I am learning a new double bass foot technique!

Learning a new double bass foot technique. Enjoy!
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In this video I show you my progress of my new double bass foot technique (ankle motion)
I`m learning to expand my repertoire of drumming techniques!
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[@theseventhammer]

I love that you are showing work on progress. So many drummers are scared to show when they are still struggling. This level of honesty gives everyone hope.

[@johnnyleeedwards8492]

Very awesome. Great technique

[@ConxurOz27]

I am so jellous about you I would really like to play at least half of what you do. You should do tutorials more often about pedal techniques for beginners. Greetings from Colombia

[@lainelorbera1130]

I mean heel toe technique for every bit I do faster assure the double for full leg motion. Heel toe in the long run gets more comfortable for max speed and at the same time is a great warm out for full leg motion.

[@markopolo5511]

Your Technique is faster that's the way I play and I told you that you were better on your foot than I was now you're playing like me but the heel-to-toe is faster you're still awesome dude keep up the good work

[@powgoodkat1]

Great work bro keep the videos coming

[@nickcollins9893]

Good luck with practicing!!!)

[@theepicslayer7sss101]

usually drummers have a point where they switch techniques like full leg motion on slow, ankle on medium, swivel or double strokes and other fast speed techniques... that is usually where some drummers may change the BPM of a song if they can't or change the bass drum's number of hits (like triplets, normal quads, quintuplets...) to keep the same BPM! some times it feels cooler cause it is faster but in reality it is done because the drummer is more comfortable playing faster!

[@Heka41]

I haven't seen a drummer that exceeds your speed or precision Wajna, you're really world class bruh. . .Cheers from New York City :)

[@조성진-g2x]

That progress tho.... this is why I like ur play..

[@illusionsfadeofficial]

Good Job

[@jorgeeduardozamoraacosta8627]

The weird zone between 140 - 160 when if you use ankles, you felt without control, but if you use the hip flexor, you feel like they're on fire all the time. I'm working on it with ankle weights to increase the speed while using only the hip flexors, and while using only the ankles, I try to place the foot back of the footboard, to teach the calf muscles to increase its contraction. Obviously is more easy to say it, than do it, but that's what seem to help me on those mid tempos.

[@almadaestudios]

ah, 140-160 is the weird zone for my ankles as well!!

[@jorgeeduardozamoraacosta8627]

@@almadaestudios I'm still workin' on it, but every day it gets better and better. The funny thing is that on those tempos you really need strenght on the calve muscle (if you use the ankle motion), and also strength on the hip flexor (if you use full leg motion - flat foot). Personally on 140 I prefer use the full leg motion, and on 150 I switch to the ankles. But is just my preference, is not a must do.

[@almadaestudios]

@@jorgeeduardozamoraacosta8627 I hear ya. I just go full leg from zero to 160. Then ankles all the way to my max. My prob with the 140-160 was because ankles play sloppy (for me) at these tempos. Instead of beating on it, I just switched to full leg, was easier to re-learn

[@jorgeeduardozamoraacosta8627]

@@almadaestudios whatever works better for you, is fine.

[@YUNG_SHINOBI_666]

I play this same way. It has a lot of control. #flatfoottechnique

[@deformitygurubashi]

liked faster than your double bass!

[@RazeTheWeak]

Great job Wanja. I remember watching a Derek Roddy video when I was learning this technique (kzbin.info/www/bejne/p4GpdoOVqNmDfas). It was a game changer. I'm sure youve seen it, but figured I'd add it just in case you hadn't. Anyways, awesome job on the progress. Those medium tempos are always harder than going fast.

[@shizuri3056]

Faster than machine gun... 😨

[@ChrisPBacon-wq4pu]

Ankle's are like the wrist. Once loose, they are unstoppable 👍👍👍👍🤘🤘🤘🤘

[@yucatansuckaman5726]

I cant wait for the cover of twilight of the thunder god

[@tillto0236]

same!

[@CameronFleury]

Awesome man! I find myself in the opposite situation. I'm not quite able to do double strokes properly. Thanks for the video!

[@petr.g]

Hold on there man. It took me a month of 1-2 hour practice every day to play 200-210 bpm blast. I wish you best of luck :)!

[@harolmen]

I need your immortal shoes!!!!! JajajajajJaja . regards.

[@MoparStephen]

Wow - I've never seen/heard you struggle with anything! Thanks for posting this, it is very humanizing. I'm sure someday I'll be watching you jam at 400BPM. Keep up the good work.

[@wanjanechtangroeger]

Thanks! 400bpm is a bit much - but who knows? :D

[@someone.2070]

Wanja [Nechtan] Gröger well its possible with some speed... if u know what i mean...

[@TheWitchOvAgnesi]

@@wanjanechtangroeger LOL, let's talk about that in ten years...

[@Emperor-iu6rb]

Excellent Wanja. I´m a big fan of your playing and your drum techniques. I´m learning...!!!

[@wanjanechtangroeger]

Just for the fun of it I started learning a new bass drum technique - ankle motion! Still not good but getting better and better! ► Finally, here comes the Wanja [Nechtan] Gröger - Drum School: www.wanjanechtangroeger.com/bundles/nds My drumming equipment: ► My Zultan Cymbals: ► * 14" Hi-Hat: www.thomann.de/de/zultan_14_hi_hat_cs_series.htm?offid=1&affid=241 ► * 16" Crash: www.thomann.de/de/zultan_16_heritage_crash.htm?offid=1&affid=241 ► * 17" China: www.thomann.de/de/zultan_17_heritage_china.htm?offid=1&affid=241 ► * 18" Crash: www.thomann.de/de/zultan_18_heritage_crash.htm?offid=1&affid=241 ► * 20" Ride : www.thomann.de/de/zultan_20_rock_beat_heavy_ride.htm?offid=1&affid=241 ► *My Drumsticks (Europe): www.thomann.de/de/vic_firth_cmn_american_classic_hickory.htm?offid=1&affid=241 ► *My Drumsticks (US) : www.amazon.com/dp/B00C7J42YC/?tag=hbbe-wg-20 ► *My Double Bass Drum Pedal (Europe): www.thomann.de/de/pearl_p3002d_demon_doppel_pedal.htm?offid=1&affid=241 ► *My Double Bass Drum Pedal (US) : www.amazon.com/dp/B001U7RQBS/?tag=hbbe-wg-20 ► *My Tom and Snare Drum Microphones: www.thomann.de/de/sennheiser_e604_evolution.htm?offid=1&affid=241 ► *My Drum Carpet/Rug: www.thomann.de/de/thomann_drum_rug_oriental_red.htm?offid=1&affid=241 The bass drum is a mix of triggered sample and acoustic sound in this video. ► *Bass Drum Trigger: www.amazon.com/TrigMic-Gen2-Laser-Pick/dp/B06XSGX7YR/?tag=hbbe-wg-20 #nechtan #zultancymbals #zultan #thecymbalbrand #wearecymbals #zultanfamily #metal #extreme #blastbeats #doublebass #anklemotion Bei den mit * gekennzeichneten Links handelt es sich um Affiliate Links. Kommt über einen dieser Links ein Kauf zustande, werde ich mit einer Provision beteiligt. Der Preis bleibt natürlich der gleiche. Für Dich entstehen keine Mehrkosten.

[@coltonkramer2472]

Same technique I use, I kept losing patience trying to learn double strokes and this way just feels comfortable and natural. I use the balls of my feet on the back of the pedal apply slight pressure and let the pedal do a lot of the work. I am still workin on learning your hand technique and it's incredibly frustrating and humbling lol

[@timorus8090]

I like trying out other techniques and approaches and analyzing the mechanics behind them. I have what works for me with my half-numb feet, but often just doing something different can lead to fun things. Neat adventure.

[@niklasp93]

Sehr stark. Klingt sehr relaxed bei dir. Ich arbeite aktuell auch vermehrt an Midtempo doublebass. Als heel toe double stroke Spieler kenne ich deine Problematik denke ich recht genau wenn du sagst, im Low Tempo Bereich fühlt es sich nicht richtig an😅 Weiter so!

[@davormaplenik2776]

Man, I look at your beaters and I must say your strokes are very constant all the way up to 180! I know that takes many hours of practice...

[@FelipeTorrents]

Did you try the swivel technique? it helped me gain more control over 190-210bpm on ankle motion. BTW I still can't get your technique right. Seems to make use of other sets of muscles than ankle motion or something like that.

[@wanjanechtangroeger]

Nah, too complicated to just learn it for fun. Maybe one day when I have too much time or something ;)

[@Ruben_Patricio]

Hey Wanja. Does the power, on the full leg motion at 150bpm, comes from tights only or calves are involved too?

[@wanjanechtangroeger]

@@Ruben_Patricio There is a lot of ankle involved!

[@flybynight9685]

Great video man! Have you seen David Diepold’s technique? It’s sort of a swivel but it seems to work for him though because he’s insanely fast!

[@peterslonsky]

Thank you wanja! Appreciate the technique and explanation!

[@TheFaan83]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6CaaXqbmdRjftE I think i do like you in this video but to make it less hard at faster tempos i apply pressure and then just like controlling the pedal instead of pushing down for each stroke.. I cant do this in 160bpm thou. I mainly use it at 185-230bpm. I have the same problems at speeds around 160 is hard. Wish i could do your special techniqe but cant get the hang of it :D

[@brentsack1318]

I always love what you do you turn my senses on and I find that your beautiful unique. Is everything to me that you show us makes us how to grow more. my hope is ⁴ a hafe it's just that I would love to hear you tap on one of the bowls that sit on the symbol hat or whatever you call i love your symbol I THINK YOUR'E magnificent

[@UlfhedinnNorsk]

It's amazing how you speak English better than population of Detroit, Chicago and Memphis. 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@Pedro_ZKS]

This is the technique I use :)

[@diebolze5101]

Genau auf die Technik sattel ich auch gerade um. Weil bei mir die Heel toe single stroke Technik nach mittlerweile zwei Jahren immer noch nur sehr unzuverlässig läuft... Die kann der linke Fuß komischerweise viel besser als der rechte bei mir... Dafür ist der rechte in ankle movement schon relativ fit, der packt die 220 bereits ganz gut... Der linke zwar auch, aber da kann ich es noch nicht kontrolliert spielen, sprich es ist noch sehr unkontrolliertes "Wadenzittern". Mit der Heel toe Ss. Technik kann ich zwar einzeln effizient spielen (der rechte kommt trotzdem nicht ernsthaft über die 220/230 BPM Marke, der linke komischerweise schon) aber wenn ich beide zusammenbringen will kommich schnell aus Gleichgewicht wegen der full leg Motion... Wie hast du dieses Problem gelöst? Bei dir sehen Heel toe single strokes so spielerisch einfach aus... Grüße aus Köln 🤘

[@Fireoncityy]

"Hello I'm vonaglinga also known as nigga"

[@dyyznataz2847]

I have a similar issue, I'm at about 150 or 160 full leg, but with heel toe doubles I can play at like 230 or more. I need to go back and get more comfortable with ankle motion as well. One thing I did recently that's been helping my playing overall is that I greatly increased my beater angle and loosened the spring quite a bit. It allows me to bury the beater if I want to rather than fighting the spring. I get a larger beater throw and my double strokes are also louder and more controllable. This is how Dave Lombardo and Max Kolesne set their pedals and those guys are masters of ankle technique with lots of power.

[@TheWitchOvAgnesi]

I've been using this technique for awhile now, I just refer to it as (true) heel down (my heel is firmly sitting on the heel plate). But I also practice it at speeds lower than 150 bpm (from 100-150 actually). While I still mainly use full leg motion for those tempos, I find it much easier to execute triplet or quad patterns while playing heel down as a result. If nothing more, just practicing with ankle at those slow speeds will increase dexterity and control (it is way harder than you think). It's also a great way to warm up the feet and getting your mind and muscles focusing on precision and evenness. In the process of learning and experimenting with this technique, I noticed that there are not a lot of drummers out there who tackle the range of 180-200 in songs. They'll either play a slower 6/8 pattern or a faster one. I wonder why that is...? LOL I started on this journey using old, first generation Iron Cobra pedals and it was a struggle. But then months ago I switched to the Demon Drives that you use and suddenly this technique was immensely easier. You're entering a new level and dimension of perfection young grasshopper!!!

[@YUNG_SHINOBI_666]

I play this same way. It has a lot of control. #flatfoottechnique

[@Aaron-jk4vm]

That is really cool im so happy for you keep up the great work

[@petr.g]

I am learning the same technique and i suck.

[@benjaminkottmann7381]

Hey, vielen Dank für deine super Videos! Ich übe seit 3-4 Monaten deine Blast Beat Technik mit den Händen. Es geht von Woche zu Woche besser. Aber mit 35 ist es nicht so einfach eine neue Technik zu lernen. 😁 Nun weiss ich echt nicht mit welcher Fusstechnik ich anfangen soll? Sind doppelschläge nicht besser? (Weniger anstrengend und schneller?) So wie sie Kollias z.B spielt?? Oder sehe ich da etwas falsch? Danke dir vielmals!

[@Mattialoathing]

Ankle motion is very hard to learn

[@jrvital5815]

con el heel toe eres mas rapido y preciso buen video

[@DK-ii5sc]

Awesome as always.

[@alexeyku8926]

you did good!

[@leonardoalbertojimenezpere2828]

Saludos desde México hermano.

[@flooper8441]

I love to see you cover a Nile song sometime, Nechtan. Unless you already have done one and i haven't seen it yet

[@wanjanechtangroeger]

Not yet, but I certainly will someday!

[@ELK1989612]

I'm learning the same thing you're doing, plus the swivel. However, I would like to know exactly *how* you practice double bass speed. I usually put the metronome above my comfort zone and try to nail 4 notes with both feet. Then after I'm confident with that, I add 4 notes plus another to make 8, and so 8 + 8 and 16 + 16, ect. How do you do it? And any methods you have on whipping that douchey left foot into shape would be appricated too.

[@wanjanechtangroeger]

I practise a lot of endurance stuff - I set the metronome to a comfortable tempo and play that for very long and from there on I go faster and faster and try to hold each tempo at least for one minute.

[@ELK1989612]

@@wanjanechtangroeger Alright, I envy you since I haven't reached a point where my technique sits well enough for endurance to make sense. My left foot just recoils in horror whenever I try to do something above 130. Gotta work on that limb. Good luck to you onwards with your ankle work.

[@Cannibalovich]

Wanja, you are the best! Please make video about start of the double bass beat, how to catch the balance point? When i start db beating, my legs are so strained, body is go forward, i can't get it. Thanks!

[@wanjanechtangroeger]

Good point! When I got better with ankle motion I might make a video about how it works and about the practise routines that I used.

[@Cannibalovich]

@@wanjanechtangroeger Thanks a lot! I wait for it!)

[@Cannibalovich]

@@wanjanechtangroeger by the way, i mean balance point of the body, how to control its position that give you independence in hand and foot

[@dolabanerjee4248]

When I play heel down technique ..It hurts in the shin bone muscle how many time you took to fix that

[@wanjanechtangroeger]

As I explained in the end, I am not actually playing heel-down in this video! My heels are still a tiny little bit above the ground. Still my shins hurt a lot when I started with this technique, but once I got used to the movement and didn't tense up too much it was no problem anymore. Just time and practise.

[@dolabanerjee4248]

@@wanjanechtangroeger many thanks ....How long you've been playing that technique

[@wanjanechtangroeger]

@@dolabanerjee4248 I had practised it a little bit I think 1 or 2 years ago. But at the time of filming this video I had been doing it for around two weeks or something.

[@dolabanerjee4248]

@@wanjanechtangroeger 2 weeks for you 2 years for me ....Can you kindly make a video on the proces how many time or how long from start

[@dolabanerjee4248]

@@wanjanechtangroeger and you are the best drummer and you tuber only because you reply ....Thank you man

[@gaspar-animal-ribeiro5414]

Have you considered the Swivel Technique? It works for me, and I suggest everyone to at least give it a try! Cheers from Portugal!!

[@wanjanechtangroeger]

Takes too much effort to learn just for fun I think ;) Maybe one day when I have too much time!

[@gaspar-animal-ribeiro5414]

@@wanjanechtangroeger that would be awesome! Your arsenal would pretty much be complete ahah

[@MrE1981]

Could you try tuning your snare drum, and loosening the snare wires. Instead of learning a new bass technique? How are you still playing a beginner kit!?

[@wanjanechtangroeger]

Well, I am satisfied with my kit so far - but I agree with you, that the snare does not sound very good and getting a new one is pretty high on my to-buy-list. Loosening the snare wires doesn't make the sound any better on my current snare drum - at least not for my ears.

[@Nukappi]

Hit that snare much harder, you’re extremely fast, but you’re a very light hitter, try hitting the a lot harder, trust me it will sound a lot better, there will be more crack, punch and low end

[@Pure_KodiakWILD_Power]

@@wanjanechtangroeger find a good snare head, play around with tunings, perhaps use drum dots or muffle rings, you can get plenty from your current snare.

[@lexiisloved1297]

Nukappi Vetterlain So hitting the snare harder will give it more " crack and punch." You're a goddamn genius. Thank you for informing us of this.

[@bestiaonthedrums]

@@Nukappi learning the rim shot technique would give it a twist. Especially if you don't just blast.

[@gaboogablah]

You're gaining weight, aren't you playing as much as before?

[@apothecurio]

never stop to think he could have been underweight before

[@gaboogablah]

No, unless it's the camera, he looks like he's getting out of shape and possibly pudgy. And the last thing he wants to be is a fat half bald guy with a ponytail.

[@sledgewolf339]

gaboogablah why the fuck does it matter? And I don’t even notice