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[@twomakerscrew]

As someone who has wanted one of these since all the influencers started getting them, Thank you. Ill pass and stick to the wall mounted with a 2 stage. Those bins look like a nightmare to deal with. We would fill it every couple days.

[@mikeh4924]

No kidding! Dust Deputy and a 44 gal Rubbermaid and I'm good to go!

[@douglassiemens4245]

Thanks for being a "normal" woodworker when it comes to having a shop mess. This was a great diagnosis and fix video.

[@sgsax]

Thank you for showing a tool being used like a normal person would. We're not our here babying our tools, we're using them. A little preventative maintenance never hurt anybody, but who among us hasn't forgotten to clean out the filters every now and then? More honest tool reviews please! Thanks for sharing!

[@andrewwetzel6036]

If you look at the owner's manual (I know, sacrilege,) the two white covers on the bottom of the fine filter columns are clean-out ports for the filters. Looks like you can roll the whole assembly to an open place, then follow the instructions. Which also say clean them once a week. Hmmm...

[@qwasdninja]

Absolutely nobody cleans these once a week unless it literally stops working.

[@JHRefinedCustomFurniture]

@@qwasdninja I empty and clean mine every week. I take care of my belongings and don't neglect things like this fool

[@iothomas]

I would recommend first unplugging a machine before you put your hands inside it

[@Evilwetness]

Love all the clapping and the WOO!!! was icing on the cake. A clean machine is a happy machine 😊

[@Cianan-vw1lb]

That's nuts. First guy I worked for: "If you're having to work that hard, you're doing something wrong." 😆 Thanks for giving us a tour of the guts of the thing!

[@SomeGuyWhoClimbs]

Did it get clogged up from infrequent emptying of the bin?

[@aberba]

The air filter will get clogged up the more you use and from how it look, it a pain to get it out hence the infrequent cleaning

[@SomeGuyWhoClimbs]

@@aberba The airfilters are actually designed to collect the dust. There are ports at the bottom of the unit that you apparently unplug and use the dust collector itself to pull vacuum on so that it gets redeposited into the bin. That obviously won't work though if the unit is just too clogged to run. I'm guessing Woby just didn't empty it frequently enough which led to this cluster, though would be good to know for sure. Was thinking of picking one of this up at some point...

[@lauig]

Impressive it lasted this long without a cleanup, thanks for pushing it this far and showing us that worst case thorough deep clean scenario. Plus, I take it compared to most regular woodworker, your work has more glue & resin & maybe even some rubber particles in the dust due to those skateboards which could all contribute to stickier clumps. I guess one would just have to add a little 10 to 20 min attention to that machine in their workflow every week or so to be pretty fine with it for a full year.

[@HarveyIndustriesIntl]

10:46

[@corneredraccoon]

is this just rage bait? this is about to have so much engagement😂

[@Stratomacaster]

Next time... unplug it. Never put your hands where really fast spinny things live. Things like that tend to eat fingers when you accidentally reach up to support yourself and accidentally hit the ON button.

[@efenili]

Im assuming the 2 caps at the bottom of the filters are meant to be opened so when you "clean" those filters you can suck out whatever falls down? SO that in theory you wouldn't have to disassemble the entire thing like you did?

[@HarveyIndustriesIntl]

Yes with routine maintenance you spin the red knobs to collect the fines at the bottom two ports.

[@bobdriggers6111]

It's not the machine......it's the operator!

[@mark_verbos]

it's the WOPR!

[@pepper7144]

you sir are correct! this is one of the best machines for it's size( 6 inch system)

[@jeremyjones8484]

I had this same collector. At the beginning it was great. But once I attached a larger planer it became a nightmare. The small bin would fill before the larger bin where the sensor is and clog quickly. When reaching out to Harvey to see if there were any adjustments that could be made their customer service was poor and questions were never answered. Best day was when I got rid of it and went back to a cyclone.

[@Greg8872]

Ok, how many other OCD people out there were driven nuts by that left filter being put back on off by one screw hole and not pointing straight out the side...

[@WobyDesign]

I fixed it off camera but im gladd i pissed you off.

[@Greg8872]

@WobyDesign lol

[@jacobdean1454]

😂

[@Greg8872]

@@SamWanamaker1 i didnt use the term flippantly. I never even heard of the term flippantly until I read your comment.

[@kingdomtouchesbyajayrichrn6077]

⁠​⁠@@SamWanamaker1there are many people with OCD that have coping mechanisms so they don’t get the formal diagnosis. Those that don’t have coping mechanisms or have failing coping mechanisms get the formal diagnosis. I agree with you that it is used “flippantly” but where we part ways is that you can’t make that assessment from behind a screen.

[@chrischatfield2883]

No experience with the Harvey specifically, but with all cyclone separators if the bin fills up to the bottom of the cyclone it kinda stops working and dust starts bypassing the cyclone stages and goes straight into the filters. I've seen it happen on my huge Oneida. Wonder if that happened here. There should really not be that much dust packed in the cyclones and filters! As long as I don't let the bin completely fill up into the cyclone I've run for years without having to do anything aside from bang a thin film of fine dust off the inside of the filter every once in a while. Also any sort of air leak IME causes the cyclones to completely stop cycloning. Wonder if something is leaking in the airstream.

[@russellsmith8609]

Watching you standing in all that dust made my nose feel stuffy.

[@AnComChua-fj3mc]

Wooooow

[@rgh7700]

I'm in love with Harvey

[@BadPandaWoodworks]

At least Ben was honest. A lot of others would have blamed the machine for their mistakes. Ben was probably slackin on emptying the bins and let it get a little outta hand. It happens. Are there other machines out there that are easier to clean? Sure... But it's also easy to just empty the bins... And for the dude that said, "Would you treat it better if you paid $3k for it?!" No. Probably not. Because he didn't abuse it. (Except when he banged the filter on the ground.) He just forgot to empty the bins.

[@jeremyspecce]

I broke it this video title😂

[@pepper7144]

This is TOTAL ABUSE OF A GREAT SYSTEM! Do not judge this machine by his obvious abuse. On a positive note it did survive the obvious abuse after cleaning.

[@craigsnowden]

Machine was plugged in while your arm was inside?! Eeep.. 😮

[@jimcrawford9767]

👍

[@bradleytuckwell4881]

Great machine it’s downfall the bins are to small

[@scottbeaman6355]

I'm sure you could have emptied the bins and put them back turn on and would have pushed the excess threw

[@Dragonited]

Why is a machine this expensive not equipped with a dust filter clogging sensor? It should have been warning him it was starting to get clogged way before they got filled up. Harvey should also put the intake port on the short side, backside or the top and not the front. It's so stupid to have it go out at the front.

[@HarveyIndustriesIntl]

The machine has a full bin sensor. Ben's issue here stemmed from lack of routine maintenance of the fine filters. Gotta spin those red knobs!

[@theeggman1341]

Some people don’t deserve to have nice things😊

[@luapkirner5331]

I let my filters clog once…won’t let that happen again…i spin the spinners at the end of everyday.

[@Tinkery]

Well… I definitely had this on my “someday if I win the lottery” list but after watching this I can definitely scratch it off that list. Too easy for things to go wrong, and WAY too hard to clean & service the machine when they do. Thanks for saving me a bunch of the Monopoly money that use to keep track of my dream equipment list in my head! 😂😮😅

[@Toograced]

I 100% agree with you.

[@pepper7144]

This guy TOTALLY ABUSED a great dust collector!!!!! It has a warning light to tell you when to empty the bags. There are several videos explaining how to clean the filters (Bents Woodworking and Next Level Carpenter) both show how to clean the filters so this doesn't happen. Using a single 4 inch collection hose on a 6 inch system is somewhat overkill for this unit. This unit is perfect for a shop that may need 2 ea 4 inch machines at the same time. DO NOT judge this unit by the abuse this guy did to a fine machine

[@Toograced]

@pepper7144 Thank you for that thoughtful breakdown. I appreciate your point. He definitely made this machine look bad. But I understand what you are saying.

[@Tinkery]

@@pepper7144 I hear you. I’ve seen the videos from Bents and Next Level and I agree that this is probably a great dust collector, just not for me. No matter how careful you are, filters are a wear item that eventually will need to be replaced. The way this machine is designed, that is a pain to do. Also, at some point, mistakes will usually happen as well. I have an older Delta dust collector with a cyclone separator and double canister filters from Wynn Environmental. I have accidentally allowed my collector to overfill when I forgot to check the bin. It was messy to clean, but everything was at least easy to access when cleaning it out. I’ve since added the dust sentry to the bin and have been better about checking the bin regularly…but I am human and assume that the first time won’t be the last time it ever happens. Watching this video made me realize that I don’t think the trade off here is worth it for me. As cool as this dust collector is, I don’t think I’m willing to give up easy access to wear items and ability to repair easily in exchange for a smaller footprint. At the price point of this machine, I don’t think the value is there for me. Still very cool, but not for me.

[@Selbitschka]

That is one abused machine! :)

[@sfallier]

Wow, that's an awful lot of work to get at the filters.

[@WobyDesign]

honestly this took like 30 mins, it's not that bad.

[@Nekon14]

From start to end how long did it take you to do this? If it’s once every six months and not terrible time wise it’s not to terrible.

[@ianmurray3820]

Looks like those things are designed for small chips only.! And should have those round caps below the filter taken off regularly and the filters scraped.!!! I’m surprised you didn’t burn the thing out.! Does it even have a light to tell you there’s no air flow??? Either way not designed for easy access.!! Panels should all be tool free spring clips and rubber seals, ..maybe if you’d paid for it you would take better care of it…☝️☝️☝️

[@WobyDesign]

Wahhhhh wahhh wahhhhhhhh that’s all I heard from you, Ian. Why do you have double the amount of vowels in your first name? That’s the question you should’ve been trying to solve instead of bitching about my dust collection.

[@n2darkness]

Im curious if you would be more diligent about maintaining your tools if you shelled out $3k for it? Dont care if you break it when they send you one for free.

[@NonstopLA213]

Aeeeyyy

[@TABLESAWTIM]

Imagine using a vacuum for a vacuum. That, is the worst design since the start of the 1800s industrial age. I appreciate the filtration efficiency & that's where it stops. We all can see the ONLY thing the designer was trying to do, was filtration alone with no thought of maintenence. Enjoy

[@rcg3496]

If I had to go through all of that I’d never buy one!!!

[@WobyDesign]

with that attitude, you're not buying anything.

[@drummaking3]

I get why KZbinrs do it, but I'm tired of click bait titles...

[@geekazoid]

You broke the title, too.

[@marinusvanderlubbe7673]

I really like my taiwan made 3 horse power much better thanks

[@robh.8214]

Not an error on your part.... an inherently flawed design from a maintenance perspective. There should be some type of separator for bigger stuff before it hits their "cleaning cyclones". If you have a cranky back, this is not the dust collector for you....

[@WobyDesign]

izzy swan did a good video on making a giant hoist for people with cranky backs so that might help.

[@Toograced]

​@@WobyDesign Spend a ton of money on a machine that requires you to modify its design. That's a wise call.🎉

[@Nekon14]

Omg if I was them I would pay you to remove this video, supply you a machine that has a better design, and pay you again to make a video. I would never buy this thing…

[@camhutch8149]

The machine is fine, its operator error and not cleaned or emptied enough.

[@Toograced]

It looks like its not only really messy to clean out, but also takes up too much floor real estate. Plus its a very pricy machine. Maybe im mistaken. Ill stick to Oneida.

[@salvatorefanale]

As good as harvey is... not a good advertizement for their dust processor. Looks like a royal PITA, and for what advantage over the much simple two stage cyclones? But good on Ben for always telling it like it is. Honest reviews by Woby all day, every day.

[@WobyDesign]

DUDE IM THE MOST HONEST DUDE ON KZbin PEOPLE DONT EVEN KNOW

[@stupidocanerosa]

Ok, so. This is what happens when you do not clean the filters.

[@jimrosson6702]

Great video thanks for sharing

[@stevegaspa]

maintain uour equipment woby. thats probably a $5000 uve got for free. you are wasting the machine and your lungs bro.

[@williamdawson3353]

Good solid video and honest.

[@JedediahSmith342]

Looks like you bought the wrong machine … unplug that shit … yer hands!!!!!

[@joelarson3528]

Dude wtf are you doing 🤦🏼‍♂️ do not do what he did

[@nothereorthereoranywhere]

This video totally SUCKS! HA HA HA

[@adamkellett5252]

That's a horribly design machine for maintenance!

[@aberba]

Poor design for something that needs to be taken apart that often. Too many screws, too many steps.

[@MaxPower_Designs]

Who ever designed this machine obviously never used it! Complete garbage job of engineering! Don’t make something that requires frequent maintenance inaccessible! Serviceability is key in a good product!

[@jaywuchner9342]

This guy is a disaster.

[@Craftlngo]

Please, don't stick your hands in a device with moving parts without shutting off the power.

[@urdifferent]

This.

[@WobyDesign]

yeah thanks mom. also, please dont just leave comments thinking that's helping, but do go buy stuff on my website.

[@Craftlngo]

@@WobyDesign I think about it, son. 😁

[@Dragonited]

Depends on where the moving parts are. He did not put his hands anywhere that there were moving parts. There's a grill at the intake and the grey tupes are static.

[@fritzkocher]

sorry but that duster is a cmplete JOKE! why the hell should anyone have to take out 50 bolts to un-clog the machine?????? stupid AF design! get a different machine!!!!!!!!!

[@iRReligious]

o don't know why would u want a 3000$ dust collector. 🤷‍♂️😂 there is always a far cheaper alternative! 300$ can get u perfect duct collector! which does its job. collects dust! 💪👍

[@WobyDesign]

why buy a car when you can just buy a bike right? so much cheaper.