I called this Falcon's best matchup. Time to prove it.

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FatalityFalcon

FatalityFalcon

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@Otto-Maximilien
@Otto-Maximilien 2 жыл бұрын
Respect to Kirby Kid for dealing with a tough matchup.
@daviddivers155
@daviddivers155 2 жыл бұрын
Facts
@erickalvarez6486
@erickalvarez6486 2 жыл бұрын
That is hard to tell, obviously we're in Fatality's side but maybe Kirby Kid things is easier for Roll since the shield or who knows. I mean the combos mean nothing, is a big heavy so he might be used to lmao
@captainmurphy4949
@captainmurphy4949 2 жыл бұрын
That’s probably how fatality feels against G&W
@j0hnnybrav01
@j0hnnybrav01 2 жыл бұрын
Dealing with it? You mean accepting to just being a punching bag/combo video 😅.
@davidsalomon7968
@davidsalomon7968 2 жыл бұрын
Major respect for sure
@shoegaze3750
@shoegaze3750 2 жыл бұрын
as always the commentary from coney and tk is hilarious 😂
@Anti_Villain
@Anti_Villain 2 жыл бұрын
Such fun watching them and Fatality work magic
@andrewprahst2529
@andrewprahst2529 2 жыл бұрын
Old classic
@verbage432
@verbage432 2 жыл бұрын
jesus christ, I think Mufasa had a better chance against Scar at ledge than K.Rool does against Falcon in this MU
@kyte9530
@kyte9530 2 жыл бұрын
😂
@tomwanders6022
@tomwanders6022 2 жыл бұрын
Long live THE KING!
@Chair-Son
@Chair-Son 2 жыл бұрын
Another great falcon!
@lukekulp2997
@lukekulp2997 2 жыл бұрын
The “Yuck” from Coney killed me on the nair 1 to knee kill 😂
@ether2275
@ether2275 2 жыл бұрын
It is pretty yucky how Falcon is just allowed to have that shit. But he aint the only one with such bs ways to kill.
@Vic_714
@Vic_714 2 жыл бұрын
@@ether2275 It's only fair when he has zero projectiles or any of that magic sauce.
@Vic_714
@Vic_714 2 жыл бұрын
@@ether2275 Also has to land perfectly.
@AlexanderLopez-lu2rq
@AlexanderLopez-lu2rq 2 жыл бұрын
"You're never beating me with that character" at 4:17
@vapeshrimp5220
@vapeshrimp5220 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly props to kirbykid for sticking it out, made for a super entertaining set. It’s good for the longevity of the game
@likenoother6561
@likenoother6561 2 жыл бұрын
idk if this was super entertaining it was straight up murder. lol
@TheSpartanlaw
@TheSpartanlaw 2 жыл бұрын
> Smash ultimate > Longevity choose 1
@ChitoMcBoom
@ChitoMcBoom 2 жыл бұрын
How can you give one guy props but not the other? They both would’ve played regardless of the match ups. Make it make sense lol
@likenoother6561
@likenoother6561 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChitoMcBoom nah . Falcon had it easy. This is literally free for him.
@ChitoMcBoom
@ChitoMcBoom 2 жыл бұрын
@@likenoother6561 the player bracket is wide open for players to counter pick yet throwing shade for one's main is ok? make it make sense lol
@Spyder-Marth
@Spyder-Marth 2 жыл бұрын
I knew Fatality was gonna win this one. Sometimes it's best to counterpick, folks. No shame in it and no disrespect to Kirbykid
@meanyomama
@meanyomama 2 жыл бұрын
i assume this comment is for the babies watching this video?
@Spyder-Marth
@Spyder-Marth 2 жыл бұрын
@@meanyomama ?
@calebw8189
@calebw8189 2 жыл бұрын
@@meanyomama ??
@Jackpauler4lyfe
@Jackpauler4lyfe 2 жыл бұрын
mr Saturn is on his villain arc
@DunkTasticMan
@DunkTasticMan 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I’ve talked to Kirby kid and he said that he’s very loyal to his character and as a krool main that’s very true for me as well.
@underbandit2372
@underbandit2372 2 жыл бұрын
2:04 At this part is when I really started to feel bad for KirbyKid. Because at this point he literally just needed a miracle to pull through the match
@destroyer0011
@destroyer0011 2 жыл бұрын
As soon as I saw the King K Rool Matchup, I was like "Uh oh Kirbykid is going to have a really really bad time"
@drcreed6320
@drcreed6320 2 жыл бұрын
3:55 Tk is my goat thats mad funny 😂😂
@THS_Anton633
@THS_Anton633 2 жыл бұрын
“One of the most rotten players” Wise words from Coney
@starmantheta2028
@starmantheta2028 2 жыл бұрын
Running into Fatality in pools has got to be some of the worst bracket luck for KirbyKid. To put it in perspective, KK does better against Sparg0 than he does Fatality.
@coachjoshgames
@coachjoshgames 2 жыл бұрын
wut really? is that character matchup really that much better or is it something about sparg0's playing style that kirbykid does better with? genuinely curious
@starmantheta2028
@starmantheta2028 2 жыл бұрын
@@coachjoshgames No, the match-up really is that ass. Cloud is still good in that MU, mind, but k rool is generally better at contesting him and Cloud still needs to navigate Krown and Blunderbuss which can mess up his approaches. Not only that but Cloud is way easier for k rool to edge guard so he can't get too cocky. Falcon, on the other hand, massacres K Rool and shuts down pretty much his entire kit. Falcon can convert nearly any stray hit into a combo that kills; Fatality described it as making K Rool into a MvC2 character. He's way too fast to safely zone out because he can easily avoid projectiles and get in before k rool can recover, making playing a keep away game or controlling neutral basically impossible. K rool gets whiff punished extra hard. Not only that, falcon can edge guard k rool easily by dropping from ledge then doing reverse up b; normally most characters won't do this because k rool can go lower than they can safely drop down to contest, but since falcon's command grab Refreshes his up b he can do it ad nauseum. I'm a K Rool believer, and many of his bad match-ups are heavily exaggerated, but this match-up is just excruciating.
@coachjoshgames
@coachjoshgames 2 жыл бұрын
@@starmantheta2028 ahh ic ic. thanks for the in-depth breakdown btw! super appreciate it the technical analysis!
@Spyder-Marth
@Spyder-Marth 2 жыл бұрын
That random "FALCON KICK" at the very end is hilarious tho. I actually got startled, which is even funnier 💀 😅 🤣
@SergeantButters
@SergeantButters 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a k. rool main and that down tilt ruined my day 1:16
@TheAmazingDom
@TheAmazingDom 2 жыл бұрын
batshit like that is my least favorite thing about playing heavies.
@SergeantButters
@SergeantButters 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheAmazingDom :(
@A_Shut-in_NEET
@A_Shut-in_NEET 2 жыл бұрын
Fatality said "Goodnight girl"
@boston5559
@boston5559 2 жыл бұрын
Even as a decent K.rool pocket, i wouldn't have never ever thought about that smartest option coming from the best 1:38
@isaiahthechristiangamer8716
@isaiahthechristiangamer8716 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t play K. Rool, but shouldn’t he had recovered low to ledge?
@312bigbeanburrito
@312bigbeanburrito 2 жыл бұрын
@@isaiahthechristiangamer8716 Fatality is really good at covering low
@tresseis8944
@tresseis8944 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly. Gonna steal it
@fidel_soto
@fidel_soto 2 жыл бұрын
hahhaha what do you mean? It's obvious you have to recover high against some characters (like Cpt Falcon in this case)
@f25mart
@f25mart 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that this video is only 4 minutes long tells me everything I need to know.
@isaiahthechristiangamer8716
@isaiahthechristiangamer8716 2 жыл бұрын
1:18 What the heck was that Down Tilt?
@TheFullPackage
@TheFullPackage 2 жыл бұрын
His down tilt has a hit box on his upper body which leads to him catching people who are colliding with him from right behind, usually happens to fat characters lol
@phengmoua2389
@phengmoua2389 2 жыл бұрын
You knew the game was over when that happened lol
@zachery2243
@zachery2243 2 жыл бұрын
“My brother in Christ you picked the character “ has me weak af 😭😭
@levijessegonzalez3629
@levijessegonzalez3629 2 жыл бұрын
i think any fatality fan that was watching this live KNEW what the end result was going to be
@javoclean960
@javoclean960 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to see KirbyKid’s improv and preparation, but against the top of the bunch, matchups show their colors and boy that was tough
@superkulty64
@superkulty64 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who used to play K Rool before retiring, I always find the Falcon matchup kinda fun despite how horrible it is. I know K Rool is basically combo food for the matchup, but I also like Falcon a lot (which may explain). I think this matchup is basically a good starting point of how good your neutral and punish game as Falcon is or anyone who is trying to learn the character completely from scratch.
@lcppproductions7910
@lcppproductions7910 2 жыл бұрын
It's weird because professionally I can see why this would be a broken matchup for Falcon, but casually or picking up the character it's actually kind of challenging because you might not be use to chaining moves together or keeping the agression on. You also have to be good at baiting out moves or else you'll get destroyed by the armor. My roommate used to kill my Falcon with this character. I only one once but it felt like a gargantuan mental effort just to finally get that one win.
@superkulty64
@superkulty64 2 жыл бұрын
@@lcppproductions7910 K Rool - Falcon is actually one of my favorite matchups to watch, but it's for completely different reasons than say Falcon - Falco. I always find that matchup interesting at different levels of play. Top level, that matchup sucks for K Rool, but at low level, I could see this matchup being even. The reason why I said that K Rool is a good matchup to start with for learning Falcon (although not my most recommended) is that you not only practice the basics on how to move Falcon around, but you can also practice basic combos and kill confirms. Since K Rool has such a big hurtbox, it's more lenient for Falcon to get his combos right as opposed to someone like Pikachu (f*** this character). It may feel mentally hard at first since K Rool can be quite annoying if you don't know what to do against him, but he's very duable. K Rool is actually one of my favorite characters to fight in the whole game regardless of who I play, even the ditto.
@lcppproductions7910
@lcppproductions7910 2 жыл бұрын
@@superkulty64 I think kill confirms is really what makes the difference. It's easy to get combos off, but what makes the matchup "easy"/heavily in Falcon's favor is figuring out how to land combos into knee/dair/even bair offstage so that you can kill K-Rool without having to rack up damage to absurdly high percents.
@superkulty64
@superkulty64 2 жыл бұрын
@@lcppproductions7910 exactly. I heavily think K Rool is a good skill check for Falcon on how consistent you are at landing your kill confirms against heavies. Legit the only way K Rool can win this matchup is either if the Falcon player does not know what he's doing or the Kroc just heavily relies on cheese (which is still not easy to do considering his options are super telegraphed).
@SparklingHarmony
@SparklingHarmony 2 жыл бұрын
When I saw this matchup, I immediately thought of your Falcon tier list haha
@ryanscibetta3214
@ryanscibetta3214 2 жыл бұрын
K.Rool is Shelly Duvall in The Shining, and Neutral Air is the bathroom door she’s using to hide from Jack Torrence
@yabbadabbindude
@yabbadabbindude 2 жыл бұрын
Kudos to the K Rool player for not giving up
@Blastros01
@Blastros01 2 жыл бұрын
Kirby Kid did really well considering a lot of that was just unavoidable. Ult's meta for top players will probably revolve around people who have at least 2 mains for counter picks or just play Steve
@luislebronaponte2737
@luislebronaponte2737 2 жыл бұрын
1:17 Inspirational Moving Educational Would recommend
@PomadaGaming
@PomadaGaming 2 жыл бұрын
1:16 oh hell nah brother
@TheCrusadingKING
@TheCrusadingKING 2 жыл бұрын
How is it that you look perpetually calm but also perpetually angry lol
@cornlourd
@cornlourd 2 жыл бұрын
yup. It's one of those matchups where you just accept your fate. I don't even think krool fans are mad about it lol
@Aflay1
@Aflay1 2 жыл бұрын
I like imagining people going into this video like "Who's going to remember obscure information like that?" Then moments later "Twitch Chat won't shut the fuck up about that obscure thing Fatality said that one time." Based Twitch chat, reminding you of every little thing. Either that, or holy shit, K.Rool is so bad in the Falcon matchup that everyone just unanimously agreed without coersion, which is just as funny. K.Rool is such a bastard for players who can't beat him, that seeing him get beat up like this is cathartic. Players such as Vernias.
@kisameh420
@kisameh420 2 жыл бұрын
Twitch chat is the last thing from Based
@DarkThomy
@DarkThomy 2 жыл бұрын
Tbf it didnt go as bad as you'd think !
@ringothefly6514
@ringothefly6514 2 жыл бұрын
I don't remember Super Smash Bros. Melee looking this clean!
@kracin
@kracin Жыл бұрын
Lots of time the Krool could use down-B to reflect an attack thats ledgeguarding him.... It's like people are completely opposed to using the reflect even when it makes sense.
@popoha4380
@popoha4380 2 жыл бұрын
My inner Kremlin be in full cringe. But the match is wack.
@exeterd9
@exeterd9 2 жыл бұрын
Id hate myself if i had to play this game for money
@sonimatic
@sonimatic 2 жыл бұрын
Shoutout to Coney for the space mount tee shirt
@LordHypnos4
@LordHypnos4 2 жыл бұрын
I love watching kirby kids krool
@MrGameguyC
@MrGameguyC 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it sucks K. Rool struggles this much, but you do what you gotta do.
@coleten_shafer5859
@coleten_shafer5859 2 жыл бұрын
1:37 Poor fuckin’ K Rool took *28%* from 1 jab.
@p3nguin11
@p3nguin11 Жыл бұрын
respect to any KRool that doesn't camp and plays the game
@BloopTheNoop
@BloopTheNoop 2 жыл бұрын
I knew it was Coney once he mentioned the hat
@Carson9121
@Carson9121 2 жыл бұрын
Good lord that was insane! That definitely is a bad match up for krool. 👀😂🤣
@SparkyForce
@SparkyForce 2 жыл бұрын
oof that ending, glad to see fatality hitting those tho
@pelastudents3335
@pelastudents3335 2 жыл бұрын
NGL. I was cheering for Kirby Kid because, I play K Rool and my friend plays C. Falcon. This hurt me in many ways.
@isaiahthechristiangamer8716
@isaiahthechristiangamer8716 2 жыл бұрын
3:30 Deal with it
@DawsonNeece
@DawsonNeece 2 жыл бұрын
Fatality is so goated
@CarlJT
@CarlJT 2 жыл бұрын
This is strange and I wouldn’t know why Kirbykid wouldn’t know it but the down tilt at ledge is so consistent at two framing the opponent idk why he never uses it
@sahlaysta3399
@sahlaysta3399 2 жыл бұрын
No it isn't
@greedo194
@greedo194 2 жыл бұрын
Falcon has a very good ledgehang so he's very hard to twoframe
@CarlJT
@CarlJT 2 жыл бұрын
@@greedo194 fair enough. I just know that the down tilt would usually work.
@CarlJT
@CarlJT 2 жыл бұрын
@@sahlaysta3399 have you tried this?? I have literally seen K.Rule34 do this and make valid points as to why it’s consistent
@sahlaysta3399
@sahlaysta3399 2 жыл бұрын
@@CarlJT I wouldn't take advice from that clown
@danielmartinez4919
@danielmartinez4919 2 жыл бұрын
Fatality hasnt met my k.rool
@ardeetheone
@ardeetheone 2 жыл бұрын
This match was so sad as a k rool main 😭
@shinjinator100
@shinjinator100 2 жыл бұрын
You guessed right!
@Save_Train
@Save_Train 2 жыл бұрын
cool to see KirbyKid get more shine.
@YourTRANQUILITY
@YourTRANQUILITY 2 жыл бұрын
petition to get the old snes fzero music intro back :((
@Ridlay_
@Ridlay_ 2 жыл бұрын
Dang it really is that brutal huh.
@doublelizard767
@doublelizard767 2 жыл бұрын
I understand where kirbykid is coming from, but for me, getting destroyed by my buddy and his Falco every week made me stop one tricking characters. Melee Falcon vs Falco on FD is a fever dream of footsies and constant failed power shields
@hungrysaiyan2192
@hungrysaiyan2192 2 жыл бұрын
What did he actually tell him at the end?
@Dwamning_YT4262
@Dwamning_YT4262 2 жыл бұрын
Ok we believe you
@greatstaro9255
@greatstaro9255 2 жыл бұрын
He was the best King K-rool??? Omg I had no idea. Of course he is very good, but he needs to learn Falcon's matchup because he could have avoided some mistakes
@fcnator
@fcnator 2 жыл бұрын
Right...
@TotiJK
@TotiJK 2 жыл бұрын
Look for dans comment in the matchup chart video it gave me a good laugh after seeing this video
@brucerhymer4148
@brucerhymer4148 2 жыл бұрын
Fatality just really good # one of the best players in smash bros hands down
@nicholashopper5862
@nicholashopper5862 2 жыл бұрын
I saw you at the venue walking round, yelling sonething between sets, but i couldnt hear you. What were you saying?
@DauntlessBlade___
@DauntlessBlade___ 2 жыл бұрын
Love the gameplay
@DaNVe652
@DaNVe652 2 жыл бұрын
Man you're amazing
@kevinquinones.8267
@kevinquinones.8267 2 жыл бұрын
Is Kirbykid Ben Gold?
@ghostaccountlmao
@ghostaccountlmao 2 жыл бұрын
As a melee only viewer, Coney and TK had some of the best commetary I've heard in a very long time. Absolute quality stuff. wp Fatality
@iwillgosomewhere
@iwillgosomewhere 2 жыл бұрын
As a melee player, hard disagree
@magerr98
@magerr98 2 жыл бұрын
Why the bm headshake after the match? what happened to old fatality
@iamconfusion5323
@iamconfusion5323 2 жыл бұрын
Offended by a headshake, are we?
@magerr98
@magerr98 2 жыл бұрын
@@iamconfusion5323 No, I just don't think bm is necessary in a match; maybe I'm just looking too much into it who knows
@wuhhlfarg5578
@wuhhlfarg5578 2 жыл бұрын
bm?
@magerr98
@magerr98 2 жыл бұрын
@@wuhhlfarg5578 bad manners. maybe thats old internet lingo by now lol
@wuhhlfarg5578
@wuhhlfarg5578 2 жыл бұрын
@@magerr98 I am not a native English speaker so that's probably the reason i didn't know it Thanks
@moocow17
@moocow17 2 жыл бұрын
Great now I gotta go fight my friends falcon to see if this is true...KK was trying to go too deep when krool can outrange. No ftilts, not enough crown in air to keep falcon pinned. No Bair spikes when falcon goes low...sad
@ricksanchez-qx5zz
@ricksanchez-qx5zz 2 жыл бұрын
Good stuff would love to actually see a ganon match up chart half the cast probably -2 xD
@tropikilla
@tropikilla 2 жыл бұрын
Not half, only a third. There's still characters that belong in -1 and -3
@Mepphy99
@Mepphy99 2 жыл бұрын
this matchup is not even bad for Ganondorf lol but people can't believe that worse Falcon but can do stuff
@michaelnelson8618
@michaelnelson8618 2 жыл бұрын
commentator bias? screw those partial scallawags, fatality is a goat
@lfwalrus
@lfwalrus 2 жыл бұрын
The opening minute of this video shows king K winning neutral through nair, if Kirby had run off stage and properly spaced nair he easily could have taken stocks, I don’t see how this is a bad matchup considering fade back crown throw and flacons lacking recovery
@justaliljello5198
@justaliljello5198 2 жыл бұрын
Did you watch the rest of the set? Look at the last game
@lfwalrus
@lfwalrus 2 жыл бұрын
@@justaliljello5198 time and time again Kirby kid approaches instead of throwing retreating crown, falcon has no projectiles or reflector and dies relatively early to F-air, I would like to see Kirby kid play more defensive against all melee opponents
@alightened
@alightened 2 жыл бұрын
Lol I don’t think he said you’ll never beat me. Probably more like, I’m sorry man, that’s so obnoxious good game
@Alchemy9033
@Alchemy9033 2 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah 😎
@PomadaGaming
@PomadaGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Ok ok brother lol
@eightjake6211
@eightjake6211 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah this mu blows, it’s better to just counterpick. K rool just can’t get out of disadvantage, and then falcon up b just negates k rools recovery
@ParkAir33
@ParkAir33 2 жыл бұрын
I mean yeah you can say whatever you want about any match-up between characters, but whoever is playing them is a totally different story...
@Cozmix-7
@Cozmix-7 2 жыл бұрын
Dam, this really is just a reupload of the match itself XD
@sabokgaming3438
@sabokgaming3438 2 жыл бұрын
To be one of the easiest fights, the gap was pretty close
@swaerd3264
@swaerd3264 2 жыл бұрын
More a testament to how good Kirby Kid is, and also to how close top players can make almost any game.
@nicholassmith8060
@nicholassmith8060 2 жыл бұрын
He got 2 stocked both games, that's not close lol
@mire_cs
@mire_cs 2 жыл бұрын
1:14 how the hell did they both get ledge here lmfao wtf is ultimate, this looks like a bug to a melee player
@soggyssb5192
@soggyssb5192 2 жыл бұрын
Edgehogging hasn't been a thing since smash 4 bruh. Kirbykid just went for ledgetrump too early.
@MercMercury
@MercMercury 2 жыл бұрын
Fatality bringing in the IRL disrespect this time 😏
@jimmyalex5276
@jimmyalex5276 2 жыл бұрын
I respect fatality, probably ultimates best falcon or at least one of, however the first game looked like incredibly low level play for some reason
@yorkie4295
@yorkie4295 2 жыл бұрын
Discipline
@ItchyBurritoMiniAltThingy
@ItchyBurritoMiniAltThingy 8 ай бұрын
Doable for K Rool though, ngl
@jesterclownmime
@jesterclownmime 9 ай бұрын
Its K. Rool, he's bottom of the barrel because all of his matchups are bad.
@ethanmcroy
@ethanmcroy 2 жыл бұрын
The recovery in this game is absolutely braindead. Nothing about it creates interesting ledgeplay/gameplay. There's no stakes. There's no hazard. There's not enough breathtaking moments.
@thunderb1rd.1320
@thunderb1rd.1320 2 жыл бұрын
ngl dont like the commentary during this set but this is actually just in-game bullying lool.
@Pizza_Dough1
@Pizza_Dough1 2 жыл бұрын
Yo
@ethanhna
@ethanhna 2 жыл бұрын
P
@salsaspartan7
@salsaspartan7 2 жыл бұрын
Ha! Melee is the game KZbin shows in the description. Lmao! Even they know Melee is better. Rofl!!
@drewthompson8861
@drewthompson8861 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe people are still out here wearing masks💀
@mxm_prime2191
@mxm_prime2191 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine caring about not getting other people sick, wow, could never be us gigachads amirite?
@BearTheGrudge
@BearTheGrudge 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe people are still out here wearing pants
@wwjd222
@wwjd222 2 жыл бұрын
yup no joke. the "science" has proven they do nothing. and its been a long time since the science said this....
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