seeing some comments for some other chan videos -- what's a great chan video for me to check out?
@angiewebster93515 ай бұрын
This is a recent Insta Live he did after quite a long time. I know it's not an actual Chan's Room episode but It's warm and I think it's obvious that he cares for and missed STAYS as much as we missed him: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqSci4duo8R1q7Msi=cRYUmK8MCabrW903
@МаняТрусова-с6п5 ай бұрын
There is this long video compilation of chans room. Maybe you will get a better understanding of him by this video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oKHZh5qrba5oiJIsi=fy5MFTk44Ooe0hwo
@kanli4835 ай бұрын
His childishness and playfulness can be seen when he is with the hyungs. There's an episode on channel “117” with Young K. It would be great to see your analysis❤ kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZWboYdvft2HnNksi=PCyI1FfGBxrV75GP
@nnennaokoye40805 ай бұрын
Definitely the interview he recently did with a Day 6 member, he come across as more himself in that interview for sure. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZWboYdvft2HnNksi=_LaooSiwOHPSo2tx
@cecidemo5 ай бұрын
chan’s room ep100- a CLASSIC!! chan hanging with his bff’s and joking around. you can’t call yourself a hard stay without having seen this one. the original live is about 2hrs, this is a 24min edit- kzbin.info/www/bejne/mJi8e4GPhMaqf8Usi=7qtkHpZ7A3-6Rp4R
@deezach94045 ай бұрын
Likes to tease? Mans roleplaying a relationship on bubble on the regular.
@MaeMae-iris955 ай бұрын
then tell US to touch grass
@Pushi_975 ай бұрын
The chan lore goes so deep, there is no way a compilation like this is going to do him justice.
@annaotaht5 ай бұрын
so true, watching the survival show made me understand him so much more
@annaotaht5 ай бұрын
these were just kind of funny clips of him
@deezach94045 ай бұрын
All jokes aside, he's so focused on appearing how you want him to be. Like, playing your boyfriend through bubble, being stern when stay acts up, but if you watch him, you see glimpses of who he is.
@elenymm5 ай бұрын
That makes me sad. He should focus on being who he wants to be.
@deezach94045 ай бұрын
@@elenymm he's starting to now, i think? As his confidence builds, we see more of who he is
@MakeGoodTrouble5 ай бұрын
Yeah, I don't get this feeling AT ALL. He's one of the members who's been the most open about who he is and what his feelings are. The fact that he put himself out there for roughly an hour (or more) every week - good, bad, sad, happy and more - for 208 episodes, is not the behavior of someone who is closed off or unable to be themselves. Not sure where y'all are getting this idea from but if you've watched a lot of Chan's Room episodes along with other content, to me, there's no way to think this man is "closed off."
@deezach94045 ай бұрын
@@MakeGoodTrouble i didnt say he was unable to be himself, i said he's careful of what he shows.
@elenymm5 ай бұрын
@@MakeGoodTrouble he shared a lot and got burned, but someone can hide in plain sight. I think that is what he is doing. And it isn't intentional.
@skijigi1235 ай бұрын
Chan is a really difficult person to understand. And I don't mean it in a bad way. I'm just saying that he built this personality by going through a lot of hardships. He's a kid without childhood, who left his home at a very young age. I believe he had this thought that he can rely only on himself, he built the walls around himself, to not get hurt. We can clearly see it in the survival show. Pre debut Chan was much harsher than we see him now. He found his members who showed him that he's not alone and that he can rely on them too...and that's when he started to loosen up a little by little. Sometimes when we see him acting all cute and childish, i think it's just him finally catching up on his teen years, he just wanna have fun and don't care about the consequences. Speaking of consequences. Chan definitely might seem to be over positive sometimes not fully genuine, because he wants to be seemed as a "perfect" person. Which is completely impossible and really draining. He wants this perfect image because for whatever reason ppl are constantly looking for things to drag him for. Ppl want to hate him so much and i don't understand why. His words and actions get analyzed under a microscope....ppl don't let him BREATHE. They are always on his throat. Ready to jump on him for the smallest mistake. His words often get twisted or taken out of context which causes him a lot of trouble. One of such things happened last year, and we have not had Chan's room ever since. So he's trying to be as perfect and careful as possible to not hurt anyone, to not cause trouble. Of course he's not afraid to set the boundaries, which is very necessary in their case, but he does it in the most polite form possible. There's so much more things to his personality, but it's only possible to understand by watching him for a long time... In general i think hes a great person, well-mannered, kind, thoughtful, caring. He's super supportive of others, if you ask anyone who worked with skz, you'll always hear ppl praising and admiring him. Yes he's not perfect as he wants to be seen. But no one is perfect. And definitely no one deserves the hate he gets.
@KenyanOtaku5 ай бұрын
I genuinely don't understand why some people have a hate boner for him 😑
@chrispyairfriedhyunjin29315 ай бұрын
I’d say as a stay, it’s best to go into Chans rooms compilations that have something to do with comfort/advice in the title. This seems to be more of an “iconic moments” thing, not great for analysis of his personality
@maelisols5 ай бұрын
yes!!!!
@aur1_5 ай бұрын
This .
@ugoclaire11985 ай бұрын
Facts🙂↕️
@hex__x0x5 ай бұрын
No one really knows the personality of chan. I've always believed that he built this overly positive personality to deal with the colossal responsibility and stress on his back. Among the members, I'd say he's the best at hiding his true personality (at least in front of the fans & media). There are 2 cues that can help you know him better: CUE 1: in an iconic interview last year (totally recommend it) he talks about the idea of quitting passing through his head at some point in the past and why + felix talking about how they were all scared of him. (Video title: Stray Kids' Bang Chan and Felix Catch Up with Eric Nam) CUE 2: in an extreme rarity for his appearances, he broke down in one moment in their concert final words when he was explaining how hard it was for him (video 1 title: Straykids crying - Try not to cry Concert ver. | SKZ 2nd World Tour. Video 2 title: STAY with SKZ 💚나의 사랑, 나의 자랑, 나의 자부심 MANIAC in Seoul (Eng Sub)
@maxpbeaumont5 ай бұрын
Appreciate the recommendations! I think “overly positive” is a good way of describing how I feel about his personality at times.
@67y3j3fv2wg2 ай бұрын
When I first got into Stray Kids I used to worry a lot about Chan's smile. I felt that sometimes it didn't reach his eyes. He seemed sad. I also viewed Chan's Room as his way to self-heal and I could see when the episodes started getting claustrophobic for him - this happened as Stray Kids became more famous. Eventhough I never missed an episode, I was very glad when he eventually stopped doing Chan's Room. It was no longer making him happy, his power and fame seemed to have caught him off guard. Ps. I love him a lot and want him to be happy
@undercover_idiot5 ай бұрын
9:30 About the trying thing, yes he has mentioned that he used to have anger issues and suffered severe depression, so he intentionally opposes those traits by choosing to be a more positive and considerate person. He has gotten a lot of backlash for it too, with some people calling him a geezer 😂 but I think there's something to be said about that in itself. When we try to be a certain way we eventually make that our reality. In general though, he's a pretty genuine person, several people that have met him or worked with him can attest to that. Goofiness aside lol
@hyunis.ny_5 ай бұрын
Chan's room is just so perfect 💞 This compilation is more to the funny side, it would be better a more deep advices one, he's so honest with all and that's why we love him 💞
@lorenlane13195 ай бұрын
❤️❤️❤️
@M-yx3nh5 ай бұрын
Im glad to see a normal comment, not drama by assuming things about him just because they want to project their frustrations with the fandom or take the opportunity to say controversial things that they have no idea about. Chan'sroom, like any other idol's Live, is mainly content for fans, just like BB. But even so, doing Lives is something that idols can do whenever they feel like it, and they are not forced to say anything they don't want to in BB. So the fact that he created Chan'sroom was because he just felt good doing it and being more himself with Stay. In fact Stays always told him to do it whenever he wanted, just like thousand occasions that the most important thing for us is how he feels, and in fact ppl sent him a book with Stays messages of appreciation and gratitude. For this and more things he simply feels grateful, and some people should accept the way he wants to treat and joke with the fandom. Like, people assuming he forces himself or some things and is not an honest part about him...Obviously he also has to protect himself from the haters who want to misunderstand him and make up lies to cause problems, especially since the popularity of the group increased so much in such a short time. But he has always managed to express himself very closely on BB when there was no Chan'sroom.
@setayeshisnothere5 ай бұрын
Omg I've been waiting for this I personally think that he has deep desires to please people bc he thinks they will only keep him if he is helpful and valuable for them this made him have a facade and every now and then we got to see glimpses of him in chans room and i cherished them all And i think that's why he tends to be flirty too he craves real connection
@maxpbeaumont5 ай бұрын
interesting. I can see that.
@elenymm5 ай бұрын
The irony is that I've seen some stay say they feel disconnected from him when he goes with flirting too much. I wish he knew that it isn't necessary. He can just talk. Those moments of Chan's room where he would just talk, about something that happened to him or the music he has been working on always struck me as the most genuine and precious.
@setayeshisnothere5 ай бұрын
@elekimin me too i love him when he is just channie it breaks my heart stay mostly associate him with being a "good leader" or "the sexy, flirty member" and he is but i just think that we rarely appreciate him for who he REALLY is not the things he does for people He realy tries all of the boys do but if he's not the "sexy leader" he's kinda ignored or at least that's what i think
@ellie77015 ай бұрын
He's made some comments lately that had me thinking, "I really hope he knows he's more than just his body." The algorithm and general media is so fast-paced. I'm sure there's so many real conversations stays would love to have and share deeper appreciations he'll never get to hear. Bit of a shame to think the most he might see on a daily basis is the latest viral tweet about his abs. C'est la vie.
@susannasternberg54745 ай бұрын
This! I think in 7 years of training with monthly performance evaluations and friends debuting around him he couldn’t build self confidence and self esteem. He needs to feel unconditionally loved to grow and mature this part of his personality.
@mayzaiz5 ай бұрын
Chan can definitely set boundaries with fans. Like on bubble when he said he'd go live for the first time in a long while he kept seeing people say "stop lying"/"stop teasing us" He replied saying "I know I joke around a lot… But doesn’t joking around about something like this just make me a trash person..? Haha I know me going live means a lot to you… so me joking/teasing about something like this just crosses the line…" (that was his exact message) I feel like he's not always straightforward, but he can definitely get across a point I also think (from what we see atleast) Chan does have that "childness" in his personality. Considering he's basically been working up his career in such a harsh industry since he was 13, he obviously lost that time to be a child. He's said things like "maybe I should have plaued more when I was kid" which makes me think like this These are just my assumptions though, since I clearly don't know him myself 😭
@gurleeeen53285 ай бұрын
no i defo get where ur coming from bc ive noticed this asw, i feel like he's really just a child who had to grow up too quickly and alone. which may be why he sort of gives stay what they want? like fake flirting and he also mentioned not wanting to raise stays expectations before they release new albums. almost like craving validation from his fans but at the same time him and the kids do what they want yk their songs have their own genre and the lyrics are bold so idk ig its more being careful with his idol image. he knows how toxic things can get first with woojin then hyunjin even now there are always controversies in the community, sad really
@mayzaiz5 ай бұрын
@@gurleeeen5328 Yeah it's such a hard industry to practically grow up in and he's shown the affect that it's had on him through songs like social path. It rlly is sad knowing
@gurleeeen53285 ай бұрын
@@mayzaiz yeaa 'gave up my youth for my future' says it all
@AliceBunny055 ай бұрын
I think chan is fine with setting boundaries when lines are crossed, unfortunately I just think a lot of stays dont care or are oblivious and not even introspective enough to realize hes talking about them when hes addressing fans or showing that hes annoyed by something.
@elle39044 ай бұрын
I read few comments below, but I have to disagree for many. If you're attentive enough, you can easily read how Chan is in real life. He is kindhearted, he loves peace, he wants everyone to respect each other to the point where you won't found any unhappy place. Chan isn't confident enough with his talent but he always tries to make things right, and that also made him far for being arrogant and pretentious. Chan wanted to be seen but he want it came genuinely and not forced. He want us to appreciate his effort but he would brush it off whenever people demining him. He can settle for less as an individual but not when it's about a teamwork. Chan wants to make an effort to be included with people around him, but I guess long time friends knows him the best and he don't know what to respond if a person won't return the same energy as his. Chan is not a boomer, he's just a modern guy who was raise with perfect manner. He tries not to be unnecessarily savage just to fit in because he's afraid if people misunderstood his jokes. Chan is that guy, he may-be cringe for some but for me he is just too kind to the point that you curling up your toes probably because you never meet people as kind as him who use different kind of words. If you think Chan is cringey, try to watch other idol. Being too kind is dangerous for some but Chan will overcome it because he has something that most of people don't. Chan is somehow a people pleaser but I'm not afraid for the possibility of him losing his grounds. He know what is his boundary that's why he call ungrateful people out occasionally because not everyone have the healthy mindset. I don't get why some people think that Chan scold them i mean, touch some grass please? He loves to joke because millions of his fans loves joking as well. And not every fangirl as delulu as half of quarter of Stays. After all, Chan is normal guy as well. He wanted to be seen as a guy, I don't have problems with gays but Chan is straight up the straightest guy in his group. The image he has shown is obviously part of his work, Koreans loves aegyeo and Chan is born from Korean parents and lives in Korea as an idol trainee ever since he moved from Sydney. He's grew up with kpop industry as his home since he was 13, he never had a chance to live in Korea with a family as a normal kid or student. If you're not used to guy who doesn't do aegyeo, well he can't fix all of your problems. *'you' is referring to us."
@b1ancaas5 ай бұрын
oh BTW. if you think he’s TRYING to be a certain way is probably because he is. they have to walk on eggshells all the time or else they could get canceled by haters. so he can’t always speak his mind and if he talks about something serious he backs off so he won’t get hated. he got hated bc he spoke his mind once, in a very respectful and careful way and the outcome? no more chans room.
@Dawn_Epiphany5 ай бұрын
“Performative” can have a negative connotation. I think Chan really does have a goofy, playful, bubbly side and he’s a total nerd (I say positively) about video games and music. I don’t think he’s trying to perform for anyone, he just likes to tease his members. He has a heart of gold. Sometimes he seems really lonely. I think we should avoid judgments when trying to understand him.
@patriplaymobil5 ай бұрын
Chan's always super aware, and always tries to be correct, to be what people expect him to be... at least that's how I see it. But he's a beautiful person that just is too used to grinding, the power of the industry _I guess_
@StayWildflower5 ай бұрын
The comment about walls and vulnerability makes sense.. there are a select few who will try to take a mile when he allows an inch toward vulnerability. He's a sweet guy, and people take it for granted.
@thylionheart5 ай бұрын
One of my favorite things, as a neurodivergent STAY, about Chan’s Room is how there were so many times where watching it helped me unmask. Like, Chan will sometimes stim both physically and vocally, and it prompts me to start stimming, and soon enough all the tension would leave my body and I would feel so at peace. (I’m not saying Chan is neurodivergent, idk if he is or not, neurotypical people can stim too-just saying that his stimming makes me feel free and safe to stim after long days of having to mask, + him openly stimming helps to normalize and destigmatize stimming, which makes me happy)
@mandymonster2 ай бұрын
Actually, you make a FANTASTIC point about this! (So for context, I have a degree in Behavioral Science) One of the biggest masking examples for certain disorders, like ADHD/ADD for example, is perfectionism. Other masking examples are: being overly cautious with what they say and being more quiet, reacting as what other people expect rather than how you want to react, acting 'fine' when struggling, and overcompensating at work or school. There are many other ways to mask, but these are the one's I've noticed with Chan the most. He is a perfectionist and has admitted that he's struggled with insomnia and depression before. Two other things that are common with undiagnosed ADHD. (Side note: I'm not diagnosing him, just using an example of how he may be neurodivergent.)
@angelesgutierrez70205 ай бұрын
I always felt that Chan's Room was his safe place, just a moment for him and his fans. He is very (extremely) self-conscious and insecure, sometimes he seems to need that "Oh I'm famous,.loved and respected" moment, even if it's just a joke or a pick-up line❤
@tapioooca51825 ай бұрын
also max, just today chan and han were guests on a variety show, it was the first time they met the host properly and guess what he said about chan 😂 "ah chan is really kind! i can see why he's doing all that with a smile on his face. it's because he's a leader and doesn't want the members to feel bad. that's why he speaks nicely with a smile!" it was impressive that he got that in a very short time after meeting chan. ngl, sometimes the members can be really dismissive towards him, for someone like him it must make him feel really unwanted and hurt but he always takes it lightheartedly and turns it into a silly moment. those instances make me kinda sad.
@Dawn_Epiphany5 ай бұрын
Yea, Max should watch that show because Jaejoong really understood Chan well.
@MaggieGueder5 ай бұрын
Also, lots of times, he is being very careful with his words/reactions and behavior overall, not to be fake... But he is not a normal guy, he is an idol. You know what I mean?
@maxpbeaumont5 ай бұрын
100%. He’s gotta be cautious to a degree. No question. And him being the leader adds a whole other element to it.
@justlivinglife11675 ай бұрын
Yea i notice that too. Its hard to explain cause hes a very open person generally but at the same time hes someone who chooses his words carefully and thinks a lot before he says something seriously. Its funny cause I literally just watched the interview that came out yesterday where the interviewer was saying the same thing about Chan lol
@Elapho23_035 ай бұрын
I personally think that chan has genuine fun with many of these things and is not always putting something on. I believe he likes acting nerdy and cheesy. Some call him cringe (in a bad way) just because he often does things that are very genuine and real. Although, of course, there are probably many times when he wants to show a fun, good side, I think he has genuine fun with stays many times and also likes to get his childish side out. And he knows when to speak up, we know many occasions when he put someone disrespectful in their place or shut down something that was false.
@n2sunset5 ай бұрын
I think part of his reticence sometimes is because he’s been in the k-pop industry for half his life and is well aware of how far he can go before the company has an issue. And, as leader, I think he’s hyper aware of not wanting the group to get embroiled in the kind of 💩some k - pop netizens are so quick to cause. His love for and devotion to Stray Kids is powerful
@8nana85 ай бұрын
12:03 I remember I h8ted that comment so much because Chan always makes sure to translate what he's saying for everyone to understan and he doesn't have to, and I loved Chan kept speaking korean for the rest of the episode after that comment haha
@BumhunterLino5 ай бұрын
Chan 100% will put us in our place, and has several times. Chan has bared his soul on Channie's room, and it's come back to bite him in the ass on several occasions. Anti's will do anything they can to try and bring him down, and they have on several occasions.
@biancalutz8195 ай бұрын
well, i kinda agree with you. see, chan was very young when he joined jype as a trainee, and he's always been the youngest there, hence this "goofier" side of him; meanwhile, he had this great responsibility which was to create a group and lead them. I think that, just like many other idols, he had to grow up very fast and I believe that it was a huge difference. He's super aware of this, and also of the burdens and his responsibilities as the leader, creator, producer, and etcetera from this big, respected group. I often find him trying to please, too, but i think that that's one of the main reasons why he's my bias. I can see myself in him, and even tho he may not be 100% himself, I still find him truly and deeply genuine, and it's SO refreshing. He's amazing, and i sometimes feel sorry for him, ngl, just like i feel sorry for myself, but just like you said, i cheer for him the most. He's great, genious and super kind. I hope you can see this side of him and understand him like i do.
@ykook70005 ай бұрын
Its the example of a person stuck in the middle of 2 cultures The polite conversative korean side...toeing the company line And the more carefree relaxed cheeky Australian side..which is more the real him ...IMO
@paulacotton56035 ай бұрын
I feel like Chan’s resistance to being open is tied to his role as leader. He wears the responsibility for the group 24/7. He personally chose each of these boys to put in the spotlight, and I think he worries about doing something that threatens their success.
@L.B.5.4.5 ай бұрын
I agreed with you. I love Chan, but I do think he's a bit performative at times. Not in a bad way, but in a way that he desires to please his audience. He likes to tease and banter and he will give sweet advice and comfort. I think he's genuine but he also keeps a part of himself locked inside...? If that's the right expression.
@LeeknowDefender5 ай бұрын
I definitely understand what you said at the end! "His kid wanting to come out" I feel that bangchan feels this the most out of everyone else in the group as he trained for 7 long years and actually talked about feeling pretty scared and worried when he first left his family in Australia to go to South Korea before. He was extremely young and had no clue if he was going to make it at all. He explained how he felt when all his friends either debuted before him or just didnt make it. He definitely never had the opportunity to fully embrace his childhood as he was immediately thrown into responsibility and pressure. This is probably why you can see Bangchan's inner child and responsibility as an aware leader fighting to come out whenever he's in a professional environment VS just Chan's room!
@tjo19945 ай бұрын
Chan has openly admitted that Felix is his safe place where he can truly be vulnerable. He often says he needs to be strong for the Kids and Stay.
@Case_Basket5 ай бұрын
I agree with your intro, I feel like Kpop is really a hobby if anything and it can lead you have an online community as well as a physical one, especially if you meet people at concerts, events, etc. It was nice to hear that bit of a step back from you and I hope youre feeling bit less lost today or whenever. I'm a Stay and I've found myself having fun, learning, and growing as a person just by watching these artists that i really like talking or interacting with each other. Your videos also help with that too of course as I try to learn about myself too ❤ I see myself in Chan a lot actually. I dont mean to assume anything but Chan gives me the vibes of someone who grew up a bit too fast, someone who learned to internalize and yet doesnt outwardly show that. He seems fine at first glance, great even. But he'd very rarely let you see deeper than that. In the past he seemed a bit like a people pleaser or just an overwhelmingly "happy" person. He was other people's light (like Changbin's song Streetlight). He also seemed to push back whenever he was either complimented or asked about his actual state (by members or Stay) Recently, he's been focusing on himself more and does seem more open; sometimes quiet but somehow still goofy. His laid back happy moments seem more genuine as a result. I'm glad about that actually, its nice to see. It might be because he stopped Chan's room but he still interacts with us on Bubble. He recently had a live, not a Chan's room, amd the change was apparent. Loved the video and sorry for the essay 😂❤
@beverlygranandos81355 ай бұрын
Chan is, at the end of the day, just a guy. And I say this with all the love in the world! But he puts this image forward of a very I guess “perfect” guy and he tries to hide his flaws often. So when that image of him is all we know when we actually start to get to know him as a person it feels weird lol. He has contradictions like everyone else. He’s serious and silly, he’s cool and nerdy, he’s talkative but he’s quiet. And accepting him as a whole instead of the image he puts out is tough for some people. At his core, he still has some tendencies from when he was in “survival mode” and it felt like the fate of the world rested on his shoulders. But he’s also a kid who grew up too fast. I suggest listening to Social Path by skz because it tells his story quite well ♥️ Thanks for the video Max!!
@tapioooca51825 ай бұрын
i see what you're trying to say but also, what kind of imperfection could he have shown us? we know more of his imperfections than we do of the other members because he did actually let us see quite a lot. we know his insecurities, how strict he was, his passive-aggressive side etc. doesn't us knowing these mean he didn't put on a mask of a perfect person?
@icarusfalls67175 ай бұрын
I dont agree with you on this because he’s the one who talks about his insecurities and flaws the most he told us a lot of the things he hates, likes and more. Ofc he will not show his 100% nobody does that even us non ordinary people we don’t share everything.
@beverlygranandos81355 ай бұрын
@@tapioooca5182 yeah I understand what your saying and I agree. You can tell by how I worded it that perfect is not the right word for it. I also forgot to mention that fact that I think he pushed this image in the beginning and over time has been much more open. It’s hard to put it into words but it’s not a “perfect person” image but more like an image of a super strong leader and then over time the kids showed him that it’s okay to rely on others and be vulnerable and all that. So if you only know him when he is doing interviews and in a work “leader mode” mindset I think it can be weird for you to see a much more real side to him (like max saying he still doesn’t really understand him). That’s what I meant I guess?
@beverlygranandos81355 ай бұрын
@@icarusfalls6717 oh yeah Chan is a very genuine and real person, especially with stays. I didn’t mean to suggest otherwise. I just meant that (especially in the beginning and a lil less now) there is a specific image that he would try to put out. A “perfect guy with no flaws” is honestly not the best way to put it and it’s not really what I meant sorry. And I super agree with you that no one shows 100% but I also do think that Chan is the type to be aware of the image he puts out and what people want from him
@icarusfalls67175 ай бұрын
@@beverlygranandos8135 definitely i agree i think he cares about the image of the group and he’s carful to protect it
@qingsapphic5 ай бұрын
Chan, to me, is a very unique and wonderful human being who has been subject to situations I would not wish upon my worst enemy. As a stay since pre-debut, I think Chan is a funny and goofy guy who is also is not afraid to be serious and put boundaries down when needed. I also think he cares very deeply about others -- and what they think of him. Unfortunately, Chan is also often subjected to an intense level of hate online. I couldn't honestly tell you why such a large population of people have chosen him as their personal punching bag, but often times clips from Chan's Room or messages from the idol messaging app Bubble are shared en masse by people who love spreading hate and vitriol against him. I think partially due to this is why it may seem on occasion that he is acting a certain way or "trying to be nice/polite/respectful." I feel that he knows that every single word and action of his will be picked apart and has to choose his actions carefully, even in a space that is meant to be for spending time with Stay, like Chan's Room. Of course, all idols are subjected to high levels of surveillance and scrutiny, but to me it feels like Chan has to really be careful about how much of himself he shows. You mentioned something about his "youthfulness" and how there's sort of a kid in him that wants to come out, and how that was stripped away from him by taking on so much as such a young age. You're right on with that observation. He had to grow up very very quickly, but it's very sweet when he's able to show his childish side with his members or to Stay. Unfortunately, like I mentioned before, his actions get picked apart online and many people find him "cringe" or "annoying" whenever he shows those sides of himself. That being said, I'm get what you mean about not really being able to *get* Chan just based off these quick clips! It's definitely more of a funny moments compilation vibe than a good opportunity to see his true personality. Thank you for still working with the content and yes, we're all cheering for him too!
@Niki_dontleeknow5 ай бұрын
This is the man that asked “what are we?” On bubble yesterday. And today he invited stays for dinner, then says he’s taking a bath and we’re not invited anymore. Or some days ago he said he would send a “beefy” picture and then sent a picture of a steak. Or at I-days he pretended to jump on the crowd during Super Bowl. Yeah, he likes teasing and flirting a lot.
@gooeybutnottogooey5 ай бұрын
I'm a newer STAY and wouldn't dream of thinking I even begin to understand Chan but he seems to be a remarkable person, from what I've seen. What he's been through, just what we know of even. He always seemed to let go a bit in Chans Room (and he gave the best online hugs,) but he has been in this industry more than half his life and I would think by now he is pretty good at knowing how to act and what to say. He seems fearless, but as you said, he could be holding a lot back. Maybe he really would like to let loose more but the risks are pretty high. Remember, in the end, fans hold all the power. I can't imagine navigating that.
@cherryfee2215 ай бұрын
12:20 he did fully commit here and set a boundary because for the rest of that live he only spoke korean, no more english because of that comment. If he sets the boundries he may laugh to make it not that harsh but the does still commit to them :)
@pourthebubbly5 ай бұрын
I think a lot of what Chan holds back is because idols can get into "scandals" so easily. I mean, he stopped doing Chan's Room entirely because people attacked him for something he said. So there's definitely a practical reason not to be 100% real.
@suemedeirosАй бұрын
Max, the impression I have on Chan is that he is still trying to overcome the stress of his many years of training. Maybe his excessive efforts to please (that make him clearly a bit uneasy) come from the fact that he knew, for many years, that everything he did was being intensely evaluated. This much scrutiny at such a young age must have left deep marks . I like him, a lot. In a completely different way, I was forced to grow up too early as well. My mom had cancer when I was 16, and I had, as the oldest daughter, to take over most chores in the house. I was not ready for that, and after my mom died, when I was 21, I had a long journey to come back to my young self, to convince myself I did not have to be a surrogate mom all the time. I guess he is on his own journey right now, and I wish him all the best. Much love to him and to you.
@NatEnjoysFanlife5 ай бұрын
I'd personally say that his dorkiness and immediate self-cringe (and shyness) after some of the things he says are as much genuine as his more laid-back flirty or naggy side. Chan was raised (as a trainee) pretty strictly when it comes to politeness and has two younger siblings at home, but as a trainee, he was the youngest for a very long time, so you can see that more playful and adorable side as well if he's comfortable. I agree that he's trying to be "nice" in a way that his affection is usually more naggy and teasing and he holds that back a lot and also the cussing and not-family friendly stuff, of course, and I'm pretty sure he's someone who often keeps his smile in place by habit even if he's upset. BUT I really don't think he's genuine as rarely as you make him out to be, it's just that you haven't gotten used to his duality yet or his difference in behavior when it comes to certain spaces, one of them being Chan's Room. The compilations were really a bit fast and less serious conversations or just him vibing, but he tends to treat the fandom very familiar, makes fun of us, comforts us, flirts with us, tells us about his worries (he legit texted in the middle of the night recently when he had trouble sleeping), and scolds us seriously when the fandom has behaved very off, which has happened a few times. I know it's probably because you've not seen a lot of clips of him in his natural environment, but I also wanna point out that a lot of his behavior with the other members in the behind the scenes has that duality, and he literally sees them as his family, so I'd say there is a lot of genuineness in that
@KGW-vh1kc5 ай бұрын
Thanks for your video! Chan can definitely set boundaries with fans! You commented on the time when someone asked him to stop speaking Korean - prior to that comment he had been speaking in a mix of English and Korean. After that comment, he spent the whole rest of the live (maybe around 40-45 minutes) speaking just in Korean, which was really unusual, so we could tell he did that because of the comment. Normally he would always switch back and translate things he'd been saying, but after that he purposely didn't. He's also told off stay for lots of other things, including nagging at him, or protesting about things they shouldn't. Out of all the kids, he's actually the one who's pushed back to fans the most I think when people have crossed the line. Yeah, unfortunately I don't think these little clips give you a good picture of him as it's hard to get the context of each moment. He's normally very chill, relaxed and open - he's actually probably one of the most open with fans than any of the other stray kids. He's talked about his dark times when he thought he might not even be on planet earth were it not for being in stray kids, he's talked about his health issues, his hair thinning/loss, his stress, supporting his family financially etc. He's also copped a lot of hate from random online kpop fans and also found himself in frustrating scandals due to no fault of his own, but he also has so much softness and kindness and playfulness to him. He's really worth learning more about! I recommend the recent 30 min interview with Young K from Day 6! Thanks Max! 😊
@dafirey15 ай бұрын
If you wish to see more signs of the inner Chan, look for Chan's room #199 ( with Han - his first kid and Lee know - who always makes him laugh). There are some decently translated versions out there in KZbin land. Or when the 'end ment ' statements he made after He was virtually alone for 7 years and he reflects on that with Stay during the first concert in Seoul after Covid restrictions were eased. The Beyond Live broadcast had translations for English speaking Stay and it broke everyone's heart listening to him but also showed us how much THE members, Staff and Stay mean to him. The vulnerability was strangely beautiful to witness.
@LeeKnow3rdEye5 ай бұрын
I have been in Chans room where he has really scolded Stays. Stays would nag sometimes or he would see stuff on line and put us in our place. Most of the Chans room he would talk music, make music and just talk to Stay. It’s gone because Stays crossed the line and got him in trouble. Hopefully one day we will get Chans room
@M-yx3nh5 ай бұрын
He only scolded the fandom once and it was during the Maniac era because Hyunjin's stans as always sent massive complaints to JYPE. That happened when he told about bugs in his hotel bed. And when he saw all the hateful protests, got confused and believed they were about the bugs. Other things were things taken out of context, and lies. He never got in trouble because of the fandom. Don't spread misinformation. It all started because haters and other fandom take advantage of what he said, and shared a screenshot of 1 random multistan troll (who is know for making fun of Chan on Twitter, NOT STAY) who was just gossiping on her tik tok account with OTHER fandoms about one group that ALL okpop stans were ALWAYS gossiping about for years, accusing them when they had some opportunity, even if it's not about their idols. But their fans decided to give visibility on social media for the first time on purpose, because that person had an image of I.N on their profile at that time, that's was a perfect excuse to say 'Chan caused his fandom to attack another group' . They spread that lie everywhere, so that caused the Korean fandom of that other group organized a hate campaign in every k forum and SKZ's channel accusing him of being an 'idol's bully'. That's why JYPE decided to ban Chan's room.
@AliceBunny055 ай бұрын
@@M-yx3nhHes only really "scolded" the fandom once but hes definitely had moments where it was clear he was disapproving/annoying or being serious about something. Like when ppl were saying his song hate to admit was about woojin and he told us on live that its not about who people are saying its about and not to send him hate, or when he got annoyed about someone telling him not to speak in korean and another fan asking him to speak in english and he said I can do whatever I want and if you dont like it you can leave, he was clearly bothered. all im saying is it was never going to last forever, for what it was it went on for a really long time and it was only a matter of how long it would take before something he said got twisted or turned into an issue. plus its not as if stays have never taken somethings hes said on live and ran with it to create their own agenda or cause drama, again back to woojin where he had to address it AGAIN about a seperate issue because stays were causing problems and sending him hate, forcing chan to address a situation with a person hes not even allowed to say the name of.
@M-yx3nh5 ай бұрын
@@AliceBunny05 I never denied those moments existed. And it's the most normal thing that among thousands of fans there are always random people commenting nonsense...Chan, like any other idol is aware of this, so it's not like he judged and hated us because of that. That's Stay's unhealthy obsession wanting to force how he feels. And of course...Always comparing every issue with Woojin case to give as a 'fact' that 'the fandom is always to blame for something that anyone accuses us of'. To begin with, he never said 'don't send hate to him'. Chan cannot express himself about a former JYPE member who leave in strange circumstances and without expressing the reason why he left since they are very strict about it...Then it's ridiculous that a millionaire company is going to be aware of a few pixels who hate Woojin or continue to express in a corner of the internet what they think of him, when he even wasn't part of their agency, and trying to take Chan'sroom down because of that...Stays didn't needed to misunderstand some words from Chan to hate on woojin. And if he didn't expressed anything problematic against anyone he never had to be called out. This case about 'the greetings' was the only time that Chan said something that got him in trouble, and I am one of those people who think that it's better for him to refrain from expressing certain things from now on, but not because of 'Stays' if not because there are people who are willing to attack him at any moment. And i have my reasons to feel resentment for a large part of the fandom. But that doesn't make me to blame them of everything, because telling the truth is important for the group and to defend Chan. Because lies and witch hunt against Stays in fact has caused hatred and attacks towards them to increase.
@verginialouis89865 ай бұрын
0:45 sorry to hear that and I’m glad that you felt comfortable sharing that with us. Hope you’re days continue well
@jenniferhearn41175 ай бұрын
Out of all of Straykids l have the most admiration for BangChan while the others had the support of their families close in Korea he was on his own from an early age dealing between two cultures and also Felix to a lesser extent but l find that he has the warmest heart impeccable manners when dealing with people even staff at venues he plays at going around thanking everyone and a genuine interest and love for Stay and his Kids.
@ЕленаКузнецова-ш3й6г5 ай бұрын
Chan has a huge heart and a gentle character, but also a huge responsibility. This is where this dissonance in behavior comes from.It's very difficult to deal with all this at such a young age as Chan had to. He is my hero!❤
@MiasInAction15 ай бұрын
regarding chans inner child/ child like behavior lmao i think a lot of people forget that chan never really got to experience his teens/ young adult life like a normal person. he moved from Australia at around 14 by himself and was a trainee for 7 years. that alone is crazy and idk how he did it lol but he's talked about how that was a very dark and difficult time in his life bc he kept seeing people come and go and debut before him without him ever knowing if he was going to make it. he's even touched on how he got to the point where he didn't want to get close to anyone else bc of the fear they were going to leave him too. then when he finally debuted he had the responsibility as the leader on his shoulders and skz has been through so much over the years which couldn't have been easy on him, so he had to grow up so fast and never fully got to be a kid. i love seeing his inner child bc to me it seems likes his comfortable when he's like that and the walls arent fully up
@KenyanOtaku5 ай бұрын
Right on the mark ‼️
@aracy1755 ай бұрын
We must consider that most stays are young, like teenagers, so he cannot say certain things, besides there are many rules, agreements he must respect (jyp, contracts, terms etc), i dont think is just about he performaning in order to be accepted. Clearly he is shy and it must be difficult for him to be so responsable at such a young age. Anyway, i think he is such a great producer and artist.
@lovebug11165 ай бұрын
Thank you for your words in the beginning of the video, Max! We all truly are in this together; keep calm and carry on🌟
@tapioooca51825 ай бұрын
chan is the most interesting to observe that's for sure. he is the one member who showed us his human side the most. the others are more the book definition of idols. you not vibing with him much is because you kinda always assumed he is fake. a fake person wouldn't show his vulnerable sides as much as chan does. or he wouldn't be strict when fans cross the line despite knowing he'll get backlash. most of his actions/words are calculated that's for sure. they have to be. about boundaries, knowing his complexes that he talked about and not knowing who he spends his time with in his free time is the perfect boundary for me. he keeps his social life private while lets us see him as a human and not a idol-robot.
@bangky51735 ай бұрын
yeah i think you got it when you said that chan tends to be performative in the way he acts bc of his hyper awareness and i definitely believe it was a mechanism he picked up from being misunderstood for so long lol...people have been taking every single word that comes out of his mouth out of context for years on end, so he learned how to calculate how he comes across as if to try to manage the outcome of everything (trivia: chan is a bit of a control freak). i feel like this is really relatable to me and other people who are neurodivergent, tbh...the whole "always being taken out of context" thing...
@undercover_idiot5 ай бұрын
9:50 On the nose with the 'youthfulness' thing too. He has mentioned (especially recently) how he regrets not enjoying his childhood and maturing too quickly. I think he does try to capture his more childlike energy now, even going as far as to say he is reclaiming is youth. He is also used to working around people that are older than him so he does have a sort of maknae vibe.
@chronologosaurus5 ай бұрын
I think it makes sense that Chan is aware of how people perceive him- he was training to be an idol for 7 years from a very young age so a lot of his growing up was in an environment where he was constantly under scrutiny. He was also the youngest for a very long time as he lived in the trainee dorms with older trainee boys. Watching him interact with YoungK (Brian) and some of the other boys he used to live with has given me the impression that, as the leader of his group, he feels kind of responsible for their group appearance? Whereas when he’s with YoungK he is a bit more playful and relaxed, similar to how he is in Chan’s room. He has a similar vibe in the behind the scenes shots in Talker videos when he’s with the other members but not onstage or “on camera” in a formal setting, when the other members are sort of taking on the role of interacting with the camera or each other so Chan doesn’t have to be directly involved. Just my thoughts!!
@ekk800115 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video! However, the compilation you chose to react to is quite unusual, I feel like they don't do him justice. Chan's Room offers much more. While he's often goofy and funny during his live streams, it's also where he shows his most vulnerable side. He engages in honest conversations about everyday issues and shares passionate insights into the music-making process. For future reactions, I recommend exploring other videos, such as compilations of his inspiring and comforting words, or edited versions of full episodes. For instance, "Three Men in Colorful Pants" is an edited version of episode 100.
@anothercapriccio52295 ай бұрын
The way you reflected all these observations back to yourself ...there is so much strength and courage in that... I also realized that things that I "cringe" about in others are usually things that have been a part of myself in some way and I guess, it is this reflection that makes us sometimes feel a bit uncomfortable or like... there is this frequency that we do not particulary enjoy to hear because it sounds like us in some ways. I think being a leader and taking up so much responsibility and pressure, I believe there is always this price to pay, that you have to watch over others and that is when you start prioritizing the others more than yourself which can maybe lead to forgetting about to how to be comfortable and at ease in your own skin, because you are constantly watching over and taking care of everyone else, so the "you" gets neclected.
@traceyandrob135 ай бұрын
As Australia when we are kids he is very protective which in as the war because of ANZAC you never leave a mate behind was ingrained in us growing. He gave a speech other people said was cringe but I understood it prefect. We do work but we have fun too.
@roseferrowthorn13575 ай бұрын
for me it almost seems like chan does masking at times I've always wondered if he might be neurodivergent in some way he does A LOT of stimming and there's a lot of stays myself included who are on the spectrum as well of course you never can fully know since we only see what's on screen but it would explain a lot especially the hate he would get for no reason
@Leavemeastray5 ай бұрын
It's interesting you mention this actually. To me, he seemed like someone who might have OCPD, however that's more of a personality disorder than a Neurological one.
@szklover575 ай бұрын
@@Leavemeastray I agree! I have OCPD and he has a lot of the same traits that I have. I have always thought that he had it because I see a lot of myself in him.
@Dawn_Epiphany5 ай бұрын
I definitely see things that I relate to in him as an autistic person. It can make us feel different and lonely. I hope he knows he’s amazing just the way he is!
@k-hoaticbastard7595Ай бұрын
I think it could be totally possible he has OCPD. Especially given the fact that it shares a TON of neurodivergent traits. It could definitely explain his behavior. Such as his perfectionism, his obsession with work, people-pleasing tendencies, overly self-critical, fear of failure.
@pavlova50615 ай бұрын
I really recommend the 1st episode he did with Minho, they have a really interesting dynamic, he also did an episode with YoungK from Day6 which is really endearing and a way to see Chan in a younger brother type role haha.
@skzanarchist5 ай бұрын
honestly a single compilation can't do justice to understanding chan. I think there is room for exploring him more by watching more videos of his live streams that provide context
@idkscb5 ай бұрын
i am really missing chan's room😢 it made sundays just a whole lot better. i understand why he doesnt do it any more but still. and the instagram live we got a few weeks ago, it reminded me of those times
@LeCrunchNoir5 ай бұрын
I'm sorry you were feeling down recently. Just thought I'd let you know that your videos always brighten my day. Your kind words and open attitude are really reassuring in this modern internet world, where everyone can seem filled with hate and the news is overwhelming. Sending you positive vibes
@maxpbeaumont5 ай бұрын
i appreciate that message :)
@thughyung5 ай бұрын
as an old stay ur question of "does he have boundaries with stay?" hit kinda hard because he DEFINITELY has issues with that, moreso years ago than now tho thankfully
@lisa-gentlepaws53835 ай бұрын
Maybe it’s because I’m an older Aussie stay, but Chan’s behaviour makes sense to me. He knows what he’s doing 💥💥💥
@dia990694 ай бұрын
Hi Max, I'd really like to see you react to Chan's interview with his old friend and Day6 member - Young K! It's called "Young K's K Survival Story EP.4 Stray Kids Bangchan" and I think you'd enjoy it! I really think Chan acts the most 'himself' when he's hanging out with his older friends, it tends to bring out more of his childish side and it's personally very nice to see. Love your reactions!
@OhItsNeo5 ай бұрын
I think these videos will give you more into how Chan really is: Chan talks about how Stray Kids saved him during Chan’s room kzbin.info/www/bejne/e5vLi5xng5Z5kLM Bang Chan's comforting speeches and helpful advices pt 1 kzbin.info/www/bejne/o3nbn2aHhryCrtk Bang Chan's comforting speeches and helpful advices pt 2 kzbin.info/www/bejne/qoPHf3l8m8yNhaM Bang Chan's comforting speeches and helpful advices pt 3 kzbin.info/www/bejne/fauagammj95netE Stray Kids comfort words that helped my mental health kzbin.info/www/bejne/Zl63dIFvg8aWbrs Ps. I love your videos and thank you for the comforting words in the beginning of the video. :)
@prmtv5 ай бұрын
These
@sister19765 ай бұрын
Hoping this reaches Max's eyes! I would really like him to react to something more "calm". This compilation was great if you already have the context for the clips, but not optimal for someone trying to get to know Chan 😊❤
@elenapicco14125 ай бұрын
i don’t know if some of the people commenting on here weren’t there when he was doing chan’s room but some of the things i’m reading are a bit misleading, chan has been vulnerable in many occasions ‘in front’ of thousands of fans and he was not afraid of doing so even when he knew those vulnerable moments would be picked apart by haters who would watch clips of his lives just to twist his words and/or mock him, he likes to please his fans but knows when to remind people of his boundaries, chan’s room was the epitome of vulnerability and comfort with a sprinkle of funny moments and pick up lines, and overall proof of his love for music unfortunately it was taken away from him and us because of petty fanwars and it sucks because he basically lost a safe space, he finally went live recently after a whole year and stayville was in shambles lol i hope you’ll check out some more of chan’s room content cause i’m feeling a bit emo about it and so that you can understand his personality a bit better
@katiassek51515 ай бұрын
I think you still grasped a lot of things that he appears to be to us. and just like you, I lately noticed I'm quite similar to him, or mainly the person he seems to be, so I recognize all these defense mechanisms. He's really a goofy guy, who likes to tease a lot, laugh, and there's this responsibility, the image of the leader he has to keep, the workload, the idol image as well, that have effect on him. just to say, I'm not assuming anything, those are only the impressions I had of him, but yeah, Chan is definitely a truly good and genuine person, that has a big heart and so much to give
@uknowtherest1345 ай бұрын
when he became a trainee he was too young compared to the others and also he left his family, friends and all other things in australia. as a kid him being in an industry where he had to prove himself almost most of the time must have caused him not being able to live and enjoy his youth fully, as he slightly mentioned in the intro video of the new album (i'd like to see your insights on this video too). so basically with all these coming together i don't think he has ever totally let himself do or speak whatever he really wants to, not that he doesn't want but he's not used to it. there are times where we see his childish and mischievous side coming out and i think he genuinely wants to enjoy and show this side of him more but probably doesn't find it comfortable as much.. he's a hard one to talk about though, i always feel like i can see what he's going through but can't explain it :d i hope he loves and appreciates himself more and finds comfort in who he is. seeing bang chan happy with himself gives me some kind of relief.
@well41233 ай бұрын
because chan was a trainee since a really young age and for really long, i think he has that idol image internalized, and thats why he often appears a bit "fake", plus he and the members have said he's a huge perfectionist. but when he's playing around with the other members (like in skz code), or often in chans room or vlogs, you see more of his childish and goofy side
@verginialouis89865 ай бұрын
I’ve been waiting for this, bang Chan really shows different sides of himself during chans room that stays really connect with
@maintaingmama5 ай бұрын
Ahh the duality of Bang Chan. You are spot on with the assessment of him struggling between being the leader of a group as well as the producer of said group and being the maknae of his other idol friends. There is this great video of him on the show of someone he grew up with as a trainee. The name of it is escaping me. If I find it, I'll come back and edit this. He turns into a kid. He also trained at an early age, so I think he missed alot of "kid' time. It's always fun to see silly Chan and leader Chan. My favorite is kind Chan. There is new Skz Code, where they have watermelon. It's one of my favorite moments with him. You get the jist of who he is in that one gesture. Edited to add that it was Young K Survival Story.
@chococrunch55 ай бұрын
If you watch some of his sister hannahs live streams it gives you a jist of what chan is like, the bahng family are very real with everyone. They r all very sassy, funny, chill, aussie sarcastic, which is awesome. Chan is honest with stays to an extent of what is reasonable for jyp company. He laughs when nervous/sarcastic/shy kind of thing. Veeeeery caring guy, he has my heart for how much of a great guy he is besides the fact he is very talented
@_viola0012 ай бұрын
when you said that there is a kid in him i remembered him playing a five year old in skz family and sometimes that felt like a escape from his leader and responsible role that he has everyday
@kathleenthomas1525 ай бұрын
I hope you keep getting into more Chan content! He used to rub me the wrong way more because I thought he seemed really performative and maybe inauthentic… I think he IS hyper cautious in these situations like Chan’s room. Some of the compilations that are more candid, where he’s less aware of the camera, show his quiet solidity behind the team. Some of the ‘Chan being a dad’ compilations show that side.
@renreninthehouse3 ай бұрын
Damn do I miss Chan's room... the series were brought to an end by the company due to his words being twisted and used to hate on other idols and chan himself. But it was one of the only times where we could actually see chan lower his guard(while still being his playful self) like, he could talk and talk endlessly about everything and anything, he would listen to the concerns of people in the comments and offer anything he can give, he would be able to just take a moment of silence, enjoy some good music while also sharing his pent-up mental and social energy because he spends too much time just working, worrying, and focusing on his responsibilities that this series just felt like one of his down times (and so was ours). I actually started watching Chan's room lives before I was even a stay or knew of any other members, it was truly a safe space for anyone. Now we don't get to see him just be himself very often (rightfully so), caught up in the idol appearance and his leader responsibilities(although he has shared quite often recently that he is at least taking better care of himself and tries to do what he wants thanks to how much he allowed himself to trust the members)
@SuprychevaN5 ай бұрын
Chan says often that Felix is his comfortable place ♥ As for stays - Chan flirts A LOT
@aviizu5 ай бұрын
i think one place where we get to see a side of chans personality that we don’t see as often is his episode on Young K’s K Survival Story on KZbin! it’s definitely worth checking out, he’s so giggly throughout the video
@lovelickyx5 ай бұрын
The thing about chan is he's one of the most criticized idols, he has a whole anti fanbase that watch his streams so even in things like this he will still have his guard up, it seems he can never win with the public whether he's being nice or real. I think he used to be more real in his older lives but because of people misinterpreting or twisting his words he tries to watch what he says a lot of the time.
@hedgehog_alya5 ай бұрын
Chan is such a safe space for me!! Thank you for the reaction, love your videos
@BumhunterLino5 ай бұрын
You can't be yourself as an idol. That's probably really hard for most people. They have to constantly pretend to be what the fans "want" or what the company believes the fans "want" I think Chan is a people pleaser and molds his personality to others around him. Which isn't always a good thing.
@sinothandogcaza76065 ай бұрын
12:51 if I remember this episode correctly I think he spoke in Korean after that for the entire live
@randomixxii5 ай бұрын
I really miss waking up to chan's room every sunday morning... too bad it got stopped...
@Ryu-2015 ай бұрын
He needs to see Chan's Room which gave us a reason to live and appreciate ourselves.
@stillastrayyayayaya5 ай бұрын
Thank you for the reaction. You were kind of right? I would say Chan is a pretty deep guy, just like Han (hahaha I noticed how you smiled when you saw Han hahaha. You are such a Han bias, I love it!) There are several layers to him, and it's like peeling an onion. This makes him relatable as a person cause no personality is straightforward and simplistic. After all, humans are highly complex beings. With respect to Chan- he has often mentioned in interviews and Chan's room episodes how he was in an almost depression-like phase before he debuted. In an interview, he openly expressed how it was the members who saved him. He went as far as to say that he would prioritise his members over his own fans. He also mentioned how he feels so comfortable around them and that he would die for them. This might give you some context as to why Chan might be a bit difficult to decipher. I would actually argue there are glimpses where we can see his "inner child" shine through in his interactions with the members (so you're right in saying that because he lost out on his childhood, he is more comfortable being childish in front of his members). However, there is also an awareness of what is acceptable and not acceptable on screen, so he can't entirely be himself. As a leader, he prefers to be hiding somewhere in the background rather than being the centre of attention (that's why he doesn't like taking compliments from his own members). Plus, he holds back in front of the camera for obvious reasons to avoid making any mistake that would cause a controversy. This is not to say he is totally performative on screen. There are moments where he forgets that he is being recorded. It's through his goofiness and silliness on screen that we see his real self shine through. Other times, it is in his silence as he tries to blend in with his surroundings. He will camouflage or go silent to avoid upstaging another or talking another's spotlight, but will also not hesitate to call out anyone who steps out of line, be it Stays or the members themselves. He has very high morals and stands by them. He will respect the people who respect him. But he also knows where he stands with people, so he can shape himself accordingly. The same rule applies to Stays. He opens up to Stays as much as he can. (Unfortunately with all this growing fame and success, the con is that they are placed under constant scrutiny. That's why I would say that the early episodes of Chan's Room were more authentic than the latest ones). Anyway, glad you reacted to this. Hope to see more such Chan's room compilations.
@KWolf20135 ай бұрын
Aww so nice to see you checking out some Channie content :) This compilation is definitely picking out some of the more active/silly moments. I loved and really miss Chan's Room because it was so relaxing, like hanging out with a friend at the end of the day. I used to keep it on while I worked and Chan is really calming! It is fun to see Chan on his own, not worrying about anyone else, and agree- he's both rated R and a total nerd. He also introduced me to a lot of great music, so would recommend watching some full episodes!
@wangxian555 ай бұрын
I would recommend you to watch a full episode of Channies room (there are some with subtitles too) to understand him better :) There are also some deep moments and stuff and he slightly opens up. Channies room is for stays a comfort show because we feel like we are face timing with him. At least that is how I feel when I watch Channies room. Thank you for reacting on Channies room :))
@radjaa13155 ай бұрын
Was waiting for this video thanks i hope you’re feeling better 💕💕
@alexnewsoul91525 ай бұрын
I love one that he did with Lee Know ina hotel room ep.171 there should be compilations but it was cozy and funny vlive😄
@ssungart5 ай бұрын
omg thank u for opening up ur personal stories! and i fully understand this video bc i also felt the same way. he always trying to smile, act even more polite (ex bow 90 degrees even if u r already senior in kpop ind.) maybe this is bc Chan once said he was the youngest trainee and others r older hyungs(older male) trainees and they might scold him too harsh (not sure) anyway i appreciate u to open up ur stories to Stay u r so brave 🤩
@sunshineseelovesimmer34895 ай бұрын
"They gonna call you some nasty shit." Is so real lmfaoo Yes Yes Please watch a full Channie's room and put it on youtube! I love your videos and I would really like to see you get a better understanding of him.
@Jisungs.moving.castle5 ай бұрын
So many things you said about him are very accurate. He definitely had to grow up way too fast and finds his goofy childlike spirit with his members. He’s a pretty insecure person. He doesn’t take compliments well at all and is pretty self deprecating. He loves to tease Stay but isn’t afraid to tell us when he doesn’t like something going on in the fandom. Last year some people sent trucks to the company demanding for Chan’s Room to return and he went on bubble (their fan communicating app) and said “you know what I hate the most tho?” When people think they’re trying to help but they’re actually not lol.” He’s very indirect with his scolding but it really gets the point across. Chan is an angel. He always wants to help people and even tries to hold back helping so he can take care of himself but fails a lot in that. He’s very nice and people take advantage of that, fans and haters, really.
@M-yx3nh5 ай бұрын
That example is not valid. That sentence was somewhat cut and taken out of context. What he hated was the fact that he wanted to solve the Chan'sroom thing, but that it was not in his or in 'Stay''s power to do anything about it. He hated the helplessness he felt at not being able to do something about it, putting alongside the example of his parents trying to help him with math and hating the fact that he couldn't understand what they explained to him 'no matter how much they tried to help him' . Then those trucks were sent by Chinese stans, not 'Stay' and this is usually noticeable because sometimes they write wrong in Korean. Then he wasn't angry at us. But it was just something ignorant of them to do that, because Chan felt sad for Stay.
@gabrielaoliva52205 ай бұрын
Thanks for your reaction to chansroom! I'm always so happy to hear you opinions, I hope you are feeling better now! You are the best!💕
@bokkieyongie5 ай бұрын
I could write a 20 page essay on chan hahaha but I'll say some things i think you might wanna know? I think bc chan has been training since he's like 13 he hasnt lived his childhood properly and it shows a lot. I dont know any specific video you could watch but chan is very childish a lot of the time. He likes cuddling up and using a baby voice. But when the time comes for him to take responsibility he never hesitated and its like a switch being flipped. His relationship with stays is a whole can of worms. A lot of what you said was true. Although he sets boundaries with fans more often than other idols would (i.e. asking us not to start fanwars to defend him, telling us that we shouldnt stick our nose into their friendship teasing when we thought it got too far, asking us to back off when chans room got canceled and we started rioting and hating on JYPE for censoring him for smth not his fault) BUT despite these bounderies he does act like he and stays are truly as close as friends are which is dangerous. What i mean by that is that he shares a lot of personal stuff and puts a lot of trust in us that backfires a lot. He sees a lot of the posts we make and adresses them often which kind of erases the wall between us and makes a lot of stays act like they know him/own him. He's constantly harassed to 'fix' stuff within the fandom or the group like he's some sort of manager or ceo. They blame him for mishaps or unfairness and doesnt really get treated like an equal member (in my eyes) but more like the dad/leader. And it doesnt help that he's constantly flirting and reinforcing this relationship like we're his equal (he played pokemon go with stays before a concert). In the past when the fandom was small this wasnt a big deal but i remember the last 10 chans rooms after every single episode we had to fight either other fandoms bc they were calling him disgusting for sharing so much or just taking things out of context and making them inappropriate, or fight within the fandom when ppl start demanding he act a certain way. Although I agree with you he's very aware of how he's perceived. His laughs after saying anything serious does indicate that, and he does constantly overexplain himself bc he gets hated on for literally everyhing (ppl consistently bring up when he cried during a concert). But at the same time he's so aware he does continue flirting and being vulnerable and sharing his intimate thoughts. Its this weird dichotomy of him taking everything lightly but spilling his guts whenever he can. I cant think of a video that sums this up, but maybe a compilation of a specific chans room would do better? Since it would be too long and it would focus on the episode itself? Or maybe a compilation of chan best/vulnerable moments? I'll try to search today and post one if i find it
@tiffanydurden5 ай бұрын
ugh i wish this video wasn't so fast. what's so interesting is i feel like he has the opposite of a wall to him, i actually think he was a little too open sometimes to the point where i was like...should i be hearing this? and as much as i miss him soooo much, i think not having the hard promise of a weekly chan's room is so much better for his mental health. he has....a lot of self esteem issues and he was very open about it. i think the wall you feel is truly just being media trained from age 12 haha. he's soooo open and wants to be so open, especially when it comes to mental health and such. but also, he's a huge dork that makes you facepalm a lot and he's so so silly goofy. he's my ult of all ults, and i feel like it's because what you see is 10000% what you get with him. (also jsyk, he never cursed because of company rules, but he's an absolute potty mouth and felix called him the c word ON chan's room lmaoooo)
@anncanovill81365 ай бұрын
Thank you for your reactions. I agree this is based on too short clips. I think you would like the interviews and talks that each member is giving in the new "Stray Kids Chk chk boom MV film making". I know that I would like to see your input in a reaction. Stray Kids are so genuine, well spoken and giving their thoughts on the album as well their history together and their friendship.
@apurvaanand51965 ай бұрын
Honestly I don’t think one Chans room ep is enough, bc depending on how stays have been acting, his tiring schedule, and the time of day he is has different side to him. As the other members say, everytime he’s disappointed or angry, he feel like he needs to walk on eggshells to not hurt anyone’s feelings bc he truly loves them all. His friends have also said he is constantly thinking of stay and the members he never stops. Chans room was a comfort to all people, and I think longer clips would help maybe seeing that side of him. He’s really silly and mostly doesn’t take himself seriously at all.
@catwitha_phone5 ай бұрын
i feel like if you want a more childish version of chan, there are plenty more videos of him goofing around with the members or with stay. there are also a lot of videos of him taking care of the others and being the “dad” of the group (and also videos of lee know being the “mom”)
@danya.60725 ай бұрын
Not a bad assessment about Channie from those short clips! Yes, he's goofy & definitely endearingly nerdy. Also, he laughs & giggles A LOT because of his painful shyness. I'm not sure if you caught it in a couple of instances, that he didn't like being told what to do. For example: a Stay told him to not speak Korean, and right away he set that boundary by stating that if Stay doesn't like it, they dont have to watch it. You definitely need to watch more episodes of Chan's Room, and not just short snippets of it. The episodes were mostly slower pace than those clips. Channie is definitely likes to be playful, to roleplay, and to be flirtatious with Stays. He also enjoys teasing the hell out of Stays, and getting the rise out of them. However, he does know limits as he'd stop and apologize if he realized he'd gone too far. I think Channie tries his best to share some part of himself with Stays. Afterall, i believe he genuinely draws his motivation & confidence from Stays. He needs that attention and approval from Stays, which keeps him going to do what he does. In return, he tries his best to spend time w Stays like a virtual entity of his significant other. Through Bubble, he even sometimes had movie dates, and pretend 'couple-quarrel'. I didnt particularly like that, as it was difficult to understand what or to whom he was saying certain statements to (due to the nature of Bubble commumications).
@alecognetta64785 ай бұрын
I love watching your reaction videos, you bring such a insightful perspective to the table and I think its really cool :)
@maxpbeaumont5 ай бұрын
thank you!
@smhoneyct5 ай бұрын
you hit the nail on the head with him wanting to express his youth and it maybe being stripped of him from a young age, if you look at the lyrics of social path, it's exactly about that. it's about chan's experience.
@_M.O.N.A_5 ай бұрын
And last thing to say😂clearly you don't dig chan you just don't vibe with him from the get go and it shows 😂 but he's the best person you will ever come across trust me
@wiebkekauffmann47635 ай бұрын
most people don't know him, they just created an image of him and he is trying his best to fit in that image