I Brought Promotion/Relegation to College Football

[@LJWS8]

A way to have fixed this would have been to to do all of the conferences connected like the English soccer pyramid. Instead of just having the teams swap back and forth, let teams fall down multiple leagues and make em crawl back up. Have the SEC be the “premier league”, Big10 be the “Championship league”, ACC be “league one”, Big12 be “league two” and so on and so forth. It’ll make it a lot harder for teams to just keep bouncing back and forth and playing the same people.

[@aigbokhaidavid-paul392]

This is the exact same thing i came here to type lol. This would've veen a whole lot more harder and more chaotic.

[@LJWS8]

@ I’m glad I’m not the only one 😂

[@ProjectEditzzz]

that would be a really good idea, i don’t watch soccer but now that i think of it that would be really fun to watch but more years and faster simming would give it more time to develop

[@LJWS8]

@@ProjectEditzzz yea you’d need like 25 years to really see some crazy changes, and a thing with the leagues below the highest one, they do a playoff promotion. So only the team that wins the league gets an automatic promotion, 2nd-6th have to play in a promotion and the two finalists get a promotion. So three go up and down but you can barely make it into the playoffs but win and get a promotion still

[@jacobdelange2002]

I would love to see this as well, but that seems like a lot of work! 😅

[@AndrewAndKeven]

Please Bordeaux. I am asking from the bottom of my heart as a fan of this wretched team. Please rebuild Umass 😢. We have not won a championship since we were in the fcs in 1998. We have never had a positive or even season since joining the fbs in 2012. Please rebuild my team to its former fcs glory.!!!!!!!!!

[@AndrewAndKeven]

@ when!!!!!

[@Gmanski3]

Ayeee I’m from Fitchburg bro 🤣 Umass needs a rebuild asap if he doesn’t do it I will

[@AndrewAndKeven]

@ please I beg you!!!! also nice to talk to a fellow person from Massachusetts

[@Gmanski3]

@@AndrewAndKeven Yessirski man us massholes gotta stick together 💯

[@AndrewAndKeven]

@ hell yes brother!!!

[@CatNip555]

22:11 damn Toledo coach from the year before took over Florida and he went 4-8 and got them relegated while Toledo went 9-3 gotta love it

[@Gmanski3]

I just need Bordeaux to acknowledge me as a top 10 content creator in college football and my life will be complete

[@lovesgnot2766]

Tbh I watch you too, I alternate between the 2. I’m about to go to your channel now 😂 top 10 in my book. Willie weathers ep is top tier

[@andrewwarnke1288]

Tan man fighting for top 3 too.

[@DC_RESELL]

I’m gonna have to start watching you. For me, Bordeaux is my favorite, and then Tanman, and then Teetop.

[@Trenchwar731]

Tanman, Bordeaux, and you my guy. Top 3 dudes in the CF25 landscape

[@Gmanski3]

@@lovesgnot2766 you’re a real one my guy 💯

[@CalebClark-v6g]

Another video idea would be not only to do promotion/relegation, but also to expand that to a full CFB relegation with every conference included and connected, with top teams SEC, followed by Big 10 being second tier, ACC 3rd tier, and so on down the list.

[@dankcoyote]

Bordeaux, please consider this: Divide college football into 4 divisions of 64 teams. The bottom 4 and top 4 promote and relegate each season. Each division is divided into 4 conferences of 16 teams. The first 8 games are played within your conference. A bracket of all 64 teams is created. The 4 quadrants of the bracket are seeded from each conference. Top seed has home field. The final 4 are the conference champions played at neutral sites. This format gives every team a chance. It rewards record with top seed/home field, and produces conference champions in the tourney.

[@TheDieseI]

​@@dankcoyote1, theres alot of extra work that goes into creating a true Pro/Rel system in game and youre limited by how you can actually edit things like neutral site games 2, this more accurately portays real life soccer leagues. Dont think of it as 1league. Think more like - The NCAA is UEFA, and each 2 blocks of Confrences would represent a different country

[@dankcoyote]

I’m saying for real life.

[@geo-gaming_8833]

@@TheDieseIthats actually a smart way of thinking about it. The playoffs could be like Champions League🤣

[@dankcoyote]

@@TheDieseI I'm saying for real life. There is a way to rid ourselves of the human intervention, the logo bias, and have a truly amazing league. The system we have is all jacked up and I don't understand the point of having 128 teams in a single division when statistically, historically the bottom half of the FBS doesn't even have a .500 record to play in a bowl game. Those teams aren't doing themselves or the league any good. The bottom half of the FBS should be in the "Second Division" with the final four of that divisions playoffs eligible for promotion to the First Division the following year. This means that in theory, even a Freshman on the 256th team in the country, bottom of the Fouth Division... could conceivably promote themselves to the First Division by their senior year and win the Division I National Championship. This is better for the team, players, fans, school, recruiting, etc. You could totally sell recruits on "Well, you could go to Colorado, sit on the bench for 3 years, maybe play a little your senior year and win nothing. Or you come to our school in Division II, start as a freshman, win games and help us win the Division II championship and promote to Division I. I haven't fully fleshed out this idea and I'm sure there's smarter ways to do it. One thing I can't get past is balancing enough games for the losers of the first playoff round and playing too many games for the national champion. If there was a consolation bracket you could guarantee 10 games for every team. Other than the seeding process the part that would have folks the most upset would be the algorithm deciding who the bottom 4 teams are for relegation. We like drama, we like emotion, but letting a group of people decide the fate of the playoffs seems like a really dumb way to do it.

[@anonymousguyperson]

16:54 that pick at the goal line might be the worst read by a qb ive ever seen

[@DasBoiMikeyPP]

His rb was wide open. What was he thinking 😒

[@BishopHunter-os8om]

@@DasBoiMikeyPP that’s what I’m saying

[@kevinkenyon3431]

I was just about to comment this like the rb was open

[@x-90]

14:39 Clemson using the transfer portal! lol

[@Woopdawg_real]

That just proves that this game is unrealistic because we would never use it

[@nittyclips]

Had to find the first comment as soon as I heard it, hilarious

[@JaxonVaughn2008]

@@Woopdawg_realyou’re not gonna believe this

[@weldonstancil4726]

This is the definition of “if he wanted to, he would” Homie just keeps bringin’ heat

[@boyxgamer]

Hello Mr Bordeaux! Great vid as always. I have also run promo/relegations in a dynasty and I found that things were much more fun if I gave teams a one year "grace period". Basically, a team cannot be promoted the same year it was relegated and vice versa. Makes the stakes a little higher for a team who may have just had one bad/good year, and gives them a chance to get and keep a recruiting class in the conference they recruited it in for one season. Just food for thought should you ever do something like this again.

[@MichaelS-kg9ci]

I’ve been doing this in my most recent dynasty I started with my hometown college, except I’ve brought divisions back and it’s the loser-winner of each division. I’ve also gotten rid of all independent teams. The teams that get promoted are the teams who make the conference championship and the teams that get relegated are the bottom team of each division. I’m also keeping track of promotion-relegation and national champions, but cause of this video I’ll keep track of Heisman winners. A rule I implemented is if you win the Natty, you get a 3-year immunity, and that if a Group of 5 team wins the Natty, they have lifetime immunity in the conference they go up to.

[@jackherter4841]

This concept is absolutely amazing we need this to be a series with throwback teams and all time teams oh the limits are endless

[@mindGAAP]

Crazy to see the change in enthusiasm in your videos man. If you been go back 2 or 3 months you sound so much more monotone. Not sure what caused the adjustment but you’re killing it.

[@mindGAAP]

FYI not flaming. Been watching for about a year now. Just really enjoying your content lately.

[@TheSloppyjoejr]

I completely agree. Not saying I didn’t enjoy his videos before, but recently he has felt way more passionate and interesting to watch. I wonder if it has to do with the new college football game finally releasing

[@KBCards4]

Please make another just like this but like 20-30 years I think we were on the brink of full blown chaos

[@x-90]

Yesss I’ve been waiting for someone to do this Although Not The Expert version of having bowl games deciding relegation/promotion is a cooler idea

[@lukebishop8858]

bordeaux’s is more like the premier league (English League) while not the expert is like the Bundesliga (German League) In the Bundesliga the 3rd worst team in the division plays the best team in the division below to decide relegation/promotion

[@Bravesfan12345]

Not possible to do in this new game

[@NSLUploader]

​@@lukebishop8858 The J1 League does that too.

[@resident.blondie]

I love how Ball State was just thriving in the Big 10 for so much of the video and not moving

[@danielrobinson9802]

16:57 bro the RB was wide open 🤣

[@austinshepherd3453]

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[@TSSJukingMonkey]

Was in the middle of editing but had to watch some bordiddy

[@Gmanski3]

@@TSSJukingMonkey bordiddy is insane

[@BigBlockEpicSong]

He not a predator 💀💀💀💀💀💀 how downbad are u

[@Skillz_251]

This is the 1st video ive seen Bordeaux do where Alabama was a non factor the entire 15 years.

[@daRealB-Rex]

28:19 Another example of how you know this is a video game: we’d never even get our paws close to a natty 😭🙏🏻

[@johnnymo350]

It’s official. End of game defensive playcall logic is incredibly broken. This seems so easy to fix.

[@CarolTurner-e1o]

I can binge these videos for hours!

[@connorboy6925]

Fr me too

[@IThinkJoshAllenIsHot]

I aint know bordeau was like that

[@TSSJukingMonkey]

@@IThinkJoshAllenIsHoti do as well

[@kristenberkimer6681]

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[@BigSimp]

real

[@WhosmanzYT]

Im not going to lie! I love this idea in general!

[@whipskii]

bordeaux, i have an idea, it still includes promotion and relegations, but all the conference are connected, so the top conference is the one who will help most with recruits as for the last conference being the absolute worst, start off with the best rated teams at the top and the worst at the bottom, so like soccer theirs multiple divisions like how a bad school if do good can climb the conferences and make it to the top, sounds pretty epic to me

[@PaulReedsigmamanz]

College football KZbinrs should make one league they are all in together

[@tylerzone1076]

Fr then we can see who the best college football youtuber is

[@gucciflockajuice]

I'm in year 20ish in a dynasty where I do this based on stars. 3 stars and up go to power 5 and you end up independent if you are less than 2 stars. Sometimes when independent seems to get too full or the G5 is too light, I change the criteria to lowest caliber which could mean 1.5 star schools in a G5. It's fun and cool to see some schools rise from the ashes like north Texas runs the b12 right now

[@floriant4336]

in German Soccer, only the bottom 2 teams go directly down, getting swapped with the top two in div2. The div2 3rd place will play the third last team of div1 in a relegation playoff for the last spot in the top flight. I think that system could be very interesting in a format like this as it creates crucial games to watch.

[@TheSloppyjoejr]

You can’t do that in dynasty though

[@vortexathletic]

What we need is a 3 or 4 tier system that includes FCS teams 😅🙌🏻

[@iamben42]

38:03 Syracuse actually doing something!

[@iamben42]

38:15 Nevermind😢

[@senamortotsi573]

i like how realistic this concept is because if big teams in the premier league happen to be relegated the top players have a contract clause that would force the club to release them so it’s cool seeing top recruits leaving schools once they get relegated well done again bordeaux

[@DaRazorback]

Oh and I just thought of this other way you could do it is you could go with a promotion and relegation where for example the SEC is the premier League and then the big 10 is the next league down and just work your way down all the way down to the lowest rated conference being the bottom league and then still do three promotions in three demotions every year, so for example the bottom three teams of the SEC would be demoted down to the Big 10 and then if the next year those teams were in the bottom three of the big 10 they beat demoted down to say the ACC and see how it develops from there what do you think Bordeaux?

[@quintonious12]

Hopefully this concept continues for future videos. Love this

[@johnnymo350]

I actually only use a relegation/promotion format in any dynasty setup. Except I do it with regional realignment, and only promoting once they hit at least 3.5 prestige level as a program. Same rules for relegating, only when they go below 3 star.

[@MrGrombie]

This would be completely cool af to see! Holy...... Never seen relegation work like this. Especially if you combine all the leagues..... yes.....

[@dylanculpen650]

Bordeaux it makes me happy to see you make this video, I haven’t watched it yet but this is how I do my Dynasty as of late and it makes it fun. I have an entire breakdown, including a map of all of the FBS schools, to have every territory and conference aligned accordingly.

[@TateNutter-u2c]

You should do a dynasty and create the most stacked conference ever and rebuild a team in the top 25 and move as many ranked teams to one conference as possible every year and do the same challenges that you always do

[@SusieGrace-tn2ve]

The edits are on point, loved it!

[@Ja1Yungen]

i literally just set this up on my game the only difference is each conference is regional teams like texas and oklahoma back in the big 12 its pretty fun it seems to balance the game more being able to just pick up and start with any teams because most of change conferences and be sent down or up gives me a lil extra thing to play for if i cant make the playoffs and win a natty good vid bro

[@DJ_Cub]

49:36 Sam Houston is not really a “Houston” school it’s in Huntsville which is like an hour and some change away. Close though

[@mj7ven]

Video idea : a dad recently hired as head coach from division 2 school brings his 2 way superstar son along with him in hopes to lead their new team to the championship then moving on to the NFL

[@sethturnage3759]

I will never stop needing a rebuild of my beloved OKState Cowboys

[@jimmy_styx7463]

Nice work Bordeaux!!! I've actually been doing this in CFB revamped, so thrilling to watch it play out

[@Jaimezscott]

I absolutely LOVE this idea. It would also be cool to try an 8 tier system instead of a 2. Good job.

[@hannahfair6955]

purdue went from the first season as 1 win or smth then to the second season with only 1 loss you gota love that effort

[@elibrooks1662]

42:34 oh his scholarship would simply have to be pulled

[@billyboy5903]

Fantastic video. Definitely recommend doing a full 30 year dynasty. Also should do one with the old conferences and not the new ones.

[@Travistty]

I rebalanced the entire FBS as regionally based as possible with 10 teams per P5 conference and the 2 worst teams from each P5/G5 pairing were placed as independents. The independents then had to earn their way into a G5 and then P5. Charlotte was winning the ACC from and independent after 3 seasons. Also, I believe Boise was never recognized because there weren't enough teams in the conferences.

[@elibrooks1662]

I am soooo happy you made this video. Love this concept more than any thing else on your channel. Would love if you did more of these

[@legitheatwrestlingshow1789]

MORE RELEGATION VIDS PLEASE AND THANK YOU!

[@kiroolioneaver8532]

I do this in my College Football game (with the bottom teams in the Power Five conferences (ACC, SEC, B1G, Big 12, Pac-12) feed into the Group of Five (AAC, Sun Belt, MAC, C-USA, MWC) who sends it champion up with all the conferences geographically aligned) but in reality the fairest way would probably be best/worst record over four years

[@GradyWaxkrell]

Can you please rebuild Uconn Seeing them lose in the semifinals was so awesome wish this was real life.

[@bretrobbins9340]

really enjoyed this - and a huge pop for having my alma mater Ball State in the thumbnail

[@Ejoshg123]

Hell yeah ball state in the thumbnail🗣️🔥

[@brianingram1832]

The white corner got me on the floor 😂😂

[@blaketaylor7317]

Sec let me down big time 😂 this video was awesome though we definitely need to make a series out of this

[@benbaydock4691]

I’ve been doing this in my dynasty, but with last year’s conferences and only one team up and down. 10 years in and Mississippi St and Vanderbilt are stuck in the Sun Belt. Kansas has been in the C-USA for 9 years. Half the ACC and American have switched. But the National Championship is still always won by the usual teams.

[@denningmary9017]

Doesn’t anybody know not the expert already did this

[@lennoxkohorst-gy8mx]

Day 5 of asking for a Florida rebuild.

[@kylebennett83]

Never did I think I’d see Everton on a college football video 😂

[@LlamaVomit]

I’ve done a 30 year pro/rel dynasty with regional conferences. Instead of 3 at a time I use group of 5 schools conference championship game to determine who goes up. Virginia went down in 2030 and never made it back to the acc lol. Kentucky went down for a season and won the CFP as a group of 5 school. I can’t remember what year it was, but I thought that was hilarious

[@Dude00002]

I love this video idea! I think once you work out the kinks and even potentially add to the idea it’ll be so fun to run this back over and over

[@jayyyyyyyyy7524]

I’m not even rooting for any of these teams but man. That ending when the commentator said “DROPPEDDD AUBURN WINS” feels for the guy who dropped it.

[@usnationalist]

Fun idea! You should do an integrated version, instead of paired. Set the conferences in a tier order and and see how far schools climb or drop across multiple conferences.

[@meganhogan5428]

Not jmu going up down up down half of It

[@MrCow-ir4gw]

This was awesome! I would love to see more stuff like this.

[@Palid3d]

Hear me out- Make this a series?

[@timothypierce5303]

I'm trying something similar to what you did, but I'm ranking the conferences, SEC first, based on average school rankings, then at the end of the season the 3 worst teams go to the Big 10 who is second, and then so on down. But also the reverse too, all the way down to the worst conferences. So basically BIG 10 loses Michigan, Ohio St, Oregon (to the SEC), Indiana, Mich St, Nebraska (to the ACC), but gains Florida, Auburn, Miss St (worst SEC), Clemson, Georgia Tech and Pitt (best ACC).

[@JasonMaddox1]

7:25 The issue for Boise State is you need at least 8 teams in order for a conference to be official, but you have seven teams in their conference

[@GabeMiller-bd7td]

You should do a thing where you put the entire Missouri valley conference in for like the Sunbelt or something and follow them for 15 years.

[@dompicc888]

You should do this again. This was a great idea.

[@TheGoldenApex]

This is such a good idea lol I’m gonna love this video🔥

[@HailmaryMondays]

Making the 813 proud bro!! Keep grinding and keep up the great work!!

[@kurokaen2854]

Gotta love seeing Vandy on the LAST seaspn FINALLY claw back into the SEC

[@d1fishyyglazer]

Bro Bordeaux you are one of my favorite CFB content creators. But I have one request. Pls rebuild uva. I have been wanting a uva forever. So if you see this comment pls consider my request.

[@x-90]

46:10 that dude just got dog piled by other dudes

[@GO-TEXANS]

IVE BEEN BEGGING FOR THIS!!!!!

[@holsum1holloway482]

This is so freakin cool! Keep up the amazing uploads. Makes days in the office go by faster lol

[@daslumlordb6197]

I really enjoyed this video. If I had one thing to add it would be to make a part 2 and switch the conferences maybe like .. SEC- PAC 12 B10-MCW ACC- C-USA B12-Sunbelt American-Mac

[@oliver5878]

I like these big idea sim videos. Kinda like clique on 2k. Just like focusing on the whole league instead of just one team

[@flowsfv]

9:39 is why you should rebuild GEORGIA TECH!!!!

[@TheDragoncowStudios]

41:51 What's with the George Hackett glaze, bro so his freshman stat line and decided he is the college Patrick Mahomes 😂

[@SaintGBar22]

I think i would do BIG10 as league 1 ACC league 2 Mac league 3 and Conference USA as league 4 AAC league 5. SEC as League 1, Big12 league 2, PAC league 3 Mountain West league 4 and Sunbelt as league 5. Have promotion and relegation among all of them on each side. Really watch teams rise and fall

[@BisonGaming3334]

As a UCF student I was so happy to see them win the last Natty of this video

[@darksnip3rkillz]

Loved this series. Hate watching Ohio state win anything. Should do more like this

[@mcc820]

Marshall got promoted in the first season and just sat in the middle of the SEC for the whole video

[@ChildrenofTHEHADES]

U should make a rebuild in promotion/relegation

[@Nathanielbowditch6811]

Yo Bordeaux you should do a head coaching thing again also love your content man keep at it😁

[@NoLimitCarter11]

Devin Brown and Maddux Madsen Utah HS Football Legends

[@SubmachineOP]

What europeans think MLS or NFL should be:

[@LJWS8]

But like, relegation in the MLS and NFL would be cool, maybe the panthers would finally get good 😂

[@omgitsjakenjames]

The Panthers and Browns deserve it.

[@joshgriffiths7182]

It does mean there is no such thing as tanking. Also, it’s not just Europe that have promotion and relegation, Asia, Africa and South America, so most of the world, have it in their sports. The US is the odd one out, not Europe 😂

[@ethanmartin1719]

are we wrong though

[@jordynpropst8915]

I want to see a video where the CPU does all recruiting and you just work with what youre given lol

[@TheRojii1]

If you start a new dynasty the pac 12 naturally doesnt have a championship game because of the 2 schools. However if you go to conference rules while in the custom conference menu you can turn on the option for a championship game.

[@M_11_m41n]

I would do it with 10 Conferences of 13 teams each. The Big Ten has the MAC, the Pac-12 has the Mountain West, the SEC has the Sun Belt, the Big 12 will have Conference-USA, and the ACC will have the American Athletic Conference. The military academies and Notre Dame stay independent.

[@MilesMansouri]

Please please please do a USC rebuild we’re so ass😭😭

[@ThegoatTpickensglazer]

BORD IS TRENDING🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🥳🥳🥳🤩🤩🤩🤩😍🥰😘☺️☺️😊😊

[@v1rotatev230]

What a cool idea. Nice to see new content for ncaa lol

[@theItalianshamrock]

Uconn making the semi finals would be insane haha

[@Night5layer1309]

I love the idea of relegation/ promotion but I would like to see the bottom three teams play the top three teams for that relegation have to play a bowl game. It would make bowls actually interesting

[@MajorFuzzelz]

My simulation loves Notre Dame and Sam Houston. I leave the sim to do its own thing, Sam Houston becomes a power house every time. I think it has something to do with recruiting pipelines.oh and Miami Ohio too. It loves these three teams in every dynasty I do.

[@orlandoordasjr3210]

Good idea for a dynasty 👀🔥

[@davidcrouseii575]

Would love to see this concept with the conferences set up before the last realignment (Oregon back in the Pac12, Texas in Big12, etc)