I feel like you could really lean into that weird feedback sound and make some pretty haunting horror soundtrack style songs with this thing.
@draugr9052 жыл бұрын
thats how id play it
@DrJrGenius2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that feedback/resonance sounds very similar to that of a Waterphone
@bright2182 жыл бұрын
I think it lends it's way to last of us soundtrack feel, right?
@4Bakers2 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the Everything soundtrack (Everything is the name of a neat steam game)
@bruellwitz2 жыл бұрын
Also my first thought! That would be amazing. Imagine the goosebump potential!
@Saltytoastplebs2 жыл бұрын
Me: makes a violin shaped like a violin The violin: (demonic screeches) This dude: makes a box with strings The violin: (angelic chanting)
@fatitankeris63272 жыл бұрын
You should put effort into acoustic qualities for sure, that comes before the looks.
@iandeare12 жыл бұрын
It's called a Trapezoid Violin, and a hundred years ago one built by a professional Luthier was favourably compared to a Stradivarius in a blind test... The validity of the test may be debatable, my reference: Violin-making as it was and is, by Heron-Allen, Edward Published 1885 Was for many years, including my time as a student Luthier, considered the Violin Maker's Bible; but, it's author's reputation has diminished somewhat, more recently, he was, in truth, a collector, rather than a technician 😉
@tomasotreasaigh11110 ай бұрын
@@iandeare1 If it stood the test of time and was considered the 'Violin Makers Bible' for so long, then surely it would mean any recent revelations about the authors 'credentials' are purely academic at this point? ;-) If the books information was deemed important (pious even, lol) for almost 150 yrs, then I would assume to dismiss it now is a form of (the all too common) music snobbery, don't you think? Just a thought, peace and best wishes to you all from Ireland, keep making music x
@sahandn92 жыл бұрын
I think the "feedback" sound you're expecting is actually a resonance. I can't tell how it's occurring exactly but maybe has to do with the shape of the chamber
@JGHFunRun2 жыл бұрын
There's a good chance that the amount of movement is simply more than would normally happen for a spring reverb which causes a bit of issues, best I can think of since it sounds a bit like when you hit one. Sadly I don't have one of these so I can't test that theory, and in fact it could just be that it's inside something designed specifically to resonate
@Aeduo2 жыл бұрын
@@JGHFunRun I was thinking maybe it was the vibration of the note being played beating on the vibration of the sound held by the springs. It kinda had the beating interference sound to it of 2 close frequencies constructing and destructing with each other.
@JGHFunRun2 жыл бұрын
@@Aeduo that also would make sense
@bowdownandobey2 жыл бұрын
Maybe sympathetic vibrations?
@wickharr2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if larger f holes could help?
@mjordan42512 жыл бұрын
I love how casually you just invented, made and played this amazing instrument. Kudos man 🤘🏻
@Zavendea2 жыл бұрын
That strange “feedback” effect is definitely you hitting the resonant frequency of a spring. Sounds exactly like a wolf note on a cello (which is happens when you hit the resonant frequency of the body of the instrument.)
@justaweeb90862 жыл бұрын
Learned some new today. Thanks
@itstyromusic2 жыл бұрын
Having a sort of "Dampening" mechanism to mute the springs when you want less or no reverb would be awesome. Bassically like a cloth pad on a lever you can move with your chin to mess with the reverb. Just a thought. :)
@TheVarkol2 жыл бұрын
This!
@warlordtf96082 жыл бұрын
Use the chinpiece akin to a pianist pedal, I like it +1
@LockOfImage3 жыл бұрын
Jesus, I have never heard a violin this sad... I love it!!! Will definitely try to simulate the sound digitally.
@MrJasonodonnell2 жыл бұрын
I had a home made Valve amp from the 70's years ago. I played around with putting thin bands of ShrinkWrap on reverb springs, also tried adhesive foam. The shrink wrap was cool.
@DavidHilowitzMusic2 жыл бұрын
Oh, I have to try that!
@PeterEvans_music2 жыл бұрын
That would sound very cool for mandolin, because the unfreted strings are supposed to resonate for certain styles it would be like having continual ringing strings which would be great
@SmolFrogge2 жыл бұрын
"Looking into the wistful mist, lost in memories one cannot recant. Mired in the echoes." Yes it is a very inspiring sound.
@rabiolied2 жыл бұрын
I think it'd be quite a good idea to try and maybe ship this out to people and stuff as it's own instrument because it really does look and sound like a whole different instrument from the regular violin
@theaquariancontrarian3316 Жыл бұрын
Very eerie and beautiful!
@glowinggrenade2 жыл бұрын
I'm not a professional luthier but I did read up a design document that the soundpost-bridge combo is meant to act as a lever system to convert the horizontal movement of the strings into a vertical movement on the sound board, and the soundpost acts as the stiffness required for one side of the lever to work.
@eagereyes3 жыл бұрын
Very cool! You probably won't be able to do this through the sound holes, but I figure adding a bit of damping (like cotton or some thin pieces of fabric) would help control the reverb without reducing it too much.
@DavidHilowitzMusic3 жыл бұрын
I actually might be able to do this? Somewhere I have a tiny dentist's mirror that I would need to use to actually see what I was doing. :)
@eagereyes3 жыл бұрын
@@DavidHilowitzMusic Ah, neat! And your crazy sound post tool might work to get things into place. Seems worth a shot to me; it sounds fantastic IMHO, just needs to be reigned in a bit.
@brad429482 жыл бұрын
Not really - spring reverb is independent of air volume (unless you're intending to pack the spring enclosure itself with fabric... which would have some effect, mainly in reducing the upper frequencies 👍)
@bronsoncarder24912 жыл бұрын
@@brad42948 If the cloth is in the right position, the spring will contact the cloth when it goes out of control, dampening it.
@generic_pebble2 жыл бұрын
That‘s a really cool video and I‘m only a few minutes in… The introduction was very good. I like the fact, that you explain, what a reverb spring does.
@dekoningtan3 жыл бұрын
I love that you have a jaguar guitar! good taste, man, good taste!
@MusicalWizardryMarcoIannello3 жыл бұрын
You never cease to amaze, my friend
@chezLynn2 жыл бұрын
Love the haunting sound you've achieved with this reverb violin. really hope that you continue to experiment and fine tune it until it's a dependable/useful instrument and... fingers crossed... share the results with us. Good luck!
@micah_noel3 жыл бұрын
That’s beautiful man. I found this from the homemade instruments FB page and I think I may be inspired to experiment with springs in my own fiddles.
@bornwild39552 жыл бұрын
Nice job you got a fine tune for a play wood box. In Mexico the armadillos and turtles shields are used as reverb box. The tuning goes depending the layers of epoxy or resins.. not to hard not to soft Thanks for sharing your masterpiece
@JohnSk823 жыл бұрын
I'm impressed dude !Great stuff
@myrothe2 жыл бұрын
This sounds absolutely amazing. Once you get the hang of it, or find a way to slightly dampen it to control it the way you’d like I really hope you start posting some full length songs with this. I’m genuinely excited about this
@TheEthanwilsonАй бұрын
I have been trying to play my sisters cheap violin for years and can’t make it sound as good as this hunk of plywood. This is amazing
@titusbarker79213 жыл бұрын
Think this is my fave of your videos! Lovely project. Really enjoyed it
@DavidTritschler3 жыл бұрын
Sounds amazing David.
@linqua17282 жыл бұрын
I wager a lot of people would enjoy building your hobby ideas and the jobs that would create. I enjoy your videos, thank you.
@ALRatmosphericmusic2 жыл бұрын
The sound of this violin is fabulous and your ingenuity incredible !
@tomasotreasaigh11110 ай бұрын
I have never played a violin but I have to give this spring reverb thing a try with a diy build, a cigar box guitar maybe? Thanks for all the great vids and inspiration David, peace from Ireland to you and yours mo chara.
@guitarshredder1972Ай бұрын
So you could put a bit of fabric in the tank and it will act like a gate. You want to place the fabric towards one end of the tank. The closer to the end of the springs gives you max reverb, the closer to the middle gives you much less reverb or none.
@Ithirahad2 жыл бұрын
This is a rabbit hole that needs deeper diving. One could probably make an amazing-sounding acoustic instrument (or several - what about dulcimers, for instance? erhu? even wind instruments?) by purpose-building a good spring array for this use case.
@TheWorldBelow3602 жыл бұрын
Great performance. And the playing only adds to the experience. Nice presentation.
@angeruroth3 жыл бұрын
Wow! It sounds really really good David 👍
@daneguitarist12 жыл бұрын
could you put like.... a movable level sort of deal that can mute the reverb tank, or dampen? really cool! I hope new instruments come from this :)
@Jim_One-wl4ke3 ай бұрын
Wow 🤩..that’s the effect I was looking for without electronics tweaking. Thanks so much ❤ love it.
@Mevzuderin3 жыл бұрын
I guess you have to make some sort of mechanic that you can control the tightness of the springs. If you want to controll the vibration ofc
@rasmusn.e.m10643 жыл бұрын
Yeah. In cigar box guitars, some makers use box mattress springs with hooks on them and then attach them to screw-in hooks attached at an angle inside the body. You can then turn the screw-in hooks to tighten the springs, or even adjust the height so you can control whether the spring is touching the soundboard or not. Dell Puckett has an excellent video on that: kzbin.info/www/bejne/onundJ2lj6-MbJI
@DavidHilowitzMusic3 жыл бұрын
That’s really cool!!
@iancameron8 ай бұрын
Very cool David, what a brilliant idea! Cheers from Vancouver Canada.
@heyitsburt3 жыл бұрын
Amazing content! I just subscribed this past week and have not been disappointed yet! So many ideas for projects now!
@273Marcelo2 жыл бұрын
Amazing watching someone crossing the border of regular life, congratulation about your creativity
@eatfruitsalad3452 жыл бұрын
amazed at the intricate engineering of the reverb tank -- great job explaining it!
@julianl.1092 жыл бұрын
Oh that’s amazing! I’ll make one if I can get my hands on a reverb tank
@jessebondmusic2 жыл бұрын
dude glued the back on before testing the electronics... balls of steel, legend lol
@guitfidle2 жыл бұрын
Wow, this is my first visit to your channel, and I absolutely love this!! I recently bought a cheap violin neck and hardware to put on a cigar box, also recently set up a cheap violin with octave strings (one fifth above the tuning of a cello!), and have yet another cheap violin I will be setting up with flourocarbon ukulele strings just to see what it sounds like (make sure you get a non-reentrant set, so the low string is the fattest). I have also in the past made a teardrop violin completely from scratch- carved the neck, fingerboasrd, tailpiece, and scratch made bridge. I also have a few reverb tanks sitting in my garage, a couple new old stock and a couple used ones..... I think I might have to give this a try! Thanks for the inspiration 😍😍
@That_Wise_Sage_ Жыл бұрын
What a lovely experiment! The finished sound kind of reminds me of a twisted landscape in an RPG style game. Like you've just been teleported to another realm and you have to navigate the strange environment to return home and continue your journey. It reminds me most of the Silent realms in Skyward sword and the Dark realm from a Link to the Past.
@karingriffinelectricacoust88223 жыл бұрын
Dave…love your demo!
@floatingdoor2 жыл бұрын
Dude you have started to become one of my favorite KZbinrs. I love all your work. Really looking forward to seeing more in the future.
@AAIVE2 жыл бұрын
i love the texture of the finished product on my ears, what a cool thing you made! music experiments are so beyond worth embarking on. :)
@karingriffinelectricacoust88223 жыл бұрын
Dave, love your explanation and the way you take the viewers through the process…💖👍👏👏👏👏
@joshbabbitt9243 Жыл бұрын
After watching many videos, I had no idea you played violin like that...nor that you build them. Love finding what other vices each musician I encounter also likes to mess with. Like it's always visable whatever someone is headfirst into...(Like a guitarist for example.) But then, you later find out they play the keys and then the drums and then even wild synths at home, after work, lol. I guess I don't know what I'm really getting at, but it seems we never ever want to stop making music, somehow.
@TLA-ml2lg9 ай бұрын
This would be great for acoustic guitar.
@mchest70003 жыл бұрын
Super cool David 👍
@JonDeth Жыл бұрын
*Very, very clever!*
@TxmmyBeats3 жыл бұрын
So cool!
@k4rec42 жыл бұрын
Wow, the first "riff" (if I could call it this way) gave me deep Bioshock vibes. Pretty cool sound.
@ossirioth2 жыл бұрын
Sounds amazing, what I'd suggest as an upgrade would be a muffle button to kill the reverb (including that resonance feeback loop which you noted) - fit a button/switch/pad somewhere accessible which activates a maffle bar to drop across the reverbe springs: similar to a piano's muffle peddle. I'd guess somekind of shaped lever that's activated by laying the pinky side of the fretting hand into it, located around the (vertically) bottom of the body by the neck might be the place to put it? I'm not a violinist but that feels the right place for it as a first go. Great experiment though, sound fascinating!
@AlexeyFilippenkoPlummet3 жыл бұрын
How David accidentally created a superb sounding violin. I mean you could record it for movie soundtracks and I doubt anyone would think "hmm this violin doesn't sound pro enough". And when it falls apart, just glue it back together! Don't forget to use the same glue for the signature sound %) Let's make a library out of it too!
@bjrnvindabildtrup93372 жыл бұрын
Those imperfections sound awesome!
@robertchamberlain3 жыл бұрын
Amazing!!
@nicholaswalker7198 Жыл бұрын
Try using different rubber washers with varying softness and rigidity between the chassis and the wood like shock absorbers. I’m going to try this! Thanks for the video!
@robwebnoid5763 Жыл бұрын
I've done the same thing decades ago on my 1970's Conn home keyboard organ with that resonation & noise from the spring reverb tank, as when you push or bump around the organ which makes the springs go wack.
@doctorauxiliary3 жыл бұрын
this is just plain fantastic!! bravo!!
@totallyunmemorable2 жыл бұрын
There was a device back in the early 80s (if I remember right) called the Aspri reverb. It hooked under the string and against the front edge of the bridge saddle on an acoustic guitar. The other end attached at the butt end of the guitar. It contained springs that were shorter and fatter than those in a reverb tank. It did the same as this, and sounded quite good. I had one. They didn't sell well though so the company went away. I wish I could find one now.
@No.0.o.03 жыл бұрын
Holy cow! I need one! Do a bass one with screen door springs next! Haha
@Duncan-Mac-Raven Жыл бұрын
I like the box look, and that sounds Awesome! 😊
@anymoretime2 жыл бұрын
Oh, that's very nice to hear. All your videos are rich and interesting. Hope you sell this violins! I wish to have one.
@PhillipRaymondGoodman2 жыл бұрын
Actually really love the reverb distortions, one of the quirks of the instrument
@ViolinSoundscapes2 жыл бұрын
Wow!! Sounds amazing!!!❤️❤️❤️👍
@discontinuuity2 жыл бұрын
Very cool! Reminds me of some of the Scandinavian fiddles with resonant strings like the nyckelharpa, hardingfele, and låtfiol.
@BF-up5xw3 жыл бұрын
That sense of danger of everything getting too crazy makes it even more poignant to listen to. It can be understated and yet still sound dangerous. The Brown Sound of violins!
@tonymckeown13143 жыл бұрын
Nice one, Dave - great idea!
@andrewvitale71282 жыл бұрын
It's got an unusual sound that I can see many musical applications for it nice job!
@andrefelixstudio28332 жыл бұрын
Bloody amazing excellent video nice job on the violin!
@themadduck87842 жыл бұрын
Yep, gonna need a sample library of this.
@mr.astronuts38252 жыл бұрын
When it falls apart, you could maybe rebuild it and make the soundpost go onto the reverb tank where the transducer would go so it vibrates the springs more directly
@somnyad2 жыл бұрын
I love your creativity and excitement. Your ideas are so good. Now I want to make something like this!!
@indiefilmandmusic2 жыл бұрын
Very much like an Indian sarangi. Instead of springs, it's 32 resonating strings.
@TheErilaz2 жыл бұрын
Taggelharpa also has those.
@ruthmcevoy83002 жыл бұрын
omg this sounds incredible. I would for sure buy one of those.
@zeromt35772 жыл бұрын
Great work! I can't wait to try out the Decent Sample library you posted too. Also, I don't know if this was intentional, but the lighting and colors in your workbench shots (from roughly 0:25 to 5:15 ) are extremely soothing and meditative. Those shots (or similar), possibly at slower speeds, would make a great, ambient "music video" for a track or two of the big, swelling reverbs you're getting out of that great super cool box violin.
@charlyandco.44882 жыл бұрын
Wow I really want to hear more music played with this violin
@mikedegrazia2 жыл бұрын
That sounds really awesome! Nice job.
@karingriffinelectricacoust88223 жыл бұрын
Love your experimenting…thats the head space that will take the violin to the next level! Love your work! 💖👍
@naimabid2 жыл бұрын
Wow! That's a very nice idea! Well done David. I like it! Congrats
@FLH3official3 жыл бұрын
The soundpost: In French this piece is called l'âme, the soul. Poetic.
@OliverCodd3 жыл бұрын
SO good! Love your channel David. Both entertaining and highly educational.
@arampianist2 жыл бұрын
this totally belongs in a film score!!! so awesome!!!
@CardamomCake3 жыл бұрын
Super awesome. Isn’t this technically a pickup system too? I never seen a non piezo pickup system for a bowed string instrument.
@starvingmillett Жыл бұрын
Late to the party, but you could try with stiffer springs so that it doesn't overload them? It will cut down the length of reverb, but it will take more to get the springs to start "clipping".
@LouieTaylorMusic2 жыл бұрын
I love your videos, they have such a wonderful aesthetic and I love your filming style and colouring. Also, it goes without saying that your projects and creativity are always a pleasure to watch. thank you for what you do. Take care
@WingDingMcKing2 жыл бұрын
very cool! piece at the end is dope too
@pattmahiney2 жыл бұрын
Man, music is cool.... This is awesome, dude. Thanks for sharing
@andrewhdemarest2 жыл бұрын
gives off a very Mafia or dramatic Italian movie scene vibe... loved it!
@benprout85352 жыл бұрын
Lots of comments talking about the sound you get and yes it's lovely. But also this was an incredibly pleasant and interesting video to watch and I will absolutely be subscribing :)
@williamscott32962 жыл бұрын
I come up with this idea in my head for acoustic guitar, have a spirited discussion about it with a friend, then this is first in my news feed. Jesus.
@MrAshleysPlace2 жыл бұрын
As a non musical person and more of a maker I did really enjoy that! The sound was very haunting. Cool video!!!
@danielpirone80283 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video!
@alex_007302 жыл бұрын
this feels like a really relaxed version of mister maker
@thomasmartinscott2 жыл бұрын
Very nice! Looks cool and sounds GREAT!
@mintyfops2 жыл бұрын
Loved the video, although I was disappointed I didn't hear any pizzicato playing on that eerie piece of woodwork you've made!
@chrisliddiard725 Жыл бұрын
I would put the original springs back on, and introduce tensioning screws, so you can tighten and dampen those springs, eg adjust the amount of energy that's being transferred from the body of the instrument to the reverb tank. Great sound. Makes me wonder what this would sound like on an acoustic guitar.
@butterybiscuit3462 жыл бұрын
Those feedback loops would make this a great instrument for a horror/cosmic horror soundtrack