I Bet on Horse Racing and Won BEFORE the Race Started

[@timporter4008]

good video its fun reading the comments - as coming from a bad gambling background can see way people think on here like I used think why bother trying to just make a few quid on a race - trading is the only way you can make long term profit and is sustainable and repeatable with not too much risk when you work out how many trading opportunities there are you only need to profit a small amount each race

[@CaanBerryProTrader]

Ye, fun is one angle! Frustrating is another... people don't seem to understand that this is low-risk and extremely repeatable, and possible on larger stakes. Especially once you know what you're doing! Sometimes there's no risk in certain trades at all. Mindset is a large part of it and it seems the masses would rather think successful gambling is being lucky on a 20 leg accumulator at horrifically bad bookmaker prices.

[@timporter4008]

@@CaanBerryProTrader yea I would say mindset is hardest and most important part to get right getting there slowly go through good periods and bad periods

[@LeonOjedaV]

I've been betting on British horse racing for 8 years, but there's not much you can do from Spain. We have Bet365, which got much worse by not improving odds, and other Spanish bookmakers with infamous markets. I watch these videos with anger at not being able to have access to an exchange market in horse racing.

[@CaanBerryProTrader]

This horse racing strategy is even more lucrative though, see how it works - kzbin.info/www/bejne/fpjPkJxpa9xsg6M

[@TheMaggsy1]

Hi Caan,if you have a lot of money on the lay side waiting to be matched does that mean that the price is likely to drift? And vice versa?

[@jasonbsharps2328]

So if you would have left the last one you would of been up 800?

[@hholiday]

What was the actual strategy? You just showed what influenced your decision to make the trades, not how anything indicates a price would shorten

[@CaanBerryProTrader]

Was to do with last minute change and traded volume, could have been clearer. See here - kzbin.info/www/bejne/op61noljqJmVfNk

[@ErdölBiramen-p1n]

When you have backed at higher odds and the odds have dropped (shortened) since and you now want to lock in a profit, how do you decide how much to lay? Is there a formular for this (to which one has to strictly adhere to) or is it just a subjective decision, depending on how much of an arbitrage (with zero remaining exposure) and how much of a +EV value bet (with a certain amount of remaining exposure) the two bets are supposed to constitute?

[@GrantStephenson-y7h]

literally just cash out/trade out and betfair/smarkets will lay the right amount, no need to pull out a calculator such as an oddsmonkey calculator, unless you wanted to underlay, overlay etc but for a perfect balance then just hit cashout/trade out, obviously this can be automated if you have trading software, I started last year been very successfully, it's doable, I just manually trade though (swing trading)

[@artiegillard7226]

My brother was riding king of the west that you were looking at on your trading software.

[@del9968]

I like your other brother theo, he's a good jockey and given me a few wins including yesterday on innisfree lad, so wish him good luck for me please, I believe he will be one of the top jockeys, no doubt.

[@ascott6328]

well get your brother to whip round at the start then we can start to make some real money....

[@davestewartDWCC]

New style of trading Caan?..you used to be the top scalper in britain 👍

[@CaanBerryProTrader]

Haha! Just tried to make the video a bit more digestable for newcomers. When I crank out the software and get busy so many say they can't understand a bean and that they'd like to see via the website. Hope you're well!

[@davestewartDWCC]

@@CaanBerryProTrader I'm fine mate glad you're doing well 👍

[@kriss1616]

You haven't discovered anything new here it's B2L, and it's not as easy as you show here. Especially if you want to close a position at a loss and you can't close it. Are you still making money on trading BF or just YT ?

[@CaanBerryProTrader]

They're pre race trades (website updates fairly slow). Nothing new agreed, been doing it so long now, it's a lot easier when you exactly why but totally get it's not that easy to get good at. Pre race liquidity is easy to close at? Yes of course, why would I stop? That would be daft.

[@niallg3551]

Hi Caan. What % of these trades would you say are profitable? For those that swing against, do you always trade out pre-off or would you risk trying to get a shorter price in-play?

[@CaanBerryProTrader]

Yes you need to maintain the advantage you have - going inplay isn't part of it. % wise it's 90%+ markets are winners for me although there are multiple trades in a market. This video was just a super simple example with one clean entry and exit so all can understand. See the video in the description if you want to see a slightly more complex version, which is a lot closer to what it really means to trade a race professionally.

[@abdessamadhamidi6750]

Hi caan I have been following for sometime and you never mentioned the name of software you’re using. Can you please provide the name of the software? Thanks

[@CaanBerryProTrader]

Thanks, appreciate it. The software in this video is called Geeks Toy for Betfair.

[@topsalah1819]

He has mentioned it loads of times in the comments section before.

[@sammehigan11]

You didn't actually explain what information you're using to predict shorteners, just that you're looking at charts and money hitting the exchange. What factors are you saying are predictive of price movement

[@HLTHENEXTENGLANDGOALKEEPER]

But ur still taking a risk by Choosing the correct horse to make a market move bcoz I might see a horse that’s gone from 10-1 to 5-1 and when I bk it at 5-1 it might go bk out or might go 4-1 etc now getting that same method b4 any horse have been backed or still early in betting uve still got 2 chose the correct 1 this isn’t 100% a way to win is it bcoz u if it goes the other way the winning from a £200 stake is not A lot but the other way can go the same also surly if u did this for a few weeks constantly and won they would lock ur account off for winning wouldn’t they and the profit isn’t going 2 be that much and most people wouldn’t risk £200 for a 10er the odds of that are 1-20 which aren’t that good are they really

[@cameupstarvin7351]

Why is it you give away all this priceless information away for free?

[@CaanBerryProTrader]

To be honest, there is a bit more that is the really pricesless stuff but that's not here on KZbin. Other than that, its cool to share right? :)

[@cameupstarvin7351]

@@CaanBerryProTrader Interesting. Yes, sharing is very cool. However how might one obtain the 'priceless stuff' then?

[@davestewartDWCC]

@@cameupstarvin7351 buy Caans video pack..that explains everything and is well worth the money 👍

[@richieharkness5535]

​@@cameupstarvin7351 Yeah his video packs are great and they are well worth the money

[@saadkhan-xi5qg]

Bro I bet on a horse race but not getting my winning amount back

[@yorkiesteve9453]

I'm pretty sure that anyone who bets on line, already knows about the 'cash out' option, and to make it worthwhile, you'd have to bet heavy every time to gain some sort of decent profit, you'd be better of just backing all the 2nd favs at a meeting and doubling up each time a bet went down, until you had a winner.

[@CaanBerryProTrader]

Interesting comment, Steve. It's not simply cash out, its trading with a reason. I don't think everyone knows because its reported that only 2% of exchange users pay the premium charge. You qualified for it? Your martingale strategy doesn't work, its a well documented route to the poor house. Appreciate the feedback thanks!

[@adrianmanoli1888]

So,what is the method?😅😅You talked 8 min Without saying nothing.

[@CaanBerryProTrader]

Following the money in the market and change, see this video for more detail - kzbin.info/www/bejne/fpjPkJxpa9xsg6M

[@topsalah1819]

Caan strange video this one.

[@CaanBerryProTrader]

Why's that? It's just structured so all can understand

[@shaunslirobberF6944]

all this gambling aware rubbish going about just need get wiser watch your videos and everyone should be happy lol

[@CaanBerryProTrader]

Ye all the people behind the campaign's are making lots of money tho. Lobbying to make themselves rich.

[@shaunslirobberF6944]

oh for sure but still notice the pawnbrokers etc right next door all highstreet bookmakers lol theres the problem

[@DanceySteveYNWA]

Literally all your 'strategies' entails you playing the Betfair Exchange off against the bookmakers. 😂

[@CaanBerryProTrader]

Except this video doesn't even have a bookmaker in it 😂. Although using the exchange against the bookies is by far the simplest way to do things, no prizes for going the long way around!

[@Richard-mc7mb]

There's no 7.1 price

[@CaanBerryProTrader]

Nope, it's to show that if the price were to extend to that it would be a negative trade! ...theoretical.

[@Paul_314]

new mic? sounds awful sorry but great vid

[@topsalah1819]

Yes it's very strange now sounds different

[@CaanBerryProTrader]

Change back?

[@Paul_314]

Yes other mic was much better

[@savage12136]

What's the point of all this just to win less than £20.

[@CaanBerryProTrader]

It's repeatable race after race, it's taking a punt like normal betting and adds up when you realise there are 20-70 races a day. Can make a lot more than £20 too - it's just a clear example with 1 entry and exit.

[@timporter4008]

because slow and steady is way to become profitable with trading no get rich quick scheme like others will wish you to believe Caan knows lots of hard work and repeating day after day workout £20 pound a day translates to £140 quid a week when you know what you are doing not an exact science working out daily profit but its long term steady gains rather than betting where you lose - matched betting you cant do forever and value betting same will eventually get accounts closed

[@adrianmanoli1888]

How You want to win?200?2000?

[@marklennon4291]

This is just an advert for his own software. Shameful #Ad

[@CaanBerryProTrader]

Mark I don't have any software? I think you're getting me confused with someone else.

[@marklennon4291]

@@CaanBerryProTrader Geeks toy. You might not be a named owner, but 100% your getting kickbacks from it. Why must you always lie.

[@CaanBerryProTrader]

Mark, I 100% am not. I just like the software and it's the one I've used since I first found Betfair trading. If you're looking for liars and snides you probably want to look at that other guy... or maybe he sent you here, it's boing. What a weirdo.