I've read / seen about it thus far. Considering FLO as my charger since it is rated for -40C.

[@EV-olution]

Thank you very much and I am glad I could help; that is the main reason I do this stuff 😎. Range won't be an issue in the winter for 99.9% of people when considering modern EVs. Have you seen my video about EVs at -20C? Your choice of the Ioniq 5 is excellent, I am looking at the Kia EV6. Regarding the EVSE, I have the Flo X5 and love it, but you can also look at the product from La Station Verte, I have one of those as well and it is also excellent in the winter. You can see both in a video I made about them.

[@ellistreloar2047]

Excellent video André. My son has the Ioniq and I have the E Niro. We make similar observations as you explain here. The Ioniq space in the rear seats is more cramped when you have three people in there, or two adults and a child seat. The swept C pillars impede shoulder and headspace. The upright, taller design of the E Niro does not constrain space in the upper cabin.

[@EV-olution]

Thank you very much. As pointed out by another viewer, the DC charging speed is slower in the Ioniq. Have you done a side by side charging comparison?

[@mikehedrick6544]

André, great video showing the similarities and differences between the two vehicles. 👍

[@EV-olution]

Thank you, I appreciate it.

[@jacobm3094]

Thanks for putting the measurements in cm aswell! And thanks for the review - Looking at used cars and its very useful

[@EV-olution]

Centimeters are important, I am Canadian 😎. I am glad my video was helpful and thanks for watching.

[@AzizIzgin]

I own the ioniq since 5 months ago and we love it. The only downside is that the trunk is very small. Can one attach a tow bar/hook in the back to mount something for extra space of luggage you think? The e-niro is much better where you could place luggage on top of each other… Great video!

[@EV-olution]

Thank you very much. In Canada the Ioniq is not rated to tow, nor is the Niro EV. I know that in Europe the Niro EV is rated to tow, but I am not sure about the Ioniq. You could get a roof rack, Thule seems to have a system for your car, as dows Yakima.

[@yingmustang67]

In the Netherlands you can tow with the Kia e Niro about 750 kg, so I am going to upgrade with a tow bar. ❤

[@danielsidaway719]

I've had a peek at the Ioniq 5 and EV 6 as you suggested, and I must say that they are more to my liking, save for the nutty creased door skins and wheels that belong on my Skill saw as seen on the Ioniq 5. All they would have to do is put the nose of the Ioniq 5 on the EV 6, and I'll be a happy camper in the Kia.

[@Guerrierduplaisir]

Un excellent travail encore une fois. Bravo!

[@EV-olution]

Merci beaucoup.

[@automotivewoman4365]

Great job on your first car review!!!!!

[@EV-olution]

Thanks.

[@adofoi30]

As A 6ft person the Ioniq is only suitable for me and no one behind me. If my 5ft wife is in the passenger seat someone can sit behind her. In the Niro I can sit behind myself and not feel cramped. I had really wanted to get that super efficient Ioniq!

[@EV-olution]

Thanks for the information. When I was younger I wanted to be 6' tall, but today I am quite happy with 5'8”, I fit into more cars more comfortably 😎

[@jdalsII]

This is the exact reason I traded my Ioniq in for the Niro. Had the Ioniq for a month. Couldn’t fit anyone behind me. In the Niro, 4 passengers can fit comfortably.

[@EV-olution]

The Niro EV definitely offers more overall rear passenger room than the Ioniq Electric. I guess it boils down to daily use; if you rarely put passengers in the back then the Ioniq is perfect for lots of people. This is the point I am struggling with regarding the new Kia EV6. The rear seems to have less head room due to the sloping roofline; it bothers me that there is less rear space, but in the end I don’t have passengers in the back all that often. I guess I will see when I get to actually sit in it 😎.

[@jdalsII]

I bought the Ioniq bc I planned to use it as a commuter. We have a a Telluride for when we are towing kids and their sports equipment. However the gas savings was made it so tempting to drive the Ioniq instead of the SUV. But it was waaay too tight with anyone in the back. For a passenger behind me I had to sit close to the steering wheel. We also couldn’t fit lacrosse sticks bc of the sloped roof. For the most part it’s a commuter, but we found it’s nice to have the space when we need it. We even lost some features when we traded the Ioniq in. Also, the Ioniq sits lower. It hurt my back on long commutes. The Niro feels safer as you can see more. Less stress on my back as I’m more upright.

[@silvialittlewolf]

Thank you for this video. I intend to get an EV soon, and both the Ioniq Electric and the Niro EV are in the run; as are the Kona and the Volvo XC40.

[@EV-olution]

You are very welcome. I hope you have fun shopping for the right EV for your needs.

[@tjs114]

While the platforms are shared between the Niro EV and the Ioniq EV, the drivetrain of the Niro EV is shared with the Kona EV and the Soul EV, except that the battery packs. Originally the battery packs for the Kona EV (and the Ioniq EV) was from LG Chem, while the Niro and Soul EVs sourced battery packs from SK Innovations. That's why the 'Kona catching fire' problem hasn't effected the Niro & Soul EVs. Apparently Hyundai is sourcing SK Innovation packs for the Kona & Ioniq starting with the 2021 models.

[@EV-olution]

Yes, you are correct. Thank you.

[@dcvariousvids8082]

How long does it take you to make a presentation? Always informative and equally amusing. Thank you.

[@EV-olution]

As a general rule of thumb, to calculate the time needed to make one of my videos is usually equal to the number of minutes of the video, times 2, in hours. So a 15 minute video is about 30 hours of work for me. Some videos are more complicated and take longer, like the wireless backup camera video, and some take a bit less. Thanks for watching 😎

[@pacifique73]

Très intéressante comparaison. J'aime beaucoup ma Ioniq. Son volume de chargement était d'ailleurs un argument qui a penché en sa faveur.

[@Wheels-and-Lanes]

Nice comparison of the two EVs. I'm planning to buy the 2020 Ioniq limited here in the US for Uber but when I looked at the pictures it looks the hump on the rear floor is too high. In this video the 2020 Ioniq ultimate looks it has lower hump in the rear floor. Do the Ionic limited & ultimate have differences in the rear floor or is it just the angle of the puctures I looked at?

[@EV-olution]

Thank you, and no, there is no difference between the limited and ultimate chassis. It must be the angle that makes it look different to you.

[@Wheels-and-Lanes]

@@EV-olution Thank you for the clarification.

[@tomgrant4522]

Great video - I'm trying to decide between the two right now and this video is super helpful.

[@EV-olution]

Thanks! I am glad I could help.

[@yingmustang67]

Like I have mention before, I have driving ( 1,5 year ) a Hyundai Ioniq 28 KWh and of course I looked at the 2020 with the bigger 38 KWh capacity. I am really happy that my choices fell for the Kia e Niro 2019. Yes, I rather have the 2020 vers but I got a great deal with the 2019 vers, but still I am really happy about it. Yesss the trunk was just a bit shorter, that was my first notice about it. The ride is really the same, but just a big higher. So my e Niro checks all my wishes, Rang, comfort, looks, Crossover, practically and crazy fast acceleration! Maybe the next one could be a Kia EV 6.........❤😂❤ Greetings from the Netherlands!

[@EV-olution]

Congratulations on your choice, the e-Niro. It is a great car and I loved mine for the 3 years and 58,000km that I had it. I agree with all of your points about the car, it is great. And, yes, the EV6 is amazing. I love mine 😎

[@yingmustang67]

​@EV-olution That's why there's a good reason that I watched your videos! ❤🎉

[@berny_electric_22]

Tanks to this good comparison. Can you tell what was the size of the wintertire on the Ioniq? Thanks 😉🤙👋

[@EV-olution]

He had 16 inch stock size tires, I am not sure what it is, I would have to Google it.

[@MichaelK-lz7jk]

Like the Outtakes. And my Ioniq FL😁

[@CaroAbebe]

Thanks! I did want to get a used 28kWh Ioniq, however, they’re not easily come by.

[@EV-olution]

They are great cars, people hold onto them.

[@benellis7427]

What was the extra 5 inches of depth for the Ioniq boot? Great video, just what I need when looking to buy one.

[@EV-olution]

The boot of the Ioniq Electric is 5 inches longer (length from back of rear seats to edge of boot lip) because there is more rear overhang than in the Niro EV. Thank you vey much. I am glad I could help.

[@marlonlicup10]

Great review! Funny bloopers!

[@EV-olution]

Thank you very much, I am glad you liked it 😎

[@Isaac-un4cn]

One other difference which you didn't get a chance to try out - the DC fast charging speed in the Ioniq is significantly slower than the Niro.

[@EV-olution]

Thank you, I forgot to do that, or ask about it. Thanks for pointing that out, I will remember to do that in my next comparison video.

[@CaroAbebe]

The 28kWh version of the Ioniq charges pretty fast, actually, the 2020 version is somewhat disappointing in that regard.

[@EV-olution]

@@CaroAbebe I think it is more of a question that the 28kWh battery is very small and is inherently faster to charge. Like my son's previous car the Spark EV, it would charge in the blink of an eye because it had a very small battery.

[@magnusenorson]

@@EV-olution No, that's not it. The 28kWh Ioniq charges @ up to 70kW on CCS (in practice it does 60kW all the way from empty up to some 80%). The 38kWh version has a totally different charging curve which maxes at 50kW, but also quickly tapers off - only does about 38-40kW between 60 and 80% SOC, for instance.

[@EV-olution]

@@magnusenorson that surprises me. I thought the 38kWh 2020 Ioniq and Soul EV had the same charging speed as the 64kWh version of the Soul EV and its cousins. Thanks for pointing that out. I just looked it up and the 38kWh battery only goes to 50kW whereas the 64kWh battery goes to 77kW (from personal experience) which was a surprise to me since it is supposed to be 70kW from everything I had read in 2019. Thanks again.

[@Joe-lb8qn]

I much prefer the main display of the Ioniq to the Niro, looks more modern.I have a Soul which is teh same as the Niro. A relative has an Ioniq and is getting close to 200 miles, so the 300km the Ioniq driver is reporting seems reasonable.

[@EV-olution]

I agree that the Niro should have had a better display, less analog and more digital. The nice thing is that the new generation is all screen.

[@klaidaslaurynaskalade9001]

Hi. First great videos whit huge amount of useful information and very detailed... Love it... And second... Have a question about kia e niro 68kw... Maybe you know how much kw of electricity it takes to charge it upp to full battery at home using weakest and more powerful charger at home.... Thanks :)

[@EV-olution]

Thank you very much. I am glad you liked my video. The Niro EV has a useable 64kWh of capacity. I have never had the battery at 0% because that is not great for the battery even if there is a small buffer at the bottom and top of the capacity range made available. The amount of power needed to charge your car will depend on many factors: - Vehicle charging system efficiency (they are not all the same, some are better than others) - Charging station efficiency and power output (they are not all the same, some are better than others) - Outside temperature (cold will reduce charging efficiency) - Battery charge level and temperature - and a couple of other details. So it is not possible to give you a definitive answer as to exactly how much power the Niro EV will use to charge from empty to full, but I can give you and idea of my personal experience. In the summer my Flo X5 has charged my Niro EV using just a few more kW of power than the amount needed. In other words, roughly recalling from memory, when the battery needed 50kWh of refill it would take about 52 or 53kWh of power, but I am really not sure about the number and there is the fact that my car is programmed to cool the cabin at set times when plugged in, in the summer. In the winter it is a different story due to battery and charging station being very cold, so it takes more power, but also because the car uses power to heat the battery when the temperature is very low and I have my car programmed to heat the cabin and defrost the windows every day, when plugged in. I know this is not the answer you were hoping for, but since I never really paid attention to it I don't have a good answer.

[@klaidaslaurynaskalade9001]

@@EV-olution thanks 😊

[@EV-olution]

@@klaidaslaurynaskalade9001 my pleasure.

[@kaloyankaloyanov6197]

Hi Andrew, can you share with me what is you charging habit and your SOH, I will be getting my Nero EV next week and I was wondering what is the best state of charge to keep the car into, and how to preserve 64 kw battery the longer in good health

[@EV-olution]

Good afternoon. My Niro EV still shows 100% state of health (SoH) after 2 years and 40,000km. If I am not going on a long distance trip I charge my car to 90%, but not every day. I charge about 1 or 2 times per week when I need it, since I don't drive that much due to COVID. As a rule of thumb, if you really want to maximize the life of your battery, keep it between 20% and 80% state of charge (SoC) and occasionally charge to 100% to allow the Battery Management System (BMS) balance the cells. With that being said, don't be afraid to use your car below 20% and above 80-90%, the car has a warranty for a reason and there are buffers above and below the SoC that the car shows; That is the reason I charge to 90%. I hope this helps.

[@kaloyankaloyanov6197]

@@EV-olution Thank you so much for taking the time to answer ! Yes I encounter 20% to 80 % rule, so if I understand correctly you are keeping the charge in the above mentioned percentages and during the week and charger let say once or twice a month to 100 %, Your videos were the last drop that make my decision to take the e-Niro. Have a wonderful rest of your day !

[@EV-olution]

@@kaloyankaloyanov6197 it is my pleasure and I am glad I could help 😎. Yes, I charge to 90% all of the time and about once per month I charge to 100%, but I never leave it at 100%, I drive it down. One thing people don't realize is that the 100% is not the real issue, it is leaving at 100% for a long period of time that will degrade the battery. Congratulations on your new eNiro!

[@Bmeri3]

Really nice comparison video. Is the ioniq as low as the Elantra in terms of driver seat height?

[@EV-olution]

Thank you. I have not been in a newer Elantra, but I would guess it is similar.

[@Bmeri3]

@@EV-olution Thanks for the reply. Do you happen to know if the Ioniq is based on the Elantra, or is it a different platform?

[@EV-olution]

@@Bmeri3 the 2020 and up Ioniq Electric is actually based on the Niro EV platform (or vice-versa)

[@CarSceneKorea]

Great review!!

[@EV-olution]

Thank you very much 😎

[@sujeewaw]

Very helpful video - thanks!

[@EV-olution]

You are welcome, and thank you for watching.

[@doubledragon1978]

awesome video. Thank you. so helpful

[@EV-olution]

Thanks, and you are very welcome 😎

[@thomassommer7643]

150 kW is 204 PS. Nice Video.

[@EV-olution]

Thank you very much 😎

[@peterjones6322]

This is Not a Niro EV, that is a different model. The one in the video is the earlier model which is the eNiro.

[@EV-olution]

As I have mentioned in other comments about this car, I am in Canada and in North America there has never been an e-Niro, it has always been called the Niro EV since its introduction in 2019. The new 2023 model year is when Kia decided to make all countries use the same naming as in North America.

[@StanleyDerks]

Do you have the Peugeot e-2008 in Canada?

[@EV-olution]

Unfortunately we don't have many European EVs, like the Zoe, the e-2008, and many others in Canada.

[@StanleyDerks]

@@EV-olution to bad. Thanks anyway and keep up posting videos 👍 (and stay independent, please 😉)

[@bruceleekane4571]

Excellent 👍

[@EV-olution]

Thank you very much.

[@RigiLiquid945]

so what is your average winter range?

[@EV-olution]

In the winter I usually get about 300km. It is more in both cases, but 400 and 300 are nice round numbers 😎

[@EV-olution]

I forgot to mention that I made a video about EVs in the winter and one of the subjects I talk about is range in the winter. You may be interested in the other information I discuss as well so here is the video in question: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJbTkqdrbdeaf7M

[@johnlamprecht7523]

Could you make a video of the Ioniq 5 and the eniro

[@EV-olution]

That is a video I plan on making, but there are only 3 Ioniq 5 cars in Canada and they are 700km from my place at Hyundai Canada headquarters. They had a press event about 3 weeks ago, but people could not drive them, only static videos, and my channel is not big enough yet to have an invitation. I made a request to Hyundai Canada, but got nothing back.

[@spinmouth4114]

Hatch backs masquerading as SUV. Why are EVs lacking in rear head room, ground clearance or cargo capacity? While ICE vehicle have an excuse to squeeze MPG, IMHO EV range shouldn't be favored over read head room, ground clearance, and cargo capacity. Hummer EV and Rivian R1S will give early adopters what I'm looking for, generous real estate on wheels.

[@EV-olution]

You are correct, but neither of these cars are SUVs. The Ioniq is a hatchback styled like a sedan and the Niro is a station wagon; I don't care that they classify it as a CUV, that is simply marketing, it's a station wagon. As of right now the only EV that is on the market that I call an SUV is the Model X. The Hummer and Rivian will add to the category, maybe the Lyriq, but first 3 vehicles are still catering to the high-end marketl We shall see what the Lyriq is like once there are more details and hands-on with it.

[@spinmouth4114]

@@EV-olution Rivian R1S is an true SUV. However, now that Ford showed up with the F-150 Lightning truck starting a t under $40k, nothing will stop competitors demise. Hail the new King! kzbin.info/www/bejne/j5vMpJ1riZWJp6c

[@martialman.4563]

It is not a sedan. Both cars are 5 door hatchbacks, another reason they are so similar.

[@EV-olution]

Technically you are correct, thanks, I added a note in the description of the video to clarify the point. What I wanted to get across in the video is that the Ioniq, although technically a 5 door hatchback, is styled like a sedan. Thanks for the correction.

[@martialman.4563]

@@EV-olution My pleasure, again great channel.

[@EV-olution]

That you very much 😎

[@polodesjardins4340]

tres bon video

[@EV-olution]

Merci, j'apprécie beaucoup 😎

[@govindkhatuwala5257]

When lonched in india

[@EV-olution]

Right now, if I am not mistaken, India only gets the Kona Electric and there is no information that the Ioniq Electric will be sold there, but I don't know for sure. It is also unknown if the new Ioniq 5 will be sold in India. Sorry I can't provide more helpful information.

[@govindkhatuwala5257]

Good

[@EV-olution]

Thank you.

[@napradpoPolsce]

I love your movies

[@EV-olution]

Thank you very much, I really appreciate it 😎

[@Reddylion]

Nice

[@EV-olution]

Thank you 😎

[@rinsed6842]

Who is he talking to😂😂😂😂👨🏾‍🦯👨🏾‍🦯👨🏾‍🦯👨🏾‍🦯👨🏾‍🦯

[@rinsed6842]

Great video btw ,,,,we have fun here

[@ozoneA6]

Ioniq is no where more efficient than the kia niro EV. Test has been done in real world driving and kia EV is way more efficient than the ioniq. Tesla so far is the only car that is more efficient than the kia and thats facts🙄

[@EV-olution]

Efficiency is not range, but the efficient use of power stored in the battery. I am not sure where you got your information, but the Hyundai Ioniq Electric has always been an efficiency king, with the 2021 right behind Tesla. --- Reference 1: insideevs.com/news/534083/most-efficient-bev-us-20210918/ --- Reference 2: ev-database.org/compare/efficiency-electric-vehicle-most-efficient#sort:path~type~order=.efficiency~number~asc|range-slider-range:prev~next=0~1200|range-slider-acceleration:prev~next=2~23|range-slider-topspeed:prev~next=110~450|range-slider-battery:prev~next=10~200|range-slider-towweight:prev~next=0~2500|range-slider-fastcharge:prev~next=0~1500|paging:currentPage=0|paging:number=9 And in 2019, the original Ioniq Electric was number one in efficiency. --- Reference: www.myev.com/research/comparisons/evs-with-the-best-mpge-ratings-for-2019#:~:text=The%20most%20efficient%20EV%20for,someone%20driving%20an%20Ioniq%20Electric.

[@ozoneA6]

@@EV-olution that on pen to paper. In real world driving tesla is king then the kia eniro. Check out car wow.

[@lynnjones5904]

Rubbish